A look into the Power and Skills of the Maverick Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn I don't own the movie footage in this, Star Wars is owned by Lucasfilm, Fox, and Disney.
His fighting style was not well optimized for long duels due to the strength and power he incorporated into each blow. He was accustomed to finishing duels quickly. Maul had wisely deduced this on Tatooine and sought to separate and tire out Qui-Gon in order to defeat him. Until Qui-Gon is isolated, you’ll notice that Maul is on the defensive the entire time.
@@nitrobw1 maul only lost to obi wan because of hi arrogance after all he just beat one of the best jedi of his time what could a padawan do? Before this maul carefully planned his assault and used his full focus on this duel after all if you learn about maul and his back story he was absolutely ravenous for jedi blood and while he killed a few jedi before this, this was his first real chance to reveal himself to the jedi and face a true jedi master
@@nitrobw1 That’s false Obi Wan was already a 25 year old master of Ataru Maul was 22 and should have easily defeated him on Naboo the only reason Obi Wan lasted long before getting disarmed was because he was rage amped over Qui Gon’s death which boosted him…. In a fair fight Maul would eat Kenobi’s lunch 10/10
Qui-gon Jinn was not only powerful; but he was the most righteous Jedi of his era. He was a true disciple of the Force. He followed the will of the Force above all else. All of the other Jedi (yes, even Yoda) used the Force to serve the will of the Republic (and all its corrupt politicians). Qui-gon is hands down my favorite Jedi.
Obi-Wan: Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil! Anakin: From my point of view, the Jedi are evil! Obi-Wan: Why would you say that? Anakin: Of all people, your own Master disobeyed the Jedi Council, causing his rejection to be a member. Qui-Gon saw the allegiance of the Council to the Republic, placing the favor of the people over the face of the Force itself. They define good as the common good rather than the will of the Force, using its power for the benefit of their supposed democracy which is in the eye of the beholder. Qui-Gon saw the way of the Force, he let its will guide him, and not the other way around. The Force is not balanced, and I was created to do that. Open your eyes, Obi-Wan! It's time for you to see the truth behind the lies, as your old master did. Together, we can overthrow the Chancellor, and bring peace and justice to the galaxy. Obi-Wan: Anakin, perhaps you are right. While I don't agree with the Chancellor on everything, I do believe that the Jedi have twisted the Force to their own will. The Old Republic never used the Force in such a way.
Really!?I thought this is a versus series.Well then, how about a battle of (obi wan kenobi vs kyle katarn), this is my favouritecharacters in star war.EvanNova95 if you do this battle this is so fun.
Honestly Qui Gon is my favorite Jedi. I see him as a really great Jedi and I would definitely would want to be taught by him if I was a Jedi Apprentice.
I like Kit Fisto because we see him throughout the prequel trilogy his lightsaber fighting style is very unpredictable and dangerous and he can breathe underwater
DDS Scholl Kit Fisto is definitely a talented Jedi as well, you ain’t wrong there. His technique is definitely something. Any enemy really needs to be careful. I do like his lightsaber as well.
Thats becauss he's more like how they should be and even like the original old progenitors of the Jedi and Sith the "Jedi" but spoken differently than the Jedi of today more like j-dye
LOL I died at, "No, especially when the general goes into his quad-bladed 'let's plug all 7 forms into a random number generator' sequences." You wanna start a rave? General Grievous vs. Pong Krell...
He defined what it meant to be a jedi as my first move was phantom menace. I loved and looked up to him dearly. His character showed me honor at an early age. Definitely a cool guy
The one problem I have with your assessment is that at his physical prime. Jinn was second only to Yoda in mastery of Ataru, saying he's less skilled than other master's is incorrect. He's more skilled because he surpassed the shortcomings of his chosen mastery through growth. Unlike Yoda that could just Force power through his age weakness.
In Revenge of the Sith, Ob-Wan was clearly in his physical prime. Yet Yoda, despite being *hundreds* of years older, still insisted that he -- not Obi-Wan -- was the only one "strong" enough to battle Darth Sidious -- arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the history of the galaxy. And Obi-Wan didn't argue, because he knew Yoda was right. So it would seem the definition of the term "prime" is questionable insofar as it applies to Jedi masters.
@@SingleTax A Jedi gains strength in the Force through study, meditation and practice. The point when Humans are at their physical prime lies fairly early in our life cycle when medical care has extended life span into the numbers of our time. In Star Wars their medicine extends that even further. Anyone that is 70+ years old has far more study and practice behind them than they did at their physical peak of 30ish. They may tire quicker and not meet the same level of physical strength, but they can be far more powerful in the Force. Now Yoda lived to 900 years old. There was no Light Side user as powerful as Yoda at that level. Obi-Wan could have withstood anything Darth Sidious tried with a Lightsaber, but the second he put it away and showed his true power. Kenobi would have been wrecked. Even if he got his lightsaber in the lightnings path. The sheer power would have slammed him against the wall and destroyed him. He had no idea how to accept the darkness and redirect it back the way Windu, or Yoda did. Even Yoda got tossed because he didn't have a saber to channel the energy.
Not entirely. Yoda is THE master of Ataru, and holds practical mastery of Soresu and Shien, plus an academic master of all other Jedi style. Qui-gon is an innovator who created his own-style, which in practice is extremely practical and shares one weakness with Niman: capable of anything with few consistent advantages. Jinn is moderately good at blaster-deflecting, moderately good at crowd-fighting, and is otherwise grounded and strength-oriented, in practice similar to a Niman master who favours Shii-Cho, Shien and Djem So. His foundations in Ataru and wide technical repertoire are impressive, plus in practical application he is leagues ahead of other traditional Ataru purists like Ven Zallow or Siri Tachi. On the other hand, he has no back-ups and attempts to leverage his advantages to overshadow his short-comings, instead of adapting his own style to be less taxing, or learning pure Makashi or Soresu as fall-backs to his own style. Plus, Qui-Gon lacks the wider tactical awareness of Master-Kenobi, Plo Kon or Shaak Ti, nor does he exercise combative Force-powers in their league either. Hence why I agree with Evannova95's assessment of Jinn as mid/high council Master, but overshadowed by the Tier 2 and Tier 1 leagues
One uncommon theory is he actually foresaw it and determined it to be the will of the force when he was meditating during the laser walls cutting between them.
I absolutely love qui gonna. He is my absolutely my favorite. I wish he had more time in films especially since Liam neeson loved the role and loves star wars so much. A youth obi wan film with Neeson coming back would be amazing. #bringquigonback
Liam Neeson did a great job setting this great character. one of my favorite characters in star wars , and knowing who was the teacher of obi-wan(my favorite character) in star wars. it was a shame indeed Qui-Gon was only in Episode 1. but he did a great job in this episode 1.
@@mikeor- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH That's your excuse ? Tell me a better joke. Yeah, a bunch of videos with little views, really idiotic arguments that boil down to "ItS gUuD cUz I LiKeD It, StAhP TaEk It SrSsLy" and plain unashamed Disney drone behaviour. Meanwhile, the videos of people criticizing these movies have DOUBLE the amount of views, comments, likes and are far better argued and researched. So no, you' re still not providing good excuses. No one but dumb drones like Disney Star Wars as a whole.
I see Qui-Gon Jinn’s move set being most akin to Ki-Adi Mundi’s style. With that being said, since Ki-Adi was the only Jedi left standing against Grievous on Hypori (this is pre-Force crushed leading to hacking cough Grievous), and with Qui-Gon’s live in the moment philosophy, then I see Qui-Gon being able to stand against Grievous for a short amount of time. I do not see Qui-Gon lacking in defence, it’s just that the only times we see him actively defending is when he has already spent much of his energy. On Naboo he had kept up a solid offence pushing (or being drawn by) Darth Maul throughout much of the Battle of Naboo (at least 10 minutes movie time and an unknown length of time within the events themselves) and on Tatooine he had appeared to have sprinted from Mos Espa to the Outskirts where the Royal starship waited, a feat that young Anakin Skywalker struggled to maintain as he began to tire. Add to that the quick reflexes he employed as Maul snuck up on them and how tired Jinn must have been already, he kept up a decent defence against the much younger Sith. The question as to whether Qui-Gon could actually beat Grievous should come down to the context leading up to the fight. Qui-Gon is no fool and would likely have at least studied his opponent before engaging him, likely hearing a personal account of the General’s fighting capabilities from his friend Ki-Adi Mundi. With that knowledge and coming into the fight fresh, he would actually keep up a defensive screen by way of Form III. Soresu is not his preferred style but it is a style he knows as all Jedi receive basic training in almost all lightsaber Forms. And if he employs elements of his former Master’s style, then he could slip in the precise moves of Form II to strike at Grievous’ limbs. Another defensive style that Jinn has demonstrated in TPM is Shien, shown by his ability to precisely redirect blaster bolts back at shooters. Given that Shien is geared to dealing with multiple attackers, the question is whether it is as capable of defending against Grievous’ four lightsabers as Kenobi’s use of Soresu was. Again I must refer to Ki-Adi Mundi, since in the comic series Outlander I believe it is implied that had Qui-Gon Jinn still been alive, he would have been the one sent to find Sharad Hett on Tatooine not Ki-Adi Mundi. And if (a decade older) Mundi can stand against General Grievous then surely Qui-Gon Jinn as he appears in TPM can, right? Maybe. But the difference between Jinn and Mundi is their preference for supplementing Ataru with Shien and Soresu respectively. Mundi is able to defend against the rapid strikes of Grievous thanks to his use Soresu close quarter defence. So, after all that my conclusion is the same as the video’s but it would not be an easy victory for General Grievous.
I'm surprised you went with such a well-covered character. This segment is a great way to spotlight characters that don't show up often (or would be hard to analyze in sufficient detail) in the versus series. I would recommend Lord Hoth, Anakin Solo, Siri Tachi, Zayne Carrick, Darth Marr, Azelyn Rae, Antares Draco and Bastila Shan for a few examples!
Little known fact: to his dying day, Kenobi wore a concealed mic and earpiece. They spoke often. Now they are together in the great Spirit-Internet in the sky. RIP. #OTP
Thanks for doing this video.I feel that because he is often compared to the very best and loses in his versus matches,people have started to underestimate him.Therefore I thank you for making an effort and showing that he was very capable,just not enough to beat the very best.
I still remember watching Phantom Menace in theaters and how much of a shock Qui-Gon's death was. Seeing as it was the first movie in a new prequel trilogy, you just kind of had an idea he was going to be a major protagonist for atleast more than half a film. But In hindsight it had be that way. They needed to introduce the character makes us feel a genuine connection to him, them "move him to the side" in order to bring in the dynamic of Obi-Wan and Anakin so the story could go where it needed to in order to have it all make sense and a cohesive story up to A New Hope. Qui-Gon was awesome though especially the way he never feared questioning things or seeking out what he felt to be the right path he needed to go down, despite what other council members may have thought. Bit to much of an "Out There Hippy" as far as council thought lol!!
Qui-Gon is my favorite Jedi of all time, hands down. Perfect grey. For instance, Qui-Gon's goading of Xanatos in battle is a dark side tendency that would later be utilized by Sideous and Vader.
Logan Smith If Abeloth encountered a being on the level of jar jar binks, she would tremble in fear and pray to the whills for help who would tell her thier power is not enough to compete with jar jar, and jar jar would use his unlimited power to destroy the multiverse.
Guess it depends on whether he thinks the roughly 2 decades of power growth or the bota was more beneficial to Vader's power ( personally, I'd side with the former ).
Why doesn't anyone mention the fact that when Qui-Gon Jinn engaged Darth Maul the first time he had already ran all the way from town. It's been years since I read the navel but I believe that is where I first considered it. His endurance was still quite impressive.
Evan! It's great to see you making another video man, I always enjoy them. I think you should just go on with the "How Powerful was..." or "The Story of..." vids. I think those are some of your best stuff - tho i do love the Vs. videos too, of course. Great stuff though.
He would have been an entire decade older (he was sixty in the Phantom Menace). So, he either would focus more on defense to combat his further declining stamina, or he would start to incorporate a bit more planning and preparation into his style. I say that because he would likely have problems relating to understanding that he needs to do so. Especially as his age creeps on up.
An excellent video on one of my favorite Jedi! 1. Wolf Sazen 2. Qui-gon Jinn 3. Kit Fisto 4. Quinlan Vos 5. Aryn Leneer 6. Bariss Offee 7. Celeste Mourne 8. Sylvar 9.Anakin Skywalker 10. Jaden Korr
Not bad EvanNova95 not bad at all. :) It's a sad shame Qui Gon wasn't given more screen time, but hopefully Liam could come back for a spinoff because let's face it, he's got a peticular set of skills that make him a nightmare for Dark Jedi. This video is pure gold. :) For the next episode in this series could you consider the following people:1 Mace Windu2 Count Dooku3 Yoda4 Kyle Katarn 5 Darth Krayt6 Darth BaneAgain can't tell you how much I enjoyed this video.
Great analysis of Qui-Gon Jinn. I always wondered exactly how powerful he was and I've heard stories about how good of a fighter he was. it seems to be grossly under stated in TPM. thank you for your in-depth analysis. great insight
Well it’s not that he is underrated. It is that he faced a one of the very best unprepared and while he did well and almost made it , he still got beaten .
You should do more like this but with other Jedi or Sith I think it would be awesome to get a lot of information on all the Force users, keep up the vids
Really was looking forward to another one of these. I was afraid that you had decided that a single character analysis wasn't for you after your Marka Rhagnos video.
Qui-Gon's greatness is not merely measured by his combat prowess, or force power...but also his NON-combat skills; his wisdom, his perceptions, his deductive powers and his academic success. Jinn was the quintessential Jack of All Trades, but he was also GREAT at all trades...great not exactly meaning exceptional. He took a holistic approach to his time as a Jedi. Consider this; his death warranted the attendance of Mace Windu AND Yoda. Among that, his kindness and compassion were surpassed by none. Put Yoda, or Mace in the same position as him on Tatooine, and they would have only rescued Anakin. Jinn, even though he was shut down immediately (and he was wise enough not to pursue) DID try to get Shmi as well.
Neat video, Evan! I really enjoy these "how powerful was" style breakdowns. Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on Qui-Gon vs. Old Ben? Jensaraai did a video about that match up a couple years back, if I'm not mistaken, and gave the bout to Qui-Gon. But I've always felt that Old Ben was a far more capable combatant.
I was just catching up on your previous video, which was two months ago. Nice to see that other members besides Antoine and Jensaari are still making videos. I mentioned this to Antoine already, but I had noticed that there is a discrepancy between the latest Council Forcecast episode and the one before it. I was wondering when the next episode was going to appear to fix this? There has also been a lot of Star Wars news recently within the past few months that I would really love to get all of yours inputs and comments.
I honestly think that Qui-Gon Jinn is one of the most underrated jedi of all time. I would definitely put him right behind Mace Windu. I'd also easily take him over Anakin or Obi Wan in a fight, but then again, I would also argue Darth Maul as being more powerful than any of the opponents in the first 3 films, except Sidious (perhaps). From what we saw on screen anyway, that's the way I have to view it. Also, I feel like both the sith and the jedi do not use the force enough in the movies. I actually think it should be a point for Darth Vader, because he's limited by his machinery which should make it even more impressive that he can, but instead, we really see a lot more lightsaber twirling than force using. Yoda really seemed to be the only one in the movies to use the force correctly in multiple ways, throwing objects, catching lightning, and augmenting his actual speed to make up for his tiny size. Everyone else just seems like they would get slaughtered by a good force user, even though they are very skilled at using lightsabers. I would be cool with it for a guy like Windu, but the vast majority of jedi should be using the force during combat more regularly. It just looks like they don't even train to be using or fighting opponents with the force, which is weird because that is the entire point of being a jedi.
theres an argument that qui-gon pushed maul to that location not out of cockiness but rather because he was so one with the force he understood exactly what needed to happen for the chosen one prophecy (which he almost solely recognized)
I highly doubt he was that clairvoyant otherwise traya would be right about the force being an ass. Besides its seems way more likely maul intentionally let the two jedi their not the other way around.
Thank you for this I like this new concept and thank for showing Jinn in a new light in most verse series or in any other media he always seem like he gets the short end of the stick. I do understand he's flaws and strength but he get pitted against someone it seem so one sided pretty much similar what you just did with Grievous we all know that Kenobi was the only one of that era to contend with. Fit the next video I like to see Kenobi cause he is my favorite but I wouldn't mind seeing someone completely new maybe someone we never heard of like one of the very old unknown Darth's if you can I guess it depends on how much information is out there.
Awesome video--I tend to rank Qui-Gon closer to Gallia, or Kolar and Tiin at best, but I see your logic and you make some really great points. I do give him credit for what he did with Form IV, though. Tholme, Anakin, Mace, even Obi-Wan all show techniques that seem almost inspired by Jinn's interpretation. What are your thoughts on the concept of a longer, Jedi Academy-style game, taking place from maybe 49 to 19 BBY? I'd love for that to be a thing, especially with that beautiful combat engine...you think we'll ever see it?
Love his chaotic nature and I feel that Lucas did it right the way he presented the character of course of him not being on the council and why. He was every bit the warrior. Might go watch Episode 1 again later on. I remember when Episode 3 was playing in Spokane there was no store that had Episode one, available had to get it from Ebay.
I think the ultimate all hands down fight seeing Obi Wan defeat General Grievous was in a way also a very big nod to Qui Gonn for the training that defeated not only Grievous but also Vader, as much his victory. I remember the emotion when Obi Wan was so shocked at Anakin and his leaving of the order as much great sorrow as I'd ever seen in any Star Wars film.
Evan whats your opinion of the kotor 2 character , KREIA ? I mean whats your point of view of her filosofy , i think that would be a very interesting video or discussion with the council , i beg you to at least see the video "the psilosophy of kreia an analisis to starwars" .
Please Make one of these with expanded universe Luke Skywalker. His feats , His character, his abilities etc....etc Nice video your work is most appreciated.
Hey EvanNova95, u should do a Star Wars: How Powerful Was Revan? since many sources claim the Prodigal Knight was unique amongst both the Jedi and the Sith due to his mastery of both light and dark side of the Force, and while his lightsaber combat was described as being a generalist rather than specialist he was able outfight the Echani warriors who could anticipate their opponent's movements. And unlike most Jedi and Sith, he had timing knowing which Form to use and once an enemy's weakness was exposed, he would strike.
Excellent video as always! I would personally like to recommend Anya Kuro, A'Sharad Hett, Jarec Keadan, Qu Ran, and Valenthyne Farfalla. Keep up the fantastic work!
The narrator really has a bromance going on with Qui Gon in his head! 😆 Can't really blame him, though! Qui Gon's life in the sequels was far too short! I really wish we could have seen more of him and got more information on his past... (I've never actually read any of the books or watched any of the animated series, but these videos are fascinating)! I'm a history buff, and I don't care all that much that this is fictional! 😄 The Star Wars universe/fandom is like no other!
You brought up Kyle Katarn... I would love to see him realised in something modern. I mean he was a beast.... like a younger Qui Gonn would can use blasters / explosives in conjunction with indiscriminate force powers like lightning push pull speed mind control, even healing..... aswell as being a powerful lightsaber duelist.... I dunno why there aren't more videos on him as a character.
William Henning I agree, Zannah wouldn't even draw her blade, she would just attack him mentally and cripple him that way. I don't think many Verses series creators really understand how her sorcery works. They always say "this person is a Jedi, so they have gotten past their fears, so Zannahs spells of madness would have no effect of them" and I find that so annoying. Bane was fully aware that Zannah would use her madness spell against him, and he had heavily researched how to deal with it, and he had gotten past all of his fears, channelling them into his dark side power. And despite this, when Zannah used to against him in their final duel, she bought him SCREAMING to his knees. And when she using to against Set Harth, she put him in a COMA. This isn't something anyone can just shrug off. Her base line powers are also very underrated. He force push smashed Bane into a wall so hard it cracked his back, despite the fact that Bane has welled up his power, and reacted in time to channel it into a force wall. And her own force wall was incredible. Despite the fact bane didn't have his lightsaber, in their second to last duel, he only used evasion and lightning against Zannah, stating himself that telekinetic attacks would be useless because she could throw up force walls, and even outright stated that the ability to throw up a force defence was the first thing he had taught her. With a lightsaber, when she was about apprentice level in terms of training (Rule of Two), she was able to stone wall the assaults of a low level knight and a high level knight at the same time. And by her prime (Dynasty of Evil) she held up a strong defence against a raging Bane trying to kill her for almost the entirety of the duel, incredible considering how masterful and overwhelming a swordsman Bane was. And for those who say she has no offence, literally the first thing she did when she got her lightsaber was practice a counter-attack sequence with Bane, and she was EASILY able to overwhelm Set Harth (about mid Jedi knight level) with pure offence in their brief duel. Bane considered her his equal, and Bane is very overconfident in his own abilities, having nearly gotten himself killed as a result throughout the trilogy multiple times by getting in over his head with a lack of judgement regarding his own power level. Bane considers himself almighty, but admits that Zannah is his equal. Nuff said.
she's powerful but to focused. Like whiles she a good three tires higher than him Ku,Kruck has dam fine chance of beating her due to his noted resistance to fear effects. Yet she would dominate the likes Anakin and Ventress and soundly be beaten by Nomi Sunrider. she's easily explained as being the sort of combatant who will either destroy her foes in seconds or she will be slowly warn down
+EvanNova95 Excellent video and keep up the good work. Any chance you or the other council members do one of these matchups? Kento Marek or Roan Shryne vs. Dass Jennir Darth Malak vs. Ulic Qel-Droma Zayne Carrick vs. Ferus Olin Xanatos vs. Kueller Cilghal vs. Barris Offee(Legends) Dooku vs. Darth Wryylok III Even Piell(Legends) vs. Rahm Kota Mara Jade vs. Shaak Ti Mara Jade vs. Depa Billaba(Legends) Darth Krayt vs. Exar Kun Bardan Jusik vs. Zekk Aurra Sing(Legends) vs. Asaj Ventress(TCW+DD) Darth Malgus vs. Plo Koon Darth Nihl vs. Darth Maul(Legends) Saba Sebatyne vs. Oppo Rancisis Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Rahm Kota Quinlan Vos vs. Kyp Durron Kyp Durron vs. Qui-Gon Jinn Quinlan Vos vs. Cade Skywalker Darth Malgus vs. Ulic Qel-Droma
That's either Assassin's Creed II or Brotherhood music in the background, I'm sure of it. Specifically the song with the soft bells in the second to last section.
this is a good question to ask and it's also great for a versus viciate vs. Palpatine that would be a good versus the same could be said for Bane versus viciate
He was actually offered Grand Master and refused. He literally felt his time was near. He discovered Immortality and taught it to Yoda. He knew he was going to die; knowing he fulfilled the Jedi prophecy. His main power was Life Force. He gained a lot of power but like most humans, die a short age span. He can match and defeat Dooku alone; let that sink in. Jin can lift the six stones too. He was very intuned with the force. Giving the illusion as if he was going on instinct. If it wasn't for Jin, if you actually pay attention, The prophecy would have never been fulfilled. He's more powerful than most give credit. He literally was offered Grand Master and refused; let that sink in.
Qui-Gon vs Grevious I don't necessarily believe Qui-Gon would loose. Grevious is obviously known to flee battles. He'd probably take advantage of that since Qui-Gon doesn't moves as fast. Also, the clones showing up on Utapou would tempt Grevious to do just that as he often does. That massive force push Kenobi did...well since it seems Qui-Gon is better with the force than saber combat and being an out the box thinker as you describe he would probably force push him, just like Kenobi, but into the open space below where he would be stunned, dropping his lightsabers, and surrounded by the clone army where they blast him then and there. After all, that's why the clones were there in the first place. Qui-Gon may not win, but he wouldn't lose either. It's not like saber duels always have to end the same way. Armies are in fact a resource to use.
