They've still left Anakin's parentage undefined. Charles Soule, the writer of Darth Vader #25, has said that this was a vision filtered through Vader's psyche seeming to provide answers but isn't reality. The idea is that Anakin believes/d that Palpatine created him to show how much he's bought into his master's worldview and machinations. I have a feeling they are trying to leave the truth of that alone in deference to George Lucas.
The Jedi do not take children against their will. They ask permission from their guardian, and they offer the child a choice, but the children get to choose. I don’t get why people keep calling the Jedi child snatchers, or why new Lucasfilm seem to want to give anyone that impression. The Jedi Academy is like a boarding school, you live there while you study. I’m sure that not every student/padawan graduates to a Jedi Knight, some might flunk it, or just find that it’s not for them.
@@rogersjgregory they use their mind powers to make the parents agree to give up their kid. No sane parent would give their beloved toddler to strangers in a cult.
@@majorlazor5058 that sounds more like your own personal theory. If this did happen, then point to evidence. What book, tv show or movie did this happen in, and who did it?
@@rogersjgregory the whole idea of people completely giving up their children to the Jedi at a very young age is just stupid. I have never liked it. If they made it so the families still were allowed contact with the children it would make more sense. Just think about it.. what kind of decision making ability does a 3 or 4 year old have for deciding the remaining course of their life? Even if the parents “volunteer” to give up their kids, the child doesn’t have consent. In most of the fiction I’ve seen with children joining the Jedi, it was because force users were being targeted by the dark side… there is a reason for this.
A member of the Lucasfilm story group confirmed that Palpatine did not create Anakin, it was just in the comic a visual metaphor for Anakin being destined to be under Palpatine's thrall.
My suspicion is that it was Plagueis or even Plagueis’s master who creates Anakin with the Force pulled from Aniseya’s knowledge of it before she died.
Came here to say the same. The writer of the comic has publicly stated that the intention of that panel was not to imply that Palpatine made Anakin, just that he has long been a negative influence on him.
Michael is incorrect when he talks about how Anakin was created at the 25:00. The comic panel he's talking about is a Dark Side vision of Anakin's worst fear, that Palpatine had something to do with his creation. The author of the Darth Vader comic, Charles Soule, and LFL story group member Matt Martin confirmed this several years ago. Anakin was created by the Will of the Force in response to Palpatine and Plagueis meddling with the midiclorians and the Force, but they had no direct involvement in Anakn's creation
I enjoyed it- found it captivating if I'm honest. Feels these days if u say u liked star wars u get attacked and labeled a weirdo, but whatevs, having fun with it. Only negative some of the actingthis episode was a little weak.
Pulling put lightsaber was like cops in 80s during DARE program being peace officers to neighborhoods by being nice kids asking if they safe and giving candy & trading cards.
Jesus christ! Thank You! Its refreshing to see a grown up take on what we saw. Ive seen so many dumb takes on it, seems like a lot of people are done with SW and need to move on. I can’t wait to find out how it all plays out, and i hope it sticks the landing. I’m still intrigued and excited.
Great review guys! FYI though on the Osha and Mae fight during Mother Aniseya's lesson - You can see that Osha is playing with the fruit and Mae keeps hitting her to tell her to focus but Osha repeatedly doesn't listen and keeps messing with the fruit so the fight certainly does not happen out of nowhere.
My thing is...how are the little girls twins when they clearly don't look alike. But....they grow up to look identical? Gene's don't work that way. LMAO 😂😂😂
You guys pretty much sum it up. The progress on the lore is intriguing but the execution is flat. Relative to other series I find it very dull, but I might keep watching mainly because there ain't anything else on Tuesday nights and I want to keep up with review videos by TGB and my other favorite content creators.
Yes I agree this was a flashback from Osha's point of view, and hopefully we will see another flashback from Mae or Sol's point of view later, with the rest of the story, because there is definitely more to the story. In a galaxy this big, it makes sense that there would be a sect of force witches practicing the force differently and calling it by a different name. The question is, were the witches in fact practicing the dark side? Maybe that's why jedi were on Brandok, to investigate.
Here I was puffing my chest out for my 'brilliant' Mae/Osha theory and, when I posted it, I hadn't gotten to the part where Vogel nails all the points I thought I was being all ingenius about = P
I'm with Michael, SUPER underwhelmed by this episode and I blame the buzz. This episode was not mind-blowing nor did it completely ruin or shake up Star Wars lore or canon. It was just okay. And I hate petulant, bratty kids so the twins really got on my nerves this episode. When the mother pushed them over I was like THANK GOD. I don't blame the kids acting at all, the direction and writing for them was just not good. Jodie was easily the best part of this episode. Agree with the hokey chant too, and I was so embarrassed when it because part of the score.
Pretty much @@cloverravenand it is meant to work on multiple symbolic levels: 1. A saber represents the Jedi's power, he's giving it up in front the Coven 2. The child is interested in us Jedi, here's a symbol of what we are 3. This is how much we want to establish trust in our good intents that even a child can hold onto what you fear we will use against you
@@TobyLerone76 Never meant it as the safest and smartest thing to do, I meant it literally as the narrative symbolism of what people associate with the Jedi. Could accidentally igniting it go horribly wrong? Yup. There in lies the "trust" and the willingness to show that (ignore the reality of handing a child a plasma torch for a moment and go with "he force blocked the on switch" 😅)
@@Mertaranta I don’t know, doesn’t seem very SW. i think they showed enough so we havent seen the whole picture anyway. Apparently theres another episode with CAM so i imagine we’ll see another perspective, not necessarily a different one.
I’m sooooo ready for THIS deep dive! Thanks in advance, these Star Wars fandom streets are getting wild again and I love that Geek Buddies is always a safe space for discourse and discussion
These Geek Buddies Jedi are not who you think they are. Rocha Skywalker will murder a bunch of younglings then become Darth Rocha exterminating Geeks throughout the galaxy. Obi-wan Vogel will go into exile and ShannonD2 will bounce around several masters before he winds up with Bale Kalinowski. 😝
Vulcanerd (LOVE the name 🤓🖖) the hate this series is getting is INSANE! Is is Andor, Ahsoka or Mado level good? No. It is better than Obi Wan or Boba Fett. Yes. I am enjoying the show because it is its own show. It’s a mystery. It reminds me of Columbo. Every episode would begin SHOWING the audience the murder plot. Then it was up to Columbo to figure out WHY the murder happened. We DEFINITELY do not know what fully happened. I am sure episode 5 (which is supposed to be THE crazy episode) will show it from Mae and the Jedi’s “certain point of view”. Overall, I give the series (so far) a 7.5 out of 10.
@@Mike19737 Yeah, I’m liking it too. Is is the best thing since Empire? No. But, I do like it. In fact, I’m an avowed ST hater, but I’ve really enjoyed the tv series. I was behind years and recently started catching up. I haven’t seen Ahsoka yet (in the middle of Rebels now), but I pretty much like all the other Disney era tv shows, even Boba and Obi-wan. And thanks! I love me my Trek (best sci-fi series. Bring it on all you SW nerds! 🖖😝).
I don't know how much I like the idea of Force mind controlling Mae, but I wonder if that may have played a part. We see in Episode 1 where young Mae's eyes turn black when Osha chases her down after the prison ship cash.
On the no horns thing. In the lore zabrak are already a near human species, when they have kids they can look either human or zabrak as far as im aware
Thanks for a great discussion guys. Helped solidify something for me - this episode had the opposite effect it was supposed to, at least on me. I think the flashback (and the more to come - and are they really going to do 3 episodes out of 8 as Rashomon? That feels like a choice) are supposed to show us how the girls ended up the way they are - but this episode made me care _LESS_ about all of it. The girls, their background, the Jedi involved, the story that got us to this point - I was slightly intrigued after the first two episodes. Now I'm feeling that I'm going to have to force (no pun intended) myself to tune in again. I will, because I'm hoping the clunkiness of this episode is a one off, but for me personally 'Destiny' was super off-putting.
It’s the femalecentrism that’s Alienating fanboys. People hated the willow series and are afraid sw is going that direction. Men are traitorous. Possessed and need strong female characters to lead them.
Idk, the more we get deeper into the Jedi mythos is making me really dislike Jedi’s in general. Is that Disney’s and stars wars goal? Why should I root for a Jedi ever again? They are a awful cult.
Another great thoughtful review Buddies ! I haven’t read any of HR Phase 2 yet but know there’s a comic focusing on Porter Engle (The Blade of Badotta). Please no replies spelling out the details as I’m gonna get to it, thx. But in the TCW S6 arc The Disappeared, Dagoyan Masters of Bardotta are going missing which we find out is the result of Mother Talzin trying to regain corporeal form again. The Bardottan’s appeal to the senate for help & will only accept Senator Binks as an emmisary. Palps sees an opportunity to undermine the Jedi & so brings it to their attention from which we get : “A strong connection to the force the Dagoyan Masters have. Yet, unlike the Jedi or the Sith they are. Warriors, they are not. Intuition, knowledge, the harmony of the universe is what they sense. Passively they connect with the force. P: I wonder why the the queen doesn’t want a Jedi sent to solve this mystery ? Long ago inducted into the Jedi order Bardottan children were. However, thieves the Jedi were named by the Dagoyan. Mace: The Dagoyan Masters believed the Jedi took the children against their will, we were labelled as kidnappers.” Turning to what we haven’t seen of the tragedy/altercation; “I want to be a Jedi, mama. I do. I must discuss this situation with everyone here. But we will consider your wish when we do so." Seems like that discussion w/ evervone might not have gone very well. Aniseya's remark that Oshie will never see her again can be read as Jedi must sever all attachments but also can be read as foreknowledge of how the convo w/ the coven advisors was going to go 🤷♂️. Re: the Greek fates (Moirai); Clotho spins the thread of life, Lachesis measures it, & Atropos cuts (ends) it. The Peridea Night Sisters of Ahsoka were named Klothow, Lakesis, Aktropaw & their headdresses eluded to their respective roles. And finally a fun little easily missed detail is that the door of the room that Oshie is trapped in and is set ablaze is designed to resemble Vader’s helmet. Just a cool design choice as Vader obviously has nothing to do w/ this show 100yrs before he’s born. But maybe a foreshadowing of the beginning of the path that leads to him. Also a further link between Oshie & Mae & the Chosen One.
Forgot to add but while it’s in the trailer, it’s slightly spoilery… @ 0:21 of the trailer posted May 4th we can see what would appear to be Sol scaling the wall of the coven’s compound. We see this same part of the compound at the beginning of ep3 when Mother Koril takes the girls back. Curiously they are walking past what would seem to be the entrance and towards the part of the wall that in the trailer appears to be a Jedi (looks to be dark hair so likely Sol) climbing it.
If Aniseya used the Force to create Mae and Osha inside of Koril, I get why they wouldn't look like Koril since there's no genetic connection to Koril.
[24:00] Guys, the twins are neither Messiahs or Chosen ones. The suggestion that Darth Sidious used the Force to somehow create a life and cause a woman he’s never met to become pregnant is not the takeaway I got from the opera scene in Ep.3. If anything., Palpatine was describing the actions of a Sith Master, who was later killed by his Apprentice. And, it was all a lie. We learn later that Palpatine was speaking about his relationship with his own Sith Master. He even tells Anakin that his Master never truly learned the secret, but together they may discover the secret.
I’m sorry, Michael. You have no idea what you’re talking about most of time. Yoda was 100% correct when he told Luke that he was “the last of the Jedi.” All the character names that you rattled off after the [26:30] mark were not Jedi. Yoda was talking about people that were trained and knighted by Jedi Masters that lived in the Jedi Temple prior to Order 66. Luke is referred to as “The Last Jedi” in the opening crawl of Episode 7. Luke is also part of the double meaning behind the title of Ep.8, “The Last Jedi.”. Meanwhile, you other guys did not correct Michael. Good luck on future videos, guys.
This episode highlighted again the arrogance and presumption of the Jedi movement imo. This came across in the prequels as well from a political perspective. I found this witch coven fascinating. The Force is neutral and there would be many interpretations of it. The Jedi should have either left this coven alone or just observed it to add to their own knowledge.
I get why people may be a bit upset about Anakin no longer seemingly being unique by being created by the Force. His 'Chosen One' status was already usurped by Rey in the ST and, here, we're seeing someone else (elses, I guess) pre-empting Anakin once again. What I don't have time for is the subsequent screeching and gnashing of teeth and spewing vitriol b/c of it. Any time SW kinda goes back and pre-empts or undercuts a previous character or storyline, it annoys me. It even annoys me in my favorite series, Star Trek; I would point to the Trials and Tribulations episode and, while I'm not a fan of Tribbles or Tribbles episodes, in general, I never liked it b/c it undercuts Kirk and the TOS crew's heroic efforts to save the day by having Sisko & Co steal their thunder. So, I get it. I just refuse to go all toxic over it.
I’m just going to plaster my “big theory” about what’s going on here too. -Aniseya used the Force to create the twins. Koril mentioned how the Jedi would be upset if they knew how they were created. -Mae might have set the initial fire, but I suspect that, much like the Jedi were drawn to these two special kids, the Sith master tracked them down too in hopes of a potential apprentice and was responsible for the level of destruction and the deaths of the villagers. This would also still jive with how Mae thinks the Jedi were responsible. - I think the Sith master extracted the knowledge to create life through the Force from Aniseya and will use it to create Anakin Skywalker. Making this Sith Palaptine’s master or Palpatine’s master’s master. Let’s not forget the reference to the “unnatural”.
It's possible the master is Plagueis who learns that this happened but not how it happened, so he's spends the rest of his life trying to solve it through genetics and his own Dark Side ability to manipulate midi-chlorians. I'm thinking the masked person is the master's (Plagueis') apprentice, recruiting their own acolyte to become their apprentice when they try to take out their master per the Rule of Two. Basically, as seems to be a number of things about the series, it's their version of Asajj Ventress with the masked person being the Dooku stand-in.
Very good theory, the sith lord of this time would have the most to gain from the coven being destroyed. BTW Darth plagueis does have a master. Master tenabress
Mike as much a I love you, you are wrong on the creation of Anakin. Both Matt Martin from the story group and Charles Soule, the writer have, in no uncertain terms, debunked the idea that Palps created Ani. LFL's position now is that it was the will of the force itself that created Anakin in response to the growing darkside power of Plageuis and Sidious
Michael is assuming a lot, by saying the Jedi know how the twins were created. Also, they haven’t revealed how they created them yet, so stating that they were created using the force/thread, is premature.
And I think you guys are spot on with the speculation about the Jedi involvement in the fire and the explosion. Totally missed Torbin having the wound when Osha wakes on the ship; great catch, John. Some devious shit definitely went down.
Shannon once again speaking my launguage with the Colleague comment 😂😂. Just so off brand for jedi. Jodie Smith and the Ms. Levieva were excellent 👌🏽. I just hope telnacca isn't a saboteur and the Sith is who killed everyone
In every Star Wars lore movie , shows , books , comics etc… the Jedi or Sith learn techniques from ancient teachings usually in Jedi or Sith holocrons. Plagaus learning how to manipulate life from this coven of witches lines up perfectly in the timeline. I have no problem with this and liked this episode
When the girls come back home, there is a whole bazaar/village outside their temple. That woman with the treats was not part of the Coven. So the Jedi to say “we thought this planet was abandoned” is ridiculous.
I’m behind on the show and finally catching up. I saw where Episode 3 got a lot of shit before I watched it. I’m confused why people are so upset. I loved this episode!!!!! I love the fact that the show is showing a possible darker light to the Jedi order.
Probably the worst episode of Star Wars. Mae is unlikeable, she murdered Jedi! Why? Osha wants to be a Jedi. Why? the Jedi are being crucified in this story! The Covan chanting was cringe worthy and use of the force looked like air bending. What’s missing from the story is a clear motivation from the characters that we can relate to on a human level, in this way the story is poorly structured.
The more I think about this episode, the more I think a lot of how people are being portrayed is way off. This is all from OSHAs POV right? If she wants to get away so badly, of course she’s going to see anything having to do with leaving in this positive glowing light. She’s going to see her sister as this smothering force and her other mother as being super harsh, etc. because to do otherwise could make her want to stay. She’s a child and everything seems bigger. Mae could potentially not be anywhere near as “evil” or pushy in actuality, but the lens which osha sees her life could be distorting what’s really happening.
Imagine shilling for lucasfilm, marvel, and Disney for over a decade in order to gain access, and become part of the in-crowd, only to barely get 8000 views per video…
These Jedi are a fascinating in-between from the more benevolent Jedi of The High Republic we've seen from the books and comics and the Jedi we see during the Prequel era. I think we're seeing that transition, which is why we're questioning the Jedi here.
Once I started looking at the world, stage around the actors I thought “so they’re definitely drawing reference from the visions episodes and then I immediately thought man this would have been excellent as a visions episode.
I always thought in my own head canon that Plagueis created Anakin upon his death at the hands of Sidious-Palpatine as some sort of revenge against Sidious-Palpatine for killing him too soon*, a sort of final lesson for Palpatine. According to the lore Plagueis was more interested in powers and esoterism of the force whereas Palpatine had political ambitions to dominate people. Plagueis was trying to learn how to live forever like previous Vitiate before him. It would be ironic if on his death bed Plagueis reached out into the force and "created" Anakin and the story would come full circle.
If Mother Aniseya was the one who created them, why wasn't she also the one to carry them? "Immaculate conception" requires a woman to carry the child, which she could have done herself. I'm with Mike - underwhelmed. I'm getting from everyone who's seen Ep4 that they're going to do a Rashomon thing - a great movie that worked well b/c the basic story was a simple one. Not sure anything in the SW universe is all that simple. Covering my eyes.
Geek Buddies do not disappoint! Love your insights and comments. I didn't like the episode and really am not liking the show much. As a viewer, it's a struggle to forgive the poor acting, dialog, and pacing.
@@elramillete the prequels are garbage and shows like this are handcuffed by the foundation of garbage they are built upon. Any long term storytelling involving the Jedi will be hampered by dumb stuff introduced in the prequels. Specifically the Sith rule of 2, stealing toddlers and infants, and the Jedi stoicism with no emotional attachment.. have all hampered storytelling. It’s why Filoni had to create the Inquisitors and completely ignore Jedi not having emotions and love interests.. but you give him a pass because you were 8 yrs old during those awful clone Wars cartoons.
@@majorlazor5058 The writing in this show is not above what was done in the prequels. 90% of the characters react in a very implausible way. ¿why do you think I give Filoni a pass? Ahsoka was a bad too
The writer Charles soule that did the comic where the idea came from that palpatine created anakin said that it was a dream and hinted at but that the narrative that he's from palpatine is not real it wasn't confirming anything. honestly all this story is just all over the place for me
Rocha’s audio in this one is hard to deal with. What his volume going up and down when he was talking. Almost like there was noise reduction turned on. Or something.
@@JohnRochaSays yeah it was weird, Mikey and Shanon sounded fine. it was strange! thanks for the awesome episode. sorry I typed your name wrong! my bad!
What I gather is that the twins look nothing like Mother Koril because she is strictly a surrogate mother with no actual biological influence on their genetics. The twins are human and Black because they are essentially made in Mother Aniseya's image: wherher that was because of Force manipulation to spark life, or some Kaminoean-styled cloning science using Aniseya's eggs, or sleeping with a male (the Sith father) and for other reasons using Koril as the surrogate, they are biologically fashioned after Aniseya. As for the fire, it seems pretty clear that the fire only coincided with or was coordinated to occur at the same time as some other effect (whether poison, or physical attack) that actually killed the witches. Maybe that is the Sith looking to claim the twins the same way the Jedi came to get them, OR the Jedi intending to incapacitate the witches only long enough to leave with Osha uncontested and it going wrong, OR Koril being angry at the Coven and eliminating them so she could forceably keep Mae and Osha, either way I agree these accounts are only what informed Osha's and Sol's points of view on the past.
@@thejuansnow really? How? It's fan fiction. It in NO way aligns with the creator's (Lucas) vision. They bought the rights to continue the story not to change it.
@Jim.Simpson no no, you tell ME how it isn't star wars. Because as a 25+ year fan I can tell you 2 things 1 it in no way goes against established lore And 2 it's no more fan fiction than the EU was as THOSE weren't following George's vision at all either. If you're not one of those who gets offended by the inclusion of POC and queer folksnthis show is FINE. it's flawed sure, but so is the entire franchise
@@thejuansnow well given that I have 40 plus years of being a fan and represent one of four generations in my family of fans, I'll explain myself to you. The fact that you bring up sex and ethnicity helps to clarify the lack of understanding you have for the IP. Those issues were dealt with long before the story started being told. George Lucas has made it very clear that this is a universe that has moved on from those types of issues. That's what makes it very clear, and I mean very clear, that this show is nothing more than an attempt to bring modern politics into the storytelling. What they have done is stopped telling fresh stories and focused on retconning the things they don't like. The reason that Anakin was so special was because he was conceived without natural methods. This show removes that. It means that Yoda, mace, Qui-Gon jinn, and even Obi-Wan Kenobi wasted all of their time and energy. Anakin was not special, therefore Luke and Leia had no purpose, and Rey were of no real significance. What this show is attempting to do is remove all of the understanding we have around the universe of Star Wars. It's not going to work. The reason that the fans have United in rejecting it is because it undoes the very nature of that universe. So I appreciate your 25 plus years of being a fan. I appreciate that you think that it's significant that these people are talking about who they sleep with and what color their skin is. Unfortunately Star Wars universe does not care about those things. And ultimately those who are fans do not care either. The fans are sick and tired of the conversations that come from the position of hate and intolerance.
@Jim.Simpson I keep trying to reply but I'm working so it keeps getting erased, I only mention race and sexuality because I've been seeing so much hate surrounding that online. They don't even say these women are lesbians a woman touches another woman's face, that's not really pushing anything on anyone. I'll come back to explain how this absolutely does not take away from anakins being special in a few, because according to all lore we have ot really doesnt
Hey guys. So refreshing to hear your overall positive feelings in this. The vitriol online from certain corners over the coven and the “mothers” is just getting exhausting. Funny that the same people now saying this shits on George Lucas’ vision are probably the same ones who claimed George Lucas r aped their childhood with the prequels. Personally, I found the episode interesting albeit clunky. Maybe that is in the direction like you said. Or.. maybe upcoming episodes will make us look back on this one and say “ah haaaaaa!” :) I’m still invested and am hoping for some action packed Star Warsy episodes in the coming weeks. Overall I have felt the show has been somewhat predictable so far, so I’m hoping it takes me in more unexpected directions soon. :) Thanks again for your take on it. Refreshing and entertaining as always. Hi Shannon.. 😂
Lotta unnecessarily angry people out there who are taking their hate about the world out on Star Wars. It's a shame to see. There are some legitimate criticisms out there and there are some sexist, racist and homophobic ones. Legitimate ones are worth listening to. The other ones are not.
I am intrigued by the mystery. Not liking the direction though. Sol is still my fav character. Overall its ok.I dont get the fuss about the lore. I want to see non jedi and sith force orgs...
Usually I’m very lenient when it comes to new Star Wars material, but this episode, oh boy, I couldn’t wait for it to end. I understand what this episode was for and the premise, but it just wouldn’t end. My friend who was watching the episode with me started the drinking game every time Mae said “Osha” and he got plastered by the end of it 😂
Well, I won’t be having any so I won’t experience the scene with that POV. But my criticism was not that the fight happened. It was more about how it was staged and how it pulled focus unnecessarily.
It was an awkwardly staged scene. The camera positioning and pacing. The guys point about pulling audience focus from what the mother was teaching was a mistake, there wasn't a lot of lead up to their disagreement or spat it just happened spontaneously all at once like a director said "and now you start arguing and bickering". It didn't feel like there was any emotional weight behind why. It wasn't so much the performance as it was the direction-writing there.
This show (The Acolyte) is still very average viewing (the writing & directing lets it down). But the this episode has left me somewhat intrigued by what actually happened in the castle, which I think is "the mystery" part of this show. Oh and I think the music is a highlight.
I respect the work you guys do for a living, but I think you guys are WAY over analyzing this. You guys lost me five minutes into the video, “I don’t know directing children is Lesley Headland’s strong suit.”
Because of comments about how the twins were created, I stuck around to hear what you guys had to say. You guys need to rewatch the episode so that you can evaluate your false conclusions over how the twins were conceived. Mother Aniseya said, “I created them.” A lot of fans have jumped to the premature conclusion that the witches “created life” using the Force, Thread, or some dark magic. And, so have you. The Kaminoans created life, too. They did it through cloning. In other Star Wars content, cloning beings that are strong with the Force is an elusive goal. Yes, Mother Aniseya could have use dark magic to create life from the Trhead. Do we really know that Anakin was created by the Force? If so, then how do we know that. Mother Aniseya could have also used dark magic to modify a clone of herself as twin beings, too. The twins seem to be some type of rare Dyad. We really do not know how the twins were created, no more than we know how the fire got so out of control so quickly. In fact, we know more about the fire than we do about the twins creation. Did you notice Mother Koril observing sparks and noises coming from the power generator after the lesson? Osha looked toward the ceiling as she was escaping the fire, when she heard a loud boom and many voices crying out. Something seems to have exploded, but we just do not know what. As the episode drew to a close, we have a beauty shot of the fortress on fire. Yet, we were given glimpses of the entire forest ablaze in teasers and and the first episode. Have you guys ever listened to the “Descriptive Audio” track while watching Star Wars shows? Try it. It can be enlightening.
@@thesharpercoder Right.......it's called a review and we give our opinions on what we're seeing and what we're hearing. We all watch these episodes multiple times and come up with our own conclusions. We do occasionally miss something, but it's pretty clear that Aniseya says she created the twins and Koril carried them. We're not grabbing stuff out of thin air. We say it MULTIPLE TIMES in the episode the we are seeing it snot the full truth of what happened and that we might be going back to these moments to get the full truth. Maybe you need to watch our review again so you can note every time we say that. None of us were accepting anything as the full truth. There is more to come.
For those thinking of the twins as a mystery, it's simple. Mother Aniseya is a Futanari. By the way if you don't know what a Futa is, don't google it at work. Safe search alerts may go off. 😈
This episode was very bland, and I totally agree with the kid actors in this episode is very difficult and to me there performance so far has been poorly written and annoying at best…these children were acting too young and not believable to me cringe worthy at best…
I haven't even watched this video yet, just want to say before I see what you guys say, this episode of The Acolyte was soooo bad. I hated everything about it. Now to watch what you guys have to say
John said the witches weren't presented as evil people. You're right, they weren't, the Jedi were. The Jedi were 100% the villains here. So much so that it's going to be hard to watch the rest of this show and root for Sol. What I took from this is that I want May to succeed in killing all the Jedi. She really is the Bride in Kill Bill. And the Jedi are the assassins who deserve to die.
From what was presented in this episode. I see your POV. But I have a feeling that we’ll be revisiting what happened here a few more times this season and it will change our perspective.
What in the world...i feel like im taking crazy pills or something because if you compare this show, this episode to ANY other show on any other network, the difference is night and day. Not one thing in this show is remotely in the same camp as The Boys, Shogun, House of the Dragon, even Superman and Lois is LEAGUES above the writing in this show. The acting aside from Sol, is barely high school level. If you had told me this was everyones first acting role, i would 100% believe it. This discussion just feels like people making excuses and doing mental gymnastics to not be lumped into the hate geoups...it feels disingenuous and insulting to us who have eyes and ears
The reason they didn’t show Carrie-Anne Moss saying “with your permission of course” was because they added it later after filming. They had no idea what they were doing. 🫣
