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Star Wars: The Complete History of the Galaxy - Full Legends Timeline 

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Corey breaks down the complete 100,000+ history of the Star Wars galaxy in the Legends timeline, from the ancient celestials, through the Mandalorian and Sith Wars into the Old Republic and up through the adventures of the Skywalkers and New Jedi Order, finishing off with the Legacy era and Darth Krayt!
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@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
Said Freedon Nadd went to Alderaan, but I meant Onderon.
@attilathehun5067
@attilathehun5067 2 года назад
Okay I was confused, I thought "So there's a city of Iziz on Onderon and Alderaan?" It's cool that the Clone Wars took from that lore though.
@jacensolo2918
@jacensolo2918 2 года назад
And after he died, he was entombed on Onderon’s moon, Dxun
@Calamity4
@Calamity4 2 года назад
This will be good, keep up the amazing work
@amysargent4237
@amysargent4237 2 года назад
Hey Corey, notice how similar the beginnings of Star Wars, and Halo are to each other? Read my other comment for detail.
@kevinvassago
@kevinvassago 2 года назад
Amd meanwhile, porgs just be chillen on ach-to, in their own little world where none of this even matters
@auroraofclanborealis
@auroraofclanborealis 2 года назад
I love how there's no intro, its just immediately into the lore
@fluffly3606
@fluffly3606 Год назад
My main complaint with Legends lore is the continuation post-Endor of the cycle of Jedi-Sith conflicts in more or less the same form as ever, which I argue cheapens Anakin Skywalker's sacrifice more than the resurrection of Sidious ever could. The vast majority of Legends lore other than that is much more immersive and believable than current Disney canon.
@MatthewLee-fo3me
@MatthewLee-fo3me Год назад
@@emzonik8851 I don't mind the idea of the Yuuzhan Vong. If Endor is the climax of the films, an extragalatic invasion is the climax to the whole Star Wars mythos. That said, I wish the Vong war was set a couple hundred years later than it is. Let Luke, Leia, and Han have their happy ending.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
@@MatthewLee-fo3me I don't mind the concept either, it's actually amazing. However, while the Vong invasion itself wouldn't bother me if handled properly, its actual scale kinda does. Cos restoring balance to the Force by Anakin Skywalker IS the climax to all of star wars and should never be undermined by Expanded Universe stories. Nonetheless, I don't think YV arch actually does, it's simply dangerously close to doing that.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 Год назад
​@@emzonik8851The Yuuzan Vong make sense as new enemies unlike the sith and empire who were supposed to be destroyed from Anakin's prophecy which was a problem i had with most post ROTJ stories in the EU.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 2 года назад
The only negative I can see is that the video is only around 20 minutes long. I honestly believe that a video like this could be over an hour long.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
A video like this could be any length, and I could do multiple versions going.more in depth for different runtimes, but for a lot of people going over 20 minutes wouldn't be especially accessible so it seemed like a good place to start.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad I see.
@allnamesaretakenful
@allnamesaretakenful 2 года назад
If it were an hour long, I wouldn't watch it.
@hravandil9993
@hravandil9993 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad I'd love a much longer version
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 2 года назад
@@allnamesaretakenful you would watch it and you would like it
@KingOfKent507
@KingOfKent507 2 года назад
Alternative title: the entire history of the star wars galaxy, I guess
@AzraylPax
@AzraylPax 2 года назад
Anyone else feel the new canon really messed up galactic history by saying the High Republic era was only approx 200 years BBY? The Old Republic was over 25,000 years old, how are they still just expanding in the universe a mere 200 years ago?
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 года назад
They're following prequel movie only logic which states the Republic was founded only a thousand years prior, after the galactic war with the Sith. They're using that as the starting point for their Star Wars timeline I assume.
@RevanMartinez
@RevanMartinez 2 года назад
Yeah they fucked up when they said when hyperspace travel was invented
@digitalninja5941
@digitalninja5941 2 года назад
@@corruptangel6793 They kinda fixed that with the Darth Bane books by explaining the Old republic was gone after the new sith wars was ended and the new Galactic Republic was founded. Similar to legends when the new republic fell and the Galactic alliance was reformed from the remnants. But I don't follow the new Canon so I don't know and care what the high republic is I just know legends stuff.
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 года назад
@@digitalninja5941 same.
@ryancarrell3186
@ryancarrell3186 2 года назад
@@RevanMartinez what? I don't think modern canon has established a fixed point for when Hyperspace was invented yet.
@charlieo1138
@charlieo1138 2 года назад
I know Eck was unhappy with the response to his brief history video but his and yours have both been tremendous!
@rodolfohernandez3303
@rodolfohernandez3303 2 года назад
Now that's why Star Wars Legends is better than the Cannon series
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 2 года назад
So called canon...
@blaineishere3851
@blaineishere3851 2 года назад
This version of the galaxy had almost 40 years to build to this point. Give the new canon time. It’ll get up to this level of detail and possibly even more.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 2 года назад
@@blaineishere3851 It doesn't mean they can't continue the old canon at the same time.
@blaineishere3851
@blaineishere3851 2 года назад
@@emzonik8851 I didn’t say they shouldn’t.
@luluflu1140
@luluflu1140 2 года назад
@@blaineishere3851 The original Star Wars lore only had 23 years from 1991 to 2014 to really develop and grow to become a true continuity : "The premise of all the comic books, novels, games, and other spin-off works is that they all work chronologically, that the continuity forms one unbroken story. […] Since our movies have their own internal continuity, we maintain that in the spin-off works. Technically, George Lucas has been doing continuity all along by mapping out the nine films. But it wasn't until 1991, when Timothy Zahn wrote the novel Heir to the Empire, the first Star Wars best-seller, which was the beginning of what we call the Star Wars renaissance, that continuity became an issue." LUCASFILM CONTINUITY EDITOR ALLAN KAUSCH, 1996
@knightonart8886
@knightonart8886 2 года назад
Sometimes I wonder about the possibilities if Disney hadn't discontinued Legends. They could have continued telling stories hundreds and even thousands of years after the Skywalker's. The possibilities are truly endless.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
I always thought Legacy happenes to close to the main story and the post - Endor events like NJO and LOTF, it would be better if it took place like 250 - 300 years or so later. And I'd love stories ser millenia into the furure.
@geobroplayz
@geobroplayz 2 года назад
Imagine we are just in a Star Wars galaxy just a very pre historic version
@JM-vl3cy
@JM-vl3cy 2 года назад
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" seems pretty explanatory to me
@keepmovingforward1722
@keepmovingforward1722 2 года назад
Disney should just release 90 minute films in the 2003 clone wars animation and title them “Star Wars Legends movies” It’s a win-win. Disney makes more money and they appease both fandoms.
@theenoogie
@theenoogie 2 года назад
What an overwhelming feat to have accomplished. I mean a whole timeline of the legends era, it’s bananas!
@heavyarms55
@heavyarms55 2 года назад
I just want to say, I came back to my computer to watch anime. But I saw this video and had to watch it first. Worth! Great content Corey! These videos just keep getting better!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Anime, huh? What are you watching?
@T4Eagle137
@T4Eagle137 2 года назад
If you haven't done one yet, it would be cool to see the history of Abeloth since she's also lived a few millennia in the Legends timeline.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
Well the thing is, while she was far more powerfull being than any previous villan, she didn't impact the history of the galaxy on a scale Darth Sidious or even others like the ancient Sith, Rakata or tye Vong did. She was soley a Jedi opponent and caused some damage on coruscant for example, other tha that the galaxy continued to exist as it had been, nothing had changed. So in a summary video like this, that looks at the history of the entire galaxy, only the key events can be mentioned, like the Jedi-Sith wars, the Vong war and of course the rise and fall of the Galactic Empire.
@Imstilltired511
@Imstilltired511 Год назад
Yes!!! I agree!!
@desertfox6669
@desertfox6669 2 года назад
Thats exactly why star wars legends is truly AMAZING
@forcierlogan
@forcierlogan 2 года назад
That’s why it’ll remain infinitely better than cannon for all of Star Wars’ legacy.
@thomasshirley318
@thomasshirley318 2 года назад
Better. its better than Canon
@kevinvassago
@kevinvassago 2 года назад
This will always be canon
@Ljordan093
@Ljordan093 2 года назад
Damn right son!
@bcskate3193
@bcskate3193 2 года назад
@@kevinvassago agreed
@maxizzda8011
@maxizzda8011 2 года назад
That was a really good summery for 20 mintes! One thing I thought was missing was the role of Vitiate/Valkorion for an entire millenium.
@ragingoaktree
@ragingoaktree 2 года назад
I like how he calls the Star Forge a “giant 3D Printer” lol
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Год назад
A “giant 3D printer” powered by the Dark Side though. So your average SCP.
@BillyForbes-h2r
@BillyForbes-h2r Год назад
Love it. I mean, he did miss out the first rider's rebellion against the new republic, but I was really curious to find out why where in charge before the rakata and what happened after 100 ABY
@Ifedude
@Ifedude 2 года назад
Excellent summation of decades of storytelling and worldbuilding! Hopefully the Legends universe will be allowed to continue beyond SWTOR, one day...
@MrEvers
@MrEvers Год назад
I just want to know 3 things for my EU experience to feel wrapped up: 1. Zayne Carrick's fate during the Jedi civil war and following purge 2. Who sits on the Throne of Balance, what's Allana's destiny 3. The creation of the Fel Empire, how did Jagged become emperor, how is Jaina involved, creation of the Imperial Knights...
@jacensolo2918
@jacensolo2918 2 года назад
Very comprehensive timeline. Very well done! Thanks for posting this!
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 года назад
I gotta ask, how'd you feel about your biopic? I know they didn't use your real name, but did you think Kylo Ren did a good job? 🤣
@willthelemon5681
@willthelemon5681 2 года назад
I am always reminded how kind of nuts Legends is. I really only experienced a fraction of it in Jedi Academy and Outcast but sheesh love it. *Insert Disney bad here* I do wish the sequels had that sort of gumption to start moving away from the Skywalkers. If you read about the early version of Kylo Ren who was going to essentially be a sith grave robber which sounded epic to me but hey I won't beat a dead horse for too long. TLDR Legends was wild!
@nobod2567
@nobod2567 2 года назад
Getting back to learning about the legends universe gave me huge nostalgia
@МенМаатСет
@МенМаатСет 2 года назад
It is sad, that we did not find out about the events after 139 ABY.
@emilmedina5273
@emilmedina5273 9 месяцев назад
Remember there are three canon timelines in Star Wars: The Lucas Canon: The original six movies. (Said by himself.) The Disney Canon: Everything disney has done from 2014 and on. The Legends Canon: Every story before 2014. The novels, Dark Horse comics, the games (old republic, The force unleashed, Jedi academy and so on.) Legends was kept alive by disney on disney plus, further alluding to the fact that legends is another timeline instead of "fanfiction" as people thought when it got decanonized. You can choose whichever, so choose wisely.... May the force be with you, always.
@NerdyRomulanCyberman17
@NerdyRomulanCyberman17 3 месяца назад
And then there’s my canon, which is Legends Canon, Lucas Canon, and Rogue One. That’s what I choose to believe.
@StarWarsExpandedUniverse
@StarWarsExpandedUniverse Год назад
You forgot a short comic called "The Storyteller", which takes place in 2,000 ABY.
@raviamodernepic
@raviamodernepic 2 года назад
The Tales of the Jedi Dark Horse stuff was my favorite as a kid. Great recap!
@alexadeshigbin8129
@alexadeshigbin8129 2 года назад
This is awesome, I learned so much in 20 minutes. Might have to rewatch it with a pen and pad to retain everything though
@JacenSolo0
@JacenSolo0 2 года назад
Great video I just searched for the star wars legends timeline and this came up !
@psychic9200
@psychic9200 2 года назад
Been wanting a video like this for awhile. Great work man
@nickwhyman4815
@nickwhyman4815 2 года назад
Sorry your vid got shafted by the algorithm. It’s a real banger.
@jonathanward3633
@jonathanward3633 2 года назад
I love Legends, in a lot of ways prefer it to the Disney universe, but geez, the sith just keep coming back, I guess Anakin wasn't the chosen one!
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 года назад
A lot of people created various forms of headcanon to explain that away. Like it only applied to the Rule of Two Sith specifically, or that he failed to fullfil his destiny alltogether. The headcanon I used played on Yoda's mention that they might have misread the prophesy and that the Chosen One wasn't a single person, but a bloodline. The Skywalker bloodline to be exact.
@jonathanward3633
@jonathanward3633 2 года назад
@@corruptangel6793 those are all great ideas
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 2 года назад
I use my own head canon in which Disney wars sucks ass and legends never left lol
@chrisburns514
@chrisburns514 2 года назад
You’re talking about Ajunta Pal and Marka Ragnos and I’m just here like yup, I’m a huge nerd, I have these names buried in memories lmao
@acrazysheepdog1555
@acrazysheepdog1555 2 года назад
Only 8k views despite this video nearing twenty five minutes? Such a shame man, it’s great!
@youALLadopted95
@youALLadopted95 2 года назад
Came here from Eckart’s Ladder. Great work!
@darkslayer1161
@darkslayer1161 2 года назад
Same
@nicholasgentzsch3182
@nicholasgentzsch3182 2 года назад
AMAZING. TRUELY AMAZING.
@youALLadopted95
@youALLadopted95 2 года назад
Disney had all this inspiration but chose the Palpatine/Planet Killers route remakes… I’ve never seen episodes 8 or 9 and probably never will.
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 2 года назад
Eh, Palpatine coming back might've worked if we got an actual fight between him and Luke. As for the planet busters, maybe swap them out for the Eclipse and World Devastators?
@RevanMartinez
@RevanMartinez 2 года назад
You aren't missing much.
@JM-vl3cy
@JM-vl3cy 2 года назад
Episode 8 is.. surprising (sometimes in a bad way, sometimes in a good way, least bad of the trilogy imo), episode 9 is an embarassing disaster. Not worth the watch, it's pretty clear the trilogy was improvised as the movies came out and Disney had no idea what 9 would be when they did 7. Very incompetent trilogy overall, and does not do much to expand the SW universe.
@JonathanMonk21
@JonathanMonk21 2 года назад
Man, the ancient history of the EU was very Dune-ish
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 7 месяцев назад
Star Wars and Game of Thrones were heavily influenced by the old Dune books.
@Martian2607
@Martian2607 2 года назад
I’ve been anticipating this video
@dragonhawkeclouse2264
@dragonhawkeclouse2264 Год назад
I have NEVER understood how there could be a with LEGEND of the tragedy of Darth Plagues the wise, if it had JUST happened That is NOT a "legend", nor even a story, that was a real event that had JUST happened Was Palpy merely trying to make it SOUND older than what it was?
@שרהביטחוןשלאוריורד
Twist: the other humans of coruscant were nothing but ourselves and the new ones are a more advanced version of mankind that we created. Ot maybe the other humans were Neanderthals and we were the humans that won.
@andrewbogard2411
@andrewbogard2411 2 года назад
@8:54 44 BBY lol, im pretty sure he meant 4400 bby unless they used some kind of time machine
@synthilein
@synthilein 2 года назад
thank you so much for this video and especially the subtitles. i'm not a native english speaker...
@indymcconnell
@indymcconnell 2 года назад
I hope we never let "Legends" disappear into obscurity. It's so much better than what Disney has concocted.
@Hikmetihalide
@Hikmetihalide 2 года назад
Great work Corey, I admire you. I believe this is not the official canon, but original canon ( or timeline ) before Disney took place. Any idea why they changed the canon and how they changed it? I would appreciate if you could elaborate it in another extended video, and what Disney changed in the history of Star Wars originals.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
Back in the EU days George's saga wasn't meant to be continued after the prequels. The saga was about Anakin Skywalker and how he changed the galaxy, once Anakin died the main story ended. Spinoff movies and shows were expected but no sequel trilogy. Thus the EU writers were free to, well, expand the universe as much as they could, they told many story archs like the continuation of the timeline beyond Return Of The Jedi, including how Luke restarted the Jedi Order and what new threats did it have to face, like the Yuuzhan Vong or Jacen Solo's fall to the Dark Side. These stories were jot of course the vision of George Lucas, he did aproove them (and yeah they were officially canon), but he obviously cared mostly about his story, the one which was already finished. Closer ro the end of his ownership of Lucasfilm, George did think about a sequel trilogy (which would've contradicted the EU) for financial reasons but he chose to retire and sell SW to instead. Disney on the other hand wanted to make as many movies and shows as possible, they wanted to create their own version of Star Wars, their own continuation of the Big 3's adventures. Yet the EU was so huge and comprehensive (and wasn't in line with what they wanted to do - basically bring back the well known themes that the mass would buy), they decided to basically restart the continuity, leaving only Episodes 1-6 and TCW as a base for new stories, mostly movies and TV shows but also new novels comics and cideo games that would be in line with the new timeline. The EU material was rebranded into Legends, a separate universe also built around the same story of Anakin Skywalker, though unfortunately Disney wanted and still wants everyone ro focus on their story, so they prevenyed Legends from being continued or advertised on any large scale and new fans don't even know what Legends really is. Anyway, that's how the New Canon began. The official reason for its creation was "creative freedom", however they basically did it to pick and choose what they like from the old canon and reshape it the way that matched their agenda. Nonetheless, the EU wasn't really designed for a sequel trilogy. To keep it all in one universe, the sequel movies would have to adapt the EU, which was possible but quite unlikely. So this is I think enough to understand why and how they split the continuities.
@Hikmetihalide
@Hikmetihalide Год назад
​@@emzonik8851 thanks. The EU has a massive and unlimited storyline comparing to the Disney's official canon. The books, comics, games has told a lot already. The beginning of the universe, and sentients,the Jedii order is much more interesting than any other commercial stuff. Wish Lucas had a chance to dig in to that story independently.
@InsertNameHere73894
@InsertNameHere73894 Год назад
Replace the Sequels with Legends lore. This is the way.
@HeroicAge616
@HeroicAge616 2 года назад
Great video :)
@bigorange2082
@bigorange2082 2 года назад
Awesome video. Thank you.
@Ptaaruonn
@Ptaaruonn 2 года назад
Amazing work.
@obi-wankenobi2042
@obi-wankenobi2042 2 года назад
You forget the scourge of malachor in 3566.
@pattanakit
@pattanakit Год назад
i wish this was taught in school.
@alexgaelsotorodriguez3870
@alexgaelsotorodriguez3870 2 года назад
After the Vong invasion things just stop making sense
@squirrel6675
@squirrel6675 2 года назад
I love how the Star Wars galaxy emerged and got life only a couple hundred thousand years before is became so advanced their was almost nothing left to advance and that civilization will get lost and be more advanced than anything but in real life it would take millions of year
@stuartgrier5605
@stuartgrier5605 2 года назад
Brilliant video
@starwars90001
@starwars90001 2 года назад
The Star Wars movies become footnotes in the universe they created in legends, in the grand scale of it all Luke destorying the Death Star almost becomes meaningless.
@starwars90001
@starwars90001 2 года назад
@@papapalps2415 What?
@ImTheReverse
@ImTheReverse 2 года назад
@@starwars90001 He’s saying you always give incredibly hot takes.
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 года назад
It’s one of the more Inportant aspects of the unquestionably canon movie era. Though it’s not as big of factor in either the old Legends continuity and nor the new canon on the larger scale, which makes some sense being the galactic history stretches back at least a thousand generations.
@starwars90001
@starwars90001 2 года назад
@@eds1942 That's what I mean, in the grand scale of Star Wars not just the movie era, the events of the movies almost feel small.
@thedatatreader
@thedatatreader 2 года назад
The movies didn't have the budget for a World Devestator type scene, and the books had to keep on-upping past a planet destroying device and subsequently past each previous novel's stakes until we end up with galaxy ending devices in the Infinite Empire timelines. The novels created some incredible scenarios that I'm glad exist, but the movies started the entire process. I would also hardly say the original trilogy was a footnote, since they ended the tyrannical subjugation of the entire galaxy by the Empire which I don't think was matched except by the Yuuzan Vong or perhaps the Rakata.
@chronicdose
@chronicdose 2 года назад
Very interesting video!
@laverniustucker8198
@laverniustucker8198 2 года назад
First like, comment, and view. Keep up the good work and stay safe as always.
@suttonw
@suttonw Год назад
I wish Disney would’ve continued with the old canon
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 7 месяцев назад
Disney can always import material from Legends into the canon stories. Which they are slowly doing.
@GrandMoffOfMars
@GrandMoffOfMars Год назад
order 66 in the Canon timeline actually didn't happen. I'm convinced at this point. so many survivors now. some we even saw die on camera are coming back now thanks to Disney sparkly magic
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 7 месяцев назад
Yeah? Like who?
@GrandMoffOfMars
@GrandMoffOfMars 7 месяцев назад
@@nightraven2975 Ayla secura and shaak ti (again)
@amysargent4237
@amysargent4237 2 года назад
Doesn't anyone think that Star Wars' in-universe origin story is similar to the in-universe origin story of Halo? Think about it, A Precursor-like race called The Celestials ruled the galaxy before anyone else did, bringing civilization to many worlds, and building many structures, similar to The Megastructures that The Precursors possibly made. Then, another, more evil race (Rakata/Forerunners) usurped them to rule the galaxy as their own, building HUGE Structures (Star Forge/Halo Rings, and other Forerunner Structures) to further rule the galaxy. Then, a disease/plague (The Rakata Plague/The Flood) destroys THEM in return, leaving only their legacy, and creations behind for discovery, and use by future civilizations, and the galaxy in question (eventually) comes to be ruled (essentially) by Humanity. Isn't that more than just coincidence?
@Madmike271
@Madmike271 9 месяцев назад
My guy really out here here pronouncing plague as PLAG LIKE FLAG lol
@tracieramson9151
@tracieramson9151 Год назад
Here is How it should Go... BBY = Before Baby Yoda and ABY = After Baby Yoda
@matthewdavis9966
@matthewdavis9966 2 года назад
No Tho Yor?
@alexgaelsotorodriguez3870
@alexgaelsotorodriguez3870 2 года назад
Goooooooooooooooooooooood
@ianmessiter5564
@ianmessiter5564 2 года назад
Noooooiiiiiiiiiice
@tgifella
@tgifella Год назад
i thought there was a lot more before humans were even in the conversation-
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian 2 года назад
Isn't the guy at 20:07 an Imperial warlord?
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
Nah, that's Roan Fel, though I've always assumed he was made using a similar reference as Ardus Kaine
@gameactual
@gameactual 2 года назад
Eckhart sent me. 😎👍
@ChromisPasqueflowerBowerbird
Skywalker's bloodline really just come to dominate all aspect of society huh. Jedi (Sky, Solo) Sith (Sky, Solo) Bounty Hunter (Sky) Politics (Solo, Fel) Science (Sky)
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 Год назад
No mention of Pius Dea?
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad Год назад
6:33 - 7:03
@MaCabaret
@MaCabaret 29 дней назад
We could have had Darth Caedus but we got Kylo Ren
@thedatatreader
@thedatatreader 2 года назад
I don't get why the Sequel movies didn't take place in the later part of this timeline since both the Fel Empire and Republic were appropriately weakened and the new Imperial Remnant could easily have been what becomes the First Order. They could even have made up whatever off-the-wall forcepowers they wanted and not screwed with existing storylines. Heck, there could be appearances by Luke and his jedi order with his appropriate "hermit" mentality due to losing most of his family to the wars. I just don't get why they felt they had to break the original cast out just to kill them off instead of using them to further the Legends story.
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 2 года назад
To be fair, Lucas was already rebooting the Expanded Universe/Legends via The Clone Wars, for example Grievous always having the cough instead getting it from Mace force crushing his chest on Coruscant. Disney kept that going via adaptation distillation, trying to take what were considered the best parts and leaving out the worst ones. Which makes it all the more ironic the sequel trilogy became an unintenitonal blend of Legacy of the Force, Dark Empire and Jedi Prince. Three of the more divisive stories from Legends.
@JediAcolyte94
@JediAcolyte94 2 года назад
@@johnnygyro2295 Lucas had next to nothing to do with TCW so that is a lie. Filoni ran rough shot over the entire Clone Wars era unchecked.
@thedatatreader
@thedatatreader 2 года назад
@@johnnygyro2295 The Grievous retcon was actually a result of George Lucas not communicating his intentions with Genndy Tartakovsky and forcing him to make his version match the film at the last moment. I highly doubt the Sequels were originally going to have Dark Empire elements in the original plans, but that changed when Rian Johnson took over and added all kinds of things that were then retconned by JJ in The Rise of Skywalker. However, I'm actually saying that before all of their infighting, the writers could have just let parts of the Expanded Universe exist as they were and then build on it with JJ's "new" story of Rey taking on a new Empire with her own brand of rogues and forcepowers. I know, Disney couldn't allow that as they really wanted to make bank on the existing IP (EG the likeness of the cast from the Original Trilogy and the minority of fans who "only take the movies as canon"), but they would have been equally or even more successful if they had just appealed to the many loyal fans who had been following the EU content since the late 80s. Filoni did exactly that, and now he and Favreau are singlehandedly carrying what remains of the license into profit. Imagine what would have happened if JJ and crew had done that too.
@analtubegut66
@analtubegut66 2 года назад
@@johnnygyro2295 - changing a character slightly isn't anything like trashing 30 years of content and replacing it with different characters and stories entirely (outside of bringing back eu characters only to butcher them).
@transgirltalks1140
@transgirltalks1140 7 месяцев назад
So wait...humans exist in star wars? They're not just a species that looks like humans?!
@DBWave94
@DBWave94 3 месяца назад
Uh, yeah. Humans appear in almost every sci-fi universe I can think of.
@DanielA-no9xv
@DanielA-no9xv 11 месяцев назад
Legends is better than Canon I wish that Disney never bought Lucasfilm
@ron1788
@ron1788 Год назад
The Klatooinians and Nikto? Is that legit?
@TempestsFist
@TempestsFist 2 года назад
I feel a lengthy and unnervingly specific summary coming... I got a bad feeling about this.
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 2 года назад
Why a BAD feeling? Would be great
@misterduelog
@misterduelog Год назад
The day will come when someone will buy back the Star Wars brand, destroy the Disney canon and properly reinstate the EU as canon
@glenndeason
@glenndeason 2 года назад
Corey, I love you 😍 .....🤣😂🤣
@glenndeason
@glenndeason 2 года назад
@Joshua Sharwood Oh I can. Probably better than Justin's cat too.
@riverinjun3141
@riverinjun3141 2 года назад
Personally my head canon is that there was two clone wars the first lasted ~15 years against the trade federation (which eventually formed a proto government) and a 2nd war against the separatists who split after some political bs plus the war repercussions pushed on every plant outside the core. (Basically Germany post WW1 same military reduction stuff which left the outer rim to the mercy of pirates) Also humans live close to 150 years with help from “modern medicine” so Anikin and Sheev are close to 140 by the time of ROTJ
@tonywillingham8109
@tonywillingham8109 2 года назад
How did humans get to a far away galaxy long, long ago? And why do all aliens have faces?
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Год назад
Some dude at NASA fired one off in the piss bag and it made it all the way to Coruscant via a rip in space-time. Because it’s easier to anthropomorphize them.
@IamSkyeOrion
@IamSkyeOrion Год назад
Too bad Disney ruined it all.
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 7 месяцев назад
They didn't. The Legends continuity is still around for us to enjoy. Disney can always incorporate elements of Legends in their current canon if they need to. If you don't like the current canon, simply ignore the new stuff and stick to the Legends material.
@micejoint132
@micejoint132 2 года назад
asasdasd
@WCLCooke
@WCLCooke 2 года назад
So the Sequel Trilogy is no longer canon? Normally I would agree because it's so bad, but the whole Star Wars universe started with movies and the movies are the main source for most fans.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
As the title says, this is the Legends timeline.
@WCLCooke
@WCLCooke 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad oh. I didn’t know that was what it meant.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
@@WCLCooke It's basically the old canon, the one that existed before Disney created the new canon to make new movies without restraints. It composes of George Lucas's 6 movies, TCW seasons 1-6 (sevwn is new canon only) and the Exoanded Universe - all canon (in Legends) material built around the movies, books, games, comics etc. The New Canon and Legends share Episodes 1-6 and TCW yet they're totally separate and very different from each other. As you see the events before and after the movies from each continuity have very little in common.
@Hello-bi1pm
@Hello-bi1pm Год назад
@@emzonik8851 both timelines having events that have little in common is honestly just weird. You would have thought adapting popular wars from EU and being like an MCU for EU universe would be more marketable, while they keep printing EU as a separate universe similar to 616 to mine stories from.
@LilNasXLover
@LilNasXLover 2 года назад
You skipped over Darth Maul lol
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
Darth Maul frankly never does anything important on the galactic scale that warrants mentioning in a 20 minute overview.
@LilNasXLover
@LilNasXLover 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad True true!!!
@seanmurphy7011
@seanmurphy7011 Год назад
Everything wrong with the EU in a video.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
*sighs* As much as this is a grand history, it's depressing that almost nothing ever changes in the Star Wars Legends universe; to make matters worse, I don't think Darth Wredd killed a certain number of Sith during his purge, one of them being the wily Darth Talon... guess the Rule of Two (or something close to it) will have to happen again. Also, a darn shame a sizable amount of Legends content is left unfinished (or at least, completed but with some unsolved loose ends): just look at Dawn of the Jedi, Knights of the Old Republic: War, the fates of some of the characters from the Republic, Purge, and Dark Times comics, Jax Pavan's story post-Coruscant Nights, the Imperial Commando saga, and even the Legacy comics... 11:40: ...What giant 3D printer?!? Skipping 12:22-12:42. Not counting The Old Republic for many reasons. 17:10: Sekot is pronounced "Seacoat", according to the Rogue Planet novel. Skipping 17:18-19:38 and some others. The Denning-verse didn't happen, and the events described here... happened differently. (Noticed that the Fate of the Jedi-Crucible era is not mentioned, though. Care to explain that?)
@thedatatreader
@thedatatreader 2 года назад
11:40 The "Giant 3d printer" otherwise known as the Star Forge. It used the material and energy from the star it orbited to replicate entire armies of ships and battle droids. (Spoilers for Kotor I guess)
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 2 года назад
Not counting the Old Republic?
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Yes, I'm not counting that MMO due to not being finished yet and having a lot of story inconsistencies.
@jennifervan75
@jennifervan75 2 года назад
Is this canon lore?
@Banana-Boi
@Banana-Boi 2 года назад
To most people yes but to disney no.
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 2 года назад
@@Banana-Boi lol most peoplre
@DJBV
@DJBV 2 года назад
Star wars legends>>>>>disney star wars
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker 2 года назад
I had no idea there were stories after Luke's family and the Yuzhan Vong War. And I didn't know they were a hundred years after. Also, I was under the impression that the bad time with Anakin Solo and Caidan happened before the Yuzhan Vong War. Interesting
@Falkirion
@Falkirion 2 года назад
Fantastic work Corey. Would love a more detailed breakdown of each era if you have the time. I loved the Legends books and still read them occasionally
@shadowulfhedinn8261
@shadowulfhedinn8261 2 года назад
Now this is world building! This was very cool, Corey
@herodaresfire4512
@herodaresfire4512 2 года назад
Just over nine minutes in, you said 44BBY instead of 4400 BBY. Minor slip of tongue, but then you said Nadd went Alderaan, when it was in fact Onderon.
@hamshankscps1049
@hamshankscps1049 2 года назад
One thing I've always wondered, is how the Hutts initially rose to power. They're essentially just giant slugs, I don't see them as being physically intimidating.
@micahbannister1287
@micahbannister1287 2 года назад
Really hard to kill, even with blasters
@nicholasricardo8443
@nicholasricardo8443 2 года назад
They're resistant to the force naturally, meaning that they have very strong wills and minds.
@victorytothepeople
@victorytothepeople Год назад
and they are huge and can move fast in bursts, thay also have a massive slave force and employ mercs
@ThomasPetermann.
@ThomasPetermann. 2 года назад
great work mate loved the vid its sad that all of this lore got pushed away for the new crappy movies.
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
100 thousand years in 21 minutes based
@bigorange2082
@bigorange2082 2 года назад
This is what made me so angry with Disney erasing all of this. I grew up with this time line for 25 years just to be told by the mouse that it was crap and they could do better. They didn’t. Thank god Disney can’t erase the books and comics. We can still enjoy them.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
Nothing was erased- it's all still as accessible as it ever was and it's even still in print. There's a difference between saying "it's all shot and we can do better" and saying "it's hard to make new movies that have to be fit within 40 years of predetermined stories." Lucasfilm was bought by Disney but it's largely still the same people doing the same things as before the buyout, down to some of the same authors. If it had never been bought and Lucas has made his own sequels it would have been a similar if not the same situation.
@emzonik8851
@emzonik8851 Год назад
@@CoreysDatapad I must agree, however untill like the last year or 2 of his ownership of the franchise, George considered his story, whixh was the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker and the rise and fall of the Galactic Empire, as finished. He was pretty sure there'd be no sequel trilogy, only the Spinoffs, which were in fact in works. His idea for the sequels came with the financial issues, however again, because all those years he hadn't planed to make a sequel trilogy, it wasn't long before he came to the clonclusion that his nest course was to sell it all and retire. So with that in mind, it's no wonder that the EU wasn't designed to incorporate a sequel trilogy. It was possible to adapt it into new movies but as you said, it would've been a lot harder. The best scenario would have been, had George kept Lucasfilm but focused soley on spinoff material and the the sequels never been made (or had Disney chosen not to make episodes 7 - 9, which was pretty unlikely).
@matthewmalovich64
@matthewmalovich64 2 года назад
This makes me excited for the rumored “Old Republic” movie in the works. I love how vast the Star Wars timeline is
@freddygarcia171
@freddygarcia171 2 года назад
Disney will fuck it up
@JCDenton3
@JCDenton3 2 года назад
Sadly it has nothing g to do with any of this. It's set Luke 200 years before episode 1. Also their version of a functioning republic is literally a socialist utopia, so expect a lot of clumsy, heavy handed political and economic preaching from the writers working for the mouse over a solid story.
@The_Borisaurus
@The_Borisaurus 2 года назад
Awesome video, Cory. I love the overall summary of the Legends timeline. I hope you create more videos and put emphasis on how Legends takes a detour from 'canon!' You do a swell job as a Star Wars Historian.
@nuancedhistory
@nuancedhistory 2 года назад
Honestly you glossed over the SWTOR era WAAAAAAAAAAY too much. And how are you gonna talk about the Mandalorian Wars and the fall of Malak and Revan without mentioning the Jedi Covenant, which was a major factor leading to the Jedi Civil War (if not technically its first conflict in some ways). And the glossing over of Legacy too. Not going to mention how Krayt was slain by a Jedi Shadow from the era of the Mandalorian Wars fulfilling a 4000 year old prophecy?
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 2 года назад
So what that I covered do you cut in favour of going into more depth in those eras? The point is to give a broad level overview, and the thing about TOR is it has like 0 implications for how stuff for after it so going into more depth there compared to the emergence of the Sith in the first place doesn't make much sense. You could make the same comment about pretty much any era but the the video easily gets over an hour.
@nuancedhistory
@nuancedhistory 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad I mean I get your point, but SWTOR actually does get kind of impactful. When we're talking material from the very end of the EU (2011-2014) stuff from SWTOR starts to get brought in elsewhere and as the only ongoing part of EU storytelling, it's technically hard to ignore. And when I say "mention" I usually mean one short sentence or phrase, not elaborating on it in-depth.
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 2 года назад
@@CoreysDatapad Basically everything from 17:18 on had no impact either, heck arguably less so than SWTOR and what minor things that did happen were just copy/pastings of better stories. It's just a few minor events that the bulk of the Galaxy barely noticed, excluding Darth Krayt. Caedus went out like a wet fart really only setting some trees on fire and Abeloth only really killed some Sith the Galaxy didn't know were there anyways (really just being a blame shadow war). You nearly spent more time on the Killiks (who again were more a potential threat than a real one) than the Yuuzhan Vong who killed more people than every other war combined. Further Denningverse is arguably just a terrible retconning of Zahn's books (destroying Mara Jade's characterization and the dangers in the Unknown regions Zahn had painstakingly set up) while also ignoring all the character development in NJO. It's a terrible retconning of far better stories, that was terribly executed, utterly mishandled Luke's Jedi Order basically making them nearly Sith themselves. All of Denningverse really deserves to be shuffled into Infinities. After about 2005 to 2008, Legends really stopped caring about continuity, just letting their authors do whatever the heck they wanted. This is Denningverse, SWTOR, and TCW. These stories really shouldn't be part of Legends proper timeline. Yeah, a few authors did care, Zahn obviously connected his books and James Luciano was a continuity superbuff (even he basically had Han in Millennium Falcon basically say for him that he had no idea wtf happened after NJO)... but most other things basically gave continuity the middle finger. At least beyond affecting Kotor 2 and Revan, SWTOR didn't affect much but Denningverse basically threw gasoline on all the prior books and then had its authors all on different pages working against each other. Characters radically shifted motivations and personalities from one book to the next.
@goodmind4940
@goodmind4940 2 года назад
@@jonathanryan9946 hard to care about continuity when Filoni is allowed to do whatever he wants
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 2 года назад
@@goodmind4940 I mentioned TCW as another example of not caring about continuity too... its basically a case of the 3 major things coming out after 2005 not caring about any continuity but their own.
@ArcBing
@ArcBing 2 года назад
No "someguy Luke". Sad, but amazing video! Awesome stuff 🙂
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 11 месяцев назад
Imagine if two years from now George Lucas announces he’ll make a new “Episode VII”, totally ignoring the Disney sh*t, with no “Rey” and with a true Luke! 😊
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 7 месяцев назад
The actors are too old. If he had made them around the same time as the prequels, then it might have worked.
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