10,000 Subscribers without Videos that h onnestly was my thought and I was like "ummm, why didn't they just do that to the death star with a medical frigate costs 1/20 of a star destroyer and if a ship as large as a Star Destroyer can wipe out a fleet what's the point of fleets."
The guard fight scene did something I read question about like back in 2012: “Why doesn’t Jedi during a lightsaber block just turn off the lightsaber and turn it back on in enemy’s face?” AND THEY FUCKING DID IT. FINALLY.
In one of the Swtor cinematic trailers you get to see something similar when one Jedi dual wielded a single hilt and a double-bladed lightsaber at the same time.
Jeje The Human Oh sir incredible adult, since you decided to bless us with your presence, would you do us mere fifth-graders an honor of educating us on your mysteries of having an adult conversation then?
I have a theory that disney intentionally screwed this trilogy as part of a sophisticated marketing technique to gain tons of hype and chatter through outrage. Screwing up releases has become common in games and movies so I’m sure we’ll start catching onto this next generation approach
I liked Rise of Skywalker. Loved TFA. Did not like The Last Jedi. It feels like three different Star Wars groups now. Those that loved the Original Trilogy. Those that appreciated the prequels. Those that didnt mind the Disney Trilogy. For me it makes no nevermind. Live long and prosper, Star Wars die hards. - a simple Trekker 🖖
I love the original trilogy. I appreciate episodes 1 and 2 but they’re just not rewatchable for me. ROTS is almost as good as the original trilogy. I even liked the sequels up until ROS. I felt like ROS contributed nothing to the plot. I hate that they brought back Palpitine. Kylo Ren should have been supreme leader and they needed to come up with a clever way to bring an end to the sequel trilogy.
I don't think that the kid Force user will necessarily play an important role in the future. They just wanted to show that there is hope in the galaxy and that people are waiting to be led into better lives.that's all.
I always thought what if the Vader's childhood was showed before we have met the adult Vader. It would be much more powerful. I am not saying that is the case with that kid but imagine the possibilities.
i feel like such an asshole for saying it but i really dislike her face... but its her character makes me hate her face more. im sure i could find her likable in other films
I cannot stand her character. Weird fan girl character who ruins a possibility to take out a super weapon because “hope”. I groaned any time she was on screen
It's just those dark side guys. They need to change their plan sometimes if they ever wanna get laid. "Let's rule the galaxy together" is just not a good pick up line. Also, why the dark side always want to rule the galaxy? What's so great about it anyway. Kylo doesn't seem to have this child-like joy from dominating others like The Emperor, I think he would be 100 times happier on a lonely island with Rey. Just saying.
So sand in the ass crack is a bigger turn-on than ambition? Ladies, could you please confirm? If so, that explains the Tatooine like barren wasteland that is my love-life. (Note to self: delete line about wanting to establish my own Reich from Tinder profile)
TheSkipRow Gaming Yea. I have to say, Haldo wasn’t necessarily a bad character, but I think it would’ve been much more powerful had they placed Ackbar in charge while Leia was still healing & made him the one to sacrifice himself.
You say that as if they had a choice. What were they suppose to do? Release those kids into the Canto Bite wilderness where they'll starve to death? Or take them along with them into a bloody war zone where they'll probably be obliterated by laser fire? If you haven't noticed, the rebellion don't keep kids around. Leaving those kids where they were was kind of there best option for the time, and I'm sure they planned on rescuing them after the First Order is defeated and the war is over.
@@HOTD108_ good idea. Leave the kids behind, even though there would be a chance they would survive and have a future instead of slavery for the rest of their lives
@@mansifacio5458 bring kids into a warzone vs leave them where they are, where they have food and shelter until the end of the war. Pretty obvious choice.
personally, i think that episode 9 should begin with her funeral, that she dies of natural causes, and the opening scene is sort of a tribute to her. i think that would be the most respectful way to handle it
michael ponder they were never gonna kill her off but now its the only realistic and respectful thing to do. Her living in space wouldve been gone into more deeply if Carrie Fisher didnt pass.
POssibly, but she died before this came out and the film could have been edited to just let her go on screen, vs in a crawl. You literally had the footage to take Leia out in a way that honored Carrie's wishes. I mean, she did not even serve a purpose in the film after her Superman scene. They had Leia flying through space as just some afterthought. It is sloppy and now it is gonna be a shit show trying to handle her character without being able to show her.
he was referring to bringing back Anakin despite everyone in his life telling him that he was gone. I welled up in that moment in the film. Strongly disliked it as a whole though
NarcoticDimension For the star wars lore it's because Luke knew he was going to probably go away, as per reality it's actually Carrie who went first. So there's that impact that we probably won't see Leia anymore, specially when the people behind star wars vowed not to use CGI to bring her back.
I love how you always shout out people who helped you, towards the beginning of the video, and not just put them in the description, at the very bottom, that no one reads. That's good shit, thumbs up to you.
Benicio Del Toro says the most meaningful line in the entire movie - "Finn, let me learn you something, partner. It's all just a big machine. Live free and don't join".
His character PURELY existed in order to say that line, which is the entire problem with the film. There are a lot of people who LOVE the concept of “Grey area”. They think it makes things “mature” and “complex”. It’s sounds great... in idea. But 90% of people who attempt to tell “Grey” stories fail because Grey isn’t ACTUALLY more complex. It’s usually just bland. I could be wrong but I think we’ll see a lot of people who lobbe this film for what they feel like it does symbolically for things they support like diversity, feminism, animal rights, etc. but in the end, I think it will age poorly as people realize that there’s not a tua;ly anybody to care about or root for in this film. I’ve already seen people talking about how great this movie is going to “for the kids!” Because of the social agenda it promotes, but I’m like “what kid is going to want to sit through this ultra-long, tedious, boring film?” The Grey area stuff is going to bore kids more than it bored me. Who is the villain of this film? Kylo Ren? Nope. He’s just bad because Luke failed him and then outright refused to try to make it right. So is Luke the bad guy? Nope. Yoda doesn’t think so and neither should we, apparently. He was just following the dogma of the Jedi Order and their boring and apparently misguided teachings about The Force. So The Jedi need to go away says Luke and Yoda. Except then Luke says The Jedi are just beginning. What? It’s not more interesting because it’s Grey. It’s just muddy, tedious, and too unfocused for something that’s pure fiction and doesn’t actually matter.
JazGalaxy I don't think this one was "feminist." I had that thought about the Force Awakens after I saw it for the first time, and before hearing any reviews or anyone talking about it. This one does have the animal cruelty stuff, but I don't think that's necessarily bad. People are going to hate on that aspect of the Last Jedi because it was shoehorned in. I guess some people might get upset that diverse characters were also thrown in without any consideration for the tone or pacing, but once again, that's really more of a problem with the writing than with the idea of diversity overall. 8 isn't nearly as bad as 7 in that respect.
I wouldn't be surprised if, with Carrie Fisher's passing as well with how the TLJ ended, they actually do another time skip for Episode IX, though not 30 years; maybe something like 10. It would give a reason for why Leia wouldn't be there (they could say that Leia simply died of age or illness, but not before becoming another legend or something), how the Resistance could rebuild their numbers and military forces with new allies and their renewed vigor to keep fighting, and allow Rey and Ben to get more of a footing in their new positions as the last Jedi (who might try to succeed where Luke failed) and new Supreme Leader respectively.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he die where the bridge was bombed causing all officers and Leia sucked into the vacuum of space? Before Admiral Holdo was to assume leadership the lady announce that all officers except Leia,who is in critical condition but stable, have died.
Chris, I respect you, but I disagree with you on this one. Yes, this movie is unexpected, in the worst possible way, they cut off all interesting plot points in the movie. Who’s snoke? We don’t know. Why did kylo kill those students? We don’t know? Why is Rey so powerful? We don’t know. How can leiah use the force with no training when JJ specifically said that she had none? We don’t know. Why did kylo join snoke in the first place if he hated him? We don’t know. Why did Luke lose all hope because his student turned, but he didn’t lose hope when he fought literally the most powerful and evil being In the galaxy? We don’t know. We expected answers and we never got any, your misrepresenting lazy writing with it being unexpected. If that’s the case, i can shit on a poster board and hand it in for an art project, and i will deflect all criticism by saying its unexpected. You are completely wrong about Poe, btw. If he listened to Leia, and pulled out, everybody would be dead. He sacrificed a few bombers for the safety of the entire resistance. Also, there is now reason for Haldo to keep the plan away from Poe. If she truly thought he was a fly boy, keeping an “arrogant and hot headed” person like him in the dark is the worst possible solution. If she thought there was a spy on board, that would t have mattered because she revealed it to everyone when she started fueling the transports. A spy would be able to relay that message back to the first order in no time. That was just a classic plot hole.
So many ppl are like I cannot believe Luke tryed to kill Kylo. If you actually watch the movie that’s not at all what happens. Luke himself admits that he had a moment of darkness and ignited his saber and almost immediately regretted it and never did anything. Also it was pretty well established that Kylo was already turned to the dark side by Snoke by this point went batshit crazy and massacred almost the entire jedi academy Anakin-style and thought he even killed Luke or left him for dead. What do ppl not understand about how that would change Luke. How could anyone still be the same person after something like that. I mean com-on, Obi-wan literally dismembered Anakin and left him for dead burning to death in a lake of lava for god sakes because he turned to the dark-side. I don’t think what Luke did was unlike him at all when you really think about it.
Not one word of what you said is true Beth B. We are given two perspectives of the same event and you have decided that only one perspective is correct when in fact, both are.
This is my argument to "Luke killing young Kylo is butchering the character": FIrst off, if you met 14 years old Hitler and knew what atrocities he would execute in the future, you bet your ass you'd at least be tempted to kill the boy. Secondly, wtf why do they think Luke is some kind of perfect all round saint? In the originals there were at least two or three times he fell to the dark side. He struck down an "unarmed(of course Palpatine was armed with his force lightning but Luke didn't know that)" old man with intent to kill just because he was taunted to do so. He struck his own father out of pure rage, almost killing him in the process. It was only the Palaptine's premature taunting "DO IT" that snapped Luke out of it and saved him from falling down to the dark side. Luke is not Jesus Christ; he is highly emotional character and almost fails A LOT. Third, it's called a fucking character arc. In the originals his arc was a journey from young whiny boy to a jedi. In the sequal series, it's his transformation from a failed teacher to a true jedi master. It's what makes him human, and not emotionless godlike character.
Varys// I also wish they flashed out more of Kylo's initial fall, and I'm assuming they are planning to make some spin off series like tv series or books on that background story (mmm money money money). But to play the devil's advocate here, it was demonstrated time and again that a force user can detect another force user from far far away, so I don't have hard time accepting Snoke could find young Kylo easily. And Kylo felt he was abandoned by his parents when he was sent to Luke's jedi training ground, and it's not entirely uncommon for kids of that young age who were sent away from home to places like boarding school or whatever to have that rage-like feeling towards the parents and the people around them. But yeah, we could've used more background information on.....you know, Snoke. It was classic fan theory bait.
When Rose rams Fin out of the way, she should have taken his place in sacrificing herself and destroying the cannon. It would have better explained the small hole from the massive cannon, being interrupted mid fire, and it would have been a better conclusion to her and her sister's story.
All i can say is Rose, while is a great addition to the saga, actually is a expendable character. I agree with your idea, I'll give the movie a much better ending and a perfect end to Rose's storyline
I think it serves a better purpose to show the fans that Fin and Rey's mutual feeling for each other is a strong and powerful friendship and not a romance. that we are reading way too far into Fin and Rey's relationship. In episode 8, for an entire movie, we are given zero evidence to support a love interest in either Rey's character for Fin or in Fin's Character for Rey. This is analagous to Harry Potter's relationship with Hermoine in the Harry potter novels.
I thought that'd be a good place on 2nd viewing and decided to ride it out and wound up loving that whole sequence, it's a welcome adventure sandwiched between some very dramatic scenes.
Hmm yeah didn't think about the political aspect of that idea haha. Even still though, I just wish there had been a more fitting way for his character to go out other than: "Oh by the way everyone on the bridge execpt for the princess is dead and that includes Akbar." ya know?
-Rose: My sister is dead because she faught for the rebellion cause and you, Finn we're our hero, but now you are trying to escape and I hate you. -Finn: Now I am going to save the rebellion by sacrificing myself. -Rose: Nooooo! I won't let you save what me and my dead sister have been fighting for! Instead I will risk both of our lives and everyone else's because I love you now!
First I don't think she ever hated him. She was just disappointed at what he was doing but she didn't understand he wasn't a coward, he was trying to save Rey. And the "love" she had for him is misunderstood - it's an admiration type of love, not boyfriend/girlfriend love. A lot of people are shitting WAYYY too hard on this movie.
The last of his kind I see what you're saying. But why put your (Rose), life at risk to stop somebody from saving your whole team? Because you "love" Finn, even though it is misplaced? It makes me hate you, (Rose) as a character. This movie was all over the place for me. When ANYBODY died in this movie, I didn't give a shit. Because the movie made everyone too easy to hate. Like Chewbacca. He didn't say anything and I was annoyed by him.... This movie doesn't deserve a pass, just because it is StarWars. 5.5/10
The pacing could have been better for sure. The Rose/Finn thing was just kind of "mehh" at best but I didn't hate it. I'm glad Finn didn't die. Rose sacrificed herself (in my opinion) because she felt that Finn was way more important to the Resistance than she was. (But the more I think about it, is he?) Guess it all remains to be seen.
Harry The Sailor that is because Hucks is a shitty poorly implemented character. And bringing up how he made each scene he was in crappy and tore away any facade of strength the first order gave off would mean maybe his review isnt quite right.
I was totally psyched to see Yoda return, only to have his character completely changed for comic relief. He was the Grand Master of the Jedi Order and one of the stauches defenders of the Jedi Code. And now he's like: "Well all those books passed down over many generations of Jedi, which I have stuck to for almost my entire over 900 year long life are basically all shit and Rey, who has neither been trained nor read any of the lore is just more powerful than the compiled knowledge of the Jedi Order?! Fuck that!
Fabian Fischer have you not seen the originals? Yoda always had that wide funny humor, he was smacking r2d2 with a stick over a flashlight and sandwich
Jazzy Jeff Of course I've seen them, but Yoda just wants to test Luke's patience and see if he has what it takes to become a Jedi. Once Luke finds out that he is actually Yoda he gets much more serious.
Is it just me who really wanted Kylo and Ray to join sides. And have a ying and yang dynamic, a balance between the dark side and the light. And for the Jedi and Sith to end ?
Yeah, I'd have loved it, if they had a dynamic like Professor X and Magneto. Trying to achieve the same thing in different ways, but no..... it has to be good vs bad. No mixed forms.
Yes! i wanted it so bad. Kylo's ideas about leaving the past behind, that trying to follow the darkside or the lightside only isn't working that they should be striving for balance, is good but his methods are not of course. But i secretly wished she would have taken his hand in that thrown room.
It would have been interesting, also did anyone at all feel sexual tension between kylo and Rey because I didn't, but my friends are convinced that they felt it. Can anyone confirm this and explain where and why?
Did you see that Rey took the books, and Yoda KNEW IT. Saying there was nothing in the tree she did not already have with her. You see them at the end when Finn grabs a blanket from a drawer in the Falcon
"There's nothing in those books that she does not already possess" I totally wrote it off and then when I saw them in the drawer I remembered he said that. Yoda you sly devil.
Carolina Herrera After Rey left on the Falcon, I thought he would raise up his X-wing near the end. Didn't think he would use Force projection (if that is what it is called).
Adam Driver was absolutely fantastic. I dont go to a see a Star Wars movie for great acting, but Drivers performance was incredibly intense and believable. The bad guy as a damaged, narcissistic te, needy teenager. Also loved the design of this film, the use of the colour red, the golden stormtrooper suit, the dingy interirors vs battle scenes in the daylight. The CGI creatures were all interesting to look at. The Last Jedi is B+ for me.
The most heartfelt part of this whole film for me was when Luke looked out into the sun from his island and you notice there's another sun rising up behind the clouds. In the New Hope, Luke would look out into the two sun and the vast beyond in Tatooine before he began his journey and adventure with Obi-Wan Kenobi. That last moment before Luke disappeared really nailed it for me. Tears.
Love that moment too but I wasn't sad at Luke's death. I was actually feeling the same way Rey must have felt when she realised Luke had died coz I saw what an amazing and complete life he lived he completed his purpose and looked at the twin suns realising how and where his journey started and how far he has come
im assuming that because he separated himself from the force he wouldnt want anything to do with it, as seen when he tosses anakin's over his shoulde. Who knows, maybe rey will go back to the temple and find it in the rubble.
still another movie. This most invalid arguement against the movie is it didnt answer questions and thats because its the middle movie. Its not suppose to answer them.
I honestly thought Laura Dern's character was the worst. How do you avoid a mutiny? Let your men know the plan so they don't panic and think you've failed as an admiral. Like what reason did she have to hide the plan from Po? he even said it was a good plan once he found out what it was. IF SHE JUST TOLD HIM, finn wouldn't have recruited the traitor code breaker, the code breaker wouldn't have told them about the unarmed transport ships and the rebellion would not be 12 people. All of that happened because she thought he was so much of a hot head that he couldn't even bear to hear her plan.
Colloid yeah but at the end of the day, She was the general and Poe’s job is just to follow orders. The plan was on a need-to-know basis and Poe really didn’t need to know.
Colloid I agree that she should have told everyone the plan and that that was stupid and cost a lot of lives. However, for a different perspective I think story wise, she and the writers were trying to teach him to wait, be patient and not be so gung-ho about "blowing things up" and being rash. It's still dumb but I can sort of see what they were going for, if you only believe in the sun when you see it, you won't make it through the night and all that jazz. It was supposed to be a learning lesson, but that probably wasn't the best time for a lesson when things were so goddamn dire.
I agree, I think her arrogance cost the rebellion enormously, but I think that was intentionally supposed to be the moral of the story: don't be arrogant and elitist and secretive, don't completely turn your back on one of your best pilots who risked their life for you just because they didn't exactly fall in line and obey every single order like a mindless zombie. This idea meshes well with how they characterized the champagne drinkers on Canto Bight as the worst people in the galaxy, as well as the general theme of portraying complex characters with their flaws and strengths. She made a selfless act in the end by choosing to be the one who stays behind, but part of that decision might've been that she was at least subconsciously punishing herself for her previous behavior.
@Nikolai Belinski Why can't people just come to peace with each other, some people think the movie is good, some think it's bad, simple. You "true Star Wars fans" (whatever that's supposed to mean) always think you are superior to all other SW fans, you're not. You keep trying your hardest to convince the new audience that the sequels are shit just so you can complain even more about Disney. If you are worried that Star Wars will die, don't worry, even if the sequels were successful, SW would have died anyway. It is A FACT.
i think the BEST emotional pace in this film people forget to mention is how Emotional Chewie is after Han died and how luke just keeps Rey outside the door knocking "Go away leave me alone!" and Chewie KNOCKS the fucking door down "LOOK MAN WE NEED YOU!" "Chewie!?" "Hans DEAD! HELP US!" "O SHIT!"
Pretty sure the little kid at the end isn't a setup for the future, but more of a symbol of how There will always be people willing to fight the good fight, and also could be a nod to Rey supposedly coming from nothing
Just about every movie in cinema history has its' respective "take a pee break" moment. For "The Last Jedi", it's the entire "Canto Bight" scene! You could go out for a four-course dinner during that, and not miss anything!
@@Yoda-wf6bu Finn’s character arc happened in The Force Awakens. Canto Bight has fuck-all going on in terms of his character since his development in that portion is completely washed away by the whole “not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love” scene, where his developed character has a chance to actually do something with that development, only for Rose to fly in at the last minute and basically say he was fine where he was at the beginning of the movie, since that’s exactly what Finn was trying to do at the beginning of the movie: save the person he loved, Rey (not romantically, at least according to RoS, they have, or at least had, legitimate chemistry and friendship). At the end of the movie, Finn has become more invested in the larger conflict at play and sees a chance to save a cause he now holds as being something he is willing to die for. Only for Rose to stop him and send him back to where he was at the beginning of the movie. So Finn never had an arc in this movie.
@@thegrapethief5514 so you just explained his arc in TLJ, lol. Imagine thinking a character has to die for his arc to be complete, or whatever. Rose saved him just as he wanted to save Rey, or everyone else for that matter. Tell me you wouldn't do the same. Tell me you'd watch a friend of yours risk their life for something that might not work at all. Finn's mere thought of sacrificing himself for the whole Resistance completes his arc.
@@i-deni-i5138 “Rose saved him just as he wanted to save Rey” that’s the point I’m making. That’s where Finn was at the beginning of the movie. He lacked much investment in the larger conflict at hand and solely cared about saving his friends. Which is essentially what Rose tells him to do at the end of the movie since his action at the end wasn’t completing his arc because he was going to die, it was completing his arc because he was now invested in the conflict and was willing to sacrifice in order to protect the cause. Rian didn’t even have to set up Finn dying, he could have just put his life in serious danger to protect the Resistance and it would have gotten his growth across. But no, Rose swoops in at the last minute and tells Finn that sacrificing himself to protect a cause he believes in is stupid because he needs to be a leader or “save what he loves” (EVEN THOUGH THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO. God this movie is so fucking stupid and that scene in particular is hilariously ironic considering Rose’s actions directly caused lots of people to die and reduced the surviving Resistance to an even smaller number.) even though the movie earlier painted Admiral Holdo’s thing as extremely heroic and great. Again, Rian didn’t need to set up Finn sacrificing himself. But he jabaits us because that’s the only thing he’s truly fantastic at: ass pulls that come out of nowhere and completely wasting any setup because having a payoff to something you set up is “predictable” in his eyes. Finn had an arc in this movie. But Rose’s dumbass line sends him right back to where he was at the start of the movie. Don’t believe me? Then maybe consider reading John Boyega’s interview where he talks about how he was treated in the sequel trilogy, and let me tell you that he does not have nice things to say about how he felt Finn was used in The Last Jedi. Then again you TLJ fans don’t seem to care what the actors think because of course only the writers could possibly have good ideas on what to do with characters and what they’re like.
I was so waiting for Lando to show up at the end and save the resistance. Is there like a Star Wars rule somewhere that there can only be one black character?
one of my favorite lines early on is that when kylo see rey in the connection scenes he says "your not here the effort would kill you." and on a second or third watching this explains lukes death
At the scene where the Rebel ship hyperspeeds through Snokes ship, it was quiet and all of the sudden some guy in the theater said “That’s so fucking cool” and everyone just died laughing
It's unfortunate that Finn got the "Bilbo" treatment in this movie after having an interesting character arc in the past film. I'm honestly trying to think of a reason why he was even in the movie. He accomplished nothing of value for the story. Not just the Canto Bight subplot, but pretty much his entire character's involvement in the plot could have been cut out and nothing would be missing in the story.
samzilla567 And when he is about to destroy the weapon, that will expose and destroy the resistance (and finally do something meaningful), he's then blasted out of the way by Rose......
I assumed it was to set him up for ep. 9 as a real resistance hero. Since at the end of 7, he was still doing what he was doing for Rey, and still continually wanted to run away. I took this as his arc to really understand why he should care about fighting the first order, and why he should stop being a coward. Not just for one person (as in Ep7), but for everyone, even people he doesn't know and never will. He also finally was able to actually take down one of his fears (Phasma) which has probably given him the confidence to believe that HE can make a difference. That HE can truly overcome his problems HIMSELF and not only when people (Rey, Chewie, Solo) are around to help him.
It's nice for a change to see a review that isn't all nerd rage and hating on the movie. I agree, the movie gets a lot of undeserved trolling and vitriol. I liked the unexpected and the action sequences. I also agree that the casino planet was a head-scratcher. It wasn't a perfect movie but it was good.
This should not be the way how to make these movies. Abrams & johnson should have written the trilogie together, maybe with the help of lucas & kasdan. It's not a good idea to have a different writer for each movie of such an important trilogie.
AlvarHanso84 Same thing could be said for the MCU but most of their movies have been very good so I don't see why they should not do the same for Star Wars.
somerandomname Marvel has like 10 different movies in production, its impossible to get all its writers together, even then there is no reason to connect the Ant-man branch to Black Panther to gotg, the franchise can afford inconsistency, While Starwars which only gets yearly movies but only the odd number of years are connected, should not be getting different writers, if they mean to have a whole trilogy that is interconected they should have all the creative team to collaborate together their plans for the franchise
Jesus E Soltero exactly. They completely dismissed plot points they opened up in the force awakens. Either they forgot, or this writer wanted to go a different direction. There’s going to be a different writer for episode 9 too
I agree with nihil but not in the way he thinks. Rey is a mary sue so she can beat anything even though she should be a piss weak. Kylo is apart of feminist disney so he will be a weak baby compared to everyone. Isnt it great how mary sue is the strongest can beat kylo and kylo can beat luke rofl what a joke these movies are.
I loved this movie for betraying my expectations. Killing of Snoke was unexpected, and at first i was kinda let down by the fact, but then it grew on me: this will allow Kylo Ren to become a greater villain, and the trilogy shall go into a new direction, since there's no Palpatine paralel anymore. Luke's death: i do not get why people get mad over this. He became one with the force, willingly, thus becoming even more powerful, in the words of Obi Wan Kenobi in episode IV: "If you strike me down i shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine". Also, he saw a binary sunset before merging with the force: his journey started with a binary sunset, and ended the same way, this made me tear up, it's like he visited his home, before passing away. Rey being the daughter of nobody: i loved this. The force it's not bound to bloodlines or heritage, which is a theme related to the ending of the movie: The spark that will bring the first order down it's on the inside of the weak, the abandoned and the orphan. The force awakened, not only on Kylo or Rey, but across the galaxy, in many places. The force is not for Jedi or Sith, for it binds the universe together and it's inside every living thing.
omg thank goodness there are fans such as you who TRULY understand what the force really represents.I think people are WAY too caught up on thinking the force is only exclusive to Jedi or Sith.Henceforth there are no sith because as the prophecy states,anakin destroyed the Sith and brought balance.Kylo is the representation of the other side,yin and yang.Lol it makes me think of how Goku gathers his power for the spirit bomb a bit.
I kinda wish there was a little backstory though before killing of snoke, he seems very powerful and we haven't really seen his true strength, I agree for they trying to make kylo ren a greater villain and became a true villain for later episode 9.
Spoiler below I think the reason Luke passed on was to not give Kylo the satisfaction of killing him. He appears before him, builds up the possibility of killing him, reveals his illusion, and disappears. On top of that, he officially passed on so that Kylo would never *ever* have the satisfaction of actually meeting and killing him. Btw did you notice that during that entire fight sequence, Luke didn’t swing his lightsaber at Kylo even once? Imo that’s the most Jedi thing I’ve ever seen.
That's what should have been Yoda during Attack of the Clones!! This was badass af. Also, I believe Luke "died" because he had fulfilled his purpose, much like Yoda in Jedi. I also hope he appears as a force ghost in Episode IX
luke will be back. he didnt truly die. he said they will meet again and did you notice how yoda's ghost didnt just talk. he used the force and actually hit luke. they could bring darth vader back that way., which would be silly, but hes awsome so i wouldnt object.
Snokes character screamed wasted potential. Heavily scared, powerful force user, witnessed the rise and fall of the galactic empire. Yet we learn absolutely nothing about him in The Last Jedi. Andy Serkis killed it in the few scenes he had though. The most disappointing aspect to me.
I think that’s Johnson’s point. That would have been obvious. They didn’t want this film to be safe, they wanted it to be original and I think snokes death really drove that in
Thane Krios They had a perfectly good vehicle to show Snoke's character with the force bond between Rey and Kylo. We could have got flashbacks of how he manipulated Ben, but all we got was Luke trying to kill him because he sensed the evil.
Anuj Jain What would have been obvious? A back story or some sought of character development? Thats not asking for much. They could have handled him better, considering JJ set him up in TFA. Still think he should've had a bigger role and end up dying in the 3rd film.
I never cared about snoke or was intrigued by the mystery. Personally, I was glad he was killed off so quickly because of how uninterested in him I was. But I can see where you're coming from
Tureta PB lmfao, possibly the funniest line in GotG2. Would have worked great. Definently would have improved this train wreck Johnson and Disney created.
Question to everyone who hates the plot of Last Jedi revolving around running out of fuel. People complain it was a cheap plot point, because there has never been fuel mentioned before. Qui-Gon tells Queen Amidala that they are going to Tatooine to REFUEL and get supplies. Ryan Johnson, JJ Abrams, Disney, Kathleen Kennedy had nothing to do with The Phantom Menace. That was all George Lucas.
@@stupididiot6993 I saw that/see that all over the internet. More so than most other more legitimate problems. It is why I mentioned it. It is the only reason it was mentioned. Otherwise I would not have said anything about it. It was a tripe and ridiculous issue, because it was there before. Only in passing, and damn easy to miss....but it was there already. It actually was a point of contention when Episode I came out. Fuel.
Good review, but you missed a key plot point. It’s subtext really, but it will be very Important in the next film. When Rey went into the crystal cave she was confronted with darkness and used it without being tempted to turn dark. If you know your Jedi lore you’ll know about Grey Jedi. They live in perfect balance, operating in both the light and the dark. They believe there is only the force, not simply light and dark. After Rey left the cave she had a costume change, which was grey...subtle...but obvious if you know what you’re looking for. I think that’s what Luke dying was about too, he really was the last Jedi, traditionally speaking. The grey Jedi will come next. Which implies that Rey will kill Kylo or he will turn, the Sith will have no place if the Jedi go grey.
Faith H. I'm gunna have to look closely on the next viewing because I did not see her outfit turn grey. I felt it was more of a lighting thing. But good theory.
+Faith H. There must always be this one gray jedi fanboy who doesnt realize that they didnt accomplish anything of note through the enitre star wars timeline.
That's a good point. Also, Kylo has shed the traditional master/apprentice concept and indeed the Sith itself. In that way he and Rey are similar. They're both completely disenchanted with the old ways of the Jedi and even the Force.
The Grey Jedi may be a thing outside the movies and I'm all in for that but since Lucas said everything outside of the films isn't canon... sadly there won't be a Grey Jedi here.
This wasn't a bad movie, but it was far from great. It had amazing moments like the Rey/Ren vs guards scene and the Admiral crashing into the ship, but what they did with Finn in this film was just unacceptable to me. They developed him into such a great character in the first film, then in this one he is sidelined and used only to make some love triangle noone seems to care about. Rose's entire purpose in this film was to be the other love interest, and I feel that if they left her out, they could have done something better developing Finn's character as well as Phasma, who was once again very irrelevant in this film.
Quinones I wouldn't say finn was a great character in the first one. if he had sacrificed himself that would've been a powerful moment. Yes the finn-rose storyline didn't work. but i don't know what else they could have have done with him.
it was just too many scenes in the movie that made me say wtf to really enjoy it. it was a wtf moment every 20 minutes. I may have to watch it again but for now.. 5/10
I agree, force awakens is a way smoother movie, last jedi is sloppy. But I love the last jedi more because it was so different. I think a lot of the flaws of last jedi are a result of rian johnson taking a lot of chances, whereas force awakens was very safe. And I think that risk taking attitude elevates the movie so much
Force is the better structured movie by far. But Jedi's brings way more to the new story, it basically paved the way for a completely fresh saga. If they had cut some stuff, this would had been an amazing flick.
I'm sure Chris is 100% fine with the dislikes, it shows how divided the SW fan base is right now and it's not really an attack on him, just his opinions on this one film.
Tdog Reviews no it’s just because Chris doesn’t make sense and always changes what he says every single time. He said The Last Jedi is better than Revenge of the Sith
And yes, that Luke death scene was painfully emotional! You may think it's lame, but the force theme and the two suns combined with the scene itself was very beautiful
I pretty much agree with everything he said about the movie. For me the only thing that really held it back was the whole casino thing, besides that I thought it was the best one and I grew up with and loved the original trilogy. There was a lot of sweet moments that you never seen coming. They really went for it and took a lot of chances, for the most part I felt they paid off.
That rose character got under my skin she felt so forced. Finn was one of my favorite characters in VII so to see him spend almost all of his screen time with the worst character in these two films almost ruined the film for me, and when they kissed it felt more forced than any kiss I've ever seen in film.
totally agree that was the biggest flaw with this film. it would have been fine if she had a smaller part but to actually be flying these jets when she's pretty much a fucking electrician, and have so much screen time. I just endured it patiently...for the next scene to come
I thought the best chemistry was between Rey and Kylo. And Rose was unbelievably annoying. She played a caricature of the short chubby asian girl stereotype, very flattering.
I might be alone in this but I found Rose Tico's actress to be pretty shallow and sortof annoying. Honestly the actress that played her heroic sister was more emotive and dramatic in the 2 minutes she was in the film, versus the hour or more that Rose's actress bopped around doing not much at all dramatically. Heh maybe they should have swapped actresses and let the one who sacrificed herself to destroy the Dreadnought be the real Rose.
Actually I hadn't considered that but you're right, Rose Tico is kinda.. I dunno? Mushy looking? Maybe it's her hair. But yeah they could have also gotten some more sex appeal out of the other actress. Edit: I just realized they are in a trap when it comes to Rey. They can't cast another actress in a major role that competes in attractiveness; else she might steal the show.
..i liked the casino scene and the animal cruelty aspect,,it taps more into rose's character, and why she hates that place..and introduces us to that boy who has the force
Honestly I gotta agree with Stuckmann, the whole Casino diversion to collect the code slicer turncoat should have been just Rose and Finn infiltrating the command ship on their own. If they needed a payoff with a set of force sensitive kids or something then the kids could have been encountered on the command ship, perhaps a prisoner or slave inadvertently set free when the ship gets taken out.
rose is fugly as hell, in fact all the woman in this movie are awkward looking, even rey looked like she put on some chub not that it matters but it took me awhile to realize something was off looking at her
The whole idea of endlessly chasing a ship was just rediculous. They had a FLEET of ships. So just jump 3 cruisers ahead a little bit. End of the rebellion right there. Or 200 fighters etc etc. When the script is SO STUPID it is just one big annoyance.
I hated the kiss. It felt really trite. I agree that I think he wants it from Rey, not Rose. I didn’t feel that Rose ever really felt something for Fin either. I like be Rey and Kylo. I hope they can somehow come together to be the balance, to use light and dark but not be overcome by either. Their conversations I felt were riveting. I’m hoping in 9 that she can show Kylo what happened in his hit with Luke, how Luke felt and that he changed his mind, but it was too late. Some of the jokes felt out of place. I loved how Luke dust the dirt off, but it also felt too much from our world and not something that would have happened there. Overall I still enjoyed it and can’t wait to see it again to get a better feel for it. I also wish it had been Leia that sacrificed herself. That would have been fitting I think for her character. And maybe Luke had projected himself there to be with her in the end. I think he could have died next film since he’ll likely return as a force ghost anyway.
Lauren Wagstaff Well they were planning to have Leia in the 9th film. It’s easy to say that now that she’s gone and to wish that they were able to give a proper onscreen end to her character. :(
Alex I mean, Vader eventually died (sure he was kinda redeemed), Emperor died, Maul died, Snoke died. For me, having Ben die isn’t exciting. His character wouldn’t really have an arc, he’d just be he baddie. Having Rey turn would have been interesting. Having Ben ALMOST turn was interesting. Having them come together to start something new is something I’d like to see explored. The bad guy dying is very Disney. Maybe Rey dies next episode and that hanged Kylo. That would also be interesting. But if you want him to get his comeuppance, that’s ok. It’s just not what I would want to see happen.
Matt V oh I know. With things as they are, I just think it would be a nice way to tie things up instead of a reel at the beginning of 9 saying ‘well, time passed and she’s dead’.
Am I the only one who's upset that admiral akbar is dead?!? I almost cried when the lady said the leaders died and they explicitly said he was dead😢 RIP Akbar he was a great squid alien man and leader may the force be with him
Italian Turtle i agree, i only sometimes miss the fastness of swordfighting from the prequels, where anakin would move so fast against droids and stuff. Besides that, amazing movie
Italian Turtle they should’ve teamed up and done something different in this franchise for a change but of course you gotta have the obvious good and evil. I wanted more of that scene.
Andrew Joseph Fabo I honestly think them teaming up would be too predictable, and they are doing something more than just good and evil. Multiple times in the film, characters reference how the war between good and evil is never-ending and that in the end, no one side is truly one or the other. So, When Kylo tells Rey that he wants to burn it all down and restart, he's not entirely wrong. The empire will always come back in some unless there is no rebellion in some way. The question is not who is good or who is evil, but rather how do we stop this war? There are no easy answers In the film, and that's why I can't wait for episode IX. For the first time in a long time, I don't know what happens next in Star Wars
I just watched this movie again last night. It's a lot better than I remember. The internet made it very easy to hate this movie. I think what they do with Kylo and Palpatine in Episode IX will make up for his double-down on the darkside. If he rejects the emperor puppetry unlike Anakin, that'll be a great character arc.
I remember walking out of the cinema before any audience reactions and was feeling 100% sure everybody is gonna love it, cause I had time of my live. Then I looked at rottentomatoes, then reddit, then youtube to hear how much of an abomination is this movie. Lot of people had expectations that it's bad even before they saw it.
Stfu, you both don’t know how to see movies. Rian Johnson created a mess. Even Mark Hamil( OG Luke Actor ) agrees that this movie sucks. Rian Johnson( Director of Last Jedi ) roasts the fans in the internet. He has no respect towards anyone. Rose is the worst character ever. Characters were bland
Saki Nikaido and he is only speaking half of the truth. In the interviews, mark hamill said at first he didn’t like it UNTIL rian explain it to him, then he agreed with his direction.
Martin Palmers everyone uses marks statements on the last Jedi but conveniently forgets that he admitted that he shouldn’t have made his creative differences public, and ended up liking how Luke’s story went once the movie was finished
Poe’s arc is interesting as you said but it is useless as she just could have explained him her plan from the start to avoid the mutiny. And there was no reason to hide the plan!!
lestat1886 Consider this. The First Order was able to track them through hyperspace. Something that they thought was impossible. One would consider two possibilities. One is that the First Order is utilizing a new form of technology to track them( as it turned out, they were). Possibility two is, there was a traitor in the Resistance that sold them out. In that case you would keep your plans as secretive as possible, even from Poe, who, by the way, has recently been captured by the First Order and brought back a former storm trooper, claiming he was now on the resistances side. I would be keeping secrets too.
I'll be purely honest. When Rose 'saved' Finn from sacrificing himself to save the Resistance and give one last middle finger to the First Order, I literally shouted out "Oh FUCK YOU!" Such a perfect and character-defining moment ruined because "i wuv you gimme kissies"
Plus how the hell did she even make it? they were driving the same thing and one would assume that finn was on max speed? Like Chris I have a lot of problems with the entire Finn/Rose subplot but everything else is absolute gold.
Kinda felt like the writers were about to finish the story and then were like "Wait fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck there's no romance arc and nobody kissed! Hollywood isn't going to accept this"
From what I saw, Finn's mindset at that moment was not about saving his friends. It was all about not letting the First Order win, the very thing he was determined to get away from.
I was completely fine with Finn dying in that scene. His motivation made sense and he had made up his mind. He was determined to stop the First Order at the cost of his life, and it felt like a proper way to end his character arc. But no, they had to fuck it up and have Rose do some stupid shit.
Rico I completely agree. Rose's actions pissed me off to no end seeing as she could've totally fucked over the resistance by refusing to let someone sacrifice themselves.
man the last jedi was so good people blame disney not having a plan but all jj had to do was be a good writer and tie up was set up in this one like rian did for the The Force Awakens because he actually cared
Having Snoke's backstory in a comic or book doesn't cut it for me. A good franchise should allow one to simply watch the movies without having to do research to understand it.
Honestly if they didn’t want Finn to die then I feel Rose should’ve like shot a missile in the machine or something more badass then pushing him out of the way.
I love how this movie managed to polarize its fanbase. Like it or not, you can't accuse this movie of being a formulaic fan-service cashgrab. It took huge risks.
An Atheist's Opinion Rey is fucking OP and she is a nobody which makes me more mad because she's OP af. I think the knights of Ren is just thrown away cause they were not mentioned.
Dandandan Le that’s the whole theme of the film. Anyone can have the force, they don’t have to be a Skywalker or related to someone we know like obi wan. Anakin was a slave boy on tattooine, as much of a nobody as Rey is.
The movie does have the unexpected but there is too much of it. There are so many unexpected things that you just become used to them. When I saw Finn racing towards that canon I was thinking "Wonder what is going to happend now because he ain't going to die." I had a feeling that something else would happend and there it was, or she was I guess, Rose. The unexpected became the expected in this movie. The reason Luke felt as if he had failed Kylo was just out of character. Sure, after Kylo goes dark side Luke could have done like Yoda but why does Kylo do what he does? Because Luke actually entertained the thought of killing Ben Solo, his own nephew just because of some dark thoughts even though he decades before that wanted to save Darth Vader who was considered one of the most evil people in the galaxy. Some one who would give himself up to the empire, risking himself on the chance that he might be able to save his father from the dark side, a father he never met, not the real Anakin anyway, and such a dark person that Vaders own mentor believes him to be lost. Both Yoda and Kenobi didn't think Vader could be saved and they were Luke's mentors, they taught him everything he knew about being a jedi at the time so why wouldn't Luke believe that Ben could be saved? Makes no sense. I wonder how you can sit there and say that the Poe story in this was good. Did Disney pay you? With one sentence, admiral Holdo could change the entire movie. If Poe had known about her plan he would have accepted it but she chooses not to tell him because... reasons. One argument is that she is worried about a spy and that is why the First Order could track them but Finn allready know why they are being tracked so no spy, and even if there was a spy, evacuating the ship like they do would nothing to save them then, the spy would somehow give their location over to the First Order and the First Order would blast them and the same thing would happend again even without Finn and Roses useless story. If Poe was told the plan then he, Finn and Rose would never come up with the plan of going after the codebreaker and therefore never be caught, never meet the second codebreaker and never be betrayed in the end. Oh and Phasma would be alive so that she could maybe be of use in episode 9 so that Disney actually got a reason to sell the Phasma toys.
....reasons..... the horrid SJW through line of the entire film. The force awakens, while it had it's flaws, opened up a fantastic storyline that could've had so much potential only to be blown in the name of pounding real life political beliefs down our throats. Horrid. Luke Skywalker was a fracking hero until this movie, we watched a glorious character ark get obliterated with horrible ideas, again in the name of real life virtue signaling. Ok.. we get it.. the patriarchy!! I am woman!! Animals have feelings!! Gross. We don't need to be reminded of real life issues in a fantasy movie. That should've been your critique, Chris. Respectfully
Idk if youll get this, but god I agree with everything you said. I swear Holdo had just read the script and new thats what needed to happen to further the plot and sell canto bright toys.
Also Holdo not telling Poe was right. In the real military superior officers don't always tell their plans to subordinates, especially one that was just demoted for defying orders and getting a lot of people killed.
So you want him to be naked too? Cause his clothes certainly were never alive. The ghosts are projections of the Jedi. That's why Anakin doesn't look all mangled, even with the original Anakin force ghost. He came back as his younger, healthier self. They make them look how they want to look. If Yoda wants a cane he can have a god damn cane.
21:00 One of the themes of the movie is what it really means to be a hero: 1) FINN wants to sacrifice himself, but ROSE knows it's not necessary... and she was right. The heroes are able to escape at the end. 2) POE thinks that HOLDO is too focused on rules and that it's better to think with the heart... but HOLDO ends up being the real hero of the two. 3) LUKE tells REY that jedis have been glorified. That in reality they're flawed people. That actually makes sense when you watch the prequels. They don't always make good decisions. One might argue that they indirectly caused ANAKIN's fall.
Initially, I did not like this movie, even when I saw it a second time in theaters. However, I watched it a year later and I hated it less. I just rewatched it again almost a year after I last watched it and I now actually really like the movie. I understand why people do not like this movie but if you re-watch it, trust me, you'll hate it less.
04navi I rewatched it and skipped all the Finn and rose crap every time it came on. and it made the whole movie ten times better the only other thing that really really aggravated me was snokes death and the fact that they never really did anything with the character.
04navi When I first saw it I felt the same way.. watched it last night and I can’t believe how amazing the story is. For me my favorite concept was how Luke realized that the Jedi were ignorant and that’s why they were wiped out. Luke is above the Jedi he is not an assassin, he is the symbol of hope (hence why he apologizes to Kylo) I feel like us fans we were all just so disappointed because our theories were all wrong. One of my fav sw movies.
@@jradjj2988 What should they have done with him. He was always just a Palpatine 2.0. boorriinnnggg. Instead he had an actual purpose, his purpose as a part of Kylo's story. The far more interesting character. Why waste time on Snoke when you can focus on Ren? Snoke wasn't useless, and he wasn't pointless. He served his function as an obstacle for Kylo, as a test, as manipulator and an abuser. That's his purpose.
