We’ve been Boondocking for a year now with Starlink. We are typically out of cell range. The whole priority thing is a non-issue. We get faster speeds without priority than we do back at home with priority. It’s a population density or capacity issue. Thanks for the video.
Excellent video and explanation. I think you did a better job than Starlink could have done. For me it’s still to expensive & too many changes to often. As you stated it’s obvious they’re still trying to figure things out. I’m not interested in being a beta tester for Starlink so I’ll wait til the dust settles on this one.
I feel especially screwed. I purchased the $2500 dish specifically for "in motion use". Now I've got to pay $2 per GB on top of the plan to use it while driving? We have a Pepwave router with dual 5g and Starlink, and I drive while my friends do work online in my 9 seat van.
Thanks for the update. We used Starlink last summer and were very happy campers. At the end of the summer we switched to the RV package which allowed us to pause the service. Going to be interesting to see how changes will impact our travels this summer. Don't like the price increase, but Starlink is hard to beat!
Great update, Jason. I have the residential/portability plan now and plan to keep it for the next month or so. We're vacationing in OR, MT and WY this summer and I'll be working a few days in each location, and I don't want to risk anything. We're retiring next year, though, so Internet connectivity won't be as important. Great idea about having a backup ethernet cable. Thank you, sir!
Thanks for keeping us informed on the frequent changes, confusing options and seemingly at-will price hikes. This company and its marketing managers are either the poorest planners to ever role out a product OR the highest order of money grubbing evil geniuses. Drug dealers could use Starlink as a market study. It’s like crack for Internet addicts.
There seems to be market "adaptation" all the way, but I agree they need to think through the changes and not let Elon Musk's mood swings control every aspect. In Europe, we have mostly decent broadband at a price mirroring the competition, plus we have government-sponsoring rural fiber and 4G or 5G has good coverage. Therefore Starlink is low priced compared to the U.S. It is really hard for SpaceX to give customers in the U.S. the bandwidths of the future. If they get the new big Starlink sats up with Starship, they still will get way more customers and then they will be stuck with 100Mbit or so for a long time.
I see fiber optic cables being installed in the most rural environments you can imagine in the USA and my home state of Wisconsin. I have yet to see any speed or connectivity benefit from this given our country road had it installed 8 years ago to the sub stations only. No direct connections to residences. Individual homes still use the copper phone lines installed 35 years ago by the phone company . There is no other internet choice besides satellite from Hughes Net or Cell Towers which are 5 miles away. Perhaps they are just keeping up with demand as the market size has increased. Funny story: They ran fiber optic cable down one side of our road 8 years ago. The following year another contractor was running fiber optic down the other side. He had no idea someone else had run cable on the other side the year before. Makes you wonder. Especially since I’m 3 miles outside of a town of 2800 people and 8 miles to the next town the other direction. Typical connection speed for me working from home is 5 upload 40 download during week. Starting Fridays or durning holidays it drops due to all the vacation homes firing up their Netflix.
Great update! To your point, a backup cable is smart. I had a squirrel chew my cable during a presentation. Thankfully I had a spare. Have you used Starlink in Alaska?
way too expensive for what it does, there have to be better options, heck I am in the Philippines, it is 6 dollars for 40 gigs, and can be used in the states . Starlink here is 150 to 200 dollars and it does not work when it rains and solar flares which is almost every day, some say no worries, but I sent mine back and support for Starlink is horrible absolutely horrible sorry to tell it like it is but not worth it
Thanks for the info. I am a full timer seeking remote work but secure internet access and connections is blocking my opportunities 😩I will research star link further 😉
When you say "uses significantly more power" it would be very helpful if you could provide specifics. For instance if we're talking about a difference of 60 watts per hour, which is standard for the standard antenna, versus 600 watts for the upgraded model then that would be significant.
The antenna is double the size and it uses about double the power.. It's hard to give exact numbers, because starlink only publishes the max power, which is a lot more than normal.
Thanks for all this information. We did an update in Jan or Feb and found a 'Sleep Mode' setting. Was really difficult to cancel thay function. We now have a bluetooth electric outlet ($20 home depot) to remotely turn on/off. Also, pausing service was easy, activation was more time consuming searching how to cancel pause! Glad to know it worked great in Baja.
I am a DIY tech I initially purchased the RV basic or standard hardware system before going on a cross-country trip. I read lots about Starlink and tried it around town for about 3 months. Just before leaving on our trip I learned about the new High-Performance system and really liked the idea of being online while driving and on the move. I installed it and tried it and really liked it, and was torn to keep both systems in case I ended up under trees where I could not connect. We left on May 15th and we had excellent Internet from LA to Arizona which was amazing! I did end up at an RV spot in Sedona where I was under trees and it internet was very spotty and marginal. I wished I brought my standard portable dish that I could set out away from our RV... Better luck next time, afterall, if you live and work on the road, it all comes down to convenience, time saved, and saftey! right? Thank you for your update, it was informative.
I don't know I am still torn between Starlink and Nomad Internet😁. I find it amazing that the Nomad site is still up and looks to still be taking orders. Regardless, another great video and amazing information. I have been using Starlink since February and have had zero issues.
Thank man! Been up to my eyeballs in spreadsheets trying to figure out a viable and reliable option for interenet while working remote full time. Gonna end up with starlink and mobile hotspot this go around. I mean worst case is i go to KOA and pray they got speed.
Jason, great explanation of all the options. Kinda like bait and switch. I bought the high performance dish because we are on the move a lot, and in area’s with no cell coverage. So far it’s worked great. Now they, decide to charge for in-motion to the folks that paid the exorbitant price for the high performance dish! I guess if I want to pay an additional $100/ mo, a 66% price increase I could still have in-motion. Not going to do it, Starlink has already scammed me out of enough money.
I have Starlink RV and love it, but I'm telling you Starlink is going to keep screwing around with their plans and is going to get SMACKED with a class action lawsuit if they don't stop it. Especially with having people buy $2500 dishes with the possibility of using it mobile etc or even just the regular RV plans buying equipment and then afterwards charging more and lowering the service contract after you've already bought the equipment. They really better be careful and stop this crap.
Thanks. Cannot see that we will ever use Starlink. Just do not need access to the internet that badly to pay the prices they want & keep changing. BUT, I can see why you and others would LOVE the service.
Awesome and thorough?! Glad I didn’t upgrade automatically to the $2000 upgrade. Oh I just realized you didn’t mention that you can pause your RV service one month at a time.
Great video. Wow the costs…. One question, I’ve seen on offer up where there are what I’ll call a reseller or someone who got it as a gift. Have you heard where they (starlink) will control, shut off, your equipment if you didn’t by directly from them? Or are you aware of maybe. Counterfeit equipment, Chinese have done on apple products! Many tks. Any input. We plan on using it for our stationary rv in northern colorado for a couple months per year.
Thank you Jason for giving this information on how Starlink works and their plans. I just wanted to know if you only camp in weekends or summer camp how does it work for residential plan and then for while on the road or sometime camper? If you need to pay a lot extra. I heard no complaints of anybody using it that I know of. Great job Jason with this video. Thank you so much!
Wow. I guess I got lucky. I ordered the standard one and got it in a week. It's expensive but still cheaper than the crappy satellite joke service I had. I could only get about 30 Mbps with Viasat, but it's now 866 Mbps with Starlink. I'm happy so far.
I've had Starlink since near the end of Beta and I've only had a few outages and they were over 2 years ago, have not had one in a long time. I have the old round dish but my speeds are normally pretty good and I have some obstruction from trees, not uncommon here in Washington. Someday we plan to take out the 4 trees that are a problem, not just for Starlink but our front yard as well, but not sure when that will happen. Right now my speed is 89/11
Great video - thank you for this information. I recently read an article that said the Starlink dishes were about to be changed for better reception and reduced size. Have you heard anything about this?
They have filed with the FCC to test smaller dish models. No specific timeline yet. One of the line drawings was an antenna about the size of a sheet of paper.
Another RV-er here. Just got our dish, yes not having a live person to talk to is annoying to say the least. Otherwise 5 stars. speeds over 100 most of the time. Game changer.
I’d say the prices are getting a little ridiculous. We will be full time RVrs within the year and plan on boondocking most of the time. Might Be rethinking our options
Trust me I agree. I preordered back in Feb 2021 the first week it was able to preorder. I waited 1.5 years before getting my dish and they actually increased the price from 500 to 600 before I even got mine, they charged me 550 since I preordered already. 8 months later they increased my rate from $100 to $120.. bullshit. I assume they will keep bumping the price over the years and I'll end up switching to Verizon 5g when it's available in my area. $120+ a month for Internet is ridiculous
@@randybobandy9828 price is not an issue star link is actually one the cheapest options for decent wifi most compainies charge more then that besides low end bs wifi. But the wait is ridiculous if I could get any other option I would
Thank you very much for doing this video. I guess one thing I'm not quite sure about. I'm interested in priority for my RV. I will probably not be interested in using it while our RV is in physical motion though. I'm interested in using starling when I get some place but not while we are driving. Can you make any recommendations on which device (Starling Hardware) and which starling plan would be best for me? Yes I'm going to be attending zoom meetings and streaming data. Thanks in advance.
I would just get the basic plan and basic dish and try it out. It will probably be enough for you, but you'll want a back up cell plan for when there are trees. You can always upgrade the plan if you think you need premium data. But most people don't need it.
just got the cheaper mobile roam and cheaper dish, should work well for me. I dont need internet while on the move, but I would prefer a fast setup, so trying to think of something now. Cant do on roof since my full roof is covered by solar panels, but I think I can make something on the front
If an order the mobile or roam plan do you know if I can immediately pause the service without loosing a month service cost? Wanted to order now and start it in Dec. I live in Canada and I’m not aware of any reseller
Crazy challenging for me to make a decision. I live semi-rurally in NW Montana, i.e. there is fiber optic on my road but via CenturyLink. I parted company with CL about 15 years ago and use MiFi hot spots and now a Cradlepoint Cellular router. Verizon is my provider. I have a motorhome as well but now travelling only in the Pacific Northwest. I am a self employed custom software developer so I do require Zoom capable internet. So far my Verizon MIFI/Cradlepoint/Phone hotspot devices are more than adequate. But, I keep looking at Starlink Mobile whatever ... even though semi-retired, I hope to stay active in IT: personal interest and keeping my brain active! Bottomline, thank you for the info - very helpful to me!
Great video and superb explanation. Did your IP change when using Starlink Roam in Mexico? When you browsed Google or used a streaming site, were you getting US content, or did it change to MX content? I ask as I need a US IP address to connect to work, so I'm wondering if this might be an option when traveling across countries. I know for mobile hotspots your traffic gets tunneled to your home country, show a US IP address in this case. Thanks!
Starlink is basically the system for those in rural permanent areas and for those people like rv youtubers or others like them. For most people not so much as long as those cost stay the same. Its basically a niche service at this point. Great well done informative video.
Unfortunately, there are still plenty of areas where the best available internet is really crappy DSL, even in non-rural areas, thanks to telecom and cable monopolies. Starlink is better than that.
We received an email just a couple days ago that our residential plan WITH portability is grandfathered indefinitely. We also received another email stating that we would not be deprioritized if/when over 1 TB of data is used.
Thank you for the info. It is so confusing lol. I am a full-time overlander and I usually only stay in the middle of nowhere. As of right now I'm in Northern Arizona wondering around and have had good cell phone data to search the web. In January I will be starting my journey down to Argentina . After watching your video I'm still confused on what plan I can get that is unlimited. I know I'm not getting the flat panel because like now I have trees everywhere. What is your recommendation for me if you one? Great video thank you. Just like cell phone plans in the 90s the price for starlink will start to come down over time. I am also subscribing to your channel. Thanks.
Hi Great video, really useful. Do you have any information on latency for intercontinental connections while using the mobile plan? I'm mostly interested on Europe to South America connections but any info would help
Great video, well done. We have the same plan as you all and agree with the performance. We would not be able to live our lifestyle without it. It was so painful when we started.
Have u seen the country? Nothing drops in prices anymore. Everything just keeps going up as our salaries stay the same. Cruel world these corrupt rich bastards have turned the world into. USA is turning into Venezuela
What about upload speeds? Is the speed greater than 5mbps with the more expensive plan? We're full-time in our 40' class A and have a weekly broadcast. It's hard to do with less than 10mbps. Thus, we currently rely on our 5G T-Mobile device and only use Starlink for download. The upload is really bad...
It's faster, but your issue with Starlink for livestreams or other real-time communication isn't as much the upload speed as it is jitter and latency. Those things are challenging for satellite internet. We have found we can do livestreams just fine if we have a very clear view of the sky, but not without drops otherwise.
I love this video it explained all of the questions that I had in my head except for one. If I get the standard service and it's 90 or $120 a month how long it's that price good for?
@@RVMiles yeah that's what I was worried about cuz people that are on limited budgets have to plan for what they're spending and this is already pretty pricey. And if you invest that kind of money into equipment you don't want the price going up 10 or $20 every 2 or 3 months. Thank you for your quick response I really did enjoy your video.
😂 In 13:33 you are using a stock video from a friend of mine who owns this Cafe (the video was shot in Koh Phangan Thailand) - First i was very confused 😅 😂
Once Starlink offers a complete 12v DC mobile setup, I’ll buy in. Most computer drives and routers are internally converted to less than 12v DC anyway so it’s just stupid that RV’ers must run a generator, inverter system, or have shore power to use the current system.
Question? What if you have the old standard and would like to use it on occasionall camping trips. (We did this last year and would just switch to portability in the month we were gone and then switch back). Do I have to switch to mobile? And can I switch back to my grandfathered plan?
You have to either switch to mobile, or change your address to a place near where you are camping for the time you will be there. But it's not guaranteed you will be able to switch back. If you turned portability off already, you can not turn it back on.
WINEGUARD has now become a retailer for starlink and you can go through them for customer service needs...... i was locked out of my account for 4 months with no response from starlink..... wineguard was able to get into my account and reset it .....
Your billing cycle starts 14 days after your Starlink kit is shipped. It doesn't matter when you start using it or when you activate it. You get billed 14 days after the kit ships, and then on that date each month.
Question - I bought a Dishy last summer and have not yet activated it or installed. I just received an upgrade discount offer from Starlink to get the high performance for $600 off. Do you know if it would work to upgrade using this offer AND also keep the first unit going on another plan (sell it to someone)? Thanks!
You could, and you can transfer the old dish to someone else. It's important to note that you do have to get the mobile premium plan for that offer, so the plan is pricier, too.
Starlink has generated significant interest and excitement in the tech and internet connectivity communities. Its promise of providing high-speed internet access to remote and underserved areas is seen as a potential game-changer, especially for regions with limited access to traditional broadband options.
Nice video! Today is May 14 and the changes you mentioned are still not on the website. I went on the site and tried to purchase the high performance dish with the standard mobility $150 a month plan for my trailer. I don't need in motion but I want the better performance antenna. It appears that is not possible, I can't get the antenna without paying $250 per month. Is there any way around this? I haven't found ANYONE posting about this new limitation unless I'm missing something...
I'm also interested in the answer to this one. I have not been able to find any information out there that confirms you can use the regular high performance equipment (the version on a post) with the standard $150/month plan. It's only possible to purchase the flat high performance dish (roof-mount) with the Roam option, and then only for the in-motion $250/month plan. I'd be curious where RV Miles got their information about this. He did mention the new plans are not available on the website yet, so it could just be a matter of time before this particular configuration of options becomes available. Not currently available, as of May 25th, 2023.
@@RyanBuhr13 I've asked the question on 3 different forums and... crickets! Its probably more complicated because Starlink has chosen to not have an actual ability to ask them a simple question like this. I guess I'll find out soon because I bought a High Performance yesterday for my partial view, treed property. I'm mainly going to use it for my Airstream on a stop and start basis so if I'm "stuck" with the $250 price I can live with it for a month... I guess!
It’s astonishing we don’t have consistent, strong, cheap internet everywhere on the globe by now. I would disbelieve the argument the technology isn’t here yet to do that.
I am a new person to the service. before I will purchase this is it possible to connect my android from verizon to the modem to make phone calls . as i am in the mountains alot without cell service.
Do not buy Starlink. My Service was down for three months. The problem was with their settings in house, and they could not correct it. They also continued to bill me for the months they could not provide service. They are even continuing to bill me, even thought I sent my equipment back to them weeks ago. --- Fair Warning: If your Starlink service goes down, you may be in for one helluva ride. All in all, I paid Starlink over $1400 dollars and I received service for only about 4 months.
How many satellites do they have in orbit? How long have they been up there? Are they operating within a good frequency range? The prices do sound very high. Have they talked to the FCC if they are experiencing any issues? It does sound fast. It does sound like a lot of data.
I was glad to have the service for my travels out west as I stayed in many places with no cell service that I wouldnt have otherwise. I jumped ship though when they raised the price to $150. It was too much, especially since I started at $99/month and a round dish. I don't need internet access that badly.
Pricing is out of this world still. I’d be ok with slower speeds 5-100 mbps for an really affordable plan. I don’t need gigabit wireless…. I need a connection in a rural area or as a backup to fiber.
Monthly. When you hit pause, it starts with your next billing cycle. Whenever you unpause, it starts back up and your billing cycle now starts on that day.
@@RVMiles when you pause, what happens to the remaining days in the billing cycle? does it essentially let you use starlink one day at a time, or is it one month at time?