STARSHIP TROOPERS (1997) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | I have no words...

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This week we're finishing the Verhoeven trilogy with STARSHIP TROOPRERS. This one was...interesting to say the least! Comment below, where does Starship Troopers stack up for you?
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@rodc7 6 месяцев назад

The actress whose character accidentally shot the big blonde guy in boot camp, started to date and eventually marry the actor that played the guy she shot. What a great conversation starter for telling people how you met your spouse!

@StarkRG 6 месяцев назад

"How'd you two meet?" "I accidentally shot him in the head."

@MGower4465 6 месяцев назад

"How I Shot Your Father", next fall on NBC.

@lolyungmulaBABY 6 месяцев назад

@@MGower4465starring Alec Baldwin

@irktog5175 6 месяцев назад

Yes, it's a meet shoot.

@seanodonnell8001 6 месяцев назад

Daddy, how did you know mommy was the one? Well, she blew my mind when we first met.

@charlize1253 6 месяцев назад

Verhoeven has said in interviews that too many people missed the social satire about corporate fascism in "Robocop" and took the message seriously, so he made the satire so over-the-top in this movie that he thought nobody would miss it. But a lot of people still missed it

@kissmy_butt1302 6 месяцев назад

People miss that it really is a 'What if the Nazis won' type of world. The heroes are from Argentina. You have to serve to be a 'citizen'. The bugs are the 'mindless' Communists. The uniforms and 'sky' marshals. The propaganda, draconian punishments, etc.....

@willcool713 6 месяцев назад

Totally, @kissmy_butt1302 , and the source material hasn't aged well. Heinlein had an authoritarian streak that he mixed with libertarianism, and he went a little far with that rhetoric sometimes, especially as an intellectual elitist and misogynist. This script comes from a YA novel, and not satire, yet was largely the same in tone. It's a real slam on one of the supposed Grand Masters of the genre. I think Verhoeven pulled it off, but it also plays for those people who just like a good action flick -- probably to satisfy the studio's desire for something to sequel. So people still miss all the social commentary. And the sequels are just action, no commentary.

@gkdaniels1 6 месяцев назад

It didn’t hurt that he completely butchered the book. Robert Heinen wrote specifically about the opposite of VanHalen’s message In this movie.

@matticus1980 6 месяцев назад

That so many people missed the message is a grand pre-internet example of Poe's Law.

@cottonysensation3723 6 месяцев назад

Yeah man’s read like one chapter of the book and said fuck it. It’s also come out that it’s because he didn’t care about the book at all. Originally the movie was gonna be called bug hunt at outpost 9 because that’s the movie he wanted to make but no one wanted to fund it. Some one suggested to him to pretend he is making starship troopers because Heinlein has a huge following and was more likely to be made, which was true. He basically took the original movie he had planned and then tossed a thin veneer of starship troopers on top and it really shows. Still love the hell out of the movie though

@Andreaskentorp 6 месяцев назад

"Me calling it stupid is actually the point" - YES!! It's hilariously campy and awesome. Fantastic movie.

@SuddenReal 6 месяцев назад

You come for the satire, you stay for the camp.

@charlize1253 6 месяцев назад

@erauprcwa 6 месяцев назад

@@charlize1253 Hate saying it, but he showed a mirror to the public and they still missed the mark.

@scratchpenny 6 месяцев назад

@@erauprcwa It's because many people would prefer that type of world. They don't see fascism as a bad thing.

@Sal-gh1se 6 месяцев назад

@@scratchpenny Yep, we’re actually watching it play out in real time. And so many seem to be fine with it.

@jamesraykenney 6 месяцев назад

In the book, Rico meets the recruiter with no legs walking with prosthetic legs that can not be distinguished from real legs later on that day, and when he asks him about it he is told, that they picked him to do that, to discourage people from enlisting that aren't absolutely sure about it.

@lukeball4937 6 месяцев назад

If Verhoven had bothered to follow the storylines in the book, he could’ve created something classic. Instead we get this trash because he sees anybody in the military as the bad guys from the 30s, while completely forgetting that it took even tougher good guys to get rid of those particular bad guys.

@BlueEyedSexyPants 6 месяцев назад

@@lukeball4937This future is literally a future where people like those bad guys won. It's not just the military in this world, their entire society is based on the ideals of the people who took over 1930s Germany. Everyone in the military in this movie is the bad guys because they are literally the bad guys. Verhoven took a book which was vaguely sympathetic to those ideas and made a cracking satire that takes the piss out of fascists and their stupid ideas of valorizing strength and toughness as if it's the highest virtue.

@HistoritorJimaldus 6 месяцев назад

@@lukeball4937 but the military in the movie aren’t fighting fascists, they’re the tools of fascists

@thescrambler692 6 месяцев назад

@@HistoritorJimaldus Fascists, in what way?

@douglascampbell9809 6 месяцев назад

Oh how I wish someone would remake Starship Troopers and follow the book.

@mbpoblet 6 месяцев назад

According to Verhoeven himself, some of the cast said they'd only get naked for the shower scene if Verhoeven and the cinematographer did the same... so they did. (Also, this wasn't Verhoeven's first mixed-shower sequence, there's also one in Robocop... but almost no one seemed to notice, so, again in his own words, he decided he'd make sure they noticed this one.)

@ytucharliesierra 5 месяцев назад

That's so typical Dutch!

@axelfoley133 5 месяцев назад

The shower scene actually sets up a tragedy. None of the characters that declare their hopes and dreams that service can enable for them accomplish them in any meaningful way. Dizzy wanted Rico, but dies the day after she has him. Rico joined because of Carmen, but she breaks up with him. Ace wanted to be an officer, but accepts his fate as just a grunt and declines promotion. The black woman that wanted to get into politics drops out, the farmer gets killed in training, the writer gets killed in the first invasion, the woman that wants babies runs from the front line and also gets killed. The only ones that survive are the ones that get fully absorbed into the war machine and give up on any personal goals for themselves. Rico just ends up parroting his teacher for most of the 2nd half of the movie, or being manipulated by Carl.

@illengustavo9364 6 месяцев назад

"Can I be honest with you guys, they did a bad job of making me care" A few moments later... "Nonononono NOT HER! Movie kills of ma favorite character are you f*ckin serious this is bs" 😂😂😂

@drlee2 6 месяцев назад

Was thinking the same thing! lol

@bemasaberwyn55 5 месяцев назад

Said EVERY reactor EVER 😂😂 famous last words

@sntxrrr 6 месяцев назад

The movie got an Oscar for the bug SFX (first movie to use swarm behaviour in computer animation) but the model shots were also outstanding. This was the last big space sci-fi movie to not use CGI for the spacecraft.

@igamez51 5 месяцев назад

I was active duty in the Marines when this came out. We all loved it!

@megiloth3634 5 месяцев назад

I was in the Marines 1989-1993...oohrahh! I think it's movies like this where a director attempts to portray any sort of military service or war as fascist, bad, and mean. But much like Full Metal Jacket, where I think Kubrick tried to take it a little left leaning, anti-war...every Marine I know loves Full Metal Jacket. As portrayed in this movie, I honestly do think think there is a difference between those willing to serve, and those could never hack it in the military. It's a different mindset we have of serving our country that most people don't have the balls to do. Or you could be like my wife and go the easy route, join the Air Force!! HA

@lordbastich 4 месяца назад

HAHAHAHAHA

@ArlindoBuriti 3 месяца назад

because is a movie about militarism... the director did not undestand... lets all be real, did not even readed the book to know this...

@ericv7720 2 месяца назад

Same here! 92-98!

@christophermitchell6307 6 месяцев назад

As well as Michael ironside being in Starship Troopers and total recall and both directed by Paul verhoeven, Actor Marshall Bell who played general Owen (hiding in the cupboard) in this, was also in total recall playing the character kuato.

@jimballard1186 6 месяцев назад

Awesome! I never caught that!

@506thLittleberry 6 месяцев назад

The officer in charge of boot camp was also one of the mutants in Total Recall.

@jean-jacquesgoebel5088 3 месяца назад

Dean Norris - Hank Schrader from "Breaking Bad"

@MRxMADHATTER 6 месяцев назад

I love it. It was supposed to be satire. But it appealed so much to the group it was supposed to satire that it backfired. "Red Dawn" is exactly like this. It was supposed to be satire but it had the opposite effect. One of my cult favorites. I saw it first release.

@MikeB12800 6 месяцев назад

Uh…. What??? How is Red Dawn a satire?

@MRxMADHATTER 6 месяцев назад

@@MikeB12800 It was intended to be a rediculous satire. The cast played it a little bit different though. It was supposed to smash the spirit of America. But Jimmy Carter had already accomplished that.

@domg6041 5 месяцев назад

@@MRxMADHATTER You have no clue what you are talking about. Starship Troopers, at best, is a failed satire of a failed understanding of fascism, and Red Dawn points out the futility of American invasion. John Milius and his daughter are very much conservatives; Amanda Milius is an outspoken Trump supporter.

@ArlindoBuriti 3 месяца назад

Red dawn is satire? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk bro communism is not even real xD. it was supposed to be satire but how are you going to satire something you did not even read?

@66RainySuper 6 месяцев назад

Casper Van Dien made a pretty good career doing B movies and lots of them!

@margaretcorleoneblues 4 месяца назад

And his daughter was on the most recent season of stranger things!

@elethio 6 месяцев назад

I came for the spaceships, stayed for the gore, and I applaud the writer for his commentary on humanity too. This is top tier sci-fi storytelling. For me, this film is golden. The relationships and characters are not central to the plot. They're not the point of this story. They''re simply props. Tools to help tell you whats going on with humanity in this world. Just like the military newsflashes are too.

@charlize1253 6 месяцев назад

At 9:26 In the TV commercials, they'll televise the execution of a convicted human, but they censor a bug eating a cow.

@TheAbstruseOne 6 месяцев назад

This is based on a popular sci-fi novel Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein that was incredibly influential in sci-fi and more or less codified the genre of military sci-fi. This was the first popular story to include things like space marines and power armor. Most of the concepts in this movie are present in the novel except they're played 110% dead straight. Some stuff got simplified, like you didn't earn your franchise just through military service but through any public service so anyone had the ability to do so (for example, you could get assigned to road crews or filing work if you weren't physically capable of joining the military). But most of the rest is spot on including the classroom discussion at the start of the film which was almost word-for-word. Heinlein and Verhoeven had very different experiences with WWII and it shows in their different approaches to the story. Heinlein was a communications officer for the Navy who had already let military service when the war started and attempted to re-enlist but was denied due to health problems. Verhoeven was a child in occupied Holland and saw the effects of the war during the initial invasion and the occupation by the Germans first-hand. A lot of what Heinlein wrote as patriotic, Verhoeven read as fascist. And it shows in the movie. Going to what you said about whether or not the Bugs were the aggressors...that's a popular fan theory. An asteroid coming from Klendathu space would've had to travel light years to get to Earth let alone make sure to hit the planet and hit a landmass rather than the ocean and hit a major population center. The likelihood of that working as described is next to impossible. So it's far more likely that it was an inside job, giving humanity a common enemy to rally against and a target to invade. That's not the case in the book as it's more two expansionist governments colonizing more and more of space sharing borders and fighting. But the first chapter of the book is Rico describing a mission where the Mobile Infantry is sent for a surgical strike against another species of alien called "The Skinnies" in order to pressure them into breaking their neutrality and joining the fight against the bugs. Not sure at all how Vorhoeven read them as fascists...

@cottonysensation3723 6 месяцев назад

Verhoeven never fully read the book, he read the beginning of it and got sick of it and since his movie wasn’t really intended to be about starship troopers he didn’t particularly car. Originally the movie was supposed to be called bug hunt at outpost 9 but he couldn’t get it funded. Some one in his circle suggested they name it starship troopers and convince people they were making a movie about Heinlein’s book and use his popularity to get funding. So that’s what he did, he just needed enough starship troopers slapped onto his original project to be able to name it after the book. It’s why the movie and book have so little to do with one another.

@judasgoat1035 6 месяцев назад

libs dont read they don't even watch movies apparently they just steal cuts from other youtube channels and comment

@HawkwindAus 6 месяцев назад

Heinlein's novel was one of the first to feature power armour, but space marines had been around before that - Doc Smith had space marines in his Lensman series, which pre-dated Starship Troopers.

@wesleyrodgers886 6 месяцев назад

Avoided his books because of his political stance. Terrible person.

@SpearM3064 5 месяцев назад

@@wesleyrodgers886 Actually, he was a libertarian...

@peregrinne 6 месяцев назад

You mentioned grades being public, and co-ed showers. It is an aspect of the movie I never see talked about, perhaps because the nudity distracts people. They are some of a number of scenes that indicate that privacy does not exist in their society, and there is no expectation of privacy. Rico viewing carmen‘s vid messages in the barracks surrounded by his squad is another example of it.

@murrygondwana7260 6 месяцев назад

It is a way to have society self-monitor. Teachers don't need to hound the students about their grades. They let peer pressure do that. Everyone watches everyone else.

@NathanS__ 6 месяцев назад

I think the public grades thing is a retroactive reading of it. I think it's really just what was expected what "future technology" would be, especially cinematic technology. I've seen people say this is a take on the US war in Afghanistan despite happening before the War.

@Bonko78 6 месяцев назад

That's very interesting point. The no-privacy is a very collectivist element of that political system. But collectivism is not normally something we associate with the right-wing at all (conservatives are typically individualists and the extreme right-wing often promote a hierarchical society). I never read the book but maybe it's one of the elements of this movie that are not from the book but from the scriptwriter's own interpretation of this society.

@AuspexAO 6 месяцев назад

@@Bonko78 You're close, but not quite there. Conservative is just another word for "traditionalist". Extreme right wing people tend to value societies where everyone follows social norms and punish those who deviate from them. They can accomplish this with surveillance. Surveillance is one of those things that crosses the line between right and left. Everyone who runs an extreme society wants a way to keep track of their citizens. Collectivism can get confusing because a clergyman who gives all for Mother Church is definitely a collectivist in that he puts the group above himself, but it's not the "workers should have agency over their own labor" stuff that most people would attribute to the word. I think it's best to avoid collectivism when talking about America and just use "traditionalist vs progressive" as the main focus of the politics.

@BDogg2023 6 месяцев назад

@@Bonko78You’re kidding, right? Conservatives are individualists? Naw, dog…conformity is the rule of law in conservatism.

@Caroline_Tyler 6 месяцев назад

And now, the balance to these three films.......Showgirls!!! :D

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 6 месяцев назад

Lol, yes!🤣

@lordofchaosinc.261 6 месяцев назад

My favorite horror movie.

@thegingergyrl455 6 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@TheCrazyCanuck420 6 месяцев назад

RU-vid will love it 😂

@AlleyKatPr0 6 месяцев назад

The lighting was the very subtle element often overlooked, in that, the lighting was 100% EVEN lighting, 'like as if it was shot for television or more, like it was lit for a propaganda video recruitment film. Y'see? They went to every length possible to NOT make the lighting cinematic, but more like a tv soap opera, which I think we would all agree matched the melodramatic story-lines :)

@Splurr 6 месяцев назад

Clancy Brown is a great actor. He is in Higlander and The Shawshank Redemption.

@CxOrillion 6 месяцев назад

You mean Mr. Krabs himself? Of course he is lol

@rickardroach9075 6 месяцев назад

Loved him in _Carnivàle_ (2003).

@dupersuper1938 5 месяцев назад

He voiced a great Lex Luthor.

@dereknolin5986 6 месяцев назад

I love this movie. I think not everyone is going to vibe with the tone of this. This is a both a satire and a high budget B-movie. I think it's ok to go along with the B-movie cliches and enjoy the tropes, even as you know it's self-aware of what it is. It's like eating a corn dog and greasy fries, and knowing that it isn't haute cuisine or even good for you but still enjoying it. Also, when this movie came out, the special effects were mind blowing. The CG bugs were on a completely different level from anything that had been done before. Yes, it most definitely has a deeper meaning about fascism. But at some level if you just don't enjoy the sheer spectacle of soldiers fighting giant alien bugs, then this movie isn't for you.

@mbe3404 6 месяцев назад

The way Verhoeven switches between fascism and high school drama is brilliant. "oh maybe the bugs aren't the aggressor--let's get tattoos"

@Smido83 6 месяцев назад

Verhoven never understood the Novel, cause he never read it. There is nothing fashistic about this society. Not even the Propaganda parts. So sad now little people understand what fashism really is.

@mbe3404 6 месяцев назад

@@Smido83 I read the book probably 20 times before the first movie even came out. Came out and probably 20 times after. Both works are reflective of how their creators grew up. Heinlein watched the US topple the Nazis so he had a great respect for the power of the state. Verhoven grew up in Nazi occupied Holland so he had a very different view. Both perspectives are important. Yes, Verhoeven didn't even read the novel, and I'd love to see a real movie version, but the movie is still an important satire of a fascist society.

@leesmapman4764 6 месяцев назад

@@Smido83 the movie literally started with a one on one remake of Leni Riefenstahl's nazi propaganda movie Triumph of the Wills (the "I'm doing my part" bit)

@TennSeven 6 месяцев назад

@@Smido83 Verhoeven grew up in fascist-occupied Netherlands. Are you seriously arguing that he doesn't "understand what fashism[sic] really is"?? It's true that the movie does not follow the novel at all, but to say it doesn't depict a fascist society is complete ignorance on your part.

@Smido83 6 месяцев назад

@@TennSeven Then explain to me what about this society is fashist? That everyone has every basic human right but has to give something to society before earning the right to vote? Is anyone allowed to serve to earn the right? Can someone who didnt serve reach wealth and prosparity? Are men and woman litterally equal? Do leaders take responsibilities for failures? The answer to all those questions is YES! Pretty sure life for Veehoeven was different back in the day. IF thats a fashist society, then I want to live in it. If anything the TV propaganda clips are the only things that have a fashist undertone. And they seem completely out of place in the movie. I think (can be wrong) that thats on purpose. But those clips could also easily be comunist propaganda... So no, the society in this movie is not fashistic. Militaristic, sure. But thats not the same, specially cause noone is forced to serve.

@danielskinner5346 6 месяцев назад

In the orginal novel (which I highly recommend) almost half the novel is a flash back of Rico's school and MI training. It begins with one of the best written scifi battle scenes.

@NylonStrap 6 месяцев назад

I saw this with my brother in the theater in 97 and it blew us away.

@noeticjuggernaut73 6 месяцев назад

The commercial for this movie is still one of the most amazing things I've ever seen In theatres.

@rockof.1793 6 месяцев назад

Verhoeven came to Hollywood as a real outsider. He also has memories of the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands. I love how he translated his views and concerns, however, the film feels almost like a prank on an unsuspecting audience and I understand how one might not like it.

@y00t00b3r 4 месяца назад

This movie is also an insult to the memory of Robert Heinlein.

@j0nt 6 месяцев назад

This is one of my favorite films. I'm surprised you didn't love it.

@xavvi 6 месяцев назад

She straight up didn't get it.

@jfryk 6 месяцев назад

@@xavvishe actually nailed it, she just wasn't convinced that she had the right take. Gotta stick around for the trivia section.

@Melancthon7332 5 месяцев назад

I'm actually reading the comments before watching, because I'm thinking "she's totally not going to get this movie". And it looks like I'm right.

@phatpolofish 6 месяцев назад

The main characters went from school kids full of ideas and hope and are turned into military drones to do what they are told without questioning. I think you may have enjoyed this film more knowing a little about what to expect. Still I always enjoy your reviews even if I agree or not, we all like different things and it's good to hear other perspectives. Thanks for the awesome uploads and happy holidays

@michaelrosenblum4170 6 месяцев назад

This came out when I was in middle school. Had to get homework done on computer before going to my grandparents, Grandma said if I got it done she'd take me to a movie. Went to this. I don't think she ever forgave me. As a kid loved the action, as an adult I love the satire. Great reaction as always

@ph8429 6 месяцев назад

same!

@cwcm1985 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like how I got my dad to take me to see South Park. I was like 11. Said it was 2 hours he'll never get back. Lol.

@lolyungmulaBABY 6 месяцев назад

how wonderful to share that shower scene as a family

@Lubetube111 6 месяцев назад

33:39 remember hank told him "The only way your seeing combat is if you bust yourself to private! You get me?" he got demoted....so he could fight.

@SilentBob731 6 месяцев назад

The way Shan immediately gets the humour in this movie is one of the reasons she's one of my favourite Reactors. Cheers and Salutations from Canada. 🥃☮❤

@rogermorris9696 6 месяцев назад

It was a strange time casting wiser Denise Richards, play a high school age here and in Wild Things, yet a nuclear scientist in Tomorrow Never Dies, that opened the same year.

@markharris1125 6 месяцев назад

I thought she only came once that year . . . . I'll get my coat.

@timmooney7528 6 месяцев назад

Several of the actors were well into the late 20's were cast to play high school age kids. Eric Bruskotter was in his early 30's. He was a regular on Tour of Duty 10 years earlier.

@ryanh603 6 месяцев назад

Yes, Tomorrow Never Dies came out the same year in ‘97 but Denise was not in TMD. You’re thinking of The World Is Not Enough in ‘99.

@rockof.1793 6 месяцев назад

It's her casting in James Bond that wss odd. She was dreadful in that role.

@markharris1125 6 месяцев назад

@@ryanh603 Those two years gave her the gravitas needed to play a nuclear scientist.

@joeblankenship377 6 месяцев назад

I saw this one in the theater. I remember seeing previews for it and the effects looked really good. Even by today's standards, they're pretty good. Solid blending of CGI and practical models.

@OnTheRocks71 6 месяцев назад

The destruction of the Rodger Young near the end still gives me goosebumps. Just a perfect blend of masterful model work and CGI. I know in 97 everyone was talking about Titanic and its ship sinking sequence, but Starship Troopers offers up a solid runner-up when it comes to "oh shit oh shit oh shit" moments of destruction.

@jenifferschmitz8618 6 месяцев назад

its so bad its bloody awesome

@Oerades 4 месяца назад

16:05 During the whip scene, Sgt.Zim says one of the best quotes: "Bite down on this, son. Its help... i know"

@jonnybb 6 месяцев назад

Had to laugh 14 minutes in. "I wonder if we make it into combat". It showed it 14 SECONDS in ! hahah

@ll7868 6 месяцев назад

It's never mentioned in the movie but from the time they graduate high school to the final battle on Klendathu is 5 years with about 18 months at the beginning spent in basic training and Rico becomes Squad Leader of the Marauders. Year 2 is when Rico was mistaken for KIA on their first mission. Year 3 & 4 they join Lt. Rasczak's Roughnecks aka Alpha Squad and go on many missions. Rico becomes the Squad Leader after Rasczak's death and they become Rico's Roughnecks. Year 5 they capture the Big Bug. The movie is condensed, if it followed the book it would be about 5 or 6 hours long. And you're right about the asteroid being a random event, the bugs never sent it. It would take 100,000 years even if the asteroid were moving at the speed of light, for them to have planned that attack it would have to have been set in motion when humans were still trying not to be eaten by sabretooth cats. It was the military justifying an invasion, the humans were the bad guys.

@ll7868 6 месяцев назад

Avatar and Way Of The Water humans are the same as these ones, humanity are the alien invaders, except in Starship Troopers the soldiers are manipulated by lies and propaganda to believe they were the victims of an attack and the war is justified when in fact the military controlled government just wanted an excuse to commit genocide of the bugs and take over their system. The bugs have no technology, there's no way they even knew humans existed until they started colonizing their system and killing them for sport. In Avatar it's not a militaristic government, it's a Plutocracy driven by wealth and power who employ the military for personal use.

@judasgoat1035 6 месяцев назад

the libs don't read they have no clue what the book written by Mr Hienlien was about they can tell you all about the 255 different genders though!

@ComicCrossing 6 месяцев назад

No thats just a theory. The fact that they can hurl shit into space from their planet makes it possible. The rules of hard science do not apply in this movie. Just because in REALITY the giant hivemind of alien bugs couldnt send a asteroid to hit Earth doesnt mean it isnt possible in the film universe.

@ll7868 6 месяцев назад

@@ComicCrossing The fact humans can launch satellites into space doesn't mean we've got the technology to capture an asteroid then calculate the trajectory to figure out where a target would be in 100,000 years. The bugs have no technology. The whole point of the story is that the humans are the invaders, they were a metaphor for a Communistic Stratocracy (A Marxist government run by the military) and the bugs are how they see their pacifist victims, just insects to be squashed. The book came out in 1959 and was a mirror of the times, Cuba had just fought a War of Independence and the new government was Marxist Stratocracy following the footsteps of the USSR and China and started exiling citizens to the USA, Americans started panicking in the belief they were Communist agents sent to take over the USA, it was the beginning of the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Spoiler: The USA were the bad guys in that one) The book was a Futurist (not futuristic) hypothesis of the entire world becoming a Communist Stratocracy and using propaganda to compel it's citizens to declare war on other worlds since it's obsolete on Earth and all countries under one world government. The bugs just happened to be in the system humans arrived in to colonize. The Avatar movies use the same theme but their aliens are kinda hot, if you're into aliens. In the Mass Effect games there's a peaceful race of buggy/insect/spider creatures called the Rachni manipulated into a war by outside forces who were based on the bug society from Starship Troopers.

@Merecir 6 месяцев назад

In the book, the Bugs are technologically advanced and did indeed attack humanity.

@aross344 6 месяцев назад

I saw this in the cinema in 97. It was rated as a 15 in the uk at the time (revised to 18+ on dvd release) and me being 13 at the time loved this movie.

@jpruiz600 6 месяцев назад

The first time I watched this movie was while I was in Army basic trainin back in 1999. It was the fourth of July and we had a day off from training. So the drill sergeants played this movie. We all loved it and fired up by it. Looking back from 24 years ago, I felt the drill sergeants knew what they were doing showing us this movie lol

@zairac2564 6 месяцев назад

[Rico leaves home for the military] Shan: He's being kind of dumb. Rico's 35% math score: Am I a joke to you?

@jennccherrybomb 6 месяцев назад

I'm a huge Heinlein fan and own most of his books and still I adore this Verhoeven film anyway lol

@NOLAgenX 6 месяцев назад

I hope to find out by the end you like this, because it is deeper than it seems on the surface.

@JS-wp4gs 5 месяцев назад

The film is clearly a lesson in be careful what you wish for: zander wanted to get his brains sucked out and dizzy wanted to get flip six three holed. They just didn't expect it to be from the bugs

@edwardlublow7577 6 месяцев назад

I love your reaction! From blank staring, to giddiness, to "I hope they all die!"😂 Life imitates art and Art imitates life.

@jrobwoo688 6 месяцев назад

This movie goes full circle and I just love that so much

@blakewalker84120 6 месяцев назад

21:25 "I can't see how humans stand a chance against these things. They're so much bigger." Guns, bullets, grenades, bombs, planes, tanks, missiles, orbital bombardment, and nuclear weapons. That's just for starters. Yeah, the bugs can shoot butt-beams so at least they can fight back. But an army equipped with nukes doesn't really depend on the individual size of each soldier.

@willmartin7293 6 месяцев назад

Don't forget a big can of bug spray.

@blakewalker84120 6 месяцев назад

@@willmartin7293 LoL. I never thought of that. If they would have just brought a giant can of Raid, the approximate size of the Roger Young, this would have been a much shorter movie.

@Wrencher_86 6 месяцев назад

You gotta be the only one I've seen react to this that gets and acknowledges the satire aspect. Thank you.

@JOEYd11381 5 месяцев назад

Fun fact: all the main cast at the beginning are good looking blondish hair blue eyed Aryan specimens from Buenos Aries. Argentina was a supposed haven for ex-Nazis after the war.

@pallenda 6 месяцев назад

Saw it at the cinema, it was amazing. Dripping with satire.

@NoCampDad 6 месяцев назад

I love this movie. I did see it in theaters. I think the average viewer sometimes just wants a mindless movie that doesn't make any sense. I don't watch movies to get life lessons. I rewatch movies too check out for a couple hours.

@Uncle_T 6 месяцев назад

It's "interesting" how every citizen you see in the beginning of the movie is brutally maimed in some way. Not exactly subtle but quite telling. One of my all-time faves for sure.

@henrikharbin5521 6 месяцев назад

I caught it in the theater after reading the book. Robert Heinlein was a military man, so yes he was pro soldier and pro war. I got used to older movies showing people in their mid 30s as soldiers, but the reality is closer here... We really do have kids 18 and sometimes younger going to war. Very sad indeed.

@titanuranus3095 6 месяцев назад

Childrens crusade

@5ilver42 6 месяцев назад

"pro war" is not really accurate. He just has a view on history that a strong military is necessary for a civilization to exist, and looking to democracy specifically, that one has to demonstrate their values and interest in the good of others to qualify as deserving to take part in such a civilization.

@ajmeyers5661 6 месяцев назад

@henrikharbin5521 *"Robert Heinlein was a military man, so yes he was pro soldier and pro war. "* - Most soldiers aren't pro war, because...well...they are the ones tasked by civilians to go out and do the fighting. Maybe Heinlein (sp?) was pro war--I have no idea, as I never had the chance to ask--but that would put him in hte minority

@misterkite 6 месяцев назад

Not only did I see this in theaters when it came out and loved it.. but I also saw the Rifftrax Live version in theaters.

@dereknolin5986 6 месяцев назад

Doing Rifftrax on this seems like gilding the lily. How are you going to satirize a satire? Unless you just missed the original satire?

@ieyke 6 месяцев назад

Part of what you're missing is that it IS also a war about land. It flies under the radar in the movie because they only mention it once while they're bombarding you with tons of other stuff early on, but the bugs are an indigenous population whose land is being invaded by human colonists. So of course the colonizers are going to try and exterminate the indigenous population and treat them as the bad guys. The bug meteor was just the bugs fighting back, and of course the humans spin it as if THEY are the victims so that they can justify wiping out the bugs and recruit more kids to die.

@macmcleod1188 5 месяцев назад

The bug's response was akin to stabbing someone in the heart for touching them. "Oh look 10,000 colonists settled so we will kill them all and then hit your planet with a meteor to kill several million people." Without the bug attack, there would have been no war. Just a diplomatic incident.

@ieyke 5 месяцев назад

@@macmcleod1188 They're bugs. That's what bugs do. Ever touch a beehive? Hornet nest? Anthill? Also, history shows that that was 100% the correct response.

@BiPolarUrsus 5 месяцев назад

Mormon colonists. I for one agree with the bugs on this one lol

@macmcleod1188 5 месяцев назад

@ieyke as the bugs are sentient as a species they are responsible for their actions. However, after a wasp stung me on the forehead five or six years ago, wasp nests do not survive on my property for more than a few minutes. And I check my property once a week during the spring summer and fall. I don't view them as sentient but I do view them as vermin now.

@user-yf6zz3cl8i 5 месяцев назад

The drill instructor is the same guy who voiced mr Krabs

@trulybtd5396 6 месяцев назад

Fun fact, they used the helmets for the alliance uniforms in firefly. Now you can't unsee it.

@Renegade2786 4 месяца назад

And they were also used in Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy.

@rik6696 6 месяцев назад

This is actually a very strong anti war, anti propaganda film. There is one small segment that most people miss when the new broadcaster says that "the bugs have a live let live philosophy". Humans encroached on the bugs space and the bugs were defending themselves.

@thescrambler692 6 месяцев назад

Yes, quite the 'live and let live philosophy' when they wiped Buenos Aires off the face of the Earth instantly killing millions.

@had1toomany114 6 месяцев назад

I think you heard that wrong. He said, "Some say that the bugs were provoked by the intrusion of humans into their natural habitat, that a live and let live policy is preferable to war with the bugs." In other words, the people would rather have peace instead of war. Bugs aren't talking...lol. So you are attributing the live and let live policy to the wrong species. Bugs and humans were both expanding to other planets and the bugs got aggressive when our proximity got too close for their liking. "Some" in Some say is the people. If you replace it with bugs like you say it doesn't make much sense. The bugs say that the bugs were provoked.....the bugs say that a live and let live policy is preferable to war with the bugs. Doesn't make sense.

@rik6696 6 месяцев назад

@@had1toomany114 The humans intruded into the Bugs natural habitat. Given the aggressive leanings of the humans the humans were the aggressor. The fact that all the propaganda in this film is so in your face and that reporters moment of truth is so small suggests that the humans were being the bad guys.

@had1toomany114 6 месяцев назад

@@rik6696We don’t really know who started it from the movie. In the book it’s both bugs and humans expanding. My point was more of the fact that the bugs are aggressive, and do not have a “live and let live policy”. The reporter was quoting people.

@dillydog1053 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas Shanelle!! Thank you for having fun with all of us, and thank you for a great year!

@auckalukaum 6 месяцев назад

This is the best kind of camp: played 100% straight, with an incredible cast of character actors. And I've been totally in love with Dina Meyer since Dragonheart.

@bemasaberwyn55 5 месяцев назад

Dina is so great

@chrisdobbs9155 6 месяцев назад

About Neil Patrick Harris being in this, this is his "comeback" movie. He had been gone from Hollywood for around a decade before this.

@TheTitandog70 6 месяцев назад

I remember getting free passes to see this on the theater. I love it. The bugs cgi still holds up and love the world building and yes the humans are the bad guys in this one

@shainewhite2781 6 месяцев назад

This movie is the ultimate satire. Paul Verhoven hated the novel the movie was based on, as it took itself was too serious and that it lacked the humor and propaganda we see in the final cut.

@Mitheledh 6 месяцев назад

He never even read the novel. And from the movie he made, he also clearly didn't understand the novel.

@kevinramsey417 6 месяцев назад

@Mitheledh Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles was an animated series that takes more from the book and it is REALLY good. Verhoeven still gets a pass for Robocop.

@Mitheledh 6 месяцев назад

@@kevinramsey417 I remember watching it. It was really good.

@trulybtd5396 6 месяцев назад

@@Mitheledhhe abseloutly understood the novel, he also didn't accept it's premise and turned the movie into the satire the book deserves.

@MagsonDare 6 месяцев назад

@@trulybtd5396 What's to understand? It's a novel. You know.... fiction? Completely made up. Heinlein wrote a LOT of books, short stories, and story collections featuring many different government types, many in the same book with nations of differing types opposing each other. So why has this one short novel somehow been adopted as "the one that actually means something, the one where the author was fantasizing about what he truly wants?" Especially when it's a 1-off, but the themes of immortality, free love, and removal of nudity taboos feature prominently in several of his books. One would think the things he was "really into" would feature often, like those things, not once in a less-than-200-page book that he never revisited. Of course this assumes that an author even HAS a "message" rather than just makling stuff up to entertain people. But no.... RAH must have been a right-wing fascist. It's completely unpossible that he could have dreamed this 1 book (out of 32 published) up otherwise. /rolleyes

@louremington6975 6 месяцев назад

I saw this at the theater and loved it. I went back and saw it two more times.

@Nomis3586 5 месяцев назад

i love this movie! i rented it atleast a 100 times in the 90s. Paul veerhoven is a genius!

@toiletduk 6 месяцев назад

Nobody ever comments on the fact that the condemned man's capture, trial, and execution are all in the same day.

@charlize1253 6 месяцев назад

Great observation! Also at 9:26 in the TV commercials, they'll televise the execution of a convicted human, but they censor a bug eating a cow.

@toiletduk 6 месяцев назад

@@charlize1253And they showed a TV reporter getting torn in half.

@arcsphere 6 месяцев назад

I love this movie! It is over the top and fun. And the special effects still hold up suprisingly well.

@bemasaberwyn55 5 месяцев назад

97 gave us this, MIB, and Titanic. Goddamn was that a great year

@Daividox 6 месяцев назад

The slow blink at, "It's afraid!"

@mcgilj1 6 месяцев назад

They weren't satirizing rank.. Zim literally got himself demoted to fight.. At the end of the film Johnny actually outranks Zim who is now just a grunt.. The guy who literally taught Johnny.

@notjustforhackers4252 6 месяцев назад

In recent years the line "Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks *offensive* " really hits home, Paul knew exactly what he was doing. The brilliance of this film is just under the surface and it is brilliant. You're right it didn't do well in the US when released but was really popular in post second world war Europe. I first saw it in 97, I was a bit to young to get it then. It's true what they say, you see things differently as you get older. I do enjoy how it makes, some, modern audiences sit up and think, question, with shock in their eyes, when they see today's political similarity. An uncomfortable, for many, masterpiece.

@IcyTorment 6 месяцев назад

Basically, the book was a very interesting and thought-provoking novel about the whats and whys of the military. The movie ended up as essentially a parody that kind of misses the mark. That's why you haven't heard of a lot of these actors and actresses--they were all supposed to be up-and-comers who would break out when this movie hit, but the movie wasn't the blockbuster that had been hoped for and their careers plateaued afterwards.

@nightfall902 6 месяцев назад

In this case, it's one of the few times that's a good thing. The novel is still better and different from the film, they only share the title. One of the few films that reading the book on which it was based won't distract from the film.

@Yggdrasil42 6 месяцев назад

Dutch films historically had plenty of full nudity in them. When Verhoeven became internationally known he stuck to his Dutch roots and I'm glad he didn't shy away from the controversy that would inevitably ensue from US audiences.

@Kaylakaze 3 месяца назад

I saw this opening night in theaters. It came out the same day as Bean and my friends and I went to the movies, watched Bean, and then watch Starship Troopers.

@Timeisaflat_O 6 месяцев назад

When this movie was being advertised, in the very early days, it was rated "PG-13." My dad saw those ratings and decided to take me to this movie at the age of nine, because I had seen Alien and he thought I could handle it. When we got there and it was rated R, he was just like, "Eh, probably just a bit more bloody." It traumatized me, haha. I had nightmares for months from this movie.

@mikedignum1868 6 месяцев назад

They killed off the wrong girl. This film always reminded me of the TV series Space Above and Beyond.

@skapunker21 6 месяцев назад

i loved that show!

@Fischstix95 3 месяца назад

I'm doing my part! Help spread managed democracy throughout the galaxy!

@AtomixIGN 5 месяцев назад

"on a never ending hamster wheel of chasing rank, chasing valor, fighting some bugs, and just so dumb" Yes.

@beriliumsphere107 6 месяцев назад

I couldnt finish your reaction

@martinlatour9311 Месяц назад

shes insufferable

@ben2741 Месяц назад

EVERYONE FIGHTS! NO ONE QUITS!

@generic_sauce 6 месяцев назад

Ending the Verhoeven trilogy with the best of the three! Welcome to the Roughnecks, Shanelle.

@ph8429 6 месяцев назад

I just tried to look up how the arachnids were able to attack earth with an asteroid and I wound up on a reddit page on the subject. There was vehement disagreement about whether the bugs had the ability to redirect asteroids or whether it was all a false flag operation by the federation. It was all very entertaining.

@stargazer1682 6 месяцев назад

My read has been that the asteroid that hit Argentina was actually caused by Carmen during when she piloted the ship and hit the asteroid, altering its trajectory and resulting in it hitting Earth.

@hikikomicklori9290 6 месяцев назад

Do you ever watch the trailers for the movies you watch to see how the movie was marketed and which moments were chosen for the trailers?

@SuddenReal 6 месяцев назад

There are fans who completely analyzed the movie and according to them, Earth started the conflict by colonizing the bug planet, causing the bugs to react in self defense. Another theory is that the meteorite that destroyed Buenos Aires is the same one that was knocked off course by the collision with the space ship Carmen was flying and that was used as a justification to start an all out war with the bugs. So yeah, earth is the bad guy.

@vinapocalypse 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it was IMO a very obviously imperialistic, expansionist Earth, and a metaphor for Western imperialism into the rest of the world

@Hereticked 6 месяцев назад

Whether or not it was the meteor that hit the ship, the fact that it hits Earth basically proves it was used as a false flag. They specifically show us Earth's orbital weapons platforms destroying meteors earlier in the movie. But we're supposed to believe one just slipped past technology that advanced? We don't have anything like that today, and we'd still know long before a meteor was going to hit Earth. Also, the fact that Rico (and probably countless others) were listed as KIA even though they were still alive was no mistake. They were intentionally stoking the casualty numbers to play up the horror/severity and drum up more support for the war. The smartest aspects of this film tend to go over most people's heads.

@TheJamieRamone 6 месяцев назад

2:54 - Hey, it's a Paul Verhoeven movie. What did you expect? 😁

@MGower4465 6 месяцев назад

If the brain bug had eaten Carmen's brain first, it might not have still been hungry. Alas, it went for Zander first, the raw celery of brain, thus dooming them both.

@callahan2325 6 месяцев назад

Starship troopers and dances with wolves in the same month. My dream came true

@mparantha 6 месяцев назад

another great verhoven satire.

@thegingergyrl455 6 месяцев назад

I saw this in the theater in 1997 with my ex husband. He loved it. I was not as thrilled but respect what it was trying to accomplish. It’s not something I return to but I wanted to see how you reacted to it.

@brentamador171 2 месяца назад

Fun fact for those who don’t know. The drill sergeant is the guy who voices Mr. Krabs In SpongeBob

@Cifer77 6 месяцев назад

"The enemy can not push a button, if you disable his hand!" Best line ever

@erauprcwa 6 месяцев назад

YES! Your summation at the end was perfect and what Verhoeven was trying to get across. Your entire commentary of watching the film was exactly what Verhoeven was trying to get across. Everything was on purpose. I love when directors do films that make you feel like "this is stupid" "where is this going"... because that's the point! Match it with what the film was trying to talk about, you see very clearly that's the point. He brings the audience into the narrative. It's almost a breaking of the fourth wall.

@Amarok41 6 месяцев назад

Starship Troopers is the movie the Nazis would make if they won the war. Thats Verhoovens point and everything he did was intentional.

@vincenttayelrand 5 месяцев назад

One of the rare movies that only got better as the years passed by. As an outsider Paul Verhoeven was fascinated by the militarization of American society in the nineties and he always wanted to make a movie that would make fascism look sexy. Arguably he succeeded. To put his philosophy into perspective, growing up as a young boy in the Netherlands during the German occupation Verhoeven was lined up by German soldiers for a mock execution. I am not sure he ever really got over that experience.

@tremorsfan 6 месяцев назад

The legless guy is the Medical Examiner from CSI.

@char_lizard8440 6 месяцев назад

What's wrong with the pledge of allegiance????

@martinlatour9311 5 месяцев назад

shes a lefty. they hate everything that made this country great

@BadassVideos 6 месяцев назад

you wrong. this is best movie ever

@OtakuAnime01 6 месяцев назад

When you realize Clancy Brown (Sgt. Zim) is also the voice of Mr. Krabs on Spongebob cartoon series and movies....

@waynepersall1115 6 месяцев назад

Context: written in 1959 America, height of the cold war, society was very much a shadow of this short story. Written by Robert Heinlin, a naval officer and engineer, he captured the mindset of marines he knew (they are mostly the sane today especially spec ops) the attitude you see has kept America safe from the Soviet to terrorists for over 200 years. Finally there is a satire running through the entire film, it was supposed to be over the top.

@Arbosh4 6 месяцев назад

I saw this in theatres when it came out (aged 18) and had passing familiarity with the novel. Really appreciated the satirical take on the source material making it more accessible to the general public than the book did. A warning to the world powers that's still valid today as it was back then. The animated series follows the intent of the book more closely and is a great watch too.

@Malryth 6 месяцев назад

Oh Shanelle, you whiner. You are a Beautiful as Denise Richards and I did rush to the movie theatre to watch this movie when it was "new". I also own it on DVD. Loved your reaction to this iconic film!!

@ghostofyourmom 6 месяцев назад

Ew.

@martinlatour9311 5 месяцев назад

yikes

@TheJamieRamone 6 месяцев назад

24:40 - "More guts, moar gutz!" 😂

@Wix_Mitwirth 6 месяцев назад

Merry Holidays Shan, Fam, etc.!🎉💝 Major Payne: I knew I f*in' loved you.🤣

@TheJamieRamone 6 месяцев назад

10:02 - Aw man, I *LOVE* Major Payne! That's also one of my favorites. Haven't watched it in a while though.

@gacchan 6 месяцев назад

This was such a fun watch along Shanelle. Thanks!

@MzQTMcHotness 6 месяцев назад

It’s wild that this entire movie is based on a throw-away paragraph in the novel.

@jacotromp59581 5 месяцев назад

This came out when I was in high school and it was a huge movie. Everyone in my class went to see it and we couldn't stop quoting it. I also find it funny how that guy was offended by the fact that a bug can think, and in 2024 most people are offended over nothing, hahaha. Also, seeing this in the cinema, the CGI blew us away.