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Follow along as I mix drums from scratch, in real time!
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@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

Grab your free Mixing Cheatsheet to learn the go-to starting points for EQ and compression in heavy mixes: www.mixcheatsheet.com

@srenhunskaar3924 6 месяцев назад

hey! great vid. and thanks. The "Download" button on the link does not work. thanks!

@neighbourhoodmusician 8 месяцев назад

First start is that the original performance is fantastic and it's well recorded.

@YeahButStilll 8 месяцев назад

Paul Koehler is a beast

@kmg1434 3 месяца назад

would love to know the snare and mics on it! sounds great

@gi_holm 2 месяца назад

Crap in, crap out. Always gotta try your best to get it right at the source.

@AnthonyGreenMountain 8 месяцев назад

Ahahahahah 2:52 "we'll work on the toms later". It's good to see we're all the same and we all leave toms for last because they're annoying.

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

haha, i always avoid them for as long as possible

@gaetanclybouw 8 месяцев назад

I appreciate the "No Samples Allowed" mixing tutorial, more of this please!

@queenpurple8433 7 месяцев назад

I agree, there’s something about being able to tell there is samples in a production that truly does suck the life out of it. It’s not some stuck up trend to avoid samples. Especially with this style of music

@TheFreyjaSystem 4 месяца назад

@@queenpurple8433 You can't tell there's samples in a production, I don't understand how you can tell when samples by definition are real recorded drums.

@PitchforkIncorporated 3 месяца назад

You should do live sound. Oh wait they’re all running samples as well. Maybe a time machine. 😂

@gaetanclybouw 3 месяца назад

@@TheFreyjaSystem If the snare hits the same without any small pitch movements, it’s a sample. It’s simple. Real instruments detune while samples don’t…

@TheFreyjaSystem 3 месяца назад

@@PitchforkIncorporated Fun fact. I have done it I've had bands come in use both samples and real instrument

@DruMarshallDrums 18 дней назад

This speaks to the quality engineering before processing drums. It’s such a pleasure to mix well recorded drums! Well done Jordan 🤘

@noise05 6 месяцев назад

I saw this video a couple of days ago and can't get this song out of my mind ever since! This whole production is the sound of my childhood man, what an excellent job you did! Any chance of a follow up video or maybe small series, where you brake down the other elements of the production too for us aspiring producers who wanna be more like you?🤔 Cheers from London

@kellerkind8438 8 месяцев назад

Love the Video. Thank you. And also I have to tell you I love Silencer very much. Grabbed it instantly, when it came out. Was a real no brainer. Never got so quick results that sound so amizing. If this thing would also have a leveler, it would make all other gates obsolete. Again, thank you for all your highly educating content. Cheers from Germany.

@DavidLaun 3 месяца назад

Best video ever! Also that drummer is a beast wow!

@brianhernandez2119 6 месяцев назад

The kick at the beginning sounded like a basketball and that the end it sounded crazy good! Awesome stuff

@gastonjabaly 2 месяца назад

I been sending snare toms and kick to a drum group compress and clip it then i send the rooms oh + the drum group to the main drum bus to finish it up

@ghastlyshimmer 8 месяцев назад

This style of content is always nice.

@oldguysplaymetal5517 8 месяцев назад

I've even been experimenting with Silencer on room mics, and it actually works! Takes a little finesse but with added compression and / or clipping, it makes for some fantastic snare drum and tom reinforcement. So, Silencer first, then enveloper to accentuate transient info, and voila!

@MrBikboi 6 месяцев назад

These videos are so valuable.

@drummingjeremy11 8 месяцев назад

This is gold. Thank you Jordan!

@nngg5045 7 месяцев назад

This is great, thank you!.. more of this start to finish mixes pls

8 месяцев назад

This is awesome! Thank you for this!

@yuriimedved 7 месяцев назад

Hey Jordan you are awesome! Appreciate your sharing, I was searching for such info. Best wishes!!!

@rosemeplz 8 месяцев назад

There’s a plug-in called “drum leveler” that can really help out with kick drum situations like this and getting the weaker hits to punch through. I find it can further eliminate the need to blend in a sample.

@mikeweiser2210 7 месяцев назад

Couldn’t agree more. It’s absolutely one of my desert island plugins. What took me two hours of cleaning up bleed and fade ins and outs from tom tracks takes me now only fifteen minutes give or take. The post gate after leveling is such a game changer. Can’t recommend that plugin enough

@vinnyg411 5 месяцев назад

Only issue I have w drum leveler is that the frequency balance of a lightly hit drum (especially kick drum) is much different than one that is hit hard. A softer hit tends to have very little of that click sound and a lot of bass. So when you raise all the hits to the same level, it tends to sound very unnatural and often muddy.

@BananaSplitBrain 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the Video! Can you make a Video on Drumrecording? I feel like a good record and performance is (even more than) half of the mix.

@MultiMegaman9 8 месяцев назад

Love your content and I really enjoy these deep dive step-by-step process videos! For when I really want to be able to critically listen to your content in my studio, it would be really cool if your channel opted for the higher audio bit-rate option on RU-vid! This may not be worth it for everyone, but for those that really are trying to critically listen on decent set ups it would be worthwhile! just a thought. 🙃

@myhomerecordingexperience 8 месяцев назад

Great video man! You should do it with the rest of the song!!!

@오정재-b3t 8 месяцев назад

Oh... This drum mix was so great Next time, the guitar for this song... in bass order It would be more helpful if you could do the same song

@hardcastleworld 3 месяца назад

Great walkthrough!!

@dawprofit 5 месяцев назад

Hey great vid! I was wondering what you use to stream the audio from Pro Tools? Looks and sounds great

@boxculture 7 месяцев назад

25:26 he hears the toms 😂😂

@milanpolak 8 месяцев назад

Awesome video, thanks Jordan!

@samxday 7 месяцев назад

Can anyone explain in more detail the part about side chaining the expander for the hall mic.

@RestLer- 5 месяцев назад

05:52 - this is not output, this is input))

@drrodopszin 8 месяцев назад

I wish had this material when I started. I didn't have access to the raw material until a studio friend outsourced the editing to me.

@paulkit- 2 месяца назад

thnx

@angusica11 7 месяцев назад

Hello! there is an option to have send faders to look like you have instead click on each one of them separately?

@DROPDbaby 4 месяца назад

Do you use side chain compression for drums and bass?

@zariqzaidi 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video!

@smeemusic 8 месяцев назад

Okay I have a wild idea to help solve that lack of consistency in the kick attack… What if you were to apply a white noise track and then side chain it to open a gate with the kick track? Then you could LP down to 2.6k and HP up to 2.4k to give you a white noise trigger at 2.5khz. Then go back to the gate and fine tune it to to really focus in on that transient. I mean you could do this with any frequency obviously. I just chose 2.5k to make the point. I’ve heard of this done before on (I think) megadeth albums from the 80’s maybe early 90’s. I’ve wanted to try it but I always fight the problem and reach for other solutions instead. I mean there’s so many potential solutions to any problem in a mix, I tend to stray away from the experimental stuff sometimes. But this particular idea stays rattling around in my head.

@redlightclinicdrummer 3 месяца назад

Bro could you please maybe do all of your drum videos in one and make it a little more Logic Pro X friendly lol? I love your videos I just need way quicker videos with sections. I'm an idiot 😂 So Im slowly coming along but its hard to understand what youre doing in Pro Tools

@alexgruszka1744 6 месяцев назад

Hi. Don't You have a problem with a cymbals bleeding in a snare mic ? I can't find the way to debleed my snares :(

@Beatsbasteln 8 месяцев назад

that was an awesome video and resulting sound. but i was surprised that you seemingly ignored potential phase problems. starting with you skipping the stage where you add micro delays to the mics to find the perfect phase relationship in the first place. not a fan of that? or already did that before? also you put a lowcut on the overheads instead of a lowshelf, despite it introducing at least one phase rotation, depending on the slope. or was it a linear phase filter? i don't know that plugin myself. what's your opinion on phase-related mixing topics like these? btw loved the trick where you used the downwards expander on the room send to add focus to the snare!

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

I never do anything like that! I want to mix, not to math

@targetpanicrecords 8 месяцев назад

Sounds great as always😊, you’re looking a little pasty and tired there buddy ...get some rest get some sun🧐

@samxday 7 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@tiagolorena 8 месяцев назад

Seeing you have the SSL as your go-to channel strip, have you ever considered the Softube Console 1? I had it for a few years and loved the ergonomics, my only complaint was the lack of a range control on the gate.

@Rhuggins 8 месяцев назад

You can buy other gates for C1 that have a range. In fact I think most of them do, perhaps the one that ships with it doesnt

@diremixmasters 7 месяцев назад

Thank you,!

@hanssackstark4690 8 месяцев назад

Great video👍what is your opinion on slate VSX?

@antnips 8 месяцев назад

Are you using the Avid Artist Mix controller?

@davidreynolds6718 8 месяцев назад

You basically did most of that mix with the drums solo'd, which I thought was the number rule of what not to do. I guess since you were largely grouping the drums together, that doesn't count as solo'ing? I am so dumb. I've taken that to mean you should be doing this kind of mixing with the guitars and everything else playing.

@bradylasserre9320 3 месяца назад

He solo processed the drums individually to get them in the realm of where he expects them to be. Even then, it was very minimal. A little saturation, small amounts of eq, ect.. Then he listened to it in context and adjusted as needed. Mixed like a true professional.

@JoeyFTL 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jordan! What's your choice of sample rate for mixing?

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

48k

@JoeyFTL 8 месяцев назад

@@hardcoremusicstudio thank you Jordan!

@andyto629 5 месяцев назад

In general, thank you for busting “new myths.” There are so many standard practices, techniques and what can only be called “lore” that are no longer apt. I started mixing at what I would call the “advent” of diy/itb. So many fundamentals of live mixing/gain staging no longer apply to studio recordings. Shit, they barely apply to live sound anymore. All the info keeps hitting you tube almost as fast as the technology changes. Please keep debunking what can only be considered the latest “old school”

@midlifeadventures3138 8 месяцев назад

Great video! Jordan what the hell did you crash? or did it come to fistacuffs on a unpaid project?🤣

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

Haha. I was waiting for someone to comment. I took a puck to the face on my backyard rink

@midlifeadventures3138 8 месяцев назад

@@hardcoremusicstudio ouch, that could of been a lot worse. Them pucks are no joke.

@chriskramer9311 8 месяцев назад

Could you not copy and paste the fast kick hits to their own track with different compression settings?

@joelvandam 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like a squeaky kick pedal. Or is that ringing in the snare? Did you try WD40.vst?

@BurntMcgurnt 8 месяцев назад

This is really cool man! Would be awesome if did a video on setting relative volumes like how loud the bass is relation to the kick for instance

@charlespowell4413 8 месяцев назад

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Real drums do still exist. Few and far between these days. When when someone has the courage to record and mix real drums, it makes me so happy. To be able to see how to mix real drums is such valuable information that is so hard to come by. Thank you!

@robjohnson5829 8 месяцев назад

Jordan, thank you for everything you have done for this community. This video, as always, is a goldmine.

@oldguysplaymetal5517 8 месяцев назад

I'm recording an album right now with all real drums. Very rarely used samples and never replaced the real drums, just an occasional reinforcement. Its a challenge and a dying art, but Jordan obviously does it extremely well. BTW, Jordan, Silencer is a game changer for real drum recording. I don't say that often, but it truly is the best gate I've ever used. Thanks for great content

@tgstk2 8 месяцев назад

damnit.. well i'm going for second!! we just recorded drums in a studio.. so this is going to be helpful!

@eweesplace 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for tackling this topic, Jordan. Being a long time follower, I know that you often use samples as a light augmentation to an otherwise great organic kick or snare. Interestingly, I've seen folks in other videos of yours comment that your drums are 100% samples and that it doesn't apply to them. That couldn't be further from the truth in the cases I've ever seen. I think this video will help to clear up the capabilities of working purely with organic drums and how far one can get if they desire to use no samples. Probably not recommended in modern mixes, but a good practice to get the real drums as good as possible and go from there. Cheers

@jaylinsa 7 месяцев назад

"Not recommended in modern mixes"? F*#($ all that noise. That attitude is why everything sounds homogenised and and soulless.

@SugarySerial 21 день назад

@@jaylinsawas just thinking the same thing, everything sounds super sterile nowadays

@johndoe-cb5ck 8 месяцев назад

When are gonna get the studio tour?

@paulkit- 8 месяцев назад

im 1 st 😃😃😃

@aaronaustin7760 8 месяцев назад

What a pleasure to watch! Odd question, but what are the "lightning bolts" above the pan knobs?

@SecretMetalFromAbyss 8 месяцев назад

There's these vibes when you are sure you can mix an old project way better with a little more experience (or way more experience) in the pocket and just end making it worse in a way. :D Well this didn't make it worse and maybe a little better but all in all I'm just saying that cherish the stuff you've done and make it better next time. I'm not a native english speaker so I dont' really know how my english translates but at least my intention was to be uplifting. :D

@AlfaSamdong 7 месяцев назад

wanna ask some random question. What is differences between put channel strip on every channel with only on gtr bus, vocal bus etc?

@TheDwarfInvasion 8 месяцев назад

Incredibly good video. I prefer your new mix with the real drums to the samples. This is punk rock - the slate sample drum sound is just too manufactured. Really helpful to see how fast you can work.

@alexanderlozanov8744 4 месяца назад

Exactly. I see so many videos teaching "pro production" but every one of them ends up sounding the same - sterile, manufactured and fake. A real producer understands the style of the song and mixes accordingly. The mix in the video is bordering electronic music - exactly the opposite of what punk rock seeks to achieve.

@dtrmnts 7 месяцев назад

Question. My parallel drum comp track is also routed to my drum bus. Is that wrong? Should it just go straight to my master?

@BigBadMadden95 8 месяцев назад

Haha this is how I do a cover. Just stick the hardcore beat under it and call it done 🤣🤣

@Landeux 2 месяца назад

Can you share those signal chain please!

@somatattooathens 8 месяцев назад

Sounds already mixed to me.. 😂

@boboneil849 7 месяцев назад

Cool, bit sounds like a midi 🤷‍♂️

@disengagetattoos5074 7 месяцев назад

Remastered version? Lol

@russpiva9772 8 месяцев назад

This is amazing. Thank you Jordan!

@JohnC-fx4ue 3 месяца назад

Terrible song lol

@CarloCabiling-r6r 8 месяцев назад

Watching at this moment

@georgezorbas9036 8 месяцев назад

I have said that I haven't listened any other pro mixing so perfect a song like u are. What is making curious though, is that you don't care about oversampling... Don't you think that aliasing is building up in your mixes? So many compression and saturation and clipping..

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

Zero cares at all. Oversampling is a youtuber problem not a real mixer problem.

@peptoattack 8 месяцев назад

If you can't hear the problem... is it really a problem?

@georgezorbas9036 8 месяцев назад

@@hardcoremusicstudio I respect you because you always speak nicely and to the point. Though many fantastic mixing engineers like Dan Worall have said many things about oversampling. Could your simple trick is that you are mixing in 192khz? Anyway I would love a video with your opinion and approach relatively with aliasing. It doesn't matter what others say for sure...what mostly matters is the approach and if it sounds good.

@MattGarwood777 8 месяцев назад

my biggest hang up these days is how hot to set my overheads/cymbals. any tips on how load to reference them say compared to snare/kick? for various genres?

@ianmunn 8 месяцев назад

I aim for kick snare to have -6db peaks on average and cymbals/overheads to hit -15 to -18db on the snare peaks.

@TheDwarfInvasion 8 месяцев назад

Metric AB is a plugin that allows you to quickly switch between your own mix and a reference within your DAW session. Try using that to help set levels!

@MattGarwood777 7 месяцев назад

@@ianmunn this tip right here gave me an objective target to hit and immediately I got the balance I was looking for. I actually went a little lower on kick snare OH’s, but that’s based on my bus processing. thanks a ton for sharing

@ConstantineM 8 месяцев назад

Damn, thank you so much! Mixing real drums is a big challenge for me.

@jesusalvarado7355 7 месяцев назад

Hi friend nice video ! Got 2 questions for you. 1. At what volume by SPL do you mix with your CLA 10 ? 2. What VTPC knob setting do you eneded up using with the CLA 10s ? Thanks anticipated !

@trulyintense6613 8 месяцев назад

Always enjoy watching U work! thanks!!!!!!!!!

@dirk-lennarthogeveen5324 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jordan! Love your channel! I was wondering, what settings do you use on your CLA10’s? (The tissue knob) all the way on or off? So full brightness or do you go for a slight darker setting? I find it pretty confusing haha.

@paul.orourke497 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely love this content, very helpful in understanding how a professional works! What would be really helpful for people like me though would be if you describe what you're listening out for when doing things like eq and compression, as it can be hard to hear perfectly without great speakers, so understanding your thought process and what you're trying to fine tune, and how to hear that, would be a massive help

@adamb4936 8 месяцев назад

My preference for the kick would be 1. Lengthen the time on the BSA Silencer. 2. You could always cut and paste harder kick notes to where that one part gets softer. Thanks for the run-through though! 👍

@chrismorrison5497 8 месяцев назад

Always love your videos. Altho I've mixed for over a decade, I just like seeing masters work on their craft. One of the few times I've watched a video recently where someone did the moves I was thinking. I was like "that room is a bit woofy" and then you cut around 200. Then I thought the room mics were a bit much and then you gated to mostly have the snare pop out. I feel validated lol.

@davidhayman9330 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Jordan very helpful to watch the whole process bringing together all the tips youve talked about regarding individual drums previously

@nedea 8 месяцев назад

I really enjoy your mixing videos. By far the best I have come across on the tube, and I'm not even a hardcore head really, even if I used to be. I wish more mixing vids should be of your stature for other genres where you really can get a feel of the process and the workflow. Love the no nonses approach and your consistency with you plugins of choice. Keep up the great work dude!

@luvyoficial 8 месяцев назад

I always wanted to watch more about mixing drums without using drum samples. Cause I like to understand the process behind and the difference on it. So thanks!

@Makker_1 8 месяцев назад

I like that I can also actually hear what you are doing --> A lot of the times with mixing videos people do something and I can simply just not hear any difference...

@weeschwee 7 месяцев назад

I like to use some sort of exciter on the kick to get extra attack. But I'm still not sure that would be enough for those quieter hits.

@TOTO-nr8vu 8 месяцев назад

Great video thank you jordan, could we know how the drums were recorded? on a console or external preamp? you have already done some EQ and gate on the recording so that your track is so clean ?

@robertsteinberger 8 месяцев назад

Your free videos are better than what most guys put out as paid content.

@chazzhill-hayr6281 8 месяцев назад

Did you mix the original version / mix of this song? It's great.

@sionnachs_workshop 7 месяцев назад

really really nice work!

@c03x157 6 месяцев назад

Excelente video!

@SayajinKanak 7 месяцев назад

Nice

@guatordo 7 месяцев назад

you are the best!

@mrcvaldivia 7 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@sKarredtoon 8 месяцев назад

When can we expect the finished studio tour?

@hardcoremusicstudio 8 месяцев назад

Soon! Just a few finishing touches remaining… waiting on some electrical materials that are taking forever to arrive.

@anastav6915 7 месяцев назад

Damn that drummer is KILLER, how the hell did he manage to be that consistent with his dynamics and time is legit weird. Great video!

@alexanderlozanov8744 4 месяца назад

Chances are he isn't. Drums are probably quantized and the compression from the mixing destroys any kind of dynamics in his playing.

@theopinson3851 8 месяцев назад

I have a question for when you DO use snare samples…what the hell do you do with ghost notes? Doesn’t it sound weird when softer notes sound like they’re being hit by a different drum? I’ll blend in kick samples for fast double bass but have always avoided snare samples for this reason.

@wallsdownstudios4112 8 месяцев назад

Gotta print your samples. Set your drum replacement software for the hard hits, then go through with a lower threshold and print the ghost notes. Always works better when you have a multi-velocity sample. It's tedious and a bit annoying but it makes all of the difference. Especially on something as dynamic as a snare.

@theopinson3851 8 месяцев назад

@@wallsdownstudios4112 don’t you get a ton of false hits from mic bleed?

@mikeweiser2210 7 месяцев назад

Usually what I do is create another empty track below your snare track, find all your ghost notes, cut and drag them down to the second track. This way you have more adjustability to manipulate the volume and also eq it differently from the main track. Either that or you can also automate your threshold line to drop down to the ghost notes then bring the threshold line back up to the harder hits. I’ve used trigger 2 for years, but will work with any drum replacer

@wallsdownstudios4112 7 месяцев назад

@@theopinson3851 not really. I'll put an EQ before the triggering software during this process to hone in on the fundamental of the drum if i'm having an issue. But I do have to tweak the threshold while printing the ghost notes. So one pass through with the main hits at a high threshold, then just punch in the ghost notes at a lower threshold.

@papakefis4252 7 месяцев назад

Sorry but nothing in this tutorial is really " clear" ... beyond the drummer's playing. In my opinion Eric is not explaining anything about mixing, he just mixing Infront of a camera. Sorry...not what I was expecting from a real professional.