I ran a Head-rig like that for 15 years, I really miss it . 56'' bottom saw 38'' top saw .I would have appreciated those two edger saws , and my rig was left hand feed ,log turner and infeed deck on the right . Thanks for the memories .
I have logged in the field and worked almost every machine in a sawmill. I really appreciate it. The smells, the beauty of the wood. If I were still able to I would still be working with it.
Impressive sawing. I no longer encounter sawing techniques like this. But everything is operated automatically in one line. Good job, keep up this impressive technique 👍👍👍
White oak is Supreme wood. Good for lining the bed of say an old Ford or Chevy truck. Imagine a custom home built from white oak 4x4's. Far too costly.
Seems some people forget that the lumber cut here will go thru more steps before being finished. Its rough sawn lumber like this. I love the blade cut marks in the wood comparde to bandsaw cutting.
Thank you! Good followers and people that truly understand the industry leave good comments like this! And I’ve always thought the same about the sawmarks!! Bandsaw marks are generic. And every one of those 4/4 boards is going to get finished out at 13/16’s inches. I’m glad you understand that.
Thank you!! And I wasn’t trying to make it seem like that was actual speed. But this one is speed up so viewers don’t get bored! It apparently worked. But if you go back on the channel, you’ll see plenty normal speed!
That was kinda cool. Sawed and edged in one pass so no extra handling at the edger. Thumbs up and I'm going to go schedule a couple more vids at yer channel.
❤I think it would be be great if you could shoot a Video from the front or the side where you load the timber logs so we can see the electric motors for the horizontal blades cutting the rims of the planks, many of our friends here do not understand how it works ❓
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I get what you're saying about the top /bottom saw alignment being difficult to get perfect. Always wondered why I see a step on wide lumber. Kind of seemed like it should have been planed out.
It got sent to the grade lumber outlet. They run every board through sanders and planers. When we do grade lumber, we just get the logs turned into boards. Now we have milling equipment for doing smaller projects
So it may appear that way! This is an older video. The saws are always aligned and shims are never used! However, when that bottom saw is sharp, the top of the blade leans inward. And the tip of the bottom saw is getting pushed out. This causes an overlap. However, you’ll find in the video I uploaded earlier on that big poplar, that over lap is barely noticeable;)
Love your videos. . It is fascinating to see both the vertical and horizontal blades cut a finished product in one pass. I noticed what looks like saw marks on the boards, is that typical of a vertical circular saw blade cut ? And is their some computer tech involved in adjusting the blades or is done manually ?
Yes the circular marks on the log and the boards are typical. As the teeth life go down the marks become less aggressive. As you could imagine, as you file a tooth, it gets narrower, and cuts less aggressively over the course of its life
Oh I assure my guide pins are always correctly aligned and I keep my teeth filed straight across. Where the bottom of the saw enters is correct. But our motor is larger than a typical saw. And due to the increased rpms, it likes to lean in a little bit when the saw is buried. If my feed rate was quicker it would do it even worse. I’ll make a video on it some time. But when you see cuts that don’t look aligned with the bottom and tops saws, it’s not about alignment. When you catch them running together under different circumstances, the alignments are different all the time. The saws behave differently with different species, widths, lengths, which end of the log is facing the saw when it’s put on, etc.
Yes I understand what your saying about the saw wanting to cut in like that , What I meant was the cut pattern on the bottom saw looks very rough like a few of the saw teeth are mis aligned that is all . Hard to see from a video. It dose look like you have plenty of power . Years ago when I used to saw white oak all we had was a 401ci. Case diesel power unit with a 52`` saw ,it did good but you had to feed pretty slow with the old Lane mill. @@Helmsburgsawmill
I shave for log tension but that isn’t my reason in this case! Anytime I flip a log to another side I have to re-establish my cut. It’s all manual. This is an unconventionally large log, and normally I’m not flipping them that many times. Usually I never come back to a side
I would sir but unfortunately I can only do flat cut. I can’t quarter the logs because the edger box won’t allow the clearance. However I can tell you flat cut has a different grain compared to quarter sawn
Correct! It came from the heart of Brown County Indiana. That was a top log. We sold the first 25’ of it to a veneer buyer. Brown County Indiana grows some of the best White Oak in the world
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Thanks for sharing! Why do you sometimes stop the log during sawing and move it backwards? As a week-end woodworker i've always heard not to do this on my table saw for safety reasons. No safety issue or risk of damage on your hardware ? I guess nope and i'm curious to hear from you 😊
The guide pins are set where they should be. The adjustment doesn’t help with the top of the saw. And if it’s sharp, the teeth grab and pull the top of the saw deeper into the log. If I would’ve went faster, it would’ve been even worse. You can’t really avoid it with exceptionally big logs
Go read some of my comments about saw alignment. You see this comment on a lot of sawmill videos with too saws. It’s has nothing to do with saw alignment.
This company should spend some bucks and invest in a scanner, computer and computerized setworks. then the backstand will always zero out with better grade recovery. I worked in sawmills in British Columbia all my working life and it's amazing what technology can do.
Ya that’s what I thought. Sawing soft woods is a completely different thing vs sawing hardwoods. Ask anyone who’s sawn big white oak, how a bandmill does😂
All that effort to make the return go like hell, then you throw the time you gained away by talking shim after shim ? Your setworks can't be that sloppy
Thank you!! And I only kept flipping it because it was so big. As cool as it is to make big wide boards, I’d much prefer to flip it a couple of times so my outer boards can be smaller
Stress comes out of the log as it is opened up and the cant changes shape , the skim cut is to square up the cant so the boards are all close to the same thickness .
Thank you fellas! We’ve been in business for over 50 years😂 not by making RU-vid videos haha. Both of your responses are completely accurate! Also. The tension releases you’re speaking of is even greater on the longer stuff! And if I have a block made, and for some reason I have to shut everything off and fire back up with an incomplete log, even if I don’t see a shift, I’ll still re shave it. And not even consider listening to any uniformed comments. Feel free to respectfully counter act any un-educated comments fellas. It’s hard to explain it to every person
And yes! I’m trying to take the best boards from each side to get a better grade! It’s no secret this is a lower quality log. It’s just large. The first 25’ of this tree was sold to a veneer buyer
Go check out my cabin if you think it makes a terrible finish😂 And also I’m assuming your ignorant to the fact that every board we sell as grade lumber, goes through a refining process🤣🤣 The ones who watch my channel know that’s not finished
@@Helmsburgsawmill why ? I know how a mill works ... this is meant for a diferent result .... that log would be much happyer with a classic bamd saw mill . Like for example M. Cremona ...