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After a rather mild winter its time to get the ram pump back up and running. Looks like we will be digging out some silt and finding the screen intake.
In my Hydraulic Ram Pump setup I have a screen intake that pulls water in to feed the system. This is made from 3" pvc pipe with holes drilled into it. I then take window screen and wrap it around the pipe. The water that comes into this pipe travels down a supply line to the next stage of the system.
The Bucket intake is a very important part of the ram pump build. This allows for an air free water source and keep a lot of silt out of the pump. To make this bucket I simply let water from the supply line dump into the top of the bucket. The I use a product called Uniseal to install the drive pipe midway up the bucket. One the bottom I have a drain plug that lets me drain the silt. The extra water empties the bucket and goes back to the creek.
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The water travels down the drive pipe. This is a 1" poly pvc pipe to match the size of ram pump that I have installed. The more ridged the drive pipe the better the water hammer effect will be and the higher you can lift water.
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The water tanks on top of the hill are supplied by water on the bottom. I like this setup as long as the non return valve is working.
Lastly I have a poly pipe traveling down the the garden spot so that I can use the water in an irrigation setup.
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@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

You can get a ram pump on Amazon: amzn.to/3dVEGqL and at Land To House: www.landtohouse.com/rampumpsales

@ditchygipiko2145 4 года назад

Hey Seth how far your storage Tank from your Ram pump thank you

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Horizontal distance is approximately 400 ft. The vertical lift is about 35 ft.

@tadpole4973 3 года назад

@@LandtoHouse What size pump do you have on your setup? Would the 1/2 inch push that distance?

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

I use a 1" pump. The horizontal distance is no issue. The vertical lift is the limiting factor.

@inhisimage777 3 года назад

Can you talk about using pex pipe to eliminate the 45s in your set up?

@smecho 2 года назад

You can keep the tubing from slipping off by alining you hose clamps and wrap a copper wire around the clamp housings in a figure 8 style and twist tight. I started doing this 10 years ago and never had any slip off since.

@jllaine 3 года назад

Test suggestion: when you cleared the silt and restarted the pump, you showed the water in the clear pressure cylinder moving about 2 inches vertically. So that suggests a test: how short of a pressure tank can you use and the pump still works? I'll wager 6 inches with no loss of delivery flow. I'd suggest that you add another elbow below that broken ball valve you used for extending the supply pipe deeper into the bucket, so the water swirls in a circle around the bucket. Any leftover bubbles will surface more quickly and stay away from the drive pipe and it will allow more sediment to settle, like a cyclone vacuum cleaner.

@GermanShepherdRanch 4 года назад

I’m home studying 80 acres in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas. I have a fresh water spring down my canyon. It’s a year-round spring and it puts out about 10 times the amount of water that you have. Year round. The canyon is pretty steep and normally have 400 feet of vertical elevation. I think it would be amazing to he’s a rim pump and feeder pipes to go from large to small. I don’t know if I can do it but the math seems to add up to me. I really appreciate your videos.

@CommentsAllowed 4 года назад

13:26 Makes sense! I knew that from the bottom or from the top was the same when the water level is at the top. However, I didn't think about the fact that if you start at the bottom, you can take advantage of needing less energy as it works it way to fill the tank. Cool!

@echozero7352 3 года назад

i think ill prefer feeding the tank at the top and with float valve

@chrisjohnson1715 3 года назад

Im not sure it does, the head pressure from 3 barrels will be so much more than just filling from the top so i'd wager its slower to fill from the bottom like that, unless the non return valve makes that much of a difference. Would be cool to see a video on how much it slows down when filling from the bottom/top over time.

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

Good video idea! I will film that this week. My guess is that it is 10 minutes faster from the bottom.:)

@patrickhoffmann8893 3 года назад

Haha, you really must love your sandals @1:31, but after "probably should wearing shoes, but I've got sandals on" mostly comes "I am sick".

@niklar55 3 года назад

If you put the cycle tube into the pressure pipe, with the valve through the top cap, you could adjust the pressure at will to suit requirements.

@finscreenname 4 года назад

I so wish had a resource like this. A water source and elevation drop. At the highest point of my property I would build a nice holding pond and at the lowest I would have a turgo.

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Micro hydro is coming for the channel. The hill behind me has 150 foot of drop and 20gpm. At the end of the video that just went live I have a sneak peek of the first intake :)

@domenicozagari2443 2 года назад

If you put a transparent pipe outside the tanks you can see how much water you got.

@Miio. 3 года назад

Im a kid but im really interested in these videos these are really good !

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

Never too young to learn new things like this. Thanks for watching.

@lucasbills9016 Год назад

Great job of explaining it. Thanks!

@r1madbrit 3 года назад

Hahaha. Glow in the dark dude like me eh? But you live in the land of waterproof safety boots man! Stumbled on this and have recommended to friends as so many are off-grid fans now. I have a house in Italy and was wondering if it could help me as natural mountain streams abound. You are welcome to visit anytime as I like your knowledge and your personality. All the best mate!

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

That water is cold ... takes the color right out of my feet. ... It would be fun to travel but I have not been going very far lately.

@maximoincognito4881 4 года назад

You proved already that stainless steel swing valve it is much better than made of brass

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes! The SS valves are great for reduced wear.

@chrisstaylor8377 Год назад

Easy as to make these rams ,

@davidhelfrich7150 4 года назад

Amazing how a winter and rainy Tuesdays will affect the ram pump system. 🦀

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Grrr... rainy tuesdays... all Tuesdays...this year was actually not terrible for winter.

@bobhogan2828 3 года назад

Got my Ram pump from you up and running. Love it, fun!!

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

Nice! Happy its working well. The ram pump is fun!

@BodilBukspytt 3 года назад

Awsome video! The helicopter(or whatever XD) in the background at ~12:30 sounded like an ominous soundtrack. hehe

@Skyliner_369 3 года назад

I remember you saying something about closing a valve too fast and I wanted to recommend a simple solution to avoid any extra water-hammer damage to your piping. that'd be a spigot. specifically, one with a screw-valve in stead of a 90 degree ball valve.

@altafqadri1797 3 года назад

Thank you so much for these awesome videos. I was wondering if you have a video explaining how to store the water, storage tanks and non return valves. Best A

@savagebeast3276 4 года назад

You should stack the ram pump up on some concrete block so then it cannot get drowned underwater

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes that's true! I hope to remove a section of the flume. Then I will have room for that.

@azlannakamoto7913 4 года назад

Thank you ram pump master

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Haha you are welcome.

@stuartevans6807 4 года назад

If you replace the elbow in your bucket with a T you would create a "solids lifting overflow" they use them in aquaponics so you dont need to drain the bucket

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

I've heard of those. Never have made one. Do you have a link to a video? Probably worth installing

@stuartevans6807 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bmzgANTGJ0k.html

@davebean2886 4 года назад

@@stuartevans6807 Thanks - I couldn't visualize either - the video helped - just a pipe inside starting near the bottom that pulls from the bottom leads to the output pipe from inside. In my case, I'd prefer the fish go back into the stream so don't need the strainer on the output side.

@MultiKlompen 4 года назад

YES, ram pump season starts

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Woop woop. Now I just have to make it happen with two little kids.

@MultiKlompen 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse 2 little Kids ... i know ... i know ;-))

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Haha.

@koehlehlers9234 4 года назад

Thanks a bunch for your knowledge man, the few videos I've seen so far have been a wealth of knowledge. I started working on a project to water and power a small vegetable garden and was curious if something like a Tesla valve could be added to your feed line to redirect that pressure forward and optimize your lift to your tanks?

@saifuladlimahmud8986 4 года назад

Hello my teacher, I hope you and your family keep safe about the covid19.. Me from Malaysia has thankfully about your video and so very helpful. #learnandlearn #thanksteacher

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Thank you. Yes we are well so far. I hope you are also keeping safe.

@darthgbc363 4 года назад

Idea - Build a silt removal stand pipe to replace bucket. Should increase head pressure at pump. Clear would be cool, but not necessary. Bottom - 4" pvc cap, drill to fit a brass pipe & ball valve, drain 5' of 4" pvc pipe laying horizontal, vertical if there is room 4" pvc coupler 4" to 2" pvc flush bushing Short piece of 2" pvc pipe 2" pvc 90° elbow horizontal to vertical 12" of 2" pvc pipe vertical 2" x 2" x 1 1/4" pvc Tee Inlet 1 1/4" to 1" NPT pvc bushing Inlet 24" of 2" pvc pipe vertical 2" x 2" x 1 1/4" pvc Tee Outlet 2" to 1 1/4" pvc bushing vertical 10' of 1 1/4" pvc pipe vertical vent, longer if needed

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

That would work. In my area I only have to drain the silt a couple times a season. The bucket gives a simple solution for people who dont do a lot of pvc stuff.

@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 4 года назад

I guess we are on the same schedule! :) At 13:00 where you talk about elevation and pressure, I have a video out on that explaining PSI, pressure, site calculations and the like (called "The Ram Pump Design Manual *Calcs Pressure Elevation Measurements Sizing Operation*). Keep up the great work Seth! Looking forward to your Ram videos for 2020!

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes it's that time of year! I wonder if a nylon washer, or metal for that matter, would keep your valave from wearing down into the valve?

@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 4 года назад

I had a nylon washer on there before, it actually took a beating pretty quick. I think I need a few stainless washers to take up the shock. That brass is so soft.

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

And with several million Cycles in a year's time that brass just Falls away

@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse Fortunately this is the harder of the two brass types, but yes it is wearing over time. I'm actually amazed it is in it's third year now. The swing check valves I started with only lasted months.

@jacobchandler2083 4 года назад

Looks like the tank is full of silt

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

sadly its algae growing in the clear pvc tank.

@jacobchandler2083 4 года назад

Land to House do you think if you put a 90 pointing up on the drive pipe in the bucket would keep silt out better. Algae should come out simply enough i think

@savagebeast3276 4 года назад

You should use a 45 on your input running to the tanks so the pipe does not snap

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes indeed! I also need to bury the poly pipe.

@mutantgenepool 3 года назад

16:30 11 psi / 0.433 = 25.5 feet head pressure.

@JudgeD-hc9vw 4 года назад

Why not go with a 3 or 4 inch drive pipe? Seems like it would push a 2 inch or 1 inch pipe of water, a long way.

@mikeramlochan6351 3 года назад

I love your video can you use a rem pump from a deep well about 14 feet

@paddytransplantor6380 3 года назад

Hello u discus a lot on topic ,if got time think on built material of nrv may be it should need some important charecterstics? Bye.

@jangajunga7839 4 года назад

Why do you pump some air-filled things like balls and bicycle tire into the pressure valve? What purpose do those serve - to relieve the stress on the cylinder, caused by the high pressure and its frequent changes?

@OwenBerg 4 года назад

Would it be worth adding a soak line to that overflow from your barrels? It could be used to gently water the grass on the slope you were struggling with behind/in front of the house without washing the seed away - and it'd be a 2 for 1 in terms of using the extra water!

@kevinthemayor 4 года назад

Love it! Thank you! Could I do this with a rain barrel as water source, want to water my garden barrels passively? Thanks!

@calibratedindigo1338 3 года назад

Yes, just make sure to have a drop from the barrel to the pump

@kevinthemayor 3 года назад

@@calibratedindigo1338 thanks

@pprattpratt 3 года назад

Silly question, I want to use my pond as a water supply for livestock, ITS APROX 300 yards from the pond to the pen, water will have to go over a levee before starting down to the pen which also will be having to flow slightly uphill, would I be able to have a float valve on the water tank to stop water flow then when the float drops to allow it to fill again, would the ram pump still pump water for the tank or would we have to restart the pump each time? I hope I explained that right..lol

@thomasweber2310 4 года назад

filling storage tanks from the bottom ??? what about the head pressure in the tanks

@andybarnes9847 4 года назад

Do you have a video in regard to using a ram pump to deliver water to a trough from a pond, eliminating waste/preventing erosion from waste and being able to somehow recycle the waste water without a creek nearby?

@traisjames2 3 года назад

To save tubing, why not combine the lines from the garden area to the tanks?

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

In this install that would work! Often times people pipe the output to another place so it would not makes sense.

@macgyverb 3 года назад

I have no flowing water but a do have a hand pumpwell to a 300gl tank that on a hill 3ft higher then my garden. would rhe ram pump work if hooked to my 300gl tank the water my garden?

@JamesMacpherson1 4 года назад

Hey Seth Have you used a in line brass spring check valve for a non return valve? Do they work ok?

@androidusar772 4 года назад

4 HRS WO HOOO THE EARLIEST I HAVE BEEN

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Haha not too bad! Especially considering my post times are all over the place.

@stephendaly5089 4 года назад

Hello Seth! Awesome videos. Would it be a bad idea to use 1/2" drip irrigation tubing for the drive pipe? I'm purchasing it in bulk and was hoping that it could double for this purpose.

@imtiazhussain2924 3 года назад

Y did u put the sycale tube n 2 d sylander pipe?pls explain d function of tube.

@abderrahimabderrahim3959 4 года назад

Hi;am from morocco.i want to purchase this ram pump but amazon can't distrube it.anyway i have some questions plz: 1:i have a river near to farm but it's down and farm is up.the distance is about 100 meters.and high about 7 meters.what is the easiest way to benifit from that source witout using electricity i mean freely. 2:a wide well about 2meter.the depth about 13 meters. I need a very easy way to bring water freely (ram pump)or using a high tank of water 3:i have a narrow well about 20 centimeter.and depth about 200 meters.what is the best idea to benifit from water to farm which is not far at all in this case.thank u so much for answers

@jadz684z 4 года назад

Pointing to the right pipe this time lol. Jokes aside this is cool to wacth

@MikeSheasheaDtree 4 года назад

So do you have to turn off the water in from the pump @14:15 to open the water for to garden? Seems like if you had them open at the same time ...I dont know...?

@ditchygipiko2145 4 года назад

Hell you missed showing us your.inner tube to your Ram pump

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

That will have to be in a later video.

@jimlarosee8899 4 года назад

I have a question that may just come from my own ignorance of ram pump designs. Why not just fill the bucket feeding the stand pipe directly from the flume? The bucket is open to atmosphere, so I can’t see the benefit of using the uphill collection system. It seems like the vertical drop from the bucket to ram pump would be the same.

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes that would be the same vertical drop. I primarily wanted to install the pump this way because 99.9% of the world doesn't have a flume. I wanted to show how a full system would be installed

@Ratownsel 4 года назад

I have a question do you have to have fall from the source to create the presser? Like I live on a lake and my house is about 15’ above the lake so I don’t have any fall to start off with. Can I still get this to work?

@mdafcker 4 года назад

At 9:36 the cylinder gets filled with dirty water when you released the one way valve. Does that clear up as the pump got going or did you have to remove the cylinder?

@lynnsalsman9849 4 года назад

Would it be possible to use a ram pump using a rain bucket as the water source?

@JonnnyStorm 4 года назад

thank you so much for these videos! I have a question, will increased head, something like a 10ft drop, produce more gallons per minute outflow?

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Thank you for watching! The output does increase with more head pressure. Until the back pressure is not great enough to keep the pump running.

@sophalkin5528 Год назад

Has to be a running water?

@MikeSheasheaDtree 4 года назад

Also, what kind of elevation do YOU have there, ram to tower?

@AlphaNerd132 4 года назад

Wow, it's strange to see someone excited about 11psi. I'm so used to my city 90psi. I can just use my hose as a mild pressure washer with the right tip.

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

The ram pump is a low flow low psi pump. but does not use fuel or electricity. I actually got 80 psi out of a ram pump test this week.

@AlphaNerd132 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse Exactly. Also, was that 80PSI built up (closed system building pressure)? Because if you can get an itty bitty ram pump to create that much pressure, you an get that up a hell of an incline.

@santos8196 4 года назад

love ur work... i have a question: can a ram pump be added on water well escape pipe?

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

The ram pump needs to have an open-air water source. Is your overflow pipe open to the air?

@santos8196 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse yes. it is... the water never goes over it and has steady flow .... the pipe has 50 ft lenght 11ft height at output(downhill).

@geoffreykail9129 4 года назад

don't you loose head by having the silt collection tank half way down your feed pipe?

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Yes about 1 foot. But with 7 feet of head pressure lifting to 35 feet is not an issue.

@mikeburrill779 3 года назад

Can a ram pump run with tap water. My house has low pressure and 2 story in Mexico

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

The ram pump needs an open to air water source. It does not work on tap water.

@ScottHz 3 года назад

You can use your tap water to fill a supply bucket, but then you need a drop from the supply bucket to the ram pump (like he shows here). Then you should be able to pump 5-7 times as high as the drop from the supply to the ram pump. Not sure what you would do with the ‘waste’ from the supply (what comes out of the check valve)?

@ThomasLaCroix0 3 года назад

Where did you buy that clear pvc? I haven't been able to find a place to buy a couple feet of 2" pvc.

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

I actually found this on ebay.

@echozero7352 3 года назад

instead of wasting the water in the exit pipe why not feeding it to a new ram pump

@davebean2886 4 года назад

Which pressure gauge have you found works the best and does not cloud up on you? Thanks

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

I typically just use this super cheap rainbird gauge. It does cloud up though.

@RianLakeTv 4 года назад

Whats the height difference between the water Ram pump and your main water storage ?

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Mine is 35 feet height between the pump and tanks.

@RianLakeTv 4 года назад

Land to House there’s 200 feet difference between my water source and my tank , i was thinking of making it by stages using multiple ram pumps with a water storage in between. Do u think it will work?

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

It is certainly possible to do that. You have to run the lower pump until the mid tank is done. Then run II pump from that mid tank. It will be slow going but it can work. Sadly you won't be able to run both pumps at the same time 24/7. The second pump will use more water than the first one can deliver.

@BovineDevine 3 года назад

Can a ram pump work in winter?

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

It can work in winter but if the water stops flowing it will freeze and bust.

@globalwarninguk 3 года назад

sorry lost you at the word "and"

@r1madbrit 3 года назад

White socks and plastic sandals to work in a stream? Dude, what were you thinking when you set out to make this viseo?! Your wife doesn't help sort you out? Hahahahaha, Good explanations, pity about the fashion malfunctions. Hahaha. Well done overall.

@LandtoHouse 3 года назад

Dude... that's the color of my skin. Haha 😄

@ditchygipiko2145 4 года назад

Hey Seth Just wodering what size of Ram pump are you using,and how Long is your Drive pipie Thank you

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

My personal Ram pump is 1 inch. The drive pipe is approximately 50 ft long

@davebean2886 4 года назад

@@LandtoHouse Thanks - you gave most of the stats in the video, but do you know how much water is being lifted to your tank (coming out of your overflow pipe)?

@davebean2886 4 года назад

Thanks for the video - I really liked how it showed how you are actually using your ram pump, the considerations of starting up after the winter and how you are using the water for your tank and eventually garden from the gravity feed. Can't wait to see how well the wobbler works and if that works out better than a drip system with your 11 PSI. Pretty neat how you calculated the lift height with the pressure gauge. I linked back to your video from the ram pump discussion: facebook.com/groups/240458583255303/permalink/521060315195127/ Any thoughts about also selling parts that you use anyway? Probably can't afford to ship unless some might order several or include with an order. Thanks for linking to the seal in the video - I was going to ask about that. Do you have a favorite source for the clear PVC that is useful for testing, but I gather might have issues with algae growth if used continually - on the other hand - we could see it. I've watched almost all of your ram pump videos and many multiple times. Thanks - Dave P.S. - my 1 1/4 ram pump from Land To House is currently sitting my my desk and I refer to it when watching the videos.

@kosongdua2199 4 года назад

please attach Indonesian text so that Indonesian people understand ok

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

Sadly I don't know Indonesian text.

@tommyschauer3093 4 года назад

HI HE IS A RU-vid SIGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE. ( ARCHIMEDES HYDROPOWER SCREW GENERATOR ) BY - ( SIGN MONKEY ) ON DEC. 27 2016 . IT IS SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. KEEP UP VIDS.

@ne555timer6 4 года назад

🤔

@khushiman7857 3 года назад

How mani fit top thoro water

@ne555timer6 3 года назад

@@khushiman7857 idk man

@ne555timer6 3 года назад

I didn't test yet

@Splungers 4 года назад

It would be interesting to see just how high the fill pipe going in the tanks will lift, and raise the tanks accordingly, increasing line pressure to the garden pressure to maximum.

@LandtoHouse 4 года назад

The ram pump has a head pressure of 7 feet. This means that the lift would stop at around 50 feet. The tanks are at 35 feet roughly.