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Starting Chess as an Adult: How Good Can You REALLY Get? 

Dr. Can's Chess Clinic
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@squirrelsquirrel9421
@squirrelsquirrel9421 11 месяцев назад
I learned chess at 47 and at 59 I am rated 1850 USCF. I’ve had a lot of success really.
@altrfryd5859
@altrfryd5859 11 месяцев назад
2000 would be nice
@SpontaneityJD
@SpontaneityJD 11 месяцев назад
😂
@Australianchessplayer
@Australianchessplayer 11 месяцев назад
That's pretty decent. My chess has been interspersed with long breaks. I played at school (no organised club), and in my last year at a club where I was one of the better players, but there were no ratings. That was 65. Then none until the late 80s where I took up club chess in Melbourne, Australia. My initial rating was 1152, a bit lower than my USCF rating would have been. One thing I found interesting, I came equal second in a club championship with a performance 1800+ with games played Wednesday evenings, and in a tournament in aother club with games on Friday evenings and my performance around 1300. I blame the mass of underrated juniors depressing the ratings of senior players.
@altrfryd5859
@altrfryd5859 11 месяцев назад
@@Australianchessplayer You are still only a 1152...
@musicdecoratestimewhitenoi6714
@musicdecoratestimewhitenoi6714 3 месяца назад
I got about 6 mins into this video when I saw you comment....saved me 12 mins!-)
@proust56
@proust56 Год назад
I think I may be the latest starter in history. I started in 2021 at age 65 while still working full time as a criminal defense lawyer. Due to my workload, I could only play about one or two games online per week, and now I'm right around 1090-1100 and struggling. Still, I love the game and now that I have more time want to concentrate on study methods. Looking forward to more of your videos.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
What an inspiring comment! It is never too late to start playing/improving at chess. I will surely add more videos that you will find relevant. Speaking about the criminal defense, you may like my Chessable course "Chess Crime and Punishment" :) www.chessable.com/chess-crime-and-punishment/course/116052/
@Beery1962
@Beery1962 11 месяцев назад
I think everyone struggles around this level. The key, I think, is to eliminate one's blunders. If you can figure out why you're blundering (whether it's a matter of losing focus, not seeing more than the next move, not taking into account your opponent's plans, or missing traps that you might be falling into), you can find ways to overcome the issue and advance. I'm 61, so I'm close to your age and I've been around the 1000-1100 level for some time, and I'm just beginning to really see where I'm going wrong. Also, I tend to get really frustrated about my losses, but in the last couple of days I've started to work on having a better attitude towards my defeats - Dr. Can mentions this in the video, and I think it's great advice.
@Beery1962
@Beery1962 11 месяцев назад
Don't get discouraged - I think 1100 is still a far better rating than most people we meet who only dabble in chess. I was shocked when my daughter mentioned that her college friends thought I was some kind of chess genius because I routinely play at around the 1100 level and my highest ever rating was 1244. I suspect the average rating for those who don't play chess regularly is around 500. So most people you meet outside of chess circles are nowhere near our level.
@IvanBaAl961
@IvanBaAl961 11 месяцев назад
@@Beery1962 Blunders is a thing to work with but the most important thing is your strategy. You can eliminate at least obvious blunders if you take enough time to think, but you can't win a high level game without any plan. Besides, a reliable plan itself decreases probability of blunders. There is some fun to play dangerous game though. It's not to avoid at all cost.
@yakkyuu12
@yakkyuu12 11 месяцев назад
Sorry, I beat you. I started at 66. I really don’t care, about the age thing! I love this game! I learned just basics of how pieces moved at 10, never got back to it, just like you. There were MANY OTHER PRIORITIES. Now, as I have time, the history, the GREAT craftsmanship of pieces and the study lends so much to learning!! That learning is what it’s all about! So play on! I have actually beaten players above 1700( not often!) Just keep learning and ENJOYING the other aspects, history and craftsmanship of so MANY different sets!!
@alexblue6991
@alexblue6991 Год назад
My age 71yr a complete beginner for me it's about having fun and trying to keep my brain active
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Inspiring! Improvement should not be the only goal of engaging in chess.
@jonmcclenahan8379
@jonmcclenahan8379 Год назад
This caught my attention... because im 67 yrs old and believe it or not, i still want to improve! Learned to play at 11 but didnt ever really study until recently. I've come to realize i don't have the passion to pursue it properly... trying to get better at pattern recognition (got all four of your puzzles right, so happy to say) ... trying to have fun (it's a GAME) ... but still sad when i lose.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you for sharing this. It is never too late to improve at chess. Good that you are trying to learn those patterns and chunks! :) And yes, do not forget to have fun!
@jeffreyperdue1606
@jeffreyperdue1606 11 месяцев назад
I started playing at 30 because of queens gambit in january 2021. Before that i knew how the pieces moved and had played a handful of games against family but zero knowledge of anything more. I was able to get to 1200 relatively quickly and am currently sitting at 1650 online and 1300 OTB (uscf). The biggest down side to starting around my age is the time constraints. Having children and working constantly leaves limited time to study, usually really late after everyone is asleep. Finding time to go to tournaments is the main limiting factor in slow OTB rating gain. Overall i feel i will eventually hit expert (2000-2199) but it will take many years at this rate.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your inspiring comment! Can you please briefly tell me how your training looked like when you quickly reached 1200 (online I assume)?
@jeffreyperdue1606
@jeffreyperdue1606 11 месяцев назад
@Dr.CansClinic once I hit about 1100 I decided I wanted to take this somewhat seriously so I joined my local club and hired a coach. He got me on books and a daily regiment of puzzles, endgames, general chess study, and openings. It took probably a year over the board to hit 1300 due to nerves and making stupid mistakes. I did however manage to win clear 1st at my local tournament at a rating of 1141, lowest ever to win. Now with my wife due in a few months with our 2nd, studying and chess in general has taken a back seat. I still try and study during lunch and breaks at work or late at night. Thank you for your videos and keep it up!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
@@jeffreyperdue1606 Thank you! An congrats on your great achievement in your local chess club!! I will keep them coming :)
@merluzacongelada5361
@merluzacongelada5361 11 месяцев назад
I started at 30 too, also got to 1300 pretty fast by doing essentially nothing other than playing and watching a few chess streamers casually. I feel like this is probably the best you can get as an adult without serious training.
@masonparkman5567
@masonparkman5567 Год назад
Great video Can! Glad to see you’ve revived the channel. Looking forward to whats next!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much Mason!
@supermario1123
@supermario1123 Год назад
Dr Can is the man! Such great content always. 😊
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thanks! :)
@kylezo
@kylezo 11 месяцев назад
interesting to think about neuroplasticity and how it relates to learning chess late. same goes for languages, musical skill, etc. i think research into neuroplasticity is one of the most exciting frontiers of neuroscience.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Definitely!
@natalyawoop4263
@natalyawoop4263 6 месяцев назад
Interesting stuff! I wonder how learning chess compares to learning a language
@kylezo
@kylezo 6 месяцев назад
@@natalyawoop4263 seriously I think it's really a lot of overlap.
@ariekorf4897
@ariekorf4897 2 месяца назад
Very concise and well presented. Thank you for the info!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 2 месяца назад
You're very welcome! Thank you for your kind words.
@Nick-fq3ys
@Nick-fq3ys Год назад
Keep em coming Can !
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Will do, thanks!
@susymay7831
@susymay7831 11 месяцев назад
Excellent material and great timestamps! ❤
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much!
@sallybrookner4158
@sallybrookner4158 11 месяцев назад
Next I’m going to watch videos on why I’ll never learn another language, never learn to play the violin, be a ballet dancer, or write the great American novel.
@chrisdavidson8525
@chrisdavidson8525 5 месяцев назад
Woohoo! Excited to fibd your channel - I have two of your chessable courses and they are gold. A lot of courses do not reach the level of instruction yours do and the fundamental positional concepts that impress me so much in professional games are all there, explained in simple terms. It is very cool - I am starting to look at chess like I actually understand it now.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 5 месяцев назад
You don't know how happy I get after such words. Thank you so much for your support ❤️🙏
@alexanderfrost2943
@alexanderfrost2943 Год назад
Really a great video. Totally makes sense.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you!
@christianringsmose392
@christianringsmose392 Год назад
Very nice video! Keep them coming :)
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thanks, will do!
@jaimecolodro1588
@jaimecolodro1588 11 месяцев назад
Good video mate
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@southernrun9048
@southernrun9048 11 месяцев назад
Our mistakes showing us pathway to improvement…amazing point. Great video
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you :)
@chess-is-life
@chess-is-life 11 месяцев назад
Watched fully, subscribed and you truly inspired a medium age player. Hats off mate. Thank you
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your encouraging comment! I am so glad that I have inspired you!
@joshuaday9069
@joshuaday9069 Год назад
Enjoyed the video, learned a few things and gained perspective! Also like your speech. If you may in the future make the videos louder, it would make it easier to enjoy.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much! And sorry for this technical issue as I am reawakening the channel. I need to learn chunks and patterns when it comes to improving on this technical side of things :)
@briandwi2504
@briandwi2504 11 дней назад
Thanks. Very interesting.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 дней назад
Glad you liked it!
@hooptron9
@hooptron9 Год назад
Love the video! Not many people know about Noctie AI -- I didn't before you showed me. It could be a good tool for adult improvers as well.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much for your kind comment.
@eschiedler
@eschiedler Год назад
Very good overview of a blend of cognitive science and practical application.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much. That is one of my overarching goals for this channel :)
@FullMoonHatch
@FullMoonHatch 11 месяцев назад
I just started playing chess in March 2023 and Im 50. My opening elo of 800 immediately dropped to 300.....now I am back at 700; I don't need to be a 2200 GM....but I do want to improve and I love the thought game!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment! The game is so beautiful, keep the passion and enjoy the journey!
@jaekn
@jaekn 11 месяцев назад
2200 is too low for a GM
@tylindell927
@tylindell927 Год назад
I started at 27 I'm 30 now and a 2000. I believe with study now I can achieve a 2400 someday. But I won't limit how high I may be able to go
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
That is some achievement, congratulations! Keep up the good work!
@tylindell927
@tylindell927 Год назад
@gehteuchnichtsan8306 I've been playing since 26. And which rating are we speaking about? Blitz? Classical? Bullet? Rapid?
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 11 месяцев назад
​@gehteuchnichtsan8306probably online rating not FIDE or USCF
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
@gehteuchnichtsan8306 . I improved from 1400 to 2000 online in three years as well. In 5 years I reached 2300 online. I still have huge knowledge gaps which I'm working on this year. I had zero professional help and limited formal training via books or courses. 2000 rating is not as impressive as you might think. I fully agree that 2400 FIDE is possible for adult learners, perhaps at the limit of possibilities, but it comes down to effort. My goal is 2200 USCF and I'm giving myself 1-2 more years to get there. Don't listen to anyone that tries to impose limits on you.
@joakimkempe2153
@joakimkempe2153 10 месяцев назад
There is a girl here on RU-vid who made it to 2000 rapid within two years so to do it within three years is absolutely achievable if you have some talent and put in the effort. @gehteuchnichtsan8306
@UnicycleSoul
@UnicycleSoul 10 месяцев назад
Well this channel has certainly been a welcome surprise find this year, very happy that you've rebooted it. Do you do individual coaching online perhaps, and if you do, do you take new students? Also, at what level would you say is it reasonable to get a coach ? For adult improvers, that is.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your encouraging comment. Such words give me big motivation to pursue this. You can contact me on lichess or chess.com for coaching. I would say around 900-1000 ELO is a good time, although you can obviously do it earlier as well. It also depends on the frequency of coaching and what kind of feedback you receive.
@Bassboin
@Bassboin 11 месяцев назад
great video
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@pauldudley1273
@pauldudley1273 Год назад
Nice video, I've been wondering what the key steps are in getting better besides just playing the game a lot. Seems that learning openings + theory, chess puzzles every day and pattern reccognition are all things that weave together to make a player better.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you! Yes, we need to work on several different areas to get better. Tactical training is very important. Basic endgames and internalizing the opening principles are also important.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
See my comments below for my thoughts on the matter.
@nicholass.
@nicholass. 10 месяцев назад
Thank you very much. It was very informative for me. I'm in my early 40ies, enjoying the game...
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 10 месяцев назад
Many thanks for your comment, glad it was helpful. The game is so beautiful indeed...
@jaybingham3711
@jaybingham3711 Год назад
Here's the good news: All human chess play is woefully deficient. And that is true even of titled players...including SGMs. Do a YT search of Carlsen blundering. He blunders. We all blunder. So it doesn't matter what level you reach. There is fun play to be had at all levels. In fact, the game is more enjoyable without the shackle of a title. If anything, you may want to strive for becoming good enough to play competent chess...most of the time. For classical time control, you start encountering that around 1600-1700. For rapid, 1200-1300. This kind of rating puts you in the upper quartile of all players. That's a respectable accomplishment. Particularly for someone who started the game late in life. At these levels, you will have what it takes to play very solid around a third of the time. And exceptionally around 5-10 percent of the time (a slash line of say 2/0/0 and an accuracy over 90). From there, all that you're doing is running down improvement in those percentages. A super outstanding accomplishment would be locking down the ability to play exceptionally well 50 percent of the time. The run between becoming respectable up to outstanding is probably the most fun you'll ever have with chess. From there, further incremental improvements will be extremely hard fought. We all are destined to reach a peak. And, again, all human peaks (including SGM) are deficient. In that regard, none should be taken too seriously. Play for the fun of it. Be happy for whatever peak you achieve. That's how to extract max value from such a (tedious) endeavor.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much for your inspiring comment! It is surely the journey that gives the most pleasure. One can get big joy by staying in the zone and overcoming desirable difficulties - without necessarily aiming to become a master level player.
@davidbatchelder85
@davidbatchelder85 4 месяца назад
Key elements. That is the truest statement
@Daniel_Dollinger
@Daniel_Dollinger Год назад
Excellent video. Focuses on the cognitive science where you are the expert. I am looking forward to seeing your training ideas/science for older adults.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you Daniel! I will surely make videos in the future regarding older adults.
@EliDollinger
@EliDollinger Год назад
Excellent video. While watching, a few questions came to mind. 1. In your opinion, what is the most effective and efficient way to accumulate chunks and patterns? 2. Is the 12-year-old cut off due to neural plasticity? If so, can activities that influence neural plasticity such as exercise shift that cut-off? 3. You mentioned that a possible explanation for chess mastery being achieved faster is an overall rise in general intelligence in the human population, to what extent does general intelligence carry over into chess intelligence? 4. In your opinion, what is the most effective and efficient way to learn the ideas and themes of openings? 5. How do you find the best classical games to study? Your idea regarding running an experiment to find the optimal training methodology is very interesting and is something that I would very much like to read.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much for this great input! They surely deserve a future video. I took a note of your questions.
@Flying_Scotsman_1921
@Flying_Scotsman_1921 11 месяцев назад
Started at age 30, but played a very small amount whilst younger. Went from about 800 elo to 1600 elo in rapid in 5 years, so now aged 35. I think I'm probably around the limit of what I can hope to achieve based on my current style of learning. I think it would be possible to progress further, but would take very large efforts.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your insights! Progress generally becomes more difficult on higher levels indeed. Can you please briefly mention how your training looked like when you progressed from 800 to 1600 in 5 years?
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
1600 is nothing. I'm older than you with a 2300 online rating. I also started at an older age than you are right now. If you're serious about chess and don't know how to progress get a coach that can at least point you in the right direction. See my comment below for my thoughts on improving to 2200 USCF or FIDE.
@Flying_Scotsman_1921
@Flying_Scotsman_1921 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic 800-1500 was done in the first 3 years, and this was by just constantly playing (Rapid and Blitz) nearly every day, but also by watching lots of chess videos on ratings climbs and also openings. At the year 3 point I joined a club, and have since then climbed another 100 elo. My approach has been somewhat the same, except now I do more puzzles and also player longer time control games and tournaments through the club. My feeling is that to then get past 1600 I would need to get a chess coach and brush up a lot of opening theory and endgame theory. However, the trouble is that I don't really have the time (and don't take chess that seriously, as also have other interests). So for me 1600 feels like a sort of limit unless I invested a lot more time and effort.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
@@Flying_Scotsman_1921 Thank you for taking your time and describing what you did during those years.
@Woodflooralchemist
@Woodflooralchemist 11 месяцев назад
I grew from 900 to 1550 Elo in rapid time control, Over probably last three years. I watched a lot of GM Finegold and various other GMs and IMs the saint Louis chess club brought in back in the day. Then when Gotham started making content I started really advancing but I have sort of plateaued for now. Looking for the next break through.
@madhatter-
@madhatter- Год назад
Interesting - greqat video - I've just taken up chess again having not played any chess since 2010. There are a few things I noticed instantly- There's A LOT of on-line chess. There are a lot of online players who will explain why they did what they did compared to 13 years ago. This might explain why there seem to be more young chess players with high ratings. The other thing I realised was - if I watch a good player play a few games explaining why and then go and play a game myself my board vision is much better and my accuracy goes up significantly. (I definately come under the heading of the older chess player - 30 is a distant memory :))
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much for this nice comment. I think you are right, seeing experts thinking out loud is a great way to learn also in other complex domains. I will surely discuss this in one of my future videos!
@andrewbarber8825
@andrewbarber8825 Год назад
Great news. Best of luck, not that you will need it. Your friend in Chess, Andrew from Ireland.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much Andy! Thank you for being part of this beautiful journey.
@chriszablocki2460
@chriszablocki2460 11 месяцев назад
Lucky from time to time. That's as good as I'll ever get.
@user-ot8bb3ng7o
@user-ot8bb3ng7o 11 месяцев назад
👏👏👏💯I think you a quiet spot on,but my experience of being self taught stated back in 70s ,I realized that it's what you study not how much, example when we begin to play,we live in a world of mistakes, which if not corrected, will follow you all through life,so I find it most important to begin to do things correctly from day one, when you are an absolute beginner you can start to understand pieces an their abilities, pawns an pawn tactics, Knight and knight tactics, bishops tactics ect an then begin to play,so as to unify the game in one's mind, after this you begin to play,then play with no knowledge opening books for 6 months , so one can use the little knowledge creatively, only after one can introduce books , due to love of chess, I continue to study,an surprise many ppl who compeat , who spends hours studying ,I only play computer ,as I never got the time take up chess full time
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment. Definitely interesting observations about uncorrected mistakes.
@souperdooper8732
@souperdooper8732 10 месяцев назад
What I learned from this video is to trust myself. I was able to pick out the solutions to the puzzles very quickly, but when I find myself in similar positions in my games I tend to doubt myself and find ways it won't work, and then I play something stupid like h3.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your feedback! I am happy that the video helped you gaining self-confidence!
@RayRay-mt6vb
@RayRay-mt6vb 11 месяцев назад
im 44 and just started a few weeks ago. I'm ranked 1200 and have lots to learn, but I think I really understand the concepts that im missing. I have very basic endgame pattern knowledge, I make lots of blunders particularly as the game gets older and more exchanges have occurred, and my calculation depth struggles past a few moves because the variations just get exponentially too many and I cant see what my opponent's best responses are. However I'm practicing an opening with white and black with analysis mode vs a fairly strong 2000 rated bot, and using take backs to explore patterns in those two openings, and getting quite good at finding the best or good moves before any exchanges occur. I'm getting better at getting a feel for when to initiate early exchanges and come out with an advantage, but still really struggle exploiting that advantage towards the endgame. I know i need to expand my opening variations, and work really hard on endgame ideas to become a much better player. Just subscribed. I'm looking for a group of similar players and a coach, though I cant afford to pay for lessons.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your response and the subscription! This channel will hopefully provide a good community for people like you. I am planning to do a live session at some point in the future, with questions from the viewers.
@KaneODriscoll
@KaneODriscoll 11 месяцев назад
I started playing for the first time ever at 42. Never too old to learn. And I have many different projects going on at the same time.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment! It is never too old to learn indeed!
@greggjahnke386
@greggjahnke386 Год назад
Congratulations on your chess and academic accomplishments. I think it would be an interesting cognitive science question to understand why learning is so difficult after age 40. I started at 40 and only got to 1600+ after 10 years. I asked two large tournament organizers if they could remember any player starting after age 40 that got to 2000. Neither could cite a single example. Good luck on your research
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you! I have noted down your question and will consider making a video about it in the future.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
I assure you (without giving away my age) that it can be done. You can go much higher than 2000 if you are determined enough. See my comment below for further thoughts on the matter. Don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.
@Guythatsometimescomments
@Guythatsometimescomments 11 месяцев назад
I started at age 30. My co-worker brought in a chess board and absolutely dominated so I thought it would be fun to learn the game and try to beat him. I bought some chess books, and also hired an online chess tutor. My starting ELO was around 1000. I had a goal to get to 1800 and got there in 2 years. What was interesting is it seemed like my rating would jump, plateau, jump, plateau...etc. Not really a smooth incline. I probably could have continued improving, but after I reached my goal I just started playing a ton of bullet games for fun and I completely stopped studying. After 1800 ELO it seemed harder and harder to improve my game so I just decided to have fun and not put in that much effort anymore. Great game.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your insightful comment! It is quite an achievement to jump from 1000 to 1800 in two years - despite all those plateaus. Can you please tell me a little how your training looked like during those 2 years? Chess can played purely for fun as well as you said :)
@darensweeney5925
@darensweeney5925 11 месяцев назад
Wow, this is a great video. The cognitive science is fascinating and, in a way, inspiring.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your encouraging comment!
@TerencePetersenAjbro
@TerencePetersenAjbro Год назад
I started at 55-56 and am probably an average player at club level now. I can beat players 1200 - 1600 on good days. Ser att du bor i Sverige också! Jag flyttade dit 2015.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thanks for the insight! Jag flyttade dit 2013 :)
@TerencePetersenAjbro
@TerencePetersenAjbro Год назад
@@Dr.CansClinic I have played in a few over the board tournaments in Västra Götaland, distriktserien. Väldig mysigt!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
@@TerencePetersenAjbro Vad bra! Jag spelar för Limhamn SK!
@micke7
@micke7 Год назад
vad sjuttsiken, är det en svensk kanal!
@2UnderstandDivinely
@2UnderstandDivinely 11 месяцев назад
I stated at exactly 30, but that was 8 years ago and I’ve peaked at about 1600 in slower time formats, and gotten my puzzle rating to 2500… whereas my blitz rating is significantly lower, generally in the 1100-1300 range. Problem is I love blitz 😂
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment! Blitz can be too much fun indeed! :)
@babstra55
@babstra55 11 месяцев назад
I started when I turned 30, had played around 5 games tops when I was a child. played daily correspondence chess and did 4-5 hour of tactics daily for first 2 years. got to 1800, then stopped doing tactics. over next few years consolidated that to 2000-ish with mostly playing 5-6h daily. but no serious training. I did dabble on a lot of stuff but it never got to a similar daily regiment as with tactics, and I don't think it made any difference as it was so sporadic. that was 17 years ago and I'm still exactly the same strength. even took an 8 year break starting from carpal tunnel syndrome, started chess again 2 years ago and was at ~2000 in two weeks. (also changed ALL my opening with no effect to strength.) the level of my chess understanding is still extremely shallow and my tactics are bad as well (I drop pieces almost every game and I rarely even count my pawns because they never decide my games). this I'm mentioning for all the lower rated who maybe think 2000s have some magical understanding, because we don't. we're very very bad at every part of the game, we've just done a 100,000 tactical problems more than you. so there's no magic trick here. you don't have to be smart, you don't have to read any books, you don't even have to know your openings. you just have to do the legwork, get the mileage done. which is the hard part. tldr: progress was fast as long as I trained hard daily. after I stopped torturing myself there's been zero progress. but also no loss in strength even after an 8 year break, so whatever you achieve is very hard to lose. it's like riding a bike.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot for taking your time and sharing your progress across the years.
@babstra55
@babstra55 11 месяцев назад
​@@Dr.CansClinic yeah no problem. I always try to do that because I remember how starting up I was looking for how others had gotten where they did, especially adult learners.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
Good points! I think you nailed the reason why most people in general, not just adults, plateau. You need instruction to fill in those knowledge gaps such as better understanding of strategic ideas, positional play, pawn play, endgame theory, and opening knowledge. Clearly, if you fill those knowledge gaps your rating will increase. But it depends on your effort. I see a lot of beginners commenting that they improved hundreds of points by doing x-training program. The truth is that beginners will improve by mere exposure to the game. 1800-2000 elo players is a different story. See my comments below on further thoughts on chess improvement.
@malcolmlowry6118
@malcolmlowry6118 Год назад
Very informative video. However, please increase the volume level as it's so low you need to increase device and player volumes to maximum in order to hear it properly.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you. I will fix this issue in my future videos.
@notthesonofwilliam788
@notthesonofwilliam788 Год назад
My current method of improvement strongly relies on virtual flashcards on Anki that I create from my own mistakes in my games. I take a screenshot of the position, ask myself on the front of the card why my chosen move was wrong and what alternative move I should have made, and add the correct moves and any relevant patterns and comments on the back of the flashcard. By repeating these flashcards in increasingly long intervals, I'm hoping to build the "chunks" and pattern recognition that I will need to progress. What is your opinion of this method? Have you heard of others using the same strategy?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
That sounds really interesting! You seem to combine corrective and epistemic feedback there! It is really great that you explain WHY that move was wrong. I don't know of anyone using this precise method. Please let me know about your progress in the future with this training!
@maksedits933
@maksedits933 Год назад
sounds like what the creator of chessable used to do. You may want to look him up
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
@@maksedits933 David Kramaley I believe?
@notthesonofwilliam788
@notthesonofwilliam788 Год назад
@@maksedits933 Thank you for the suggestion! I'll look him up and see what he was able to achieve using this method. :)
@notthesonofwilliam788
@notthesonofwilliam788 Год назад
@@Dr.CansClinic Thank you so much for giving your opinion! Can I ask what you mean by "epistemic feedback"? So far, I've managed to gain about 150 rating points on Lichess within a few weeks as a beginner and adult learner. I've found that the content and formatting of the flashcards makes a big difference and I'm still working on improving this. For example, I use the same position on the front and the back of the flashcard, but with arrows added on the back. The reason for this is that I want to be able to visualize the entire line (mostly about 2-6 moves) from the initial position in order to play correctly. I want to practice calculating a complete line before making a move. Sorry for rambling a little - I hope it's somewhat of interest :)
@davidblue819
@davidblue819 Год назад
I looked at that list of inspiring late improvers. It consisted largely of people who eked out some improvement in early adulthood, say around 20-21, but not the sort of improvement that children get. Chess looks very much like a language.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thanks for your comment. I have also noticed that pattern. Let's see whether that trend will change in the future by the help of all the technological tools at our disposal that may speed up the chess improvement!
@babstra55
@babstra55 11 месяцев назад
there are language learning schemes that get you fluent in months, real ones (in contrast to online scams), and what they have in common is they focus heavily on immersing you in the language and forcing to actually talk to people, while skipping over learning grammar and rules and theory. doesn't mean that you'll learn as quickly as small children, but it does show that a lot of these things CAN be forced on your brain even as adults. and that maybe rule/theory based learning isn't a very efficient way to learn things.
@princeofpeaceproductions3506
@princeofpeaceproductions3506 11 месяцев назад
Started at 54yo… got to 899 in a year.. 1000 is my goal..but I’m plateauing it seems… definitely can see why being younger is better
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment. Keep up the spirit! :) It is never too late to show progress.
@isaakvandaalen3899
@isaakvandaalen3899 Год назад
2000 is achievable by most people if you train well and stay focused, I do believe that. I'm 22 and I started playing about 2 years ago or so, and I'm currently pushing 1700. I'm not training super hard or rigorously, though I am spending probably on average 30 mins per day doing something chess-related, but it's showing great results. I'm certain I can hit 2000 within a year if I stay focused, and I think if you had more time to study you could do it even quicker.
@hypercubemaster2729
@hypercubemaster2729 Год назад
Is your rating online, or OTB? Online ratings can be as far lower than OTB as about 500-600 ELO.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thanks for this comment, and all the best wishes on your chess journey!
@isaakvandaalen3899
@isaakvandaalen3899 Год назад
@@hypercubemaster2729 My ratings are online in Rapid. I understand that OTB ratings are a few hundred points lower, so I'd expect to be around 1400 - 1500 OTB. I live about an hour away from my nearest chess club, so it's much easier for me to play and learn online.
@hypercubemaster2729
@hypercubemaster2729 Год назад
@@isaakvandaalen3899 Hey, that's great to hear! 1400-1500 in a couple of years is amazing progress!! Be proud! 😀
@Jefferson-ly5qe
@Jefferson-ly5qe 11 месяцев назад
That's good progress
@cryptosquirrel5667
@cryptosquirrel5667 11 месяцев назад
I am 71 now. I started chess at age 9 and tournament play when I was 18. I studied a lot and my rating slowly climbed to 1905 USCF before I stopped playing to focus on other things. I currently teach beginner chess at a local school. I love the game and follow the international tournament scene and watch a lot of chess content but I don't have a training regime or focused plan of improvement. I got all the answers correct in this video. I'm thinking of playing tournaments again with a goal of getting to FM level (2300 ELO). Any suggestions?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment! Really great that you keep the passion for the game. Setting goals is good, but perhaps we should not fixate on a specific rating like 2300. Just focusing on the process instead of the end result :) Playing tournaments is really a great start - you learn a lot in those otb tournaments.
@odinakauduma-stupendousmat749
@odinakauduma-stupendousmat749 8 месяцев назад
I love how you explained positional concept in "tactics alone won't make you a GM " I'm so glad you are sharing this.... I've been playing since secondary school. But I always knew that I can improve and do better
@tobiass3540
@tobiass3540 5 месяцев назад
I started at the age of 30, 4 and half years ago. I had a two breaks of not playing any chess for 6 months each and I actually didn't even train until last spring. I wanted to see, how far I can get, if I actually seriouslyy study and get a coach. My first rating 4 years ago was 1643, 1 year ago it was still 1650, but I obviously hadn't played much. With my last 2 tournaments (tournament 4 and 5 of my chess journey) I went from 1650 to 1781 FIDE. I definitely started improving a lot in the past 9 months. I think 2000 FIDE should definitely be doable. Maybe also something like 2200, if you really study a lot for some years. Obviously I just started improving and can't tell for sure, how high the ceiling is, but I might find out in the future.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for sharing your inspiring journey! Congratulations on the significant jump you had recently. Just focus on the process instead of the end result, and see how far you will get!
@tobiass3540
@tobiass3540 5 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic Thank you! Initially I started playing chess, because I was looking for a new hobby. I did a lot of competitve sports in my life, but due to injuries I had to stop and chess is a beautiful game, that you can play until you get old and grey. I also enjoy just spending time with people in the chess club, so there definitely is a social aspect to it. Meeting new people is a wonderful part of the chess journey. Due to my sports backrground ad my nature, I enjoy the competetive part of playing tournaments, but I definitely did not start with the goal of becoming a master or anything like this. I mean, I have some small goals, like reaching 1900 now and then I will go from there and I'm just curious about how far I can get. But I agree, if you don't enjoy the process, it makes no sense to spend time on it. And if you don't enjoy it, you won't have the motivation anyway.
@georgcantor8859
@georgcantor8859 6 месяцев назад
Position at 8:00 f4 was my first candidate move to improve the knight, but it means all my pawns are on dark squares making my bishop just a pawn in a frock. Also, Ne5 BxN means black gets rid of a lousy bishop for a good knight. I wondered if Bb4 was an option. possibly lots of trades,, but looking to push b3 supported by the knight.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this feedback! f3-f4 is also a multi purpose move as it not only improves the terrible knight but also stops ...f5-f4 from Black, which would really bury that knight and activate the lsb. Bb4 is another logical candidate! But that pawn on b4 will become a liability for White.
@georgcantor8859
@georgcantor8859 6 месяцев назад
​@@Dr.CansClinicTrue about b5. I like your videos and am wondering about the ravens in the background. An E. A. Poe fan? Best wishes and Happy New Year. SPB. PS: Despite being 60 and 1590 (age, then rating, should anyone wonder), my goal is to get to 1800-2000. I'll examine your courses on chessable. Cheers.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! I did my PhD. in the field of cognitive zoology where I studied the complex cognitive skills of the ravens. Hence the picture :) Thank you for considering studying my courses. Please keep my posted if you do study them!@@georgcantor8859
@benlukaszewski7764
@benlukaszewski7764 11 месяцев назад
I started at 37. In 2020, after watching the netflix show queens gambit. I remember learning the game before i was 12 but never took it seriously. Now 3 years after im up and down between 750-900 elo. Am i doomed to stay at this rating?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment! I don't think you are doomed at that rating, as long as you do the work! I will soon release a series on how to reach certain rating milestones. Stay tuned! :)
@Zenitself
@Zenitself Год назад
Anyone experienced a beginner to master journey as an adult? I started at ~1100 in 2015 and am now 1700s. Have been working, got married and have a kid now so it’s been inconsistent but still progress! Hoping to be a >35 master in the next 5-10 years 🤙🏽🔥 analyze your games!!! Play rapid!! Take breaks! QED
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Beautifully put! Thanks for the training advice and all the best to you in your journey!
@ianarrindell1348
@ianarrindell1348 Год назад
Yes Lookup NM Philemon he became master as an adult
@dagifelner9298
@dagifelner9298 11 месяцев назад
So what about the last one. Was there a chance to stop the check mate?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Yes! …g5!
@wisdomseeker3132
@wisdomseeker3132 11 месяцев назад
Wao, is it Coincidence? I'm 30 now and just starting to play Chess because of Queens Gambit Series. 😅 I play now for 3 months online chess and my rating now is 1400+. I hope i get better and better. Coz, now i love playing chess. 😊❤
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your inspiring comment! Wish you all the success in your chess journey - keep the passion! ☺
@Reneker
@Reneker 11 месяцев назад
I'd like to give feed-back, if the volume on this video could be a little louder somehow, it seems more quiet then other youtube videos, great tips and info tho
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your kind comment. Yes, the sound is low unfortunately - it won't happen again in my future videos!
@joshuasiegal
@joshuasiegal 11 месяцев назад
Loved this video, but you need to work on your volume. I shouldn't need to crank my computer volume to hear you well. There are lots of great resources online on optimizing your audio output for video. Thanks for the great video!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your kind comment. Sorry for this technical issue on my 're-awakening' video. I will fix the problem in my future videos (the next 2 videos of the clinic already has a better sound).
@Chessdrummer83
@Chessdrummer83 11 месяцев назад
Just to add to the comment on sound, my hearing is fine and it is a bit low I think its worth turning the mic up for sure. Great video however thank you!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the feedback and I am sorry for this technical issue. I have now solved it as you can see in my last two videos :)
@premiersportingkc3443
@premiersportingkc3443 11 месяцев назад
I started playing two years ago at the age of 30. I play 1-2 hours everyday and I am now a 1700 rated player. Do you think it is realistic for me to one day become a Candidate Master, and if so, how long?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Great achievement to 1700 in 2 years! Is it ELO rating? CM is not an impossible task I would say if you are serious about your training.
@premiersportingkc3443
@premiersportingkc3443 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic Thanks for the quick reply, Dan! Yes, that is my ELO rating. What would you suggest I do then to train seriously so I can reach the CM stage before I'm 40? (I've heard that people deteriorate significantly after that stage in life, so I figure I will have to reach the rank of CM by that age, otherwise it might not be possible).
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
As a late starter myself I can tell you that anyone can reach 2200 USCF and maybe FIDE. I reached 2000 USCF within a few years and with little theoretical knowledge which means that I got there mostly by means of brute calculation - tactics and calculation are my strengths. However, I soon realized that the gap in theoretical knowledge and pattern recognition is holding my game back. I'm currently working on those other areas and I fully intend to break 2200 USCF and beyond (maybe in 1-2 years). I'm either playing or studying chess almost on a daily basis. A coach can also make a huge difference for those serious about improving. But for now, I'm learning on my own until I hit a plateau. If you're late to the game don't worry. Study hard, play at least weekly, and be smart about how you spend your time. I would advice my beginner self to focus on these key areas: checkmate patterns, calculation, and strategy. If you cover those three you can easily get to the 1600-1800 range. Then work on your endgames and opening knowledge. That should get you to 2200.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for taking your time and writing this encouraging post! I am sure you will inspire many adult improvers. You have mentioned you reached 2000 USCF mostly by brute calculation and tactics. Can you please describe a little more how your tactical training looked like during this period? Were you solving many puzzles/day? Were they mostly pattern recognition puzzles or deep calculation? Were you doing any woodpecker with those? Thanks!
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic . Hello, I started playing chess 5 years ago before the explosion of online chess content and learned to play in what is perhaps an unorthodox method. I would say the bulk of my training consisted of deep calculation. In my personal OTB games I don't make a move until I can calculate relevant ideas at least 6 moves deep (12 depth). I don't leave things to chance and because I've been doing this for several years, I'm naturally faster than average at detecting tactical ideas and calculating accurate lines. More specifically, for the first 2-3 years the bulk of my "study" would consist of watching game reviews/analysis from channels like thechessnetwork, matojelic (now school of chess), and agadmator. After watching the games I would set up key game positions on a physical board and sit there until I could calculate the full combination with all relevant variations without moving any of the pieces. Some exercises would take me upwards of one hour and I would often calculate 9-10 moves deep. This thought me calculation techniques such as compartmentalizing my analysis in my head. I also had a mental checklist for every move to prevent silly blunders and to find a better moves. In short, I rarely did any standalone puzzles. In fact, I recently completed a course on checkmate patters. Many of the mating patterns were new to me. Imagine the embarrassment learning checkmate patterns as an online 2200 player. Its not that I can't calculate the patterns but if I'm not aware of the pattern then I have to work harder OTB to find them. Today, I can find them instantly. Over the past year or so I started doing some standalone puzzles but I'm not a fan of doing random puzzles. I'd rather work on puzzles by theme to improve my pattern recognition. That said, I have so much to learn that I feel that deep calculation will only get me so far and I find it more effective to work on my weaker areas. Before this past couple of years, I didn't have any formal training. In my games I would play basic opening principles that I learned from random places. Recently, I completed opening and endgame courses but I still have a lot of work to do in those areas. This year I'm working on my weakest areas which are strategic play, positional play, and pawn play. Then I plan to go back and improve my opening theory, and endgame technique. I prefer to read a hard copy book with a physical board. While studying I save key positions, games and personal annotations in lichess studies for review. I review my notes regularly to make sure I don't forget them. I estimate that it will take me about a year to go through all the new material. After that, I'll just need to fine tune my techniques and I see no reason why I can't reach 2200 OTB USCF and 2400 online. If I made it this far with such a handicap there is no reason why someone of average intelligence can't reach 2200+ (at least online) by focusing on the right things. A good coach would also be very beneficial to those who want to accelerate their training but I'm learning a lot on my own and don't plan on getting a coach at the moment. I hope this helps anyone looking to improve.
@DarthMessias
@DarthMessias 11 месяцев назад
And how do you know you weren't just a natural talent in the game?
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
@@DarthMessias . I'm not sure what that means. I believe that all knowledge is acquired - hence its not natural in the sense that I was born with it. Perhaps, something in my brain clicked early in my chess career but it doesn't mean that others can't acquire the same knowledge.
@DarthMessias
@DarthMessias 11 месяцев назад
@@MrSupernova111 The issue is the classic fallacy: If I can do it, anyone can do it. That is just an absurd statement as nobody is like you thus you can't say anyone can reach 2200 USCF because you did it. Natural talent exists, not in a sense that you were born with the rules, but that you have flair for learning the game, usually by easily remembering and visualising chess positions. Such potential doesn't necessarily disappear when you age, which explains your quick rise. People should really stop running around screaming "anything is possible!" when studies have shown the opposite for years. We are limited by natural abilities including our brains capacity to solve various task. Some have a brain built for chess, others for music, math, language and so on. Life is about playing to that strength, not pursuing illusory gold at the end of a beautiful rainbow.
@georgcantor8859
@georgcantor8859 6 месяцев назад
And a small token of thanks.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this generous contribution! I really appreciate it. Please do not hesitate asking any questions while watching the videos! 🙏
@pawnpusher
@pawnpusher 11 месяцев назад
Where can I find good strategic puzzle books?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Hello! I can recommend my courses on Chessable when it comes to strategic puzzles. But if you are searching for physical books, I can recommend "Positional Chess Handbook" by Israel Gelfer.
@Flum666
@Flum666 Год назад
you can get to the 2200-2400, never really grandmaster and you wont ever win anything fancy, but if you really apply yourself, you can get far.
@broken1394
@broken1394 11 месяцев назад
I'm 53!! Hmmmm ... Never seen the queen's gambit. There's no bad news if you enjoy playing. Viva Mikhal Tal. ⚘️
@ItsKyleMang
@ItsKyleMang 8 месяцев назад
In the words of the great Pretty Ricky, age ain't nothing but a number.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 8 месяцев назад
I love it!
@roeydaz
@roeydaz 11 месяцев назад
Nice video. Thanks. But needed ear buds to hear you!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! This was mentioned several times, and I am sorry for this technical problem in my reawakening video. Won't happen again!
@123string4
@123string4 Год назад
I started playing November 2022 and I was 400elo. It's now June 2023 (7 months later) and I'm 1500elo. My goal is to get to 2000elo in one year which I know is a lofty goal but I must try! I am 28 years old
@who-pz4ck
@who-pz4ck Год назад
What did you do to get better. Did you read books, watch videos or not do anything and just analyzed your games?
@123string4
@123string4 Год назад
@@who-pz4ck analyze games, puzzles, learn a few openings in depth (I play London and Italian as white, Sicilian and King’s Indian as black), play sometimes against weaker opponents and make ballsy sacrifices and practice saving your positions, sometimes trade everything off just to get endgame practice, learn pawn structures (pawns are so so so important, more important than pieces imo), sometimes play with the board flipped (you play from the top) to get used to “playing as your opponent”.
@hypercubemaster2729
@hypercubemaster2729 Год назад
Is that rating online?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Inspirational! Please let me know here on this comment if you reach your goal in a year :)
@enPassantWarrior9047
@enPassantWarrior9047 Год назад
i got 400 to 1500 in 9 months
@spandanagudigeri1637
@spandanagudigeri1637 4 месяца назад
I am about to turn 14 and not begginer I am like a intermidiate my goal is to get fide rating first I will do the hard part but how to find out if I have telent or not?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 4 месяца назад
Don't worry too much about the talent. Just do the work and go and play. Breed the love for the game.
@spandanagudigeri1637
@spandanagudigeri1637 4 месяца назад
Thank you 😊
@spandanagudigeri1637
@spandanagudigeri1637 4 месяца назад
I have a very good memory but I can't use that in chess
@spandanagudigeri1637
@spandanagudigeri1637 4 месяца назад
Is becoming IM possible? I also take coaching
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 4 месяца назад
If you started playing seriously before 12, IM or GM is more likely, according to one scientific study.@@spandanagudigeri1637
@fazzolarijames
@fazzolarijames Год назад
I started at 34 and added 200 rating fairly quickly (from 1300 to 1500 FIDE), but progress is now very slow. Still, it’s a hobby I can age into 🙂
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you for your comment! Can you please briefly tell me what your training looked like during your journey from 1300 to 1500?
@fazzolarijames
@fazzolarijames Год назад
@@Dr.CansClinic Sure! It started with getting my openings to a playable state, which was done with books. Nothing too special, just creating files, recording some theory in the major variations then adding to my files overtime. I do use spaced repetition to learn the critical lines where move by move matters. I am for two games a week. Either two online rapid games (15+10 or longer) or one online game plus one OTB classical game (it’s very common in Australia for our classical events to be 1 game a week rather than all games in 1 weekend). Games are always reviewed. First by myself trying to check my calculation and strategy, then compared to master games, finally with an engine. The bulk of my study time is tactical or middlegame puzzles. This is 2-4 hours a week. I’ve recently started doing some “blindfold” training to improve visualisation, taking a position, moving X-play deep in my mind then identifying and solving for tactics. That’s it really! Play a minimal number of games, work really hard on calculation. If I encounter an opening line where I’m totally lost, I’ll put some real hours into learning theory, but otherwise I don’t touch openings much now. I have out a lot of hours into endgames (reading Silman’s book) and do a refresher now and again (I take it on holiday haha) but otherwise I don’t do regular endgame work; just middlegame and calculation work.
@Jefferson-ly5qe
@Jefferson-ly5qe 11 месяцев назад
Did you have some prior experience with the game? 1300 FIDE seems quite high for a new player
@fazzolarijames
@fazzolarijames 11 месяцев назад
@@Jefferson-ly5qe I played online and studied at home for at least six months before playing my first rated event (which went +2 -2 =2) so I didn’t just start at 1300 on day 1, I agree that would’ve been crazy!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
@@fazzolarijames Thank you so much for your amazing insights! I am sure many upcoming players would find those tips useful!
@countrydirtkid4451
@countrydirtkid4451 Год назад
My 13 year old boy beats his 45 years old dad every single time. I’m very proud of him.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
All the best wishes to him! :)
@froomerce
@froomerce Год назад
My 10 year old girl does that to me :))
@Daniel-G-P
@Daniel-G-P Год назад
Excellent video. I started chess at 48! I love it but it's a hard slog.....
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Thank you so much for your kind comment! It is a hard game indeed, but also very beautiful!
@TheMooninvader
@TheMooninvader Год назад
I started seriousely at the age of 44 two years ago, and I am aiming for 2000 ELO
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Good luck with your journey!
@TheCaptainsprinkelz
@TheCaptainsprinkelz Год назад
Please raise mic volume. Good video 📹 👍
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
I am sorry for this technical issue. This will be solved in the future videos!
@EneldoSancocho
@EneldoSancocho 11 месяцев назад
I think you missed one of the most important thing in learning anything which is how much you enjoy what you're doing and how much motivation you have.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for pointing this out. I thought I had implied it when I talked about the growth mindset and the joys in engaging in this beautiful game.
@EneldoSancocho
@EneldoSancocho 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic Yes I heard that, I'm no expert, but I think that it's a really important point. Thanks for answering!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
@@EneldoSancocho Definitely! My pleasure.
@eugeniomoccia3917
@eugeniomoccia3917 10 месяцев назад
At the beginning of the video, it shows a book. Could you kindly state the author and the title?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Thought and Choice in Chess by Adriaan de Groot. A very influential Ph.D. thesis from 1940s.
@mariiris1403
@mariiris1403 11 месяцев назад
This is a good video! But would you speak up, please, or adjust the recording sound?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for pointing this out. I have now fixed the sound problem and my future videos will be much better :)
@mariiris1403
@mariiris1403 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic That sounds good! 👍
@misty7220
@misty7220 11 месяцев назад
I dont understand why rook c3 is a good move when it will just be taken by a pawn?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for asking! With that move, Black sacrifices the exchange to weaken the white king - as after bxc3 the pawn structure covering the white king is ruined. Is it clear now? :)
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Год назад
I started playing chess at 33. Was barely 800 ELO without knowing any theory. A month later 1k+. A year and change later 2k+. I barely put any work into chess. Now I need to work on precise theory, advanced patterns, and positional understanding. All very time-consuming. So it's not a matter of age, it's a matter of time and understanding yourself so that you can give yourself good focus points. In addition, it's a matter of mindset. Kids have a chip on their shoulder and are eager to prove themselves, adults rarely. Likewise, adults handle themselves differently than kids. I know so many 20-25 year olds who cry how they are too old to get good. Our brain works the fastest around the age of 16, but the issue is that most people aren't highly intelligent and don't use their brain much. They spend their teens getting drunk 5/7 days a week and they avoid challenging thinking and deep conversations, so their brain speed decreases and by their late teens & early 20s they are already slowbrained compared to someone like Anand at 50 who is intelligent and has been using his brain his entire life.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
What an inspiring progress! Congratulations! Thank you for sharing those observations too. Can you please explain briefly how your chess training looked like until you reached 2000 in around a year? You said you have barely put any work into chess, so I got really curious on which technique has speeded up this process significantly.
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Год назад
@@Dr.CansClinic I kept getting checkmated quickly with traps and gambits. I also had no clue what pieces to move and where in the opening. So I looked for the most "anti-rush" opening, but also an opening I can invest time in long term. I identified the London System as an opening with the least amount of gambits and fast win tactical tricks, but also an opening that's still being improved at a Super GM level, telling me the opening is deep and I could spend decades finding new things to improve in my play. For Black, I tried the French Defense but the blocked in bishop annoyed me and scared me. So I switched to Caro-Kann. Against e4, I used what I called the reverse London, but it's Slav defense. Once I had my openings chosen, I tried to memorize how my pieces should be placed when the opening stage is completed. Didn't worry about the move order too much, just on getting everything set up and then playing chess. My rating immediately improved from 800-835 range to 1000-1050 because people could no longer cheese me. At the same time, I watched Ben Finegold's classes for kids to learn the chess lingo and get introduced to chess culture and thinking. I should also note I played 400 10+0 games in my 1st week of online chess but realized I'm making no progress and needed to improve my chess knowledge and skills. I started doing puzzles, learning basic patterns, trying to understand why a certain move order matters and what the computer wants from me. I struggled for two weeks to reach 1100 but finally broke through. Then I started identifying my blunders. I had a blind spot for playing Ng4/Ng5 early and dropping it to the enemy queen for free. I also kept losing pawns due to tactics and not keeping track of the number of attackers and defenders. Fixing these blunders wasn't a matter of me deciding I won't let it happen now that I know about it. Instead, I had to give myself mental checkpoints in the opening stage - "now is the time you blunder a pawn (or a minor piece), use more brain power to watch for it." It was difficult at first and I still kept making the same blunders but less because I was actively trying to avoid them in those key moments. Two weeks later or so, I reduced those blunders a lot, improved my opening move orders, and hit 1300 on chesscom and roughly 1500-1600 in puzzles on Lichess (maybe 1700 but can't remember now). The entire time I would say I spent 55% time playing, 40% doing puzzles, and 5% learning theory. After 1300, I kept identifying my weakest points, blunders, and blind spots. As I fixed these issues and made less and less blunders throughout the game, I reached 1600. My knowledge and understanding of chess in general improved by zero amount from 1300 to 1600, it was all just identifying one recurring blunder at a time and focusing on not making it again. At 1600, I realized I need a more precise opening move order to respond properly to my opponents and get more out of the opening stage for myself. GM Simon Williams was great to learn the basics, but I switched completely from him to IM Eric Rosen. And any other source I could find on RU-vid and Twitch. As my opening knowledge improved, I reached 1750 roughly in about six months (it would take me another 6-8 I think to hit 2000). Then I started doing puzzles more. I would say 60-70% puzzles and 30% playing. I hit 1900 but couldn't go further. So kept improving opening knowledge and doing puzzles. Still wasn't enough because the games would be equal and hard to push for a win. As a side note, during this entire journey, I played maybe 5000 games total or less. And did puzzles on my phone whenever I was bored or in the mood for it. I also went once or twice a week to a local chess club to play OTB casual blitz. And after my first two months of chess, I joined a chess club to compete in the national league. Back to the progress, so I was stuck at 1900. I stopped playing bullet (which I started playing when I became 1500/1600+ in rapid) and focused on 5+0 and 10+0 only. I started learning the endgame more. I broke 2000 thanks to one trick - eating a "sideways" pawn in a pawn chain in the endgame with a minor piece/rook because you regain material by taking an enemy rook if they take back with a pawn. That was it. I started winning equal endgames and broke 2000. I solved 20-30 puzzles every day, sometimes 100+ and played ten or so games, sometimes 50+. And I spent a fair bit of time watching Jonathan Schrantz' lectures, GM Ron Henley's London games analysis, GM Lamos opening videos, IM Alex Astaneh's videos (amazing), and GM Naroditsky's speedrun. I also attended a few 3am GM Akobian's endgame classes and watched his other recorded lessons (I learned b+k mate the easiest with his video on it). In addition, I followed all of the major online chess events, watching the live streams with GM commentary (Leko is amazing, Hess & Danya, IM Almira Skripchenko is a joy to follow through her flow of thoughts, etc.). Aftermath: After breaking 2000, I realized I didn't really know a single long line of theory. I bought Chessable courses to learn the theory (GM Erwin L'ami's Caro-Kann but it's all Lc0 lines, and IM Alex Banzea's London). Combined with solving puzzles, I peaked at 2100 on chesscom and 2300 on lichess. My FIDE rating was and is atrocious. I was 1534 since I jumped into OTB as a total rookie. Now it's 1596 or something since we barely play a few games a year. My best wins were against one CM and a few 1900-2000 players. I also have brain fart moments in OTB sometimes, especially if I try to study theory the day before a match, I'll play horribly and blunder in the opening. My first chess team had no team spirit, no sessions together, etc. So I changed teams. My current team is led by a 40+ years old 2k+ FIDE professor of architecture and arts. We have one more 2k+ in early 20s. Other guys and one girl are 1600-1900, all in their 20s. I'm also currently getting coached by IM Matvey Galchenko, who is amazing. I switched to Semi-Slav a few months into working with him and used it to draw in OTB classical format against a solid CM. We do 1h of coaching per week. Sadly, I don't do much work on my own due to life being life, so I plan to make more progress in the near future.
@hypercubemaster2729
@hypercubemaster2729 Год назад
@@ChessJourneyman That's a lot of work, but a near 1600 FIDE rating is very respectable in a year! I still need to start playing in OTB tournaments so I can find out where I'm at. I drew my Square Off engine at 2100+ once, have beaten the 1700 engine multiple times, and have beaten in OTB my friend that is 1700 USCF many times, so I wonder where I will level out at. I've been playing for 26 years, though, so my progress is much less impressive than yours, even if I only got serious about it within the last 5 years!
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Год назад
@@hypercubemaster2729 @hypercubemaster2729 It's all relative. I meant I didn't have a disciplined regime like when you are studying at college or training seven days a week in a sport. Elite kids spend all of their free time on studying chess and improving. I pushed the climb in the first 1.5 years. Then spent 1.5 years not playing as much or doing any training. Now in my 4th year hired a coach to push again, making slow, small improvements. I think we can all improve regardless of age if we identify good focus points, things we want to work on, etc. I know people who have played chess for decades but don't ever think about their strengths and weaknesses, never focus their effort on something, they just play aimlessly. Like being in a canoe and smashing the paddle on the water's surface. You'll spend so much energy and get nowhere in particular, just drift around. But if you paddle with a direction in mind, you'll get that canoe going. So I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if you just played chess for years without any real goals or aspirations. Now that you have them, you'll certainly improve. As for OTB chess, especially 90+30, the biggest shock for me was how every opponent was extremely solid. I could no longer just make moves and wait for a big blunder like in online chess you often can. It still happens obviously, but I mean for example a 1504 FIDE guy made my teammate who is 1900 FIDE struggle for 2h before he finally managed to beat him 😂😂😂 He was mad at himself for it, but I'm like dude, it doesn't matter how weak your opponent's rating is on paper when his moves on the board are strong. Anyway, feel free to respond here in the future on your progress, would love to hear about your first OTB experience.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
@@ChessJourneyman Wow, thank you so much for sharing your inspiring story! Thank you for taking your time and sharing those details with us. I am sure it will give inspiration to other ambitious players!
@Serkan33556
@Serkan33556 3 дня назад
okay now gonna ask this how much can i progress starting from 16 years old i study about 2:30 hours a day
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 3 дня назад
I started around 16 and reached 2153 ELO around 21. Becoming an IM is less likely, but CM/FM is achievable I think.
@HungryScribbler
@HungryScribbler 11 месяцев назад
I started getting serious in 2021. I'm 56 now.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment. All the best wishes to you!
@HungryScribbler
@HungryScribbler 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic I'm having the hardest time improving from 1200 daily, 800 blitz and 500 bullet. Any advice? Puzzle rating is 2200 as of today. As high as 2300.
@harshanand901
@harshanand901 2 месяца назад
is anyne else facing sound issues when using headphones ?
@dimtodim
@dimtodim 11 месяцев назад
I would like to share my experience with chess... I started playing seriously during my studies, I was about 25 years old.. The only lessons were video processing of gm games and solving chess puzzles.. Today I am 37 years old, rating on lichess bullet blitz 2100 - 2200... I can usually win even players with titles, sometimes I play great games and sometimes I play badly, it all depends, it's not even important, the game is important... I worked with a colleague who was an IM and I was able to beat him spectacularly
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your chess experience! What did you mean by video processing of gm games?
@dimtodim
@dimtodim 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic mostly it was video lessons of game analysis of grandmasters from chessbase. I learned a lot there, but I think I made the most progress solving puzzles.
@Insidia85
@Insidia85 7 месяцев назад
​@@dimtodimwhat is your rapid elo
@dimtodim
@dimtodim 7 месяцев назад
@@Insidia85 i dont play rapid chess online... So many cheaters even on 1 min or 3 min games...
@Insidia85
@Insidia85 7 месяцев назад
@@dimtodim if you play just bullett you don t improve. Try to play rapid at least. If someone cheat he s been soon banned and your elo restored
@mwangikimani3970
@mwangikimani3970 11 месяцев назад
You need to understand fairly deeply at least 50,000 positional themes to be at least an FM. Assuming you can play and study at least 3 meaningful 15min games against slightly stronger opposition per day, thats about 10,000 games a year, play another 100 tornament games a year, you can make 2200 in 5yrs with great talent and study. Forget ONLINE blitz till you are 2100 FIDE.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment. Interesting insights indeed.
@DreadgateTCG
@DreadgateTCG Месяц назад
I'm 44 and I'm just starting to take it seriously. Watch me go all the way.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Месяц назад
Way to go! Let me know about your progress! ☺️
@kikiritkov
@kikiritkov 11 месяцев назад
I learned chess 5 years ago at 36 and now at 41 i am 1700 FIDE. My online rating is from 2000-2200.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Great! How did you train chess during those 5 years?
@kikiritkov
@kikiritkov 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic I am very stubborn person. I had a friend who was 1600 online (He is now 2300)and he beat me all the time so i started to watch online videos and solve as many chess puzzles as i can so i developed my tactic skills and my middlegame to some extend.Parellel to that i analyzed almost all my games that i lost with black pieces with lichess analyzer,especialy the openings. Than i started to learn endgames and at the end i started to learn some opening strategies ( I am still not good at this especially with white).PS: This 5 years i play online chess every single day,minimum 1 and maximum 15 games.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
@@kikiritkov Great story, thanks for sharing!
@fernandofabbri637
@fernandofabbri637 11 месяцев назад
I learned to play chess at the age of 35. Now, I am 51. On Lichess, my rating is 2281 (rapid - 10 min). I mostly play online e just for fun.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment! Impressive rating on lichess indeed! So you have not trained chess except for online play ever since you learned the game?
@fernandofabbri637
@fernandofabbri637 11 месяцев назад
@@Dr.CansClinic , yes. That is it.
@peterbago4574
@peterbago4574 5 месяцев назад
What is the best result an adult learner achieved? Anyone achieved title FM perhaps?
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 5 месяцев назад
Apparently there is one such person: FM Nathan Rasika. Ben Johnson interviewed him in his podcast. Here is the link: www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog/2020/12/1/episode-204-fm-nathan-resika
@hasb826
@hasb826 6 месяцев назад
🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 6 месяцев назад
❤️
@iceicebaby6980
@iceicebaby6980 Год назад
Good news, I got the first and last puzzle quickly. Bad news, I'm 105 and started 4 years ago.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Solving the last one quickly means you are on the right track in raising your floor! If you stop giving away games due to not seeing the threat or not checking for blunders, your rating will surely reflect this progress!
@Gregor2000252
@Gregor2000252 11 месяцев назад
Le son est beaucoup trop bas, j'ai arrêté la vidéo après une minute...☹️
@andrewthompson10
@andrewthompson10 11 месяцев назад
Based on probability, reaching the highest level is nearly impossible even for people who start as kids.
@snowblack9
@snowblack9 11 месяцев назад
I started at the age of 41. I Can only give Lichess Ratings. After 3 Months: Bullet 1150, Blitz 1250, Rapid 1300. After 2 Years and 6 Months: Bullet 1650, Blitz 1600, Rapid 1550. Self-Learning, no chess club, no teacher. Playing / studying an insane amount of 1 hour / day. As an adult beginner, you have to train harder and/or gain less, but independent from age and chess: The biggest mistake is not starting something. If you dont start right now, you probably wont go anywhere, and if you go, you will improve, and the harder you train, the more you gain. Improving yourself will spark joy. Hope that helps. Oh, and i couldnt solve any of your puzzles, but that means ive lust learned/trained those new patterns, thank you!
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for these valuable insights! Beautiful improvement over the years and such consistency! Quality over quantity - 1 hour/day of intense training may be better than passive exposure for longer periods. Improvement indeed brings joy and motivation to go further - even though the aim should not necessarily be to become a titled player.
@snowblack9
@snowblack9 11 месяцев назад
​@@Dr.CansClinic its less of a goal, more of an addiction ;) seriously: goal is to be better than yesterday.
@TigerTzu
@TigerTzu Год назад
I started playing in 2021 at at the age of 28 around 1100Elo and currently I'm sitting at 2264.
@ahmednoaman1817
@ahmednoaman1817 Год назад
Wow
@warnaoh
@warnaoh Год назад
Internet is a beautiful place to lie :P
@hypercubemaster2729
@hypercubemaster2729 Год назад
That is likely equivalent to 1600-1700 OTB if that is an online rating. Still, that is a very good rating after only 2 years!
@TigerTzu
@TigerTzu Год назад
@@warnaoh It's an ugly place for jealousy, though.
@TigerTzu
@TigerTzu Год назад
@@hypercubemaster2729 You just made that up lmao
@ergwer45624
@ergwer45624 Год назад
i guess it's age but i have the volume cranked all up and i can barely hear what you're saying
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
I am sorry for this technical issue, it has already been brought up many times. I will fix it in my future videos.
@tameemjan1
@tameemjan1 Год назад
I found the moves he said in 2 secs that means m I close to master??? I just got 1900 lichess rating but I believe I can get 2000
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
Those positions don't test for mastery unfortunately :) But good that you have found them in 2 seconds - it means you have absorbed those chunks.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 11 месяцев назад
Those were easy puzzles. lol. But yes, you can easily reach 2000 rating.
@handsome_man69
@handsome_man69 Год назад
Handsome man
@DexterMorphy
@DexterMorphy Год назад
My best rating was 2209 I would like to get better but I don’t need to be better to have fun.
@Dr.CansClinic
@Dr.CansClinic Год назад
So true!
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