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State of Jefferson (Full Documentary) 2014 | Oregon Experience 

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Anyone living in Southern Oregon or Northern California is probably also a resident of the State of Jefferson. The mythical Jefferson is the product of local lore, regional identity, and pride for its residents. It remains a symbol of an enduring rural-urban divide. Now, some are working to make it the 51st official state by moving borders between Oregon and California.
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@kurtbradwill
@kurtbradwill 4 года назад
I took a road trip a while back along the coast from northern WA to LA and back on I5. I found all the Jefferson signage and wondered about it and it’s history. Glad to hear the story!
@shareonrivas1458
@shareonrivas1458 4 года назад
I LOVE WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU KEEP THAT QUESTION SORT OF PENDING IN YOUR MIND AND THEN YOU COME ALONG THE ANSWER ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY !!
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
Jefferson will never be a State in reality!
@AnthroGuitarist
@AnthroGuitarist Год назад
@@kbanghart "The United States will never be a country bro just submit to king George!" Very naive view of history man
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@AnthroGuitarist sorry I never said that, not sure who you were talking to
@tonysamuel4694
@tonysamuel4694 Год назад
I just learned about Jefferson myself and it makes me wonder what else I don’t know about America. Interesting story and movement.
@sswcustomsewing4276
@sswcustomsewing4276 2 года назад
I will say that OPB makes some great documentary films even about mythical states.
@calebisaacs4760
@calebisaacs4760 10 месяцев назад
I want Jefferson to be a state
@scott9628
@scott9628 2 года назад
I live in Medford Oregon near the border. With our population growth and political views. You can see the state of Jefferson happening in the next 25 to 50 year's realistically. It takes time.
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
nah, we're sending liberals to medford now cause its got cheap housing. you got no where to take your racist crap. you could always move deeper into the forest, but we all saw how that shit has been burning along i5. keep praying i guess but state of jefferson is the biggest joke in american history, aside from maybe the 'american redoubt'.
@jordanjohnson9866
@jordanjohnson9866 Год назад
Nah. Not next 25 to 50 year’s realistically. /
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@jordanjohnson9866 so then when?
@Thedumone3235
@Thedumone3235 Год назад
@@kbanghart I'd like to believe that probably in 10 to 20 years due to large statehood movements in DC and Puerto Rico, adding Jefferson would maintain the status quo of bipartisan balance in the Senate.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@Thedumone3235 actually your comment is one of the most accurate and honest ones I have seen from supporters of this movement. The only way adding a state would happen of course is if the same number of senators from the other major political party would also be added, as you said.
@billythekid5693
@billythekid5693 Год назад
Started learning of this after buying land in Modoc county. I absolutely support this decision!
@Danceswithmushrooms
@Danceswithmushrooms 11 месяцев назад
You should have bought land in Idaho if you wanted to live in Idaho.
@billythekid5693
@billythekid5693 11 месяцев назад
@@Danceswithmushrooms ignorant comment
@markteeter-hw2lx
@markteeter-hw2lx 7 месяцев назад
Grew up in north California from Scott where etna brewery is based and the old timers said that the Great Depression really wasn’t so devastating, times were tight but people could find work. In that time the valley had a flour mill , dairy, and like minded local producers. It was a very localized economy without a great deal of job seeking folks transplanting
@CharliePamula
@CharliePamula 4 года назад
It honestly means a lot to me because I grew up in New Jersey and always loved history i could name every president and state at like 7 or 8 but i was born April 13th same as Former President Jefferson and when my dad passed away my mom and my family drove across the U.S to Sacramento area where my moms side of the family is from and my uncle flying the Jefferson flag and now learning much more about it really just fits right in my life
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
The state of Jefferson isn't going to happen
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
Ya you should buy a Jefferson flag, when people ask about it teach them about it. Chances are they’ll become interested and research it themselves. It would really help, also ignore this other guy names Plen, they’re just butthurt
@AnthroGuitarist
@AnthroGuitarist Год назад
@@kbanghart ok LAtard
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
This is probably the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. 😂. Which checks out since it’s about the “state of jefferson” 😂😂
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 Год назад
I live in southern Oregon and would love to have a State of Jefferson. It’s that or be part of Greater Idaho. We are such a different people here and really have nothing in common with northern oregon or california.
@weebeevillaging587
@weebeevillaging587 Год назад
Right because state boundaries should change with people’s style of the day
@micmic9410
@micmic9410 Год назад
@@weebeevillaging587😂
@micmic9410
@micmic9410 Год назад
I’m pretty sure the Indians said the same thing. Poor poor your people.
@EVtripper
@EVtripper 10 месяцев назад
Maybe it's all the meth an crappy roads that messes up the brain.
@leftfield123
@leftfield123 2 года назад
It's common for people to quote Jefferson's statement about the need for rebellion or the one about the west being independent. Rarely do they cite the other founders who thought the ideas were nuts.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
State of Jefferson still doesn't exist
@cassandrarodriguezalmaguer8943
@cassandrarodriguezalmaguer8943 3 года назад
So ur telling me where my family lives in Oregon is considered “Jefferson state” oh wow.
@MeltedPearls
@MeltedPearls Месяц назад
Kinda crazy, kinda brilliant.
@kchiloquin5570
@kchiloquin5570 Год назад
My home state. S Oregon my tribe. Born in California back and fourth.Time to get out of welfare land. Help each other out and enjoy life. If the beer 🍻🍺 is not good enough then make it better.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp Год назад
Sigh, if only. Fingers crossed for Greater Idaho.
@fogpumas
@fogpumas 3 года назад
As a resident, I stand with the State of Jefferson... if not for the simple fact that Gavin Newsom doesn’t give a flying f*ck about us. We need our own state.
@jimmyjoesmith440
@jimmyjoesmith440 2 года назад
Are you and your people going afford to run your government etc without federal or Calif/ Oregon state assistance
@brytanniparrett
@brytanniparrett 2 года назад
@@jimmyjoesmith440 What?
@christophereichten9005
@christophereichten9005 Год назад
@@brytanniparrett Federal Aid. The federal government provides financial assistance to every state in the union.
@bryanj7063
@bryanj7063 Год назад
@@jimmyjoesmith440 they will get federal assistance but they will still be dirt poor and assbackward like Mississippi.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@PuppyCuddler I think the state of Jefferson is dead, bro
@russf6572
@russf6572 15 дней назад
The 'founding fathers' gave us the tool to make this happen. Unfortunately, they couldn't give us the backbone to use it at the same time!
@agvaquero8361
@agvaquero8361 Год назад
Love the idea. This would bring me back to California!
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
Please stay away. We don’t need any more dummies.
@dcosgro1
@dcosgro1 6 месяцев назад
JEFFERSON FOREVER
@Sixrabbbit
@Sixrabbbit Год назад
State of Jefferson was Modoc, siskiyou and del Norte counties. Don't get ahead of ourselves
@alicemayhew82
@alicemayhew82 3 года назад
Hey there! From England
@samuelcarver1343
@samuelcarver1343 3 года назад
Hey there also from England
@alicemayhew82
@alicemayhew82 3 года назад
@@samuelcarver1343How come you're watching this?
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 года назад
@@alicemayhew82 lol why are you watching this 😂 I'm from Chicago Illinois usa
@frizzz209227
@frizzz209227 Год назад
I see signs, flags, and banners of the State of Jefferson as far south as Fresno county. Not just in the Sierras but down in the San Joaquin Valley. As a valley resident I am very supportive of the State of Jefferson as long as we are a part of it. Sacramento is nothing more than a SF Bay area enclave. The surrounding counties are, in my opinion, in the State of Jefferson. its growing more and more every year since people are realizing that we are not represented by the State of California. Farm country is honored to consider itself part of the State of Jefferson.
@EVtripper
@EVtripper 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, there are Libertariantards everywhere. They don't think, they just believe.
@Meatwad.Baggins
@Meatwad.Baggins 3 года назад
Build the biggest port on the west coast but build it with accommodation for automated trucks. Next.... more railroads.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
It used to extend up to at least Aberdeen Wa.
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
Aberdeen!! Now that’s a real dump.😂
@user-fv6rz1ou4o
@user-fv6rz1ou4o 9 месяцев назад
Jefferson is necessary
@heyphilphil
@heyphilphil 3 года назад
Aside from whyoming its one of the most beautiful parts of the country. I'm moving to a Jefferson from the bay area. Not taking bay area politics with me. This part of the state doesn't represent me socially or politically. If it ever happened I'd be all for it!!!
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
we're sending bay area folks, cheap housing up there. you think you're getting away but you're just warming the seat for us.
@JamesKFuku
@JamesKFuku 8 месяцев назад
I live in Southern California this is the first time of hearing this. It’s a breath of fresh air. The Government from Federal done to Counties and possibly Cities need to remind themselves that they are working for the People. Not the other way around. They all swore to the Constitution to protect and serve. And here’s Newsom trying to change the constitution and another example outside of California in New Mexico suspending the 2nd Amendment what’s that all about.
@danielcraft3727
@danielcraft3727 Год назад
Thought about moving to Jefferson but the sight of the Iron Gate dam on the Klamath was as about as ugly a site of an unhealthy river I have seen too many times now. Hope the salmon runs of all the rivers of Jefferson come back some day. Not a fan of green algae in once crystal clear rivers streams and creeks and lakes. The right to water isn't a right to wanton waste and abuse. California ranchers and farmers, businessmen would suck dry the west before giving up an ounce of water. Bless the rains and floods. Happy Iron Gate and the other dams on the Klamath being torn down. Has to a middle path of "common" sense and sharing and conserving resources. Sacramento be darned to Hades. Waste not want not. Throw away and waste country can't last forever.
@EVtripper
@EVtripper 10 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@MGonz-cc9mf
@MGonz-cc9mf 3 года назад
I’ve never been to California or Oregon. But I support this
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
anyone who supports the state of jefferson also supports rampant white incest. ew.
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
Keep it that way. There’s enough morons out here already. We don’t need one more.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Does Jefferson have an Alcotraz system? Eric
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
What ?????
@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441
@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441 3 года назад
Anyone seen the news about Seattle's "Capital Hill Automous Zone"? I may not support their ideologies- but if a group of protestors can make that happen, with no organization, how much more can State of Jefferson succeed from California- with an established flag, declaration of Independence, pending State Constitution, plans for State/Local Defense, peace keeping, defined borders, State Citizenship, branches of government, history/struggle for liberty, ect?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
Except that it's not happening. The state of Jefferson can't get enough people organized to do it.
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 3 года назад
CHOP has been disassembled.
@barbarascott828
@barbarascott828 3 года назад
Plen122 we are very organized! We’re a true grassroots effort, we depend on pulling together our own funding. Our counties are poor, because of all the regulations that been put upon them. No economy, no jobs. We do not and will not accept donations from elites or corporations that would want favors done when we become the 51st State. We are going about this legally and pay for everything through our donations.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@barbarascott828 but you need more people
@SarahJacksonLV
@SarahJacksonLV Год назад
LOVE THIS!
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
hella sad that you do.
@brytanniparrett
@brytanniparrett 11 месяцев назад
I'm not usually one to pull the race card especially since I'm white, but I will say that anyone who supports this "state" is probably a racist pos.
@steventraugh259
@steventraugh259 Год назад
Do people understand the economic consequences of succession? With low or no taxes, how are you going to pay for infrastructure maintenance, national defense, new public construction, libraries, higher education, trade schools, statewide technology networks, airports, and coastal commerce construction?
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
They have no clue. It’s quite funny to listen to them try to reason their way through it. Painfully funny. Look up the folks that want to secede eastern Oregon to Idaho. They are really morons. 🙄
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
You know who Eric and David are.... you've got camp David, you've got America
@Zachariah_
@Zachariah_ 2 года назад
I seen enough movies. I think Dorthy killed him. 😂😂 22:02
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, the idea of the State of Klamath makes the most sense. Maybe going as far east as Lake County.
@Brynden-Rivers
@Brynden-Rivers 3 года назад
There will never a state of jefferson sorry. California and oregon both state legislatures woul never vote for it. Imo personally i think they should have the state, but logic would suggest otherwise...
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
I haven't seen it called Jefferson on like 9 earths! Eric
@EVtripper
@EVtripper 10 месяцев назад
Yes to Bioregionalism. No to a flag with a double cross. Check out the Bioregional map that John W. Powell came up with that didn't draw straight lines along lines of latitude.
@ThomasSchwartz-km2nf
@ThomasSchwartz-km2nf 5 месяцев назад
Keep the State of Jefferson mythicle.
@JohnFoley1701
@JohnFoley1701 Год назад
Surprised coos county wasn’t a part of it.
@mkptrsn
@mkptrsn 4 года назад
I’m surprised I’m not hearing more about Jefferson these days....I think most in NorCal would support breaking away 🤷‍♂️
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
Then you are thinking wrong, because most of us do not.
@ElectronHVChannel
@ElectronHVChannel 3 года назад
Plen122 wrong, we do.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@ElectronHVChannel who does? You need to have a majority of people, plus the legislature behind you. How much support do you have?
@barbarascott828
@barbarascott828 3 года назад
Plen122 , it’s not as easy as you put it. We are going about it legally, takes time but it is being done. Many people are on board, 23 counties in fact! The media ignores us, that’s why you don’t hear about Jefferson.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@barbarascott828 I've seen the media cover it, I've seen the crowds and gatherings in Sacramento for it. I think if you had a lot more people show up it could help. Also, what do you mean by 23 counties are behind it? They haven't voted for it.
@cameronconnor5735
@cameronconnor5735 7 месяцев назад
As a person that was born and raised in California. Hiked the pct and found myself stuck in this "state". This was the most difficult hitch of my life. The girl that drove me from Saeid to Yreka drove so fast her grandma had to puke out the window. yall do you.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Well it used to have the locks in it and some of the Wa. Military bases too! Eric of America Appalachia had another state before too...
@shnazynick
@shnazynick 3 года назад
When is jefferson becoming a state?
@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441
@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441 3 года назад
If Capital Hill Autonomous Zone can raise a ruckus, I dont see why Jefferson cant. Jefferson effort is much more organized.
@peace__777
@peace__777 3 года назад
@¿K Allayl? I hope that happens. Then the left will have the squalid utopia its always dreamed of and normal pople can get on with their lives. Lol
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 3 года назад
@@peace__777 The counties that comprise the State of Jefferson voted for Trump by wide margins in 2016
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441 much more organized? Then why don't we see the evidence of this organization?
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
@@kbanghart anything is more organized than CHAZ. They had a rapper warlord who was handing out guns to random thugs that took complete advantage, they also had racial segregation
@radwizard
@radwizard 3 года назад
I'M READY TO MAKE THIS REAL! HOW CAN I HELP?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
Send more money. But it won't help
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
Spread the word, arm yourself, sign petitions, donate. Best thing though, is simply buy a Jefferson flag, when people ask about it teach them about it. Chances are they’ll become interested and research it themselves.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@ape_man504 Well personally, I am against the idea, but am following it as an outside observer.
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
@@kbanghart ya but you’re sharing your opinion strongly in these comments when it doesn’t affect you like it effects us here. This isn’t just some political movement, it’s our lives and our children’s lives. The governments of California and Oregon constantly take our tax money and use it for infrastructure projects that in no way help us, they fuck us over constantly
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 года назад
@@ape_man504 I 100% support this from Chicago ppl in Illinois know how you feel are government is extremely corrupt chicago literally control the whole direction of the state if you don't live in chicago then your vote doesn't matter in Illinois and chicago or the rest of Illinois get no money no support nothing from the illinois state government and California is worse there way to big by land area for there own good there diversity prevents them from function as 1 state Jefferson should become there own state period it will be better for both California and the ppl of Jefferson
@carlousmagus5387
@carlousmagus5387 Год назад
I don't have any issues with forming a new state.
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
me neither - which is why i think we should annex peurto rico. state of jefferson is kinda dumb tho, i think if that happens the us military should put them down.
@dashcamvideos6742
@dashcamvideos6742 Год назад
I have a State of Jefferson T-shirt. When I wear it, people know. I live in WA State. Picked it up driving thru.
@josephbattaglia3690
@josephbattaglia3690 9 месяцев назад
what would be needed of government to make the state of Jefferson a legitimate state?
@hellenicboy4757
@hellenicboy4757 3 года назад
I support the State of Jefferson even though I'm not American. Much love to the State of Jefferson from Greece.
@PendeltonWhiskey
@PendeltonWhiskey 3 года назад
If the delusion referred to here as the State of Jefferson were to actually become a reality they wouldn't let you in it. White hillbillies only.
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
Malacca!!🙄🖕
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Like the city of Jackson, most likely named for Jackson, who was Jack? Was he a good guy? Lol
@ianlim4404
@ianlim4404 11 месяцев назад
Good thing it is a state of mind. Most people in Northern California surely will support it. I hear a lot about it, but I'm sorry I'm not in favor for states that self-declares statehood.
@steventraugh259
@steventraugh259 Год назад
I understand the desire of the people to have their own state, but I have to wonder how inclusive it would have been. I didn't see one minority (non-white) person in this contemporary 2014 documentary - no Native American, Asian, Hispanic, or Black people were represented. Just how free and welcoming would the State of Jefferson have been if it had become an independent state (even today).
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
Probably about as welcoming as the guy they want to name it after was. 😂
@poppygoldensun
@poppygoldensun Месяц назад
It's really just another attempt at what the Oakies tried to do in California - create a white utopia.
@BornGaming32
@BornGaming32 3 года назад
Curry & Del Norte counties are the best.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Well who was Jeff? Or Sam? You didn't know Torjes.... ;) Eric of America
@Normie2388
@Normie2388 6 месяцев назад
We should call it “liberty” and just call it the state of liberty to 51st state make it a libertarian strong hold
@sefarsogood
@sefarsogood Год назад
Jefferson Airplane knew: It's our Fault.
@scotmclean5124
@scotmclean5124 Год назад
SOJ! 😊
@mathlover2299
@mathlover2299 3 года назад
some call it Nor Nor Cal
@Ken2234
@Ken2234 4 месяца назад
Bit by bit
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
The state of Jefferson needs more money! Give them more of your hard-earned dollars!
@johnnash5118
@johnnash5118 4 года назад
Plen122 Where are the Jefferson dollars going now? Sacramento and Salem, both up to 200 miles away and “progressive” black holes.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@johnnash5118 pretty much
@Toyotas_n__Tools
@Toyotas_n__Tools 4 года назад
@@kbanghart 40 million dollar police station in salem is very needed! pshh
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@Toyotas_n__Tools but then Trumpers complain about not enough police presence! Lol
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 3 года назад
@@johnnash5118 Sacramento progressive? That's funny
@OGRocker1
@OGRocker1 Год назад
Now were talking .... proud to live in the state of Jefferson. XX To bad we have flat landers from the north telling thier version of the truth. Despite what you say, it is ...
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
proud cause you ain't got nothin real to be proud of but a fake state that will never happen
@Ravyn7
@Ravyn7 3 года назад
The state of Jefferson needs to be independent, and I mean it!
@Hassingerjeff
@Hassingerjeff 3 года назад
Not gonna happen. The federal government has no incentive to take on the full financial responsibility of a bunch of chronic welfare recipients while simultaneously getting fucked out of as much tax revenue as state of Jefferson lawmakers could get away with. Then there's the inevitable regression of civil rights leading to federal lawsuits that would take up a considerable amount of the department of justice resources, something else they have little incentive to deal with. Ya'll are living in a fantasy world
@yadidimeanmaine
@yadidimeanmaine 3 года назад
@@Hassingerjeff You clearly know jack shit about Jeffersonians. I live in Southern Oregon, and I can tell you that we are certainly not represented by Salem or Sacramento, let alone Portland or San Fran. We work hard. In this area we tend to be center-right libertarian types. We make our own way, and we don't care if you're a gay pot farmer protecting your property with a machine gun. That kinda sums it up.
@christophereichten9005
@christophereichten9005 Год назад
@@yadidimeanmaine His point isn’t about the personal qualities of your fellow residents. His point is that you won’t get a new state because the federal government has no desire to allow that to happen. There is no incentive for them.
@tylerkriesel8590
@tylerkriesel8590 Год назад
@@Hassingerjeff that’s not what America is supposed to be. You can’t be a state because we can’t milk you for everything you got is fucken evil, I hope your not on that side of history.
@micmic9410
@micmic9410 Год назад
@@christophereichten9005😂❤
@drc-ek2zu
@drc-ek2zu 4 года назад
They complain about support? The per capita spend on political campaigns in New Hampshire is $17.00. In Oregon it's just $ 0.55 cents. So when they want help, just ignore them. The entire state just waits for handouts, so even though district 2 is 2/3rds of the state, the farmers get the free farm bill welfare, and they call themselves Republicans. They all know it all and that is why they will never come together.
@Fullsendfilosophy
@Fullsendfilosophy 4 года назад
I'm a blue collar worker and pay my taxes..state of Jefferson rural Oregon working man
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@Fullsendfilosophy Jefferson isn't a state
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
@@kbanghart Here in the State of Jefferson we don’t see California or Oregon are our states, we see our own Great State of Jefferson
@yadidimeanmaine
@yadidimeanmaine 3 года назад
@@kbanghart Seems like it if you're here, Around here you can tune into JPR (Jefferson Public Radio). We are NOT Salem. We are NOT Sacramento. And we certainly aren't Portland or San Fran. We tend to be a libertarian stronghold. We couldn't give two fucks if a same-sex couple were guarding their pot field with full-auto machine guns and paying no taxes on their sales.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@yadidimeanmaine libertarians are just Republican lite, aren't they?
@paxwallace8324
@paxwallace8324 10 месяцев назад
Well 1st I hittchiked to Berkeley Ca in 1980 then spent some time hanging out with a bunch of pot growing hippies at the Josephine County CoOp around Grants Pass Oregon for around 6mos then hitched to Seattle where I went to Cornish and became a jazz pianist in Europe eventually. But Yeah sure Jefferson why not🦧
@xse-qb2vv
@xse-qb2vv 3 года назад
LoL °lifetime Ca resident
@ts109
@ts109 2 года назад
Wow i had no idea how loony people are in that region.
@Bob-sd8ns
@Bob-sd8ns 4 месяца назад
😮😢
@mr.rhinehart410
@mr.rhinehart410 2 года назад
The keyword is “Mythical” state of Jefferson. mythical : existing only in the imagination. That is as far as it gets but not based on reality.
@sal-1337
@sal-1337 4 года назад
you cant stop the movement
@artm6723
@artm6723 4 года назад
Immodium?
@cwd243
@cwd243 4 года назад
Can't stop the movement? Cali and oregon have, repeatedly, for decades. Lol.
@sal-1337
@sal-1337 4 года назад
Colt im 21 XDDDDD but okay leftist
@americanpatriotparty-natio5347
@americanpatriotparty-natio5347 4 года назад
What would you gain with only one new state ran by another easily federally controlled bureaucracy; You need to expand the interest by giving ALL counties the right to statehood. Oregon became a state with 40,000 to 80,000 people, this should be a MAXIMUM amount of population needed to automatically establish statehood; If your movement put as much effort into encouraging ALL counties to demand statehood, you would have far more support because more communities would benefit. As importantly, breaking up the federal control by making so many states they could not control, you would break up the federal and large state power structures; and in so doing, empower local communities to have the adequate representation the Constitution intended. American Patriot Party .CC National Headquarters www.americanpatriotparty.cc Facebook: facebook.com/AmericanPatriotPartyNationalHeadquarters
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@americanpatriotparty-natio5347 that's what Mark Baird had been trying to do.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Sometimes America makes an Ericson too, ;) America
@user-ew6rs1tm7z
@user-ew6rs1tm7z Год назад
I'm all for it. The problem is that it's always going to be urban vs rural. So once it becones a state all the rural people will want to create another state because they're not being represented
@yetimelly523
@yetimelly523 3 года назад
N Cali citizens who want to be governed by conservatives need to work on turning Humboldt & Del norte counties into pro "Greater Idaho" voters. Need younger organizers to rally the people. Talk about "State of Jefferson" should be tabled until the break up or secession of Cal.
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
which is never gonna happen. i suggest you state of jefferson folks just hold your breath. no really, hold it. please. until you pass out if that's what it takes. then wake up and start holding your breath again. do this until you break up cali, lololol.
@cosmo1eleven855
@cosmo1eleven855 6 месяцев назад
VT100..... Spoken like a true status quo automaton.
@kronoscart
@kronoscart 4 года назад
This should be on the 2020 voting ballet
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
It needs money and signatures, both of which they don't have enough of.
@johnlatham6382
@johnlatham6382 3 года назад
Hahaha, it was on the 2018 california ballot but the appointed judges decided they knew better than the the citizens and removed it from the ballot
@peace__777
@peace__777 3 года назад
@@kbanghart The idea of this new state really triggers you, doesn't it? Hahaha
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
@@peace__777 Not really because it's not a new state, and won't be. Haha
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 3 года назад
There have been multiple attempts to divide California into different states, including ballot measures. They've failed. It wasn't on the 2018 ballot because it was found that the organization collecting signatures to put it on the ballot hadn't collected enough signatures legally.
@jazz4asahel
@jazz4asahel 11 месяцев назад
Where do the tax dollars go? Seemingly NOT to roads and schools.
@velwheel3135
@velwheel3135 4 года назад
It is not just lore. We still want representation by other than big city government.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
That's the choice you make to live where you do
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
@@kbanghart stfu. All deserve equal representation, shouldn’t be based on where you live
@JacobBigYankee
@JacobBigYankee 2 года назад
We need this in NY.
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
then you'll have to win that representation democratically. its how democracy works. 10000 votes vs 100000 means you lose. read a civics book?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Год назад
@@vt100music they think it should be based on the electoral college even down to the local level LOL
@bold810
@bold810 8 месяцев назад
Does Anyone, ANYONE THAT REMEMBERS B.E. SMITH? NO SMITH, NO JEFFERSON.
@radwizard
@radwizard 3 года назад
JEFFERSON STATE #JEFFERSONSTATE #JEFFERSONSTATENOW PATRIOTS FOR JEFFERSON STATE! TIME TO SNAP OREGON AND CALIFORNIA IN HALF! JEFFERSON STATE NOW!
@radwizard
@radwizard 3 года назад
@TriplePlay go ahead and tread. If you want to get bite. What are you waiting for? Considering this Country is on the Verge of a Civil War and a massive Exodus out of California, and another very strong movement emerging called "New California" anything is possible. Specially with the Rise Of Marxist on The West Coast. Jefferson has never been closer to reality. Either way I am 100% for breaking up California. PR and DC want to be a State, California can be broken up.
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
hey your capslock is on and you sound like you're tweeking
@kixigvak
@kixigvak Год назад
California will soon return to Mexico.
@jamesramsay867
@jamesramsay867 3 года назад
Hell yeah. I'm 35 and have never heard the term "jackass-able". I like the swag. Make this a state now!
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 3 года назад
No
@barbarascott828
@barbarascott828 3 года назад
Plen122 😂😂😂, words coming out of your very mouth..... that’s why your one of the “jackass-ables” Plen122 😂😂🤣😂🤣
@Hassingerjeff
@Hassingerjeff 3 года назад
Not gonna happen. The federal government has no incentive to take on the full financial responsibility of a bunch of chronic welfare recipients while simultaneously getting fucked out of as much tax revenue as state of Jefferson lawmakers could get away with. Then there's the inevitable regression of civil rights leading to federal lawsuits that would take up a considerable amount of the department of justice resources, something else they have little incentive to deal with. Ya'll are living in a fantasy world
@ape_man504
@ape_man504 3 года назад
@@barbarascott828 yes they are Jackassable, they are also one of them Pansies that ain’t our state flower
@joelmckinney16
@joelmckinney16 Год назад
No income, sales, or liquor (!) tax; all infrastructure (the lack of which was the primary impetus of secession to begin with!) would be paid for by taxes levied on other vices, specifically prostitution and gambling (meaning that these vices have to be legalized and supported adequately or there will be an inadequate tax base). I wonder if/how this plan/perspective has evolved.
@moepow8160
@moepow8160 Год назад
I move up here in Shasta co. a few years ago and it is different then the urban areas. People up here don't pay a lot of attention to silly laws & mandates, they just don't care. When the pandemic hit you could hardly tell there was one. Stores, gas stations, etc were absent mask signs. Some might have wrote a few words on a piece of paper and any government building had all the signage and rules for masks. Building codes for out structures were ignored, my towns are unincorporated and property owner are very serious about their property lines...don't cross them without permission. Now the Marijuana growers are up here in spring, can't grow dope in the snow, but eventually they get busted. It is quite, peaceful, and not too expensive it was much better before the economy went down the tube. But the people are resourceful, if wood is too hight then cut your own, the county will let you cut some wood with a inexpensive permit. There's a lot of water wells up here with plenty of water. No sirens, traffic, airplane, etc. The toughest things I'd say are wild animals, be very careful going out at night I was attacked getting my mail one night. And the snow if you have a blower its not too bad if not, pick up a snow shovel...if you let you place go to heck I guess it's easy living, but if you keep your property up it's a lot of work and will last longer unlike the others, the weather will take its toll on everything. And you might make it through the fires. I guess it's all in how you want to live. If you pick the right spot to live, town is not far and you can shop, eat, and get medical attention... just about anything you want then drive back home and relax.
@estherthorp1608
@estherthorp1608 Год назад
Diversity will be missing with that you become small oregon is vast and beautiful I like seeing all colors and cultures with equally for every age for all people
@yetimelly523
@yetimelly523 3 года назад
Let California secede and name Jefferson 50th state.
@DinoCon
@DinoCon 3 года назад
Better yet, give Hawaii it's independence back and have Jefferson be the new 50th. Two bull's-eyes, one arrow.
@yetimelly523
@yetimelly523 3 года назад
@@DinoCon Could work as well
@thoughtsurferzone5012
@thoughtsurferzone5012 3 года назад
I'm up for it if Puerto Rico, Guam and D.C. are also included. And quite honestly, the rest of California needs to be divided, too.
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 года назад
I 100% agree California is way to big in land area for no reason
@walt4285
@walt4285 Год назад
Hahahaha hilarious
@brookingsbeachcomber
@brookingsbeachcomber 4 года назад
sounds like all the same reasons Trump got elected...
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
Trumpers say their orange god is the very best president ever, and the country is doing incredibly awesome. and then in the next sentence they'll say that their lives are horribly awful because of California. They can't make their minds up.
@davewilliams5102
@davewilliams5102 4 года назад
@@kbanghart Plen Please take your Liberals Views off of this Vidoe. Stay in Shiy* Cali..
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@davewilliams5102 no, I've infected these videos with my libtard commie views 😁
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 3 года назад
@@davewilliams5102 There are State of Jefferson flags in California too, even south of Sacramento.
@barbarascott828
@barbarascott828 3 года назад
Colt there will be taxation in the State of Jefferson, the difference is that it will not be taxation that is more than it needs to be. We will not over tax everything like California is doing to us now!
@matthewbolton4289
@matthewbolton4289 3 месяца назад
East of the cascadea are 90% republicans. West of cascades are predominately democrats. All but 3 countys in oregon are red. But we have to live by what thise 3 countys want. Its egregious!
@americanpatriotparty-natio5347
@americanpatriotparty-natio5347 4 года назад
What would you gain with only one new state ran by another easily federally controlled bureaucracy; You need to expand the interest by giving ALL counties the right to statehood. Oregon became a state with 40,000 to 80,000 people, this should be a MAXIMUM amount of population needed to automatically establish statehood; If your movement put as much effort into encouraging ALL counties to demand statehood, you would have far more support because more communities would benefit. As importantly, breaking up the federal control by making so many states they could not control, you would break up the federal and large state power structures; and in so doing, empower local communities to have the adequate representation the Constitution intended. American Patriot Party .CC National Headquarters www.americanpatriotparty.cc Facebook: facebook.com/AmericanPatriotPartyNationalHeadquarters
@barbarascott828
@barbarascott828 3 года назад
American Patriot Party - National Headquarters you would have to have counties with a large enough population that could support it as a state. Mariposa’s population is only 18,000 people, economically one of the poorest counties. There is no way we could fund or establish statehood.
@ericdillon7467
@ericdillon7467 Год назад
Jefferson is like Appalachia of the N.W., shhhhh, none of your business of the woods will kill you then stay out of the woods! ;)
@lizabethrobison4566
@lizabethrobison4566 Год назад
I live in this area (northern California). I do NOT believe in nor do I embrace this delusion, even as the joke it is!
@Zachariah_
@Zachariah_ 3 года назад
Session is a patriotic duty and we as Californians have the right to decide to leave California in favor of our own state! The state of Jefferson Now!!
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
actually you don't have the right. i read the constitution of the state and united states. sorry, but individuals don't have the right. the assemblies of all states have to agree to forming a new state - that means that california and oregon both have to vote for it. without the votes it doesn't happen. so, democratically we can change it, but you don't have the right because that right is not in any constitutions and these are what give rights. So, keep spewing that crap but you literally have a snowballs chance in hell of creating a real state. read the laws and constitutions yourself, since you're so smart.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
You know you do have the right to leave the state for literally any other state? Like…. No one’s keeping you there. 😂
@Zachariah_
@Zachariah_ 9 месяцев назад
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore It’s a about freedom from a tyrannical regime and we will gain our independence!
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
@@Zachariah_ like state independence? Or like it’s own country? What do you mean? I mean you know Jefferson isn’t going to be just some free for all state where any goes right? 😂. You know it’s still going to be subject to federal law?😂
@Zachariah_
@Zachariah_ 9 месяцев назад
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Obviously? It’s not going to have state income tax though and will be a lot more affordable than California with the benefit of being close to California if you really want to go. It will be a great state it’s not a question of if but when. Now this isn’t a good example but remember the revolutionaries in old Russia that formed the Soviet Union and the Germans who formed the workers party only won 1-5% of their national and state elections on average for 5-10 years. Once we put a candidate up for the state of Jefferson (which we haven’t done yet because nobody in the movement has taken that step) we would win 15-20% of state elections in California…. What does that do for us? Let’s say it’s the governor election and we put a state of Jefferson candidate who isn’t Republican or Democrat the results would look like this: Democrat wins 55% of the vote Republican Candidate wins 25% of the vote State of Jefferson candidate wins 20% of the vote. We won’t win the elections just like the Soviets and the Nazis in their early years, but don’t you think that will send a message by achieving those results? We have the funding we just need a candidate….
@patsyspry6248
@patsyspry6248 4 года назад
I’m a native Oregonian, who prefers living in the DEEP SOUTH!
@jacobbutler6049
@jacobbutler6049 4 года назад
You must not of lived in Oregon to long the south is way to hot to live in if you was raised in the northwest
@cwd243
@cwd243 4 года назад
From back water GA. Now in OR. You should love the south. Same racist old white jesus freaks. Just a rebel flag instead of the XXs. Lol.
@jacobbutler6049
@jacobbutler6049 4 года назад
I'm native American don't think u would
@andrewdisney8475
@andrewdisney8475 Год назад
Can I find a Wife there?
@matthius1692
@matthius1692 Год назад
I’m from Sacramento I’d move to the state of Jefferson tomorrow if it came to be. I wouldn’t bring any of my city’s moronic politics with me either.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
You know you can move there now right? 😂 like it’s not like the area doesn’t exist. You can literally go there right now. 😂
@matthius1692
@matthius1692 9 месяцев назад
The state of Jefferson doesn’t exist. If I move to Chico I’m still in California. That was the whole point of this video. They want the state of Jefferson to be separate from California and Oregon.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
@@matthius1692 yea but if the attitudes there reflect your views more than your current cities “moronic” policies than why not just move to that part of California/Oregon? Or anywhere else. There’s literally 49 other states you could choose to live in. You don’t have to be like: “if this mythical fantasy land opened I would move there…. But sadly I am stuck where I am.”
@matthius1692
@matthius1692 9 месяцев назад
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore So I guess we're doing a 60 minutes on my youtube comment. Alright well almost everyone I know is in norcal so moving to another state would be problematic. I see no benefit moving up there just because their views are similar to mine. This video brought up a concept where a border (not far from me) would become part of a new state of Jefferson. So I left a comment on the video saying if the state of Jefferson came to be I would move there. Its a pretty simple comment. I didn't say anything about mystical fantasylands. Im sorry your having such a hard time grasping it. How do I make it simpler for you?
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
@@matthius1692 it’ll never exist without people making the move. Come on now. Do you think America would exist if the pilgrims had stayed in holland and been like “well I guess I’ll go if someone else founds it”? Hell would California exist if everyone on these east coast had gone: “what? They found gold? Well… that sounds cool but… look I need some infrastructure and a federally recognized state government before I’m willing to go.” ?
@SHC713
@SHC713 2 года назад
Siskiyou!
@weebeevillaging587
@weebeevillaging587 Год назад
It’s been over 100 years, why hasn’t the state of Jefferson created a tax base that has increased their lot in life. Why is the state of Jefferson still so dependent on the tax base of their states largest cities. Why are they still a welfare state? Where will they get the funds to pay their respective states for the infrastructure the largest metropolitan areas have paid for. Are Oregon and California just supposed to give this up with no compensation?
@HyperActive7
@HyperActive7 3 года назад
I had to share this because I live in Texas, which wants to secede along with Florida and a couple other states. If Jefferson wants to join us, we'll welcome them with open hands.
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 года назад
Florida never wanted to secede that's only Texas Jefferson is trying to become there own state not secede from the union literally no other state wants to secede that's Kalyan Texas Florida is one of the most Patriotic states they fly the most American flags in the USA
@vt100music
@vt100music Год назад
texas is turning blue yeeeeeeeee. no where to run for you.
@micmic9410
@micmic9410 Год назад
@@Steve-zc9httexas is mostly a Mexico state- cowboys originally for México. The culture is well rooted.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 9 месяцев назад
Oh god I wish Texas would secede. It would be hilarious to watch that place become a third world country over night and see folks immediately come begging, hat in hand, for help from Uncle Sam. Texans might say they want independence but they proved ~170 years ago they aren’t at all prepared to handle it. Probably the most insecure place on the planet tbh. 😂
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 7 месяцев назад
Federal government/military would squash you secessionist losers just like before. Go ahead, try.
@MatConlon
@MatConlon 9 месяцев назад
6:20 "Acquiring land from other countries, and Native Americans". Well he's not wrong, but he sure did miss out a lot of history right there; no prizes for guessing why.
@VanishedPNW
@VanishedPNW Год назад
Every western and mid-western state has large swaths of geographic area which feels collectively "underrepresented." Typically, they are, simply because they don't move the polls and they have absolutely zero economic impact. Politicians flock to largely popular urban centers because that's where everyone lives, that's where the economic power is, and that's the place that gets them into office. Why the hell would they give a shit about Drain? I do, but I don't live my life for re-election. It's common sense, really. Yeah, our farmers are vital, but let's not act like it's some nebulous, below the line non-profit representing a bevy of selfless, charitable causes. I think a lot of farmers forget that the universe turned before them and will be just fine after them, they care about farming because THEY farm, and they farm to make money, period.
@matthewwolf3531
@matthewwolf3531 3 года назад
"were different from the rest of the state, and remember that." Yep. Oregon and California get a real bad rap by outsiders, but a lot of people dont understand that the people in this part are very different. I have to say, this is the most libertarian section of the country there is. They hate taxes, love guns, work hard, are family orientated and of good character. They also think pot should be able to pretty much do as you please so long as you are not hurting anyone else. Unfortunately, places like Redding, Medford, and Grants Pass are in Oregon and California, and not their own state of Jefferson. Homelessness is the worst issue with this area. Get rid of the liberal policies protecting drug addicts and mentally ill people and we could clean the streets up. It honestly is one of the most beautiful places in the Country in my opinion, and industry is growing around the Rouge Valley area where I live.
@yadidimeanmaine
@yadidimeanmaine 3 года назад
I grew up in the Rogue Valley. We tend to lean center-right libertarian. I think that same-sex couples should be able to legally guard their pot farms with machine guns and pay no tax on their yield. That pretty much sums it up.
@matthewwolf3531
@matthewwolf3531 3 года назад
@@yadidimeanmaine ya exactly.
@AlexM-ki4ex
@AlexM-ki4ex 4 года назад
I lived in Jacksonville OR and the state of Jefferson is the stupidest idea ever. Just be an Oregonian or Californian. Keep wishing for a state to grow meth, pot, and hillbillies. Hate to break it to you but before the colonizers came this region had its own name personality and that didn’t involve the silly stay of Jefferson.
@MattCookOregon
@MattCookOregon 4 года назад
Agree! Hey Jacksonville?! Know of any good old goldmine history spots over there?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@colt236 which part of it is good?
@cwd243
@cwd243 4 года назад
Nothing like listening to "jefferson" public radio while driving on "dead indian" road. smh.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 года назад
@@cwd243 lol wow
@quantum7690
@quantum7690 4 года назад
@@colt236 alot of "Jeffersons" are pot growers and they want freedom to do so
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