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@jimderksen1653
@jimderksen1653 Год назад
I am an HVAC and a refrigeration tech. During the Y2K scare I converted furnaces very simply so that a homeowner could unplug his furnace from the grid and plug it into an extension cord that went to a standby generator. It is very easy to do.
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
What you did is against the NEC. Why do you think they are not wired like that to begin with? You should go back to every single one of those changes and repair them as to their original installation.
@nicksnyder7344
@nicksnyder7344 Год назад
@@ezgeneratorswitch4u Can you please explain. Thanks
@kimberHD45
@kimberHD45 Год назад
@@nicksnyder7344 I believe they’re referring to (on a gas furnace) switching the hot but not mechanically disconnecting the neutral, thereby not preventing back feed from returning to the panel and to the transformer?
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
@@kimberHD45 No, Referring to a cord and plug attachement
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
@@nicksnyder7344 Heating systems, either gas, propane or oil cannot be fed with a cord attachment from the unit. Otherwise, it would come from the factory with a cord like a refrigerator. Feeding a unit during a power outage must be done thru an approved transfer system with a label. Even a licensed electrician is not allowed to circumvent the code, losing your license and then Insurance companies can really make your life miserable should there be an issue. A prime example was a homeowner back feeding his dryer receptacle for the entire house during an outage, A fire started with in the wall and burnt the house down. Insurance company claimed it was negligence and refused to pay the claim, I don't know the final outcome.
@nastimusnateimus
@nastimusnateimus Год назад
Good tip about finishing the cycle to let the exhanger cool! 👍🏻👍🏻
@tundramanq
@tundramanq Год назад
I like the full isolation switching for both feeds that saves people by protecting from confused hot/neutral wiring in some DIYer homes.
@mightystorm9688
@mightystorm9688 Год назад
I installed the EZ Generator Switch a couple of months ago on my boiler as I did not want to risk having the pipes and radiators freeze. Used it for the first time last week when the power was out for a day. Some areas around us had been out for weeks. The EZ Generator Switch is well made in the USA.
@stancoleshill8925
@stancoleshill8925 Год назад
Gonna take a long time for the pipes to "freeze" then some more time to split.
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
@@stancoleshill8925 24 hrs
@jameshwang4750
@jameshwang4750 Год назад
@@ezgeneratorswitch4u Just ask all those TX guys with frozen busted pipes couple of years ago.
@development602ify
@development602ify Год назад
Hi Dave I installed your home designed switch and it works great. My question is on your generator. I saw the one you have at Costco and almost bought it, but was worried about damaging the circuit board controller in the furnace with the output not being a sine wave. So I bought a 2500 watt inverter generator that has pure sine wave output. This works perfect and is very quiet. I had to replace the circuit board once after mice did some chewing on the wires for the AC. That was a $400 repair. I understand some generators have a cleaner output voltage than others. Even my fridge and dishwasher have electronic control circuit boards. Thanks again for the great videos you do. You are such a honest person. Like you said so many trades people try to rip you off in to days world. I have learned so much from you. Take care and keep your videos coming. PS I was to Salt Lake city a few years ago and loved it, even the 3.2 beer.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Lol the beer situation is getting better pretty quickly :) thanks for the kind words! Cheers
@avflyguy
@avflyguy Год назад
I have done essentially the same thing. Have a 5500 watt _non inverter generator_ to power things like motors, lights, electric blankets, coffee pot, elec skillet and griddles, etc. The inverter generator (2500 watt duel/fuel) is for the furnace and electonics (TV, computers, routers for internet). Would be a shame if a non inverter generator smoked a sensitive board in the furnace and other sensitive electronics, then when power came back on, you'd have to wait for HVAC folks to replace the board.
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Год назад
Excellent response. Having a QUIET INVERTER generator is the only way to go. A lot of people don't know that the clean power an inverter genny gives you is essential to keep from damaging anything electronic, which is MOST appliances these days
@mattthomson1689
@mattthomson1689 Год назад
Very nice presentation. Great voice. Liked your caution about letting the furnace cool down before switching generator power OFF, although IF line power has been restored, it would seem using the switch on the EZ unit would sufficiently protect the furnace. Still, this was a very excellent safety note. Perhaps including the device electrical diagram would also also provide clarity for many of us. Thank you!
@alp3781
@alp3781 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for that. I ordered the ECO-FLOW Gen and going to do the same thing. Not cheap, but clean energy and stays in the basement. Will use it to run the sump pump too. This transfer switch is the key.
@DerekFletcher1
@DerekFletcher1 Год назад
I bought those wago lever nuts a few months back and I couldn't be more impressed. I used them on a kitchen light install and was thoroughly impressed because I was dealing with solid core strand wire mix to connect. The wago's are agnostic to that and saved me a bunch of time. Ordering the Klein Tools bit driver next.
@jackl9922
@jackl9922 Год назад
Local inspector might like that better than my pigtail. Glad you mentioned not a hard power change. Only happens to me when power goes out.
@shanefarley3575
@shanefarley3575 Год назад
I removed the switch added a power cord to my furnace and a single outlet in a 2 x 4 box where the switch was. Plug my furnace in during normal times to the single dedicated circuit outlet same as it was before. Then during a outage I can just unplug it from that outlet and plug it into my generator drop cord. No special boxes or parts needed and serves the same purpose. Works great. I converted mine to this when I lost power for several hours I’m a winter storm years ago.
@lloydrmc
@lloydrmc Год назад
Have you tested it? I'm told many furnaces won't work if they're not bonded to Neutral
@chamberizer
@chamberizer Год назад
I recently installed a similar Generator Transfer Switch. I installed it inline with the electric utility line before it gets to the furnace. I attached two small switch size boxes. One on both sides using conduit to the generator box. One was to make the connections black & white for power coming from normal position - power from utility company. One was to make connections black & white going to the load (furnace). All boxes were grounded. I mounted on wood & attached to a beam in my basement. I did not have to mess with wires on.or in the furnace at all. I think my method is less intimidating to a DIY person.
@zipkeen8339
@zipkeen8339 8 месяцев назад
. I really like that you mentioned the transition time when changing away from the generator
@avflyguy
@avflyguy 9 месяцев назад
On some of the newer furnaces, with a floating neutral generator, these things need a bonded neutral plug.
@MrMike-fn4hi
@MrMike-fn4hi Год назад
Nice! I recommended this in your first video. This is correct way to go about it.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Thanks for the recommendation :) cheers
@ralphmills7322
@ralphmills7322 Год назад
It is an elegant solution to get emergency power to your furnace. If I didn't already got the parts for your previous D.I.Y. I would be tempted.
@lloydrmc
@lloydrmc Год назад
Previous DIY solution might back feed, which could injure or kill utility personnel during a power outage. Please check on this.
@John-cj3ve
@John-cj3ve 10 месяцев назад
I had an electrician install two of these exact switches! One for my furnace, and one for my freezer.
@bobwhammer4237
@bobwhammer4237 11 месяцев назад
I basically wired in a heavy duty appliance extension cord to the junction box for my boiler. I simply isolated that connection back to my main panel by shutting off that circuit breaker.
@pauldirschka7052
@pauldirschka7052 Год назад
If one is fortunate enough to own a Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6, both have 120volt 1800 watt inverters that will run that heater many days!
@richardkawucha1232
@richardkawucha1232 7 месяцев назад
When I wired my garage, I ran all the wiring underground, in plastic conduit. I ran an unconnected romex from my house to the garage. I then wired a box, in the garage, so I can run an extension cord to the garage box. In the house, the end of the romex is wired into a mounted box. This way I don't have extension cords running through a door and down stairs. I was going disconnect the furnace (from the panel) to temporarily (in the event of power loss) wire a plug on the furnace. This is a better, safer way to power it.
@King_TuTT
@King_TuTT 8 месяцев назад
You don't need us fancy gizmo I simply put an extension cord on the internal power of the furnace and then took my switch and made it into a wall plug I plugged the furnace into the wall plug when I'm normal power and then when I loose power I unplug that and plug it in to an extension cord going into my generator is all the power It works great
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Год назад
The beauty of a forced air gas furnace is that the electric load is pretty small because it only powers the fan. All the heating energy comes from the gas supply, which is not cut during a power outage . because the electricity requirement is low only a small generator is needed to run the blower and keep your house warm. A few months ago during a heavy snowstorm My neighbor and I lost power for about a day and I ended up rewiring both our furnace blower power so that the leads to the blower had a male extension cord plug and the house supply ended with a female plug. Now , under normal conditions my furnace blower is plugged into the house plug but if we lose power then I pull the plug and use an extension cord from my 4500 watt inverter generator to run the blower. The disconnect rig as shown in this video runs about 90 bucks but is really the best way to go if you want to spend the money. I was in a hurry to get the furnace running so I went the cheap route. Someday I'll do it right but in the meantime it works fine even if its not code. We rarely lose power so its not like Im constantly having to repatch power to the furnace all the time.
@hollandjones2957
@hollandjones2957 10 месяцев назад
How do you find the startup and running amps (load) for your gas furnace and blower? I need to see if my generator has the capacity, or if the solar battery pack I’m eyeing will run the gas furnace and blower. Thank you in advance!
@SimonBarsinister
@SimonBarsinister 10 месяцев назад
​@hollandjones2957 look up the furnace manual for your make and model. Find horse power of motor and convert to watts using formula. Control board is probably negligible.
@KrustyKlown
@KrustyKlown 8 месяцев назад
Install a ventless Gas Fireplace insert instead. Heats my whole house when power goes out.. no messing with generators .. and it's nice to have a working fireplace.
@BrianNC81
@BrianNC81 Год назад
Finally got whole home interlock installed and installed soft start on one of the central AC units. I can run the whole house on predator 8750 inverter along with AC on one floor of the house.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Nice! I’m hoping to get that setup soon on my place.
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Год назад
Today on a new Gavin's Garage channel in the comments he mentioned that Genmax will soon be putting out a 9000 watt inverter genny that is TRI-FUEL , so with a gas line connection you can have a whole house solution without refilling gas or even propane. YUM!
@BrianNC81
@BrianNC81 Год назад
@@BradiKal61 I may install the motor snorkel kit to go NG. Have to see if the gas line in my garage where the water heater connects can provide enough flow to run it.
8 месяцев назад
Just a pigtail and a duplex outlet, isiot proof, easy, cheap and guarentees one power source with no backfeed. KISS
@howtodoitdude1662
@howtodoitdude1662 8 месяцев назад
Nice video. I would use an auto inverter for this application. If a generator is used, might as well connect it to your main panel.
@davidyummus6259
@davidyummus6259 11 месяцев назад
I find this box expensive but your other video's show cheaper options :) This stuff is fun & great to do because it gives confidents in being prepared,... At my old house & simply changed a Junction Box where the Boiler was wired to an outlet with plug to run the Hot Water Heat with an inverter,... This house I wire an outdoor Generator Inlet Box directly to a 20 amp double outlet inside the house to make a dedicated Generator outlet to run Fridge, Freezer, TV, Internet & Pellet Stove & this cost me maybe $60 to do :)
@HariSeldon913
@HariSeldon913 7 месяцев назад
Much simpler than the way I did it, but I don't think these were around 12 years ago. I also paid 1/10th as much for parts.
@lynx93tk
@lynx93tk Год назад
I like the idea of having the EZ Generator switch in the boiler closet ready to go in case we lose power. In our case, if we lose power, we not only lose heat, but we also lose hot water (on demand). I would use my Bluetti AC200P to power the boiler. I'm going to order one of these, and feel that peace of mind is worth the the price of $96.00 .
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
There is a link to them in the video description 👍🏼 cheers
@lynx93tk
@lynx93tk Год назад
@@diyhvacguy Dave, after opening up the various boxes in the boiler closet, and taking photos of the connections, I ordered an EZ Generator Switch and the box of assorted WAGO connectors from the links in your video description. They should arrive by Tuesday of next week! Needless to say, I am excited about this project which will ensure that we will have heat and hot water during a power failure. Thanks again for all that you to help make peoples' lives easier and safer.
@larryhall7998
@larryhall7998 Год назад
Just installed E-Z switch to my boiler, was always afraid of my pipes freezing if I lost power! Only took me 30 years to install it!
@Filmaker25
@Filmaker25 Год назад
Did you see sir the idea of using tea candles and Cl;ay plant pots?
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 Год назад
Ideally, you would want the circuits for the furnace, the refrigerator and whatever else you want on emergency power such as your water heater and a few lights on a sub panel with a "transfer switch" with a run out to an external socket for the generator outside your home so that you can avoid the carbon monoxide risks of running a generator. Now, with the possibility of running emergency power from an inverter plugged into the DC fast charge ports of an EV, you may want the generator port in your garage with an extension to the outside so you have the option of installing the backup power equipment of whatever EV you might buy in the future. You can find kits if the sub panel, transfer switch and external socket from hardware stores such as Home Depot for about $800 but running the wires could vary depending on the location of your main circuit panel. If you have solar panels, you may want to see what could be done there and have the run pass through an area where you would have space for a battery bank, solar charger and inverter.
@srmofoable
@srmofoable 11 месяцев назад
What you just described is just a transfer switch. Your analogy to solar is not going to work though unless you have a battery bank which easily doubles the cost of a system.... and if you have a battery bank why are you worried about emergency power? Modern solar systems are designed so that if main power is dead so is your solar.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 11 месяцев назад
@@srmofoable Did you even read? My post actually said it is a "transfer switch"...
@pjfsr7024
@pjfsr7024 Год назад
My generator has a floating neutral, people with a floating neutral have to do a minor reconfig, basically remove the two long whites and replace the short white with one of the long whites.
@MichaelR58
@MichaelR58 Год назад
Good instructional video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Very welcome
@TheBushey
@TheBushey Год назад
I just put an outlet on the wall, have a cord with a plug on the end coming out of the furnace
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 Год назад
Same as I suggested in a comment on an earlier video and most building suply big box stores carry the junction box and cover as well as the female plug and double pole double throw switch so it's easy DIY unit depending on the price of the factory built one if it's under 30$ it's easier to just buy the unit anything more it's how comfortable you are with DIY
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
It is not a just Double throw switch. All transfer switches are required to have make before break switches.
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 Год назад
@@ezgeneratorswitch4u if it makes before it.breaks that means the first power supply is still live when you turn on the second one at that point you have 2 120. circuit's feeding 1; appliance. and not insink a double pole double throw turns off both the hot and the neutral from one circuit before it turns on the second hot and neutral
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
@@douglaswindsor120 I promise as a Licensed electrician and a teacher for the NEC. A double pole double throw center position off (make before break) switch is what is required for a transfer switch.
@tjinnertube
@tjinnertube Год назад
Recc’d you put your transfer switch to “off” prior to plugging up the x tension cord then turn switch to “generator”.
@allan6344
@allan6344 Год назад
The EZ Generator Switch is a much better solution than the home brew in your earlier video. They are well made, come with documentation and you could assemble your own but you would spend more time finding all of the parts etc.
@lloydrmc
@lloydrmc Год назад
[edit] EZ Switch rep explains elsewhere in these comments that the cheap version elsewhere on Amazon is an illegal imitation that isn't safety tested at all, and wired wrong to boot. Either factor would change everything, much less both. I am buying the real deal EZ Switch when I buy one of these. ******* Original Post ********* Agreed. This is essentially the exact same thing I recommended at the time, except at a higher cost, b/c it includes all the pigtails and has detailed directions. The good news is, if you follow an affiliate link, then buy ANYTHING that Amazon session, the affiliate gets the exact same "finder's fee" percentage.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 Год назад
Stock the EZ Generator Switch come set up for a bonded neutral generator. The Firman generator is a bonded neutral so that part is correct. It means it will switch not only the hot but the neutral leads. You will need to have a proper ground rod installed for the generator in the case of a ground fault. I don't see that you did that. If you modified the switch to be set up for a floating neutral generator then you can use the existing grounding rod for your panel as the earth ground for the generator. One more note, if you have not run that Firman generator at all, it is highly recommended that you run it on gasoline for a minimum of 5 to 6 hours before running it on any gaseous fuel and change the oil. This gives the engine a chance to establish its wear patterns on the piston rings and cylinder walls. Changing the engine oil within the first 5-6 hrs makes sure you do not leave those metal contaminants from the wear in process to cause premature damage and failure to that engine. Most people forget this step and they wonder why the generator doesn't last very long. Great video and information, I thought about getting this switch just for the furnace but wound up going with a 10 circuit transfer switch for small appliances and an interlock breaker to handle the heavier loads like the electric hot water heater.
@shep6123
@shep6123 Год назад
I like that propane and gas generator that’s pretty cool I only use propane for my heat that be awesome to have the hook up that way I can still use the gas from the propane that is pretty awesome I like it that was pretty good I like it because I’m trying to get off grid right now because we keep losing power because of storms people hit polls knocking powerline down this time again this year we had us severe thunderstorms not trees down broker power pole now we had no power for five days and I’m sick of it
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 Год назад
Okay followed your link and find it quite costly up here in Canada first they say add over 20 $ for shipping and another charge neither is the GST or over 25 %added for our lower dollar parts at my local building suply store is around 30.$50 at most I'm going to price it out next time I'm in town may have to wait until I'm in the city as our farm suply store has limited products and I doubt either Wal-Mart or Canadian Tire carrys the switch or male plug
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
Just a FYI > You will have no approved label doing it yourself and Canadian and USA codes only allow installation with an approved label.
@keovongvilaykeo4799
@keovongvilaykeo4799 Год назад
Always thanks you more learning from you keeps it up. 😊
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
My pleasure 😊
@sjpropertyservices3987
@sjpropertyservices3987 8 месяцев назад
Oink to go the time and expense of installing this why not install generator connection? I recently installed a 30 amp receptacle for my generator and an Interlock ,safety switch at the main service panel. I can run all essentials and a few additional circuits with our 9000/7250 generator. Including the 10/3 wire (50' as I installed receptacle in attached garage and panel is in basement) I spent less than $200.
@yeroca
@yeroca Год назад
Do they recommend plugging the generator while the switch is in "Generator" position? I would have set it to off, plug it in, then switch it to generator, so that I decrease any chance for arc'ing while plugging in the extension cord.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Probably so, yes. Any arching that can be eliminated is always a good thing.
@Playlist-yz8de
@Playlist-yz8de 27 дней назад
So I have done this. My “generator” is a battery with a 2700 W inverter, plenty of power to run the 15 amp circuit. For some reason the oil burner won’t start up. It’s not that it tries and fails, but rather never even tries. Is there some sort of grounding issue that is preventing some circuitry from seeing the “generator?”
@markklopf
@markklopf 27 дней назад
So with that warning... I should tell my electric company to wait until I'm out of heat cycle before they can have a power outage?😂
@joparks2509
@joparks2509 8 месяцев назад
Can you plug that EZ Generator Switch to a Solar "generator" like the Bluetti AC200 Max? My house already has a transfer switch for our gas generator. But during the January 2024 arctic blast or whatever snow dump, we found out that we could not use the gas generator because there was like 2 feet of snow in our yard.
@hardymichael533
@hardymichael533 Год назад
Test eco flow delta pro 3,600 KWH
@GamerNxUSN
@GamerNxUSN 8 месяцев назад
Is there a reason why someone would go with this over just a regular 30 or 50 amp generator plug?
@scottweinstein4255
@scottweinstein4255 Год назад
Hmm, both my furnaces are run to switches across the attic. I'll have to think about how to do this correctly.
@wayneguy6043
@wayneguy6043 Год назад
Some say this will fry your board….
@drloomis7260
@drloomis7260 Год назад
All you need is 30 amps to run a normal house get a twistlock plug that matches the generator or back feed through your dryer outlet if possible just make a long cord and only turn off your main and only turn on what’s necessary like furnace- refrigerator and some general lights/outlets
@CannonFodder873
@CannonFodder873 Год назад
Sure....Don't worry about that linesman working on the transformer that you'd be back-feeding current to, that's supposedly "safely" de-energized.🤔
@briharrison
@briharrison Год назад
Any chance you could do a video showing the install/explaining wiring for a floating neutral generator setup?
@dannyh9010
@dannyh9010 8 месяцев назад
YES! I would really appreciate that video!!!
@rw4669
@rw4669 Год назад
Your videos are great. Will you ever do videos on best ways to power deep well 220v water pumps?
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
Here is the issue with 240 volts/ well pumps. First your generator must be able to have a 30-amp outlet, you then need an adapter for that outlet reduced to 20 amps @ 240 volts. Then your extension cord (12 gauge or larger) needs to have 20 amp (Nema 6-20P) installed on it. You will probably never find a cord with those ends. Once you make a cord yourself obviously there will be no label (ETL or =) To make matters worse depending on the size of the pump you may need a soft start for that motor, so you don't kill your generator. Motor start up can be tricky, and more important....where is your protection for that well pump motor? Cook that motor and you are looking at a costly repair. That's my 2 cents.
@danstojic5643
@danstojic5643 Год назад
Nice video!
@TimBucktooy
@TimBucktooy Год назад
Most Excellent !!!
@kennethschuring1242
@kennethschuring1242 Год назад
After watching this video I purchased an EZ Generator switch. There are instructions with it that show modifying it for use with a generator that has a floating neutral. I see that you did not do this. Is there a reason for not using the modification that the manufacturer suggests? Does a floating neutral on the generator affect the installation and operation? Thanks.
@LA-rl1lu
@LA-rl1lu 8 месяцев назад
Does using a Dual Pole Dual Throw (DPDT) switch accomplish the same thing to isolate the two power sources (house power and generator power) as the device shown? In other words, if I use a DPDT switch with house power coming in, generator extension cord coming in, and the output goes to the gas-fueled heater do I still have the same benefit and safety?
@TonyNovation
@TonyNovation 7 месяцев назад
How would I install one of these if my HVAC switch is in the wall like a normal light switch?
@shep6123
@shep6123 Год назад
Oh another question should you have one of those on your panels power panels when the power is off are you going to make sure you shut all the power off to the furnace as Aiko a block that you can’t turn it on because the powers off to run just you I’m talking about what you column you to put on your panel outside because you’re getting a power do you wanna make sure the power somebody don’t come by and turn it on it stops on turn it on by accident
@djeremyperkins
@djeremyperkins Год назад
With regards to the ominous sounding warning of a cracked heat exchanger: should I contact my electric utility to let them know not to have power outages when my furnace is mid-cycle?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
🤣 that’s a good point. It happens, but we shouldn’t do it on purpose if it can be avoided
@ussreeves
@ussreeves Год назад
😂😂😂😂 Yes, I’ve done that. I’ve found them to be very accommodating.😊😊😊
@BigBearHostel
@BigBearHostel Год назад
I was wondering if it is worth putting a UPS on the FAU to avoid unpowered sudden shutdowns in power outages to prevent this possible damage. ?
@ecolawnaeratorcompanycanada
@ecolawnaeratorcompanycanada 10 месяцев назад
A valid concern for many appliances with many power systems surges and outages!!
@squealer42
@squealer42 8 месяцев назад
I have a larger, dual-fuel Firman. When connecting to my "whole house" generator panel, it only yields a "click click" noise from my newer gas-furnace. I'm wondering if adding a capacitor to the branch circuit might help, or if only hope = pure sine wave inverter.
@nauhteeboy
@nauhteeboy 8 месяцев назад
Where is the 220v version?
@timmayer8041
@timmayer8041 Год назад
Create a double male extension cord and plug it into an outside circuit, as long as you turn off the grid power you can feed the entire house including the furnace, you can turn off other circuits to not overload the generator
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
That my friend is called a suicide cord. Will it work, absolutely. Is it super safe, no. But it’s probably worth creating a video on 😀
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Год назад
​​@@diyhvacguy People complain its irresponsible to even make a video showing the gas furnace pigtail re-wire method, so a suicide cord how-to will get flamed BIGTIME! 😅
@sheepdog401
@sheepdog401 11 месяцев назад
So I guess if the generator runs out of gas and shuts off in the middle of a heat cycle you could crack the heat exchanger ? Something to think about if power is off for a long period of time.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 11 месяцев назад
That’s if it happens a lot. One time isn’t going to do it, unless it’s a really really old furnace and the heat exchanger is already borderline bad.
@HobbyOrganist
@HobbyOrganist Год назад
I havent watched all the way thru yet, but wasnt the problem with connecting a stand-alone battery or generator to the furnace an issue with the furnace ground for the electronics not recognizing a ground connecting to a battery or generator and the furnace doesnt work? If I remember from another video, the furnace had to be grounded to the main panel's ground
@NikosDelight
@NikosDelight 9 месяцев назад
What do you do if you have a condensate pump in the mix where would those wires go ?
@Stewie81693
@Stewie81693 9 месяцев назад
I’m not saying you aren’t correct for doing this. But for like $4 and with a piece of old extension cord I just converted it to a plug and installed a free outlet my father gave me. Now I can just throw an extension cord down the stairs. Same concept less effort and money.
@shep6123
@shep6123 Год назад
Question I just found out which outer I could probably could can’t remember that is that a 15 amp extension cord did they make bigger or shorter you need a 15 amp number eight wire right
@mikecaster4612
@mikecaster4612 Год назад
Amazon has a generic version of the transfer switch for $69.99 with $10 off coupon. The only difference is that there is no "EZ" on the front. It has all the marked wires (no red wire) just like your video shows.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Good to know! I might include that in the description as well. Cheers
@search_eternal
@search_eternal Год назад
Link please
@mikecaster4612
@mikecaster4612 Год назад
@@search_eternal If you type in "generator transfer switch Briidea" - that should display the generic version of the transfer switch.
@mikecaster4612
@mikecaster4612 Год назад
@@Kevin-mp5of All of the parts are UL listed and the box is not that complicated - just have a real electrician install it. He will tell you if it is not up to code before he puts it in, then you are good with your insurance company. I buy generic items like store brand food and generic drugs so; I look for the better deal, not the absolute cheapest. I won't stop you from buying or paying for name brand items but, a hundred bucks for a junction box, switch, 15-amp breaker and a recessed male plug, oh, and some 14-gauge wire - seems like a lot. I do notice that the EZ is now only $95.99 instead of the 129.99 it was back in November when I bought the generic version. I guess a little competition never hurts.
@ezgeneratorswitch4u
@ezgeneratorswitch4u Год назад
@mike caster the Chinese switch you are referring to is infringing on our patent. Amazon and the lawyers are aware of this issue, but the process is long. I have had their copy of our switch in my hands, it's not even close and more importantly than the fact they have zero testing and no label...Their switch is absolutely wired wrong. You get what you pay for, I can promise you that is this instance. How much support are you going to get from China? and would you really trust them with your question about USA electrical codes?
@Mo-P
@Mo-P Год назад
So should I do this instead of the other video you did or is it just as good?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
It accomplishes the same thing, this one just has a three-way switch, and the built-in fuse which is nice. Plus it’s prettier ha ha. If you’ve already got the $10 set up, I showed him the other video and it works good, then I did just stick with that.
@djl9154
@djl9154 8 месяцев назад
Hat if you generator has a floating ground, will the furnace still energize?
@rickvb2709
@rickvb2709 11 месяцев назад
I have a small Champion 2500W floating neutral inverter generator. Can I just leave the EZ Generator Switch (as it comes as for bonded) and just plug it a Generator neutral- grounding Plug to make the generator bonded to work? Or do I need change the switch around? Thanks
@HeritageWealthPlanning
@HeritageWealthPlanning 10 месяцев назад
8:30 "Pretty hard to mess up". yeah, wait to you see my work! You'll never say that again... :)
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад
Lol
@michaelfeicco8849
@michaelfeicco8849 10 месяцев назад
Great video. I will do this exactly as described. Also can I do this for the AC?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад
No this is for gas/ oil furnaces or boilers only. Nothing 220. For that you can watch my video on my power inlet box 👍🏼
@ryankortina9141
@ryankortina9141 Год назад
Get yourself a drip leg on the gas line. Just a FYI.
@usna98
@usna98 Год назад
What's your preferred emergency furnace power solution, this one or the other switch and outlet you've shown?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
I love this one. Nothing to unplug, and it has a built in fuse and a nice three way switch. It’s more expensive but definitely preferred. It also looks BA 🤣
@usna98
@usna98 11 месяцев назад
@diyhvacguy Thanks again for this video. I finally did this install today...piece of cake thanks to your video and the instructions that came with the kit. I did have to modify it for the floating ground but it was straightforward.
@jlvetor123
@jlvetor123 Год назад
Can you install a whole house to protect your computer and such? If so how about AA video about it? Thanks.
@MarkMaxwell-m7h
@MarkMaxwell-m7h 9 месяцев назад
In the event of a power outage, how will your thermostat have power to control your furnace?
@NikosDelight
@NikosDelight 9 месяцев назад
Battery
@Crete__Life
@Crete__Life 8 месяцев назад
It Gets power from the furnace where it's wired up.
@MarkMaxwell-m7h
@MarkMaxwell-m7h 9 месяцев назад
Is there something like this to run you ac in a power outage?
@Ramphonic
@Ramphonic 7 месяцев назад
switch not available here
@erniequentin
@erniequentin Год назад
We can't get our own furnace guys to install this! Any suggestions? I'm going to try a certified electrician to see if he'll install! Our furnace said they don't want to install switch because they act like we don't know what we're doing! Uuuuugggh!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Do it yourself! If you need some guidance check out our membership over at Patreon.com/diyhvacguy Cheers
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255 10 месяцев назад
Whomever did that black iron work has no idea what they're doing. 😂
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад
Yea tell me about it. Some random 1 1/4 in there because that’s all they had 🤷🏻‍♂️ it’s gonna get fixed soon enough
@crazysquirrel9425
@crazysquirrel9425 Год назад
Why not just install that adjacent to your breaker box? I think most breaker boxes are in garages or basements now. Seems logical that one would not want to run an extension cord in from the front door, snaking through a hallway, down the basement steps and to the furnace when you want to switch power. Easy peasy if you install that switching contraption in a box next to your panel. At least if you have to use a generator outside, you can safely run the extension cord (a much shorter one too) under the garage door to the panel.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
That’s a great idea. I might do a separate video installing it there! Most of the breaker boxes In utah are outside for whatever reason.
@crazysquirrel9425
@crazysquirrel9425 Год назад
@@diyhvacguy My My, what will they think of next? LOL That is even easier if the box is outside. I think they even sell a box (kit) just to hook up generators from outside too.
@2112user
@2112user Год назад
Cool idea, but $100 for a plate..... $50 would be about tops, Did mine for under $20-25, 5-10 years ago.
@paulwarren4775
@paulwarren4775 11 месяцев назад
Does the generator produce clean power
@danielmcqueen1024
@danielmcqueen1024 Год назад
I'm pretty handy at home electricity, for over 30 years now! And I always remember what Grand Pa told me 'Lick Your Fingers' before you touch that wire 🤣😂😀
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@macdaddykwm1
@macdaddykwm1 Год назад
I searched the generator you use and went to the firman web sight. I don't fined any information about them having pure sine wave inverters. Deos yours have pure sine wave?
@woodrowcook3107
@woodrowcook3107 8 месяцев назад
Is this also do-able with a gas-fired boiler such as a Burnham Alpine (heats hot water for forced hot water baseboard heat and domestic hot water)?
@nauhteeboy
@nauhteeboy 8 месяцев назад
I think you don't know both those devices are 220v. So no. It won't work.
@bernie13
@bernie13 7 месяцев назад
Will this work with a 20 amp generator outlet port?? anyone please!
@DerekFletcher1
@DerekFletcher1 Год назад
excellent video. Unfortunately I found your videos too late and had already purchased a "high efficiency" furnace. I've learned a lot from your information though and I very much appreciate your channel. Thanks! from Canada
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Thank you sir. It is just my opinion. There are a lot of folks who have great success with their high efficiency furnace so I hope the same is true for you. Thanks for the kind words! Cheers
@jimthomefan50025
@jimthomefan50025 Год назад
So the thermostat draws power from. The furnace then. Otherwise there would be no call for heat.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
That’s correct. As long as the furnace has power, the thermostat will function as normal 👍🏼
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple Год назад
nice! Can you plug your solar generator (Jackery, etc) in the same way instead of the outdoor generator?
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 Год назад
Why not just use your solar heating??
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Yesir! I’ve done it many a time. I have several videos in running it with various power stations. Check ‘em out! Cheers
@LarryDickman1
@LarryDickman1 Год назад
Just make sure your Jackery, Bluetti, or EcoFlow can handle the wattage draw.
@mowensmd
@mowensmd 8 месяцев назад
Solar, VTH and batteries with heatpump: none of this is needed. Great option for old schoolers though.
@bmartin7716
@bmartin7716 Год назад
Question: Does the generator need to be grounded separately or does the ground within the extension cord sufficient?
@stancoleshill8925
@stancoleshill8925 Год назад
Yes.
@hornetd
@hornetd Год назад
The generator does not need any separate ground. The one in the cord is sufficient for clearing a fault.
@billbrandon1697
@billbrandon1697 Год назад
what if you dont have ground wire coming from your panel....
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 10 месяцев назад
That sounds like knob and tube wiring. Not many people still know how to set that up safely.
@SCahoe
@SCahoe Год назад
OK, I have watched a couple of your videos for doing this different ways, the last time you used a plug with a switch on it, Is what you have done in this video , the best way to do this conversion? Thanks in advance for your reply.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Yes. The other way is more cost effective but this has a built in fuse and three way switch so it’s a little nicer.
@SCahoe
@SCahoe Год назад
I have decided to go this way , I have ordered this switch and will install as you have shown. thanks, @@diyhvacguy
@raysander5159
@raysander5159 Год назад
Where did you get that extension cord from? 3-prong, round with light? Thanks
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Home Depot I believe. I think it’s a 12ga heavy duty
@rickbarber6758
@rickbarber6758 Год назад
I was told the square wave from those generators would ruin my DC variable speed blower motor. Is that true?
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 10 месяцев назад
In my initial searching: generator power is not a square wave (that is what a cheap inverter produces), but the sine wave may be of a low quality. A DC variable speed motor would be powered off of it's own inverter. The risk is that the extra harmonics overheat the inverter driving your motor. So if you can replace that inverter separately: no, the motor should be fine.
@timdavis6088
@timdavis6088 Год назад
Is this even feasible if you don't have a large enough generator to accommodate the inrush amps from the HVAC unit? For example; my unit is a 3 phase 240 running @ 15 amps or 3,600 watts. At start up my inrush amps are 79.3 drawing almost 20k watts. Yes the condenser has a capacitor and a hard start kit. But this is the lowest I can get the draw down to. How does a 6,500 max watt generator deal with that inrush amps?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
You’d need a soft start for sure. It will lower the inrush amps to like 25. This switch is only for 110. You’d need a power inlet box and a interlock kit as well as the soft start for that to work. I’m planning to do a video on that come warmer weather being as I don’t have a heat pump.
@tonylin6708
@tonylin6708 Год назад
For my understanding, is the thermostat powered by the furnace wire (if the thermostat is not battery powered)?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
That is correct 👍🏼
@woodymiller3895
@woodymiller3895 Год назад
Are you running a gasoline generator in your basement?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Год назад
Lol no, one of my thumbnails has it in my basement so I could show the furnace.
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