I love how you fool a lot of people, including myself. At first I was disappointed, cause I thought you failt, than after I saw movement on the screen... I began to think. It was so nice trying, though I didn't manage to figure it out :P I had to laugh when I saw the last bit about that second painting!
I suspected that all wasn't what it seemed in the earlier episodes and I remember seeing the twin running to grab the wheelchair in the cctv footage in the back of the truck but I didn't manage to figure out the rest of the twist. Well done Derren and the team!
Amazing!!!!!!! But it is really hard to understand for me what derren says in the end because i'm not english..!!! But yeah it is so cool how it's done xD
Derren, that's not quite it still! You don't say how you convinced Ivan to watch it through that camera, not the other ones, particularly the one at 3:10 in part 2, and why the guard left the suspects to put the painting back. Ivan's passive reactions make me think he is part of the team too :p, but if that is not the case, how would he just have one guard and a girl receptionist with no defense tools :p to protect expensive paintings in such a simple warehouse from a clever thief like you? Needless to say I immensely enjoyed the show. xoxo btw, what are you hiding from the camera at 4:29 in part 2?
Yes, but Ivan could have seen the stealing of the other painting, had he watched from the other camera; but I agree that Ivan wasn't doing anything in particular to stop the robbery and just watched from the camera Derren offered without any questions.
***** If you look at the angles, that camera was the only one that showed the painting Derren claimed he would steal. No point in watching the other camera.
The guard followed the security protocol that'd been put in place to put the painting back. He left the suspects because they had nowhere to go. They couldn't get out pass the guard when he was in the gallery, and even if they did, they couldn't get outside because the doors had been locked by the receptionist from the outside. Ivan said himself that he wanted Derren to get a way with it. He was amused by the whole thing, not passive. He knew he that the painting was in no real danger, and was just enjoying the whole thing.
Okay, I have one issue with this scheme that kinda nags at me. Ivan and Derren watch a feed from one security camera, but whenever they show the gallery, there are clearly security cameras in every corner of the room, and others pointing into the hallway between the rooms. What are those cameras doing there? Who's watching those cameras. It seems implausible that Ivan would have deliberately left the bulk of his security system shut off, knowing Derren was going to try to steal his painting, unless he was effectively "throwing the game" and letting him have it on purpose. So with all of those cameras (several of which would have been pointing where Tom hid, others would have easily seen the ladies switching the paintings turning the illusion in place), who was watching those? Where were those feeds going, and why didn't Ivan have anyone watching those other angles? That just feels like too big an omission to ignore.
I think all that can only be explained by there were conditions on the bet, they were the only ones watching the cameras and he let Derren choose the cameras , otherwise it wouldntve worked. Partly "throwing the game" I guess, because he wants Derren to pull it off, ultimately. If it had failed it wouldntve been any fun at all (and ultimately, wouldntve aired). Not the best of his tricks I agree, but if it were flawless youd see a sharp spike in art robberies going down ;p
thesouluniversal I want to hope that you're wrong, because if that's the case, then that really tears down a lot of the mystique. One of the things I love about Derren Brown is the fact that he doesn't rely on getting the "mark" to knowingly cooperate with the trick to make it work (or at least, he does a much better job of hiding that complicity from the audience). A lot of tricks become far less magical when you allow that the person on the stage can be in on the act, and I've generally believed that he's smart and talented enough not to resort to that tactic. That's not to say that this is totally equal to an "audience shill", but it's closer than I'd hope for. That being said, he was performing a trick involving a non-professional team, and if he bent the rules a bit to make it work, eh. Not every Derren Brown performance is going to be my personal favorite, that won't stop me from watching the next and every other one I can get my hands on.
Illusion-XIII I think youre right. I didnt much like the watch trick either, because surely the guard had his own watch, and the office a clock? It relied on him following those instructions to detain thieves in the office and return the painting to the wall, to be unattended at precisely the time he had been told it would be stolen. Its more like Ivan got Punkd or something, in a way. Idk for me although there were some clever little touches its not to his usual standard, but judging by the comments were the picky ones lmao. Its easy to be the critic. Still love the guy.
thesouluniversal Nah, the time deception was meant for Ivan, because the guard would be more pre-occupied with detaining whoever and whenever someone was suspected of stealing the painting.
That song at 3:15... It makes me think of the evil within! Oh wait, that's because it's in the evil within. Oh... I failed... Whelp, that was unnecessary
By the way, at the beginning I was like: So what if some people get taken into the room where they take suspects and then somebody else takes out the painting and then -almost- the exact same thing happens
