Steelers are the biggest underachievers in the NFL over the last 5 years | THE HERD 

Steelers fan here. Colin is 100% correct. Tomlin regularly has his teams underprepared especially against opponents they should demolish.

If Ben throws 3 interceptions we're gonna blame him not tomlin

The man has a point 🤔

Ya, you can criticize the Cowboys no matter what happens, but not the packers or the steelers or pretty much any other team with a winning history.

You mention the AFC North as if it is a mediocre conference, since 2010 there has been at least two AFC North teams in the playoffs if not three every year except for one.

6:09 this dude Colin said "brah"💀💀💀

Tom Coughlin is the best Giants coach ever. He should have never quit nor forced to.

We could also blame mike macarthy for packers underachievement rather than blame a rod

Colin Cowherd, are you kidding me? This is not a matter of whether or not Tomlin can be questioned it is the matter of disrespect with which he is being shown. Are there aspects of his coaching that can and/or should be called into question? Absolutely. But Terry Bradshaw didn't just say, "I don't think he's a great" he followed it with an emphasized "AT ALL" and then not only said, "I have no idea what he does" indicating his IGNORANCE but then still proceeded to called him a "Cheerleader guy". In 10 seasons he's not ending 1 season with a losing record, made it to the playoffs 70% of the time, won the division 50%, been to 2 super Bowls and won 1. Cheerleader guy? In the last 9 seasons only 5 teams had been to more than 1 Super Bowl appearance and only 1 team had more Super Bowl wins than the Steelers. Handed a Super Bowl team? As I recall that "Super Bowl team" he was "handed" went 8-8 the year before he took over. And guess what, Super Bowl teams don't last, players get older, slower and eventually retire, but before that, pretty much immediately players are lost to free agency to get bigger money elsewhere right after winning a Super Bowl. Now I'd like to address your cherry picked remarks about being in a division with the Cleveland Browns. I'll cherry pick my own stats that the AFC North is the only division in football that has had more than 1 team in it's division win a Super Bowl in the last 9 years. In the last 9 years and the 18 possible wild card winners, the AFC North has won half the wild card spots. Say what you will about Cincy IN the playoffs, they STILL a team that was good enough to consistently MAKE the the playoffs...6 times in the last 9 years. Which leads me into your comparative remarks regarding Brady and Manning dominating their divisions. You talk about the Cleveland Browns? How about the Dolphins, Bills and Jets for Brady? or the Titans, Texans and Jags for Manning (Raiders and Chargers when Manning was in the AFC west)? Tomlin, with Ben, went up against a division that saw the Bengals make the playoffs 6 times and the Ravens make the playoffs 6 times, the latter being a Super Bowl winner as well. Brady, he went up against a division that saw the Jets make the playoffs twice and Miami once, neither winning a Super Bowl. And while I don't have it exactly split out to the years Manning was with Indy vs. when he was in Denver, the combined totals of the other teams in those divisions making the playoffs during Mike Tomlin's time coaching the Steelers 6 times between the Texans, Titans and Jags and 7 times between the Chiefs and Chargers whereas Steelers division opponents went 12. So I would argue Tomlin's accomplishments were made while playing against the overall toughest division in the AFC and finally in regards to the AFC being the weaker conference, Tomlin is 24-13 against the NFC...."AT ALL"..."Cheerleader guy"...THAT'S why people are upset, not because Tomlin is above criticism, but because when he is criticized the commentary is beyond disrespectful for a guy who has accomplished what he has thus far and the fact remains, and his overall body of work as compared to the rest of the league, he is still a GOOD coach at minimum, but the way Terry Bradshaw speaks about him and the way you cherry pick stats, "critics" are treating him as tho he is a complete garbage coach and not as the good coach he is that has areas that can be debated and/or are in need of improvement....you ask if people will allow him to be criticized if he loses to Miami this weekend? I wonder if the likes of Terry Bradshaw or you Colin Cowherd will apologize the remarks and the justification of the remarks of "Cheerleader guy" if he Makes it to the AFC Championship game or even the Super Bowl?

I'm a Sixburgh fan, sorry I meant Pittsburgh fan, but you have some points. Tomlin was originally a defensive coach and since he's been the coach our defense hasn't really ever gotten good again since his first few years.

Coughlin missed the playoff 5 years in a row that is why he got criticism

Their defense got old and they went all raiders with the drafting and picked 4.39 lbs with no field awareness. They had to supercharge the offense to compensate for it. As for the Tomlin criticism, there's a speck of truth. He's not the best schemer or negotiator, but he's the glue guy. He motivates players, especially young underachieving skill players.

Tomlin inherited a Super Bowl team and took them to two Super Bowls winning one then the defense got old and had to be rebuilt and it is now rebuilt. Thank you media for lighting a fire under Tomlin and the rebuilt D. Steelers are back and you all are gonna' shut your damn mouths!

He says Brady dominated his division. Yeah, it's pretty easy when Miami, NY, and Buffalo are in the division. He says Manning dominated his division. Yeah, he had to beat Houston, Jacksonville, and Tennessee. Pittsburgh has to face Baltimore every year. Baltimore is better than all of those other teams almost every year.

Also throughout most of Tomlin's career as the Steelers coach, the AFC North has been one of the toughest divisions to win. The Ravens (two Super Bowls) are a very tough team in that division man who you did not mention and the Bengals are at least a good regular season team. You put the Pats or the Colts when they were led by Manning in that division and they would have the same kind of success as the Steelers or worse.

Tomlin is only 44! He still has over 2 decades of coaching left.

Completely agree. Tomlin is nothing short of lucky. The drafting has been terrible the past few years as well. But look at it in the case of the players, they seem to like, respect, and ride with Tomlin. How would the players react if Tomlin is fired, and someone new is brought in to coach the team?

Colin is right, they've been getting a pass every year. But the biggest issue here is that he criticises the media for treating some people as untouchable then says no matter what happens this weekend "you wont criticise Big Ben, or Bell or Brown etc". If the Steelers lose, and Big Ben throws 5 picks, it's his fault. If the Steelers D gives up 30 points, it'll be their fault. I don't think this stuff will happen, but there's no point lining up scapegoats before the game.

Joey Porter got arrested lmao 😂

This has to be one of the worst arguments I have ever heard. Talk about leaving logic at the door. Of course Brady and Manning won their divisions often with the likes of the Bills, Dolphins, Texans, Titans, Jaguars. Two of the worst divisions in football. They do not have a Baltimore Ravens in their division that Colin conveniently did not mention. Tomlin is certainly not the greatest coach but when old Terry acted like Mike Mccarthy was some great coach was a huge problem. Tomlin and Mccarthy are the same on paper ffs. Bad way to start the show today.

The Dolphins are a good team. Adam Gase might finally be the right guy to make the Dolphins relevant again but you are sending out a back-up QB albeit a very good back-up, against the loaded steelers. Pittsburgh, there is zero excuses for you to lose this game. You have Ben, Bell, Brown all healthy, more than enough to get the job done in front of your great home crowd. If Pit loses this game, you have question the coaching staff.

Definitely a fair analysis by Colin. I have been a faithful Steelers fan since 1989. I think part of the problem is also the front office - GM, etc... We've put less of an emphasis on defense with the draft especially. The Steelers have historically acquired talent through the draft, not free agency. Something is going on there. Either we aren't drafting as well or we've tended to draft more for the offense. Also you have to look at free agency taking players away. Steelers players are one of the most sought after for free agents, but also some of the most unsuccessful after they leave the Steelers.

when people don't use stats to defend their arguement i have a hard time siding with them

Mike Tomlin is also so young and will get way better

We went 11-5 this season with one of the toughest schedules in the league. Without Bell the first three games, Without Bryant the entire season, Without Green over half of the season, and not to mention the fact that we are missing our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th receivers on offense. Just face it, Tomlin is a great coach

It is so dumb when people say he is only good because he has good talent, aside from Big Ben, he pretty much built the whole team. The reason the steelers have so much talent is because Mike Tomlin found it, he is a great coach.

Colin, I usually like what you have to say, but you're missing the point in trying to defend Bradshaw. Tomlin, whether he's a great coach or not, is still not just a "cheerleader." That just comes off as ignorant. Sure, coach Mike got criticized, but nobody called him anything equivalent of a "cheerleader."

Now I hope the Steelers make it to the Super Bowl. Just to prove Cowerd wrong

HES NOT PETE CARROLL?!?!?!?!? THANK ******* GOD.

If you watch the times Pittsburgh went to the playoffs they usually lose because of unfortunate injuries and turnovers

From a Steelers fan - Cowherd is correct.

Tomlin came in and won a superbowl. You mention the Browns what about one of the best defenses in history with the Ravens. Cincinnati wasn't too shabby either and you still have to get through New England. Injuries his running back being suspended Ben Roth raping 2 women and the pressure of having one of the most highest thought of franchises and fan bases in sports. Coughlin lost about 8 games where he led in the 4th qtr last year. Tomlin has been great sounds like you just want some getback for people criticizing Coughlin and that's pathetic.

Why are we on this can't criticise Tomlin kick. Mike Tomlin and Bill Cowher had a way of losing to underachieving competition. Mike Tomlin is a good coach period. Coaches don't play, players do.

5:10 that argument is like saying "if the pats lose to the browns that means that bellicheck is questionable and because of that hypothetical ithink bill is a bad coach"

what about passing the ball with beast mode in ur backfield? we are still questioning Carroll

Underhanded racism. It's funny how Ben gets all or most of the credit for Tomlin's success but none of the blame. Ben has been the an for most of these losses to below average teams yet coward and his ilk never seem to notice that.

I'm a huge Steelers fan and cowherd is right. with the talent our team has had since Tomlin has taken over we should have been way more dominant.

I also look at the mass exodus of talent in Steeltown.How many guys left as free agents? And how many players have retired and are close to hanging it up?

Tomlin is decent at drafting and great at speaking at press conferences. His time management is bad, and his team is very undisciplined. Multiple suspensions do to drugs. Penalties at terrible times. I don't think he ever teaches his players the basic fundamentals of football, like tackling, etc.

We definitely,ready to make it to the superbowl 2017

I haven't been watching football for about 5 years. Started again this year. Last season I watched was the season where the Steelers lost against GB in the Superbowl. I would definitely agree that Tomlin is not a great coach. The game that proved it to me was the Cowboys game this year. If Tomlin had not gone for 2 acouple times I think they would've won. The Cowboys are a great team this year but I think that game was won by Tomlin giving up too many free points.

I'm a huge steelers fan and this is pretty true

Cowherd does raise some good points... Tomlin was handed a Super Bowl team when he took over. I completely agree with the Tom Coughlin comparison as well. Also, Tomlin's had numerous current and former head coaches on his staff. As a Steelers fan, I can agree that they have underachieved and Tomlin will be questioned if they lose to Miami. However, Cowherd plays the Bradshaw interview twice and does not even mention the most important thing that he said. He sees it as calling him an average coach, but is there anything more disrespectful you can say about a coach than comparing him to a cheerleader? C'mon Cowherd. Cowherd completely misses the ball on a few points as well. How can you call out Tomlin's tripping incident (intentional or not) then go on to compare him to a guy like Pete Carroll with complete disregard with what transpired with him at USC? If he's going to throw stones, at least keep it consistent. Furthermore, I find his comparison of Ben and the AFC North to Brady and the AFC East and Manning and the AFC South humorous. He could not have taken that point seriously. Even having the Browns in the division, the AFC North has been consistently one of the best (if not the best) division in football since Tomlin has been the head coach (outside of this year). Even with The Browns in the division you still have The Ravens with a Super Bowl win and numerous playoff appearances and The Bengals who consistently make the playoffs. You could say "Well thats because Ben doesn't dominate the division." But, you only have to look back to 2 years ago when all 3 teams made the playoffs. Outside of the Jets and Titans for a couple of years, Brady and Manning have played in below average divisions. Even though some of the stuff Cowherd says is sometimes true and a lot of the times ridiculous, I can't stop watching his show. Clearly, he's doing something right.

But he didn't lose to Miami, in fact He went on the road to arrowhead and beat them in the divisional round. I'd like to see him play better against New England but other than that he's one of the best

I usually blame Ben because he makes bonehead plays. He held the worst QBR in aSB for a while from his first appearance. His second a SB the Harrison pick before the half was the play of the game. He started off his third SB with a bh play ball on Steelers 1 first play GBay push OL into the EZ instead of taking the S he threw apick. He did it Sunday twice. The last one in the grasp falling. We were ahead no need for heroics. Defense won those 2

Bradys division sucks..So did Peytons with the colts

I agreed with this guy then when he made that point about how he lost to tebow, i just fell out of my chair. Mike Tomlin is a TERRIBLE coach.

story is the steelers have the best football organization and the super bowl championships talk for them selfs ♡

Bradshaw's comments are out of line not because he's critical of Tomlin, but rather because he referred to Tomlin as a "cheerleader guy," which is disrespectful. Bradshaw has no idea what happens at the Steelers' practice or locker room. Bradshaw even says, "I don't know what he does." Sure Tomlin can be criticized. His teams have seemed poorly prepared at times, some of his decisions are questionable. In his defense though, his career record is better than Noll or Cowher. He has not had a losing season. The Steelers are in a division with Cleveland, the worst team in the league, but the Ravens have been to the Super Bowl a few times in the past several years, and the Bengals have been a playoff team. A few years ago, the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals were all in the playoffs. Brady dominates a division with--hold your laughter--the Jets, the Bills and the Dolphins. The Steelers have gone to the playoffs and lost because of multiple injuries. Again, it's fair to say that Tomlin is not the greatest of all time, but Bradshaw's comment was just ridiculous.

you realise tomlin coached ab to greatness and brought in great offense coordinaters to help big ben

Hate it but true , years and years still hasn't built our defense, reminds me of Don Shula and how he rode Marino for almost decade.

I'm a steeler fan but Terry Bradshaw I can't agree more with what he said.

I agree Steelers, Packers and Ravens to an extent

steeler fan here from Leechburg, pa......i love how he doesnt mention certain stats in favor of tomlin lol. terry always hates on the steelers btw lol. didnt go to his coaches funeral smh

be careful, if you don't give credit to an African American coach or player SAS will throw out the race card. but he is able to imitate pacquiao's accent like that isn't racist and not be criticized for it. how can he have any credibility about race and being offended?

Ok the part about being in a division with the Browns....uh every division has a weak link

I love Bradshaw and he can certainly say whatever he wants to say. I do disagree with his statement however. I think that Coach Tomlin is a good coach and will continue to have a winning record in Pittsburgh.

I agree with Colin 110% here especially about The Who you can and can't criticize

Havent even hit play on this video yet, but I certainly hope he lists the Packers as a runner-up.

Oooohhh...that's a HOT take! Above average offensive lines? Great running backs? The line they won with in 2008 was hot garbage. The line from 2010 was even worse. They won the 2008 SB with a pedestrian running game and got to 2010 after their franchise QB had to sit out the first 4 games. He's been with the team long enough to entirely rebuild that roster. Current coaches in the NFL: top tier all by himself is Belichick. Second is Tomlin, Carroll, McCarthy, Harbaugh. That's it. Those guys aren't "cheerleaders". They aren't "nice". The only reason we don't call them great is Belichick. The problem with Bradshaw's criticism is that it was plain old stupid. It was shallow. It's intent was to generate clicks and conversation. If he'd have offered something smart and insightful, there wouldn't have been an issue. Pittsburgh sports media rips Tomlin...but they're usually smarter than Bradshaw.

couldn't agree with this more... they should have the best offense in the nfl. big ben, leveon bell, and ab. those players alone could take you to a super bowl. only winning one super bowl with having players as great as these for as long as he's had them... I personally think if he doesn't take the Steelers to the super bowl this year, he should be fired

I would have liked Colin to go a bit deeper here. Is he saying the media won't criticize coach Tomlin because he is black?? I recall coach Coughlin being slated week after week, even if the Giants won. Two Superbowl wins against the Brady/Belichick Pats must mean something? Is Colin insinuating that the American main stream sports media is ultra liberal to the point where you can't criticize a poorly performing coach because of his ethnicity??

Colin was feeding that stuff!

Winning the division 50% of the time when you have another team that has been on your level for quite some time is still impressive. If Steelers had Brady's division... Different story.

imagine big bens career if he had bilechec for his coach for his entire career

Wait wait wait? Tomlin had everything handed to him? What about chip Kelly's first year with the eagles? A good nick foles, desean jackson, and lesean McCoy? He went to the playoffs ONCE with them, and now he's not even a head coach anymore. Kelly had stars handed to him, but couldn't even use them.

When did Omar Epps get hired?

If the bengals ain't choke that wouldn't of had a win since 2010

People were critical of Terry Bradshaw comments cause of his choice of words. Tomlin deserve some criticism like when the steelers get bounced in the second round and etc. but Bradshaw said Mike McCarthy is a great coach and called Mike Tomlin a cheerleader guy, McCarthy has one of best QBs to ever play this game in Aaron Rodgers. Big Ben is good but he's not Aaron Rodgers good. and McCarthy has been to the super bowl once. Tomlin has been there twice and i can argue that the AFC North is a tougher division than the NFC South. So for Bradshaw to say McCarthy is a better coach than Tomlin is ridiculous.

boy this guy is eating crow this weekend

1 year later...Steelers 1 and done...Thanks Tomlin. Haley gone. Thank heavens. Now, we are looking at Tomlin as a "Coach"; year after this video.

it wasnt about not calling tomlin a great coach, because you don't know until his career is over to make that judgement on someone. i mean he may end up being a great or or he may just end up being an ok coach when it's all said and done, history will decide that. the problem was calling him a cheerleader which was down right disrepectful. no coach should ever be called that, because as a coach you have to do alot of prep work to get your players ready each week with countless hours of video studying, coming up with new play schemes, putting players in the the best position to matchup with their opposition each game and making sure the players are conditioned so that they are ready to play each game. not to mention the pressure they have on them to win games, because if things go bad the coach is the first person to get blamed for it. this is why bradshaw was a player and never a coach.

I am a Steelers fan. Have been my entire life, and I love my tem. I am not prejudice against Mike Tomlin, but Terry Bradshaw is right. Mike Tomlin is by no means a terrible Coach, I mean he's the 3rd Steelers Coach to get 100 wins. But, he is also not great. I watched the Bill Cowher years, I have watched Tony Dungy as the Colts head Coach, I've watched Bill Belichick with the Patriots, and just honestly Mike Tomlin is not on that level. For all the reasons Colin is talking about.

Can this guy be anymore pompous?

I've been saying this for years the people have changed the man at the top hasn't, Tomlin is an issue

Really the Giants my dude with that defense stop it bro the jags at one point had the 2 best WR tandems in the league......u can't I wish I can have this convo in person bcuz I would honestly Rio this argument in pieces

colin is correct

I like Cowherd, even though I am a Redskins fan and should not, but what is he talking about here? Tomlin is not a great coach, he is a good coach who continuously has his team set up to make the playoffs, never has had a losing season. Coughlin, great coach, unfairly ousted, but he has had 10 losing seasons out of 20, including his last three. Missed the playoffs four seasons in a row, and coaches in NY, a big market where they expect a lot. Tomlin is in Pittsburgh where that team is everything. That is why Coughlin is unemployed, and Tomlin is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL.

they be hating on coach T but i agree with the under achievements

The problem with black coaches is that they are soft on their players. I feel like they care more about being friends with their players rather than seeing them as subordinates. You almost never see a black coach chewing out their players. Both Tomlin and the Browns HC are like that but Tomlin has alot more talented players.

The criticism wasn't the problem, calling him a cheerleader was highly disrespectful. And idk what football Colin has been watching for the past 40 years but Ben Rothlisberger is barely a top 15 qb of the last 40 years let alone a top 20 player overall

Nick Saban didn't do a damn thing in the NFL, he's a great coach according to you. Jim Harbaugh hasn't won anything, yet he's a great coach according to you! Yet oddly enough, you don't seem to hold Mike Tomlin in that regard, even though he's a Superbowl winning head coach.

not only are the browns in the same division with the steelers but also joe flacco ray lewis was in the same division andy dalton; aj green the bengals and the ravens both always good teams so yes the steelers do not dominate the afc north all the time like the patriots dominate the afc east with miami bills and jets who rarely ever come close to the post season tomlin is above the average and would be seen as hi as belecheck if he was in the same division as miami jets and buffalo.

Is that y statistics show that Mike Tomlin is number 4 best coach OF ALL TIME

Colin is right

By the way manning only has two Superbowls....you can't win every year. Just because you're a good coach, doesn't mean you win every year.

Thanks for the extra *motivation* this week Colin. The Steelers whoop the Dolphins to win a playoff game, which just happens to be their first playoff game with the Big Three all healthy. Now, they are the franchise with the most playoff wins in NFL *history.* Not to mention, they still have the most Super Bowl trophies...yep, let them keep on underachieving.

That's what I said! If only the Steelers hired Bruce Arians for the gig. They would have had a dynasty.

You can't make fun of the afc north. Hardest division in the afc and maybe the nfl

Steelers shouldn't lose to miami(Big Ben was playing hurt) or philly. The games down the stretch we close against weaker competition. He is a solid coach, but he doesn't really overcome adversity, and I doubt the steelers will ever finish 13-3, 14-2 with tomlin. I don't know if it's him or the team but they just have 2-3 awful games out of nowhere. Drop a tough game and a division game and you're likely the 2 seed and have to go on the road, and I don't think the steelers are a great road team

Really bc I'm pretty sure there is the Cleveland Browns

idk about you saying Big Ben is one of the top 20 players you have ever seen. That's very far fetched. You should blame the Steelers as a whole because they are the most underachieved team in the past 5 years. every year regarded by non fans as the super bowl favorites. Colin hit this one right on the head.

he lost to tim tebow in the playoffs because most of his team was hurt. I remember that game.

Colin's right. He's damn right.

BIG BEN NEVER FINISH PLAYS A WHOLE SEASON

Don't hate on the Steelers organization........ Mike is a good Coach......

I didnt realize Tom Coughlin was that criticized before he was outted. He should go down as one of the best in our generation. Mike Tomlin, ehh.

HE DRAFTED AB BELL TIMMONS SHAZIER.

? was Ben only in his 3rd year as a starter when Tomlin became the coach? Didn't we go 8-8 before 08 season. Since he was handed a team, the record should've been better. So somewhere the team had to be coach or they wouldn't won the Super Bowl in 08 and made appearance against Green Bay. I'm just saying.