Film makers eat your heart out, this is an amazing video. A trip back in time. Very scenic to view. Almost like watching a mystery film. Loved every moment of it. This video is a keeper. Keep up the good work. No, the trains don't run here anymore, but the memories remain.
Brian, Nice video. They've cleaned that line up a lot too. A few years ago it was so overgrown that it would have been difficult to walk through there at all. Come a few miles west and you'll get to Salem and the restored Monon depot and caboose. The depot has a lot of neat stuff in it and an HO scale layout in the basement of Washington County and the Monon line through it in the 50's.
Heritage Park, where the line ends, used to be an area of warehouses and piers where cargo was transloaded between river craft and rail cars. The siding at 12:11 still shows as an active siding on Google Earth. The long removed siding used to serve the huge Clifty Creek Power Plant slightly more than one mile west of the switch. The plant has the tallest chimneys in the world, with two topping out at 980 feet.
Very nice video,Jaw Tooth. Madison is a Great place to explore with lots of history,many of them,Rail Road related. At the top of that rocky cutout is the Madison Mental Hospital which I believe is still in operation. I have to admit,I didn't know that the secondary line in North Vernon was part of that incline. Learn something every day. Thanks for sharing!
When the incline was first built they used draft animals to pull the loaded train car up to the top.Than the steam engine was invented the the boiler would move to remain level so wouldn't put out the fire in the firebox.That engine is in the children museum in Indianapolis along with a model of Madison Indiana and the train doing the incline. Thank you for the videos
I'm not sure if this area is susceptible to any tremors of any sort but one little tremor and down comes all that rock ... thanks a million for doing this very interesting video and intriguing history of the line ... I would never have seen this if you hadn't taken the time to produce such a great video ... thanks Jaw Tooth ... much appreciated.
It was a lot of walking but fun to do. I stopped at Star Bucks first and got a Frappamocha or whatever and took it with me on the hike. My wife wouldn't walk in the worst area where it was straight up. One of these days those sides are going to come down and bury the tracks. Thanks for watching!
There are three faults in the vicinity, the Mount Carmel Fault, the fault system that makes up the Cincinnati Arch, and the Rough Creek fault system. There are two stronger faults further away, the Wabash Valley and New Madrid faults, both of which are capable of producing earthquakes strong enough to bring down the cut. Underneath the sedimentary rock is a large region of rhyolite and granite called the Eastern Granite-Rhyolite province.
@@everettduncan7543 @JawTooth Thanks very much for your reply, that is very interesting to read ... I just re-watched Jaw Tooth's video again, and I'm surprised they were able to put the railroad through there in the first place.
There was an article about this railroad in Trains Magazine in the 1960s. In steam season the engine was on the down hill end of the train and facing up grade to keep enough water in the boiler to cover the crown sheet.
I’ll bite: where/what’s the steepest Continuously Active Rail length in the country? It would be fun to know. Love your videos. American local railroading at its best!
i can see why they closed the tracks down, firstly erosion, secondly the hill wasn't flat to begin with and erosion would throw the rails out of whack, thirdly, rocks constantly falling upon said rails causing them to bend out of shape.
Technically it is steeper, but while Madison is a straight shot Saluda Grade is technically the most well known and it is Mainline service with curves and the only thing that beats Saluda is Cass Scenic.
Great video! I knew of the operating problems the railroad had with the grade of the line, but I didn't know of the rockfall problems the line also had...
Wow that was cool! Time for a non-motorized cart. Start at the top, hop on and let her rip. Don't forget to add brakes though. As a joke on the next guy to go, dribble a bit of oil on the track about 3/4ths of the way down and wait for the... Ah, never mind. Bad idea. LOL! Excellent coverage and description of the incline. Thanks for the close up and detailed coverage! I don't blame Mrs. Tooth for staying back. Someone has to call EMS. Cheers, Dan
Some of the sides were worse than straight up due to falling material in the past. EMS would have a tough time getting up there but that place was pretty awesome! Have a great weekend Danny!
I have had the opportunity to have worked for the state of Indiana with a crew that got to walk up and down that incline running weed eaters and chainsaws clearing out the right of way back in 1995. I also got to do some work on that same locomotive when it was being painted for the Madison Railroad.
I live here in Madison. The track continues all the way down the side of the Ohio river. They paved over it and also covered it in dirt and grass. You can find it in places all the way down.
Motorized vehicle or locomotives would probably cause a huge landslide. It sucks but thats mother nature they would probably have to remove alot of dirt and rock to make it safe again but i love old railroad history
Would make a great soap box derby track, put those guys in Akron out of business. Should be some way to use this facility? Great video JT, thanks for posting. Reminds me I’m in need of my monthly haircut.
That was a nicely done video! I visited a early Georgia railroad park called Altoona pass. Its near Cartersville. It is a civil war battlefield. I think you would like it. Its in Red top mountain SP, off I75.
She liked the hike but she wouldn't go in the part where the sides were straight up and down. There are a lot of trees and boulders that are about ready to fall in the next storm. Thanks for watching Steve!
Hola Jaw Tooth, tienes un excelente canal, estuve viendo algunos vídeos y sencillamente son excelentes, voy a estar visitándote siempre, un cordial saludo.
Ballested,special gearing for pulling rather than speed and special baffles in the prime mover to keep the lube oil from pooling at the downhill end of the oil pan
Holy💩that's the steepest non cog railway I've ever seen.Didn't know of its existence,imagine being an engineer going down this thing with heavy train.😬Then to make it even more nervewracking a sharp curve @ the bottom of hill.OMG😱Nice find,and thanks for hiking up that thing😰for a look👀see.Definitely the last place I'd want to be in an earthquake.😲The DeLand station shown @ end is not far from friends house there whom ironically his Dad retired from the railroad up here in Cleveland,Ohio area.👴
That's cool that you recognized the DeLand Florida station in the outro! I was there again about a month ago with Millenniumforce filming the Auto Train and my camera messed up on me. We drove all the way there just for the Auto Train and I felt so sick to my stomach when the camera messed up that I didn't even tell Alan. Lol. Thanks for watching!
saw A video about this were in 2013 A lot of money was put into this to restore and there were speeders running on it for all most 2 years and had to stop because of falling rock
JT, Here's the site that but out that video that I was telling you about - "Delay In Block Productions". They have two good videos on the Madison Incline but I only saw the one. I'm about to watch the other.
Brian, I really hate to disagree, but the Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia is non-cog and has grades up to 11 percent, almost twice as steep as Madison. I believe you know this, as I see you have 5 or 6 videos at Cass. Are you not counting it, because it was a logging railroad? Off course it's a logging railroad, but it's still active as a tourist operation, and you can ride it! I highly recommend it to anyone reading this! Sometimes you can even talk the engineer into a cab ride!!!
I just Love watching your Video's you are So Funny. You make them very interesting to watch. I would Like to say that you have a Beautiful Wife you are a very Lucky man. Keep UP the Awesome Videos Take Care.
Man I multiplied it out that’s over 412.3’ of rise in 7,000’. Do you know what the line actually served or where it ran from and to. Also Jaws as I have told you before that you are a lucky man to have your Best Girl want to spend time with you on all of your adventures. Always nice to see the Mrs. Jaw Tooth. Also how did you come up with the video of the last train running the line? Was there a site you went to? A really nice video Jaws!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hello Brian, I like your video on this very interesting piece of dis-used track better than any of the others here on RU-vid! I see you were just there a couple of weeks ago as well. I have researched this line for a while and had a few questions for you. I decided to email you at the email you provided on your "about" page. Please get back with me at your convenience. Thanks, Hank
The Madison Railroad Historical Society(?) put out a short documentary on TouTube about the Madison Incline, the how, and why of its existence, the periods of use, and the reasons of iits disuse and the last vehicle to climb the Madison Incline. Your were actually close when you mentioned tire marks.
Wow, I'm going to look for that. That is one of the most interesting stretches of railroad that I have ever seen. I tried to figure out angles for the camera to show how steep it is. Thanks for watching!
Not sure if the documentary addressed that. But because of the crumbling walls of the cuts hikers are discouraged from hiking the Incline. Hear that JT? LOL
I have a track running into my city that has that classification. It used to be a branch line for AT&SF. They stopped using it when that RR was taken oven by BNSF. Now. SCRRA/Metrolink owns it but its officially out of service. Metrolink has been using parts from it like rails and signals. It'll have to be rebuilt from scratch if and when it's to be used again. It's roughly 30 miles long.
