meanwhile in the upper part of the galaxy.... “Ah, yes, ‘Unbidden’. The immortal race of sentient energy beings allegedly occupying half of the galaxy. We have dismissed this claim.”
+Yogev Reznik Basically a massive race of robots is about to commit genocide on the galaxy and the different race's leaders don't do anything about it.
+Yogev Reznik ME2 Turian Councilor: Ah yes Reapers...we have dismissed that theory. ME3 Turian Councilor: SHEPARD THE REAPERS ARE ATTACKING MY PLANET!!! Shepard: Ah yes 'Reapers' a race of sentient intelligent machines allegedly waiting in dark space. I have dismissed that claim *disconnects Councilor* *puts on sunglasses* YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH
I love how the Mesh'Ben Homeworlds just sit in the lower left hand corner of the galaxy like, "Meh. Fuck it. We got enough space." during the entire game.
im really concerned about the utter lack of countermeasures against the unbidden. a force that clearly states to destroy all life in the galaxy took half of it already and the other empires just sit and watch.
+FenrirAsgardwolf the AI and diplomacy need massive improvements. I just vassalize everyone, maybe have one or two strong allies but federations are so weak compared too alliances with vassals. I.e when federations liberate nations they should join the federation and the federation controller should not be on rotation, it should be the strongest nation or human players and everyone should pay for the upkeep so that small nations don't disband the federation fleet because they can't pay for it's upkeep. And wars should still be dependent on majority vote.
which sucks when you are one of the first to take on the extradimensional threat and you are outclassed by several of the normal threats on the board. expecially now that i am fighting down the hoard with a top ship of cruisers.
+SnowToad Fun fact, that is actually a viable strategy, as the color blue causes us to be more passive and think for the long term, whereas more aggressive red colors make you angry and whatnot
I think the best part about this entire thing is the random fallen empire in the corner there. "Interdimensional invaders coming to cleanse the galaxy? Please not worth our time." And then they actually hold off half the map by themselves almost.
+Chris Tater Unbiddens only goal is to destroy the entire galaxy, they are extra dimensional beings who occur due to the tearing of space from the use of a ftl jump drive.
+lethrington They are actually energy beings that have a chance to come trough a tear in the fabric of reality when someone uses the experimental jump drives, a very fast type of ftl travel. What's close to the reapers are the extra-galactical invaders who are very similar to the tyranids.
+BoydofZINJ Its a group of extra dimensional beings that occur when a ftl jump drive tears hole in space. Obviously one of the civilizations had a ftl jump drive and used it creating a hole that the unbidden came through. The unbiddens only goal is to essentially kill everyone in the galaxy.
+Master Hiei Yes you can kill the unbidden, but due to the AIs ignoring them it has to be you. They dont start on the map since they enter the game when someone hits a specific tech
Dully noted, if I cross a faction named "Associated Ikarzuri States" : Conquer and purge, they might trigger an Unbidden invasion... You know what they say : "Better safe than sorry". *will most likely create a robots uprinsing on first play*
I imagine what I would do if I was in the northern federation. Federation: "We cannot deny the unbidden threat any longer. We need ideas people!" Me: "We have a failproof plan, let's create sentient AI to fight this growing threat, there is no way this could work against us!"
+Erick V just like the council races in mass effect, "Reapers you say?, wheres the evidence?" mass effect 2, "ok so there was a reaper, but there couldn't be more, so we're gonna do nothing until its too late." mass effect 3 "we are gonna fight this mechanical menace individually and not help each other, until a sexy human brings us together and we all save the day."
+NecroFelix247 Well yes, all the other species are totally tsundere for humans, the entire mass effect series is just a cleverly disguised harem anime.
I'd challenge that with either "I have a better idea, let's all ascend to pure psionic forms. Nothing can possible go wrong with that!" Or "Let's call for help from outside the galaxy, surely there's someone friendly who can reach us!"
+Aaron MK God... And to think that just a few months ago, I would have been like all those other people out there who don't get the joke... Horrifying...
David Do Hell.. Any way that you "make peace" with them even if you are pacifist race or they don't give a fuck? A separation is about to happen in one of my sector so I am wondering what else to expect...
+Mr2000V it wasnt a civil war they used an ftl drive and ripped open a portal into another dimension when this happend to me i was humans and i had become like the empire in 40k and these fcks where tough to beat even with almost the whole galaxy under my command
This raises a good question, will Fallen Empires agree to join an alliance or a federation to fight against late game threats or would they not care at all until it declares war on them?
One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the extra dimensional invaders will soon be here. I, for one, welcome our new Unbidden overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted youtube commenter I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground energy generators.
+eli odum I believe I read that something like before and after the war against necrontyr and c'tans when they were the dominand species in the galaxy or something. But now they barely reproduce because of bad evolution/genes or something like that :D I know, I can't 100% remember the facts.
"Then the Unbidden showed..." Anyone else get a Mass Effect feeling that moment they showed up next to your home planet? Two 17s vs. my one 10. I mean, how are you supposed to deal with that? Then again, I was trying for a solo Galactic Conquest. No allies to rely on here...
+agidyne967 I got lucky and they spawned outside my huge empire. So i was able to jump in and pop the wh before they got to big. The only problem is i keep seeing you can get a new ftl from them that is awesome but all i got was some denominational death ray :(
+agidyne967 Bruh, if my 5k stack with a few ally stacks could fight off a 24k FE stack with vastly inferior power _and_ technology, anything is possible.
It's interesting to see how the north pretty much stagnated (I guess they had a federation going there) while the south was divided between a few warring states. And it's nice to know that the Lategame Crises aren't too strong (like, destroying all life within one year), but still a tough enemy.
Dimitri Goryenko I wonder what the Unbidden are actually *doing* Do they conquer every planet, spread a zombie virus, or do they simply eradicate all life?
It's interesting to see that the AI's utterly fail to respond to the disasters. Which means in a single player game it'll be up to the player. Might be a bit of the problem if it happens on the opposite end of the galaxy.
+GtfoGoogle Not exactly. Just create a federation/alliance (The AI could very well have a large alliance in this video. But we have no way of knowing) and prepare to combat them when the time comes. Also it would be be a stupid move by the AI on the other side of the galaxy to sail their troops for a year to fight the unbidden. Who knows what their neighbors might try to do. And the southern part of the galaxy seemed to be quite weak and divided anyway.
+NaniSore Have you read the Dev Diaries on these events? You can't take your sweet time and let them fester. They get WORSE over time. They took the robot revolution as an example and how either you deal with them early, or they're going to go out of hand and effectively crush you. Also the Star Hegemony (brown Empire) was about as big as the ones on top, they were overrun quick quickly. If you look at the lower red Empire, they also extended quite a ways up which you can see at their sigil moving as the Unbidden driving them back making them as big as the upper red Empire. So forming a federation/Alliance is great and dandy, it wont help you when they already crossed the treshold of snowballing out of control and will simply keep growing stronger as you at best stall them much less push them back.
+Will Ferrous Oh I don't disagree. The AI shouldn't really be able to deal with it. The issue I have is, imagine you're all the way in the North or North West. You couldn't really get to this to deal with it before it snowballs out of control. That's my problem.
GtfoGoogle That is a valid concern, though i honestly think the spread isn't as fast once it hit a certain size. It seems all the mechanisms that limits a normal empire to grow is also holding the menace back. (Also, federation)
At least 100 years must have passed since game start. 2000 year MTTH for each empire with no jump drive technology (Jump Drive or Psi Jump Drive). 200 year MTTH for each empire with one jump drive technology. 20 year MTTH for each empire with both jump drive technologies. 20% less time if empire has completed Wanderlust event chain. From stellaris wiki. The research is the danger, not the usage.
(bushfries) he's dead last I checked send the master chief instead hen can take down the dredj in half the time without uniting the galaxy and chasing some alien chick around trying to get in their pants
So around 2350 is considered late game? That seems a bit soon for me, though it could be less to do with dates and more to do with tech and the actual size and progression of Empires.
Robert Clark I suppose it could be highly random as well, could be 100 year periods from which they can trigger, but I see it as being reasonably easy to edit if its my preference. My preference is for a fairly slow start with lots of exploration and colonisation before I even meet another Empire.
+Lewis Carlin Something you also gotta keep in mind is that you get research from planets. There's always the chance that this was just a really high research galaxy.
+Lewis Carlin Considering it's a day by day Grand Strategy 4X, if you were to actually sit down and play it would likely end up being a 'late-game threat' after at least 8 hours, judging by the Blorg stream and the fact that they've had no late game threats yet, and this game which is in a smaller galaxy. It's also pretty certain that it's designed to be random; I'm guessing some empires are advanced enough to fight back, but there's a lot of new or rebel empires that spawned halfway through. Just like CK2 and EU4, if you're planning to play as optimal as possible and you know every mechanic in and out you could easily crush them. But luck of the draw with tech, with random planets with random events and random resources? There's never a guarantee when you start what you'll end up with.
+Lewis Carlin Tech is semi random. Someone could have drawn the jump drive tech really early. You probably wont get end game disasters until 15-25 hours in.
I feel like the fallen empires should look for allies and fight the Unbidden/extragalactic invaders/AI empire when they get too strong or threaten their existance (except xenophiles and isolationists?).
Isilationista would be the most likely to fight them if they are near them, while the xenophobia should probably instantly start a crusade and against them to ace as much alien life as possible
In my game, Unbidden invaded my vassal's empire and were crushed in less than 10 years with the combied might of me and mine 2 other vassals. Still, galaxy hates me for some purge wich happened decades ago and continues to insult me all the time.
+Moskitgp Very likely, by using a console command to spectate, like in many other Paradox games (ie: Europa Universalis IV you use the command 'observe'.)
+Moskitgp They actually said on they're multiplayer livestream that there is a button to play as an observer, so you shouldnt have to use console commands
Meshben: Hey guys there is unbidden fleets a few systems away, should we do anything or something? Meshben leader: Nah it's cool I'm sure that those empty few star systems will stop them and that our- *suddenly destroyed by unbidden*
