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Astral Planes added tones of new Relics to Stellaris, which is why we're going to add them to the Tier List. Also, there's been some changes to the game since the last time we played it, so we'll need to adjust those as well.
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@A_Spec
@A_Spec 7 месяцев назад
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@Rybakov22
@Rybakov22 5 месяцев назад
From what I see, The Key is very strong for Subspace Drive empires, because they essentially get bootleg legacy jump drive with the key active. They can jump without cooldown at all.
@doctorritos2114
@doctorritos2114 7 месяцев назад
Continuum should be S+ especially in the late game. Assuming it isn’t capped, 12 months of each resource can mean tens of thousands of energy, minerals, alloys, and research.
@louiswinterhoff334
@louiswinterhoff334 7 месяцев назад
Yeah but if your economy is big enough it isn’t worth it. The passive bonus is nice, but 12 months of income is just meh. In my current game I’m at the point where I’m constantly capping on resources and using this relic is just a waste of time
@edwing72
@edwing72 7 месяцев назад
@@louiswinterhoff334research is worth it, it can be capped.
@louiswinterhoff334
@louiswinterhoff334 7 месяцев назад
@@edwing72 when I have 6k research already and 9 relics I can activate, you can bet I’m not wasting 10 years on research with the activation cooldown
@tuskular
@tuskular 7 месяцев назад
@@louiswinterhoff334 6k research isn't actually that much especially if your going for 25x GA, your looking for minimum 10k by year 2400, and that if your suuuuper wide and going for 20k nav cap. Personally I prefer going much harder on tech for repeatable and staying at range, my record at the moment is 20k tech at year 2380 with no war.
@louiswinterhoff334
@louiswinterhoff334 7 месяцев назад
@@tuskular I’m on 1.5x crisis on commodore. Once I got to 5k research I kinda just stopped caring. I’ve got over 45 planets to manage and a few dozen fleets. I’ve also fully constructed a couple ring worlds that I could use for science but again I just don’t care at this point
@primordial7881
@primordial7881 7 месяцев назад
With all these relics in the game now. I feel that they should add war goals related to them.
@mouselord4167
@mouselord4167 7 месяцев назад
be a barbaric despoiler! it lets you do that.
@A_Spec
@A_Spec 7 месяцев назад
50% capture chance!
@koolunit
@koolunit 7 месяцев назад
Blood Ravens civic....
@thegamedoctor1457
@thegamedoctor1457 7 месяцев назад
There is also a mod for that, called Relic Mobility.
@adrianling3524
@adrianling3524 6 месяцев назад
Trazyn the infinite civic if you are machine empire)
@Skydragonace
@Skydragonace 7 месяцев назад
I think you might have missed the point of the Dimensional lock. YOU can still pass through them, so can anyone you've given access to, but it completely prevents any enemy from accessing your space through that wormhole/l-gate. The only empire I would rate that relic an F-tier on would be if they have no wormholes/l-gates in their space. Locking down ALL entry points except through hyperlanes is absolutely amazing. Yes, jump drives and the quantum catapult can bypass this, but it also could before. This is just another way to help defend your space. Edit: Forgot to mention gateways. Yea, the relic doesn't cover that since it specifies lgates and wormholes. However, if your empire is vast, using the relic will help with 2/3, which is less areas you need to focus your defense if your space is vast.
@blahmaster6k
@blahmaster6k 7 месяцев назад
Assuming you're talking about the Daedalus Seal relic, it's pretty terrible imo. A defensive starbase in-system, keeping reserve fleets around, or a fortress planet or habitat in a system with a wormhole are enough to effectively make your bypasses useless to your enemies, and are much more permanent solutions to the same problem that don't require you to waste your only relic activation on.
@Skydragonace
@Skydragonace 7 месяцев назад
@@blahmaster6k Here's the thing, by doing that ONE activation to lock down all systems from Lgates and wormholes, you don't have to have those defenses there and can allocate those resources elsewhere. One relic that performs the function of absurd numbers of resources and ship production in a large enough empire. Not to mention I can reallocate those starbases to giving me better bonuses. Honestly, that actually puts it far above most relics overall. I'm not sure what the minimum number of wormholes/lgates you need to make the math work on this, but if you are a large expanding empire, I'm using this every time.
@blahmaster6k
@blahmaster6k 7 месяцев назад
@@Skydragonace honestly in the late game most player empires have such an abundance of resources that the only limiter on economy is pop count. You really just need a single fortress for the ftl inhibitor and a big stack of cheap clone armies to effectively block off a system, and habitats are pretty cheap by mid-lategame standards to begin with. A habitat costs about as much as a single battleship, and if your empire is big enough to encompass more than one or two wormholes you probably have the equivalent fleet size of dozens of battleships by that point. My personal preference is just to keep a reserve fleet around that can respond to any threat, it doesn't require investing into any particular system and can go anywhere I need it, including responding to a surprise attack through a wormhole.
@blahmaster6k
@blahmaster6k 7 месяцев назад
Also if you're needing to worry about fleets coming through wormholes at all that probably means you've made a strategic error at some point. Pretty much rule #1 of strategy games in general is to never pick fights you can't win. The only reason you'd need to lock a bypass is if you can't match your enemy's fleets, which usually means you picked a fight you weren't prepared to win, or you managed your empire poorly and don't have a strong enough fleet or allies to protect you.
@louiswinterhoff334
@louiswinterhoff334 7 месяцев назад
Empires cannot use your gateways anyway unless you’ve given them open borders
@cp1cupcake
@cp1cupcake 7 месяцев назад
I thought dimensional locking only effected enemy ships, not your own.
@Skydragonace
@Skydragonace 7 месяцев назад
This is correct, you or anyone you've allowed through can bypass the lock. The ONLY empire that relic would be F-tier on would be one that doesn't have any wormholes/lgates in their space.
@whynot3d64
@whynot3d64 7 месяцев назад
i just got the vacum flower and my home world is is a tri star system with an k, g, and f class star. it gives me +300 energy, food, and minerals a month its crazy, totally worth crippling my economy for a few years.
@mamukich1121
@mamukich1121 7 месяцев назад
imagine getting eternal throne as a machine empire :((
@undeadking5121
@undeadking5121 7 месяцев назад
In a machine empire ur leaders can still die despite being Immortal as they can have programming issue and shut down unless they changed it
@TheSourcealpha
@TheSourcealpha 7 месяцев назад
The Daedalus Lock replaces several fortress worlds that would be otherwise needed to plug every wormhole and L-Gate in your empire. It's a S+ in my book and it was permanently active in my last playthrough.
@Llortnerof
@Llortnerof 7 месяцев назад
I'd say it's very dependent on what you're trying to do and where your empire is situated. It'll naturally be less useful if there just aren't many ways to get to you or you focus on more diplomatic solutions to unruly friends-to-be.
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 7 месяцев назад
I would argue the rubricator is just as good before, just in a different way. It is the only way to make your whole fleet using archeotech weapons and defenses a viable option. Plus, you get easy reverse engineering and other decisions without waiting for the small amount per month to tick up.
@braedengriffiths4249
@braedengriffiths4249 7 месяцев назад
You always get me to come back and play stellaris! Thanks for the content!
@A_Spec
@A_Spec 7 месяцев назад
You're welcome :D
@typhado5975
@typhado5975 7 месяцев назад
While I love the Plasmic Core I think it's S tear rather than S+. The downside is that you can't apply the plasmoid trait via gene modding. Which means if you have multiple planets when you get this it will take multiple activations 10 years apart to get the trait on all your pops.
@Go-ah-oold
@Go-ah-oold 7 месяцев назад
Not if you merge all pops to one world, activate it, and distribute all of them afterwords. A lot of micromanagement, sure, but possible.
@AndrewBezdenezhnykh
@AndrewBezdenezhnykh 5 месяцев назад
@@Go-ah-oold you don't even have to merge them, especially it the early game, just resettle 1 plasmoid pop to every other planet you already have and planets will grow all new pops with plasmoid trait
@buxtyboi4771
@buxtyboi4771 7 месяцев назад
I would argue that if the plasmic trait relic is more useful to one side of the game being organics then it cant really be S+ tier alongside the relics that are useful to every style of playing the game but that's just me
@christianresel8051
@christianresel8051 5 месяцев назад
7:42 you forgot that your own empire can still use those despite them being locked. It makes the L cluster quiet powerfull if your able to jump there, but no one else can anymore, or if the only gateway that you have can be blocked and only you can attack foes through it. Thou realy... if your able to build gateway's then your able to pulverize most foes anyway.
@robjohnson3095
@robjohnson3095 6 месяцев назад
I'm playing a Machine in my most recent game, and between the huge leader xp nerfs and not being able to rotate my leaders into the council for xp boosts, my leaders are slowly reaching lvl 5 when my council hit 10. I do have a lvl 7 scientist who has been hitting dig sites and rifts from a nearly time, but that means... no destiny traits, and the game is almost over... Although it is appropiate that machines don't rely on flashy leaders. The Plasma Core though... that thing put 3 new level 1 traits on one of my level 10 Cores! The Core already had most of the best traits, that's why I kept it at lvl 10, but still, 3 traits on the Council affecting the entire empire, that was pretty exciting.
@magnuskno
@magnuskno 7 месяцев назад
The Time Crystal got criminally underrated by ASpec. As soon as I got it, I always pulled the trigger on it ASAP, eventually getting all my leaders up to level 10 (which didn't happen in the games where I didn't get it). Yeah, having all immortal leaders is nice, but a.) that's the *passive* effect of the Eternal Throne and b.) later in the game your leaders are effectively immortal, anyway, since you repeat tech +5 years on them ad-finitum. Getting 800 XP every ten years reliably on ALL leaders is insanely good, since Aptitude was made completely worthless (3000 XP distributed on all leaders is not very much) and Statecraft only applies to the council leaders. I guess ASpec never actually used the active when he got it (if he got it at all, instead of just consoling it into existence).
@13g0man
@13g0man 7 месяцев назад
The Plasmic Core can be enhanced with gene modding - if you have some pops with the trait you can then spread that to all the other pops of the same species. If you hit the jackpot and a Gaia world or Habitat containing all of the species in your empire gets picked... you can then gene mod that trait onto your entire empire.
@Draythix
@Draythix 7 месяцев назад
Huh, I tried to spread the trait via gene modding and it wouldn't let me.
@LtShadowKitsune
@LtShadowKitsune 7 месяцев назад
The plasmic core and the surveyor are amazing with the new sovereign guardianship civic. In fact, I'd say Surveyor is S+ if you have that new civic because you do have to stop after you get a certain number of systems, so anything that can get you more resources without employing pops is always good. Plus, after a certain point, if you have that civic, you also will get the astral action to have two relics going, so you could just keep clicking the surveyor and just activate another relic that you also want. I will say one thing to note with the plasmic core if you are a tall empire with few worlds.You might not want to click this on CD. I don't know if it's intentional on paradox's part, a bug or if I just got with bad RNG, but when I got this I went for like 20-30 years with just two worlds because I was playing sovereign guardianship with a an ocean paradise start.I activated the relic three times and it never picked my capital world. So if you do get it, even as a wide empire, make sure when you activate it, it'll be benefiting a decent number of pops or it's not worth the CD, assuming you have other useful relics. Also I'd say the rubricator's value is really going to depend on how you roll on minor artifact deposits.I have no idea if the surveyor can spawn additional ones or not, I need to actually see what resources, other than astral thread, the surveyor doesn't spawn (pretty sure the good stuff like living metal, dark matter, zro, nanites and minor artifacts are still off the table). Anyways, I'd say rubricator can be absolutely useless if you get plenty of deposits early on. I say this because I do think players greatly under estimate the value of celebrate diversity, proclaim religious revelations and proclaim superiority. Yes, they aren't better than reverse engineering and usually don't beat out the secrets of precursors. The latter one can also lose value after a certain point because you just run out of places that need influence, depending on what you're doing. Celebrate diversity and proclaim religious revelations can be huge sources of unity; especially, if both are open to you and can be a quick way to get number of traditions selected before sprawl starts to slow things down or just pile in unity for stuff that needs it, like planetary ascensions. If you get eff all in the way of deposits, the rebricator can be a life line for getting your precursor secret or just being able to access reverse engineering action, even if you can only do it once every 10 or 20 years. I mean, it probably helps if you want to outfit your fleets with ancient weapons, since it's a fraction more, but probably better off going with another relic triumph. On the other hand, if you're good on minor artifacts and do go heavy on the ancient weapons, than the rubricator's passive does help there.Granted, the weapons really aren't worth it because of the costs.Though honestly, if you get eff all int he way of minor artifacts, you might want to take stock of your current game and access whether it's got enough going for it to make you enjoy finishing the game.If the answer is no, and you don't want to use the console to give yourself those minor artifacts (or can't), they you might want to start a new game.
@xKernel_official
@xKernel_official 7 месяцев назад
as for me, time crystal should be swapped with rubicator. If you get them early - time crystal gives more value, if you get them late - time crystal gives at least some value. The only reason wou might want rubicator in late is playing with archeotech fleets, which makes it very situational.
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 6 месяцев назад
the gate blocker one can be useful if you have it and the grey tempest hasn't been released yet. Or you can blockade the L gate cluster by preventing anyone getting into Terminal Egress - VERY useful if you're trying to stop the spread of a crisis or similar.
@Star_dragon8
@Star_dragon8 5 месяцев назад
Hi Aspec i have a question could you if possible link the vid where you and others had the stellaris stream
@adswars
@adswars 7 месяцев назад
Do you know if there is any special interaction with the Unbidden if you have the Eternal Throne ?
@ryorai5804
@ryorai5804 3 месяца назад
If I had to guess on the vaccum flower it is moreso boolean meaning that it only check if you have the "star" so I am not sure if it would work as you think in the great wound. However i havent checked the files so not sure.
@i3lackfusion
@i3lackfusion 7 месяцев назад
Just had a long match with the crystal, it was insane. I build quite a lot of resource silos on planets that had space left and on space stations. Every activation granted me +600k energy, basically making me not having to worry about more energy at all. I was able to comfortably sit at like -6k per month for quite some time
@0xbaadf00d
@0xbaadf00d 6 месяцев назад
Did I dream about playing Factorio with you ages ago on a vertical belt world, or not. I distictly remember designing some train stations with you. I see no youtube video of this and i'm left wondering if it ever happened.
@SaturnsMysteriousEye
@SaturnsMysteriousEye 7 месяцев назад
Very much undestimating the value of the Daedalus Seal. I don't think it's the most powerful relic in the game or anything, but with so many relics now I like that there are situational useful ones. The Daedalus Seal is extremely useful *if* you have a lot of wormholes, or if the L Cluster is open. Not only enemy empires, but Crisis fleets, will take advantage of those, and locking them down allows your fleets to concentrate on more important targets. I would've put it in B Tier.
@markwells3289
@markwells3289 6 месяцев назад
Does anyone know if the 'Unyielding' tree has been fixed? I have combed the patch notes, and have not seen it addressed.
@SilverScorpion428
@SilverScorpion428 7 месяцев назад
In regard to the key relic, it might actually be useful if it also works for ships that you can get for free but cannot actually upgrade.
@gOtze1337
@gOtze1337 7 месяцев назад
If u are Xenophob, the Baal Relic is even gooder imo. Free Gaia World + Slaves/Lifestock is S Tier for me 😉
@nicolaszan1845
@nicolaszan1845 7 месяцев назад
The Vacuum Flower is insanely powerful if you start in a trinary system. The new Riftworld origin, which I enjoy, forces you into one of these, so you can essentially endlessly add a hundred to 200 alloys, food, and consumer goods to your empire production without any need for extra systems or planets. This is specially useful when playing tall, and there is a civic for that to reduce your empire size from pops massively. In general just, great synergy. Get the right setup and by the midgame you are hundreds of resources per month in the green. Just churn out more things everywhere
@gijskramer1702
@gijskramer1702 6 месяцев назад
Is the ever spinning top a refference to the movie inception
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 6 месяцев назад
Klingons don't have B'Rel class warbirds. They have B'Rel class birds of prey (scouts/frigates). Warbirds are the D-7 / K'Tinga class cruisers.
@jasonsager4592
@jasonsager4592 6 месяцев назад
You are sleeping on the seal, popping that right after a war starts or when a crisis hits is a game changer. Yeah it's only 5 years, but that is 5 years where your fleets have far more freedom to move than your enemies.
@amugusq7567
@amugusq7567 6 месяцев назад
Honestly, cant say throne is OP. By the time(and if) you get it either your first generation of leaders is dead meaning your leaders are already not dying before you exit the game, or with venerable + cyborg/robust/synth/shroud buffed (all are easy to get) your leaders are kinda immortal already.
@Draythix
@Draythix 7 месяцев назад
I agree that the Plasmic Core is amazing! Unfortunately, the one time I've gotten it so far was late in a very 'Wide' playthrough with dozens of planets. I barely benefited from it's activation. >
@TheGriftcast
@TheGriftcast 7 месяцев назад
The contingency relic is great when youre doing all crises.
@J0krswy1d
@J0krswy1d 7 месяцев назад
Get some Nivlacs with that last one.
@CWJameson
@CWJameson 7 месяцев назад
I want a rift tier list lol
@chrishamilton7516
@chrishamilton7516 7 месяцев назад
9:42 You wanna run that by me again?
@kyltredragmire4939
@kyltredragmire4939 7 месяцев назад
Can we get a video telling us how to get them s tier relics?
@henrywilson2136
@henrywilson2136 7 месяцев назад
Time to start hunting.
@coffeenator3219
@coffeenator3219 7 месяцев назад
Time to collect all pokemons
@mariaveenema4337
@mariaveenema4337 3 месяца назад
The wording on the plasmic core. It says a planet. Not a planet you own or something like that.
@rempha
@rempha 6 месяцев назад
@A_Spec when a new series of Stellaris RU-vid games with other RU-vidrs?
@concidius
@concidius 7 месяцев назад
I would disagree with the added F tiers. Their bonuses are situational and not great but they don't really cost you anything to have. The worm is there because having it is worse than not having it. The new ones should be Ds or perhaps Es at worst.
@swordwaker7749
@swordwaker7749 6 месяцев назад
Daedalus seal is not F tier! Locking the L-cluster is really useful against the prethoryn scourge!
@leggomynihilego8253
@leggomynihilego8253 5 месяцев назад
Idk why you have Head of Zarqlan so low. Free Fallen Empire ships is pretty busted (and fun).
@Darlf_Sevil
@Darlf_Sevil 7 месяцев назад
Me drop a flower... Me need nee capitol station Me find perfect system NOW TIME FOR WAR It something like that evry time you drop it
@skoltrubaduren
@skoltrubaduren 7 месяцев назад
Maw of the toxic god, +3% monthly alloys AFTER all modifiers is nothing to just casually dismiss imo so it should be higher up
@wizard380
@wizard380 4 месяца назад
It's an interesting list but relics are random in a game. A civic tier list would be way more usefull.
@unciuncia420
@unciuncia420 7 месяцев назад
Honestly I don't think the Celestial tear is F tier. Especially when you get it early. Still definitely D though.
@codylowe1683
@codylowe1683 5 месяцев назад
I wish they updated xbox just as often as pc
@andoli1646
@andoli1646 7 месяцев назад
Wait why are dragonscales in F Tier?
@A_Spec
@A_Spec 7 месяцев назад
Wormscales, their passive is a negative and generally bad.
@andoli1646
@andoli1646 7 месяцев назад
@A_Spec yeah that active effect is kinda trash especially since the worm is so rare now
@El_Presidente_5337
@El_Presidente_5337 7 месяцев назад
Aspec stop coping. The Eubricator was always F tier. :DDD
@A_Spec
@A_Spec 7 месяцев назад
Wat,,,
@dreadscot1337
@dreadscot1337 7 месяцев назад
I like nachos
@Nick-jf7ku
@Nick-jf7ku 7 месяцев назад
Dont care Astral Planes is rubbish waste of money
@user-pk3nb8lq6x
@user-pk3nb8lq6x 5 месяцев назад
Imagine not going to a certain russian forum to "buy" it.
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