Stellaris - Scion Origin Mechanics (Forget about the other ones, this is the most overpowered start) 

Correction; no feds for Scions. :(

The "My dad is a lawyer" start

Overlord(s): "We love you. Here are some ships and goodies!" Me to the first empire I meet: "Your destruction is the will of the gods, and we are their instrument!"

I started as a scion with the goal of overthrowing my overlord for the challenge. I've got a million fleet power ready to go. But they've been so nice to me I just can't bring myself to do it.

Galaxy: “You’ve freed us from the FE!” Scions: “Oh I wouldn’t say “freed” more like “under new management””

Planet names: The Jewel (yes, tasteful and thematic), The Crystal (excellent, continuing the theme), The Middle Finger (wait wut?).

Fallen Empire: what do you have there scion? Scion: An ever spreading dominion across countless stars, killing and enslaving everyone we meet. You created me. You fuelled my inevitable expansion. You gave the noose that tightens evermore around your neck... Fallen empire: oh ok, have some more ships!

The Contingency: "You! Do you think this is funny?!" FE: "In a cosmic sort of way, yes." The Contingency: "Well Mister Funny Empire, is this how you get your sick kicks?!" FE: "What? It's just an ordinary galaxy ma-OH MY GOODNESS! SCIONS!"

SCION: I have brought peace too my new empire SUGAR DADDY: your new empire? SCION: Don't make me destroy you

When everybodys overpowered, no-one is.

So what you're saying Aspec is this is the perfect time to get the Deus Vult achievement

I could see starting as a machine empire then going all Age of Ultron on the Fallen Empire, "There are no strings on me."

Overlord: gives ships and supplies Scion: "Cawabunga it is!" Scion, when meeting other empires: *"DIE, GREENSKIN! BURN, XENOS! BURN IN HOLY FIRE"*

I chose remnant start it's a bit underwhelming. Supposedly your empire use to span most of the galaxy, it would be alot better if the precursor empire event chain was about what your empire use to be before it all collapsed and that there are traces of your empire's past glory scattered across the galaxy.

In my play through I was definitely not the “middle guy” and the scions I made for the fallen empire did not consider themselves “peasants”. In fact some of the other scions became my enemies. I also heard you will get less gifts if you make more scions. Don’t make more scions! Be the only child!

Wouldn't it make more sense if you start... errr... close to the Fallen Empire?

*Pacifist Scion*: We thank you for this gift of ascension, our beloved Overlords. We shall dedicate our existence to spreading the word of your benediction. *Militarist Scion*: WE SHALL DROWN YOUR FOES IN OCEANS OF THEIR OWN BLOOD FOR YOUR GLORY MY LORDS!!!

Finally i can call an Empire "Daddy" from the very start!

Man, I want an event on Scion to be you lose a war, go to sugar daddy and say "waah, that mean man beat me up!" And sugar daddy becomes an awakened empire and takes over that empire with that 500k fleet. that'd be hilarious.

Empire Leader: A great evil has raised many unbelievers in a far off land. In the name of the Gods, ships shall be built to carry our warriors out amongst the stars! Go! And bring the Word of Origin to all! Peasents: Hallowed are the Ori!

Ah yes the most overpowered start³

My adorable scion can't be this cute. I imagine on of the mega-rich, inscrutable and unknowable members of the Fallen Empire just falling in love with my race like we would with meerkats and bowling over all their usual non-interference rules because he, she or it just can't bear to see more of us die to space amoebas or getting bullied by vastly less cute neighbours. "Ye- Yes Valgoth. I know they used the surplus fleet to annex all their neighbours, bu- Listen to me, Valgoth. Look at them. No, shut up, just look at them man. Look at their little hands and how they fix their head fur when they're embarassed. I mean, I know we should let them grow up on their own and DID YOU JUST SEE THAT? That pink one just yawned! Send them more ships immediately! Do the usual thing, scuff them up a bit, scratch some of the paint, remove the blackhole generators and the other stuff that'll get them into trouble, you know the drill. Also, expand the surveillance network, I need more footage... For our xeno biology archives. Yes..."

So now we can make the eldar, orkz, and the necron so we can really recreate the war in heaven

The real goal of the Scion origin is to keep filthy xenos' borders off MY Senpai. Only I can touch Senpai.

Next up: Actually you know what? Doomsday is the most OP start

I think that to nerf this the boons should start out much smaller. "Hey Children, i kinda like the way your ships look (they're so cute!) so I made a bunch of corvettes with tech 2 levels above yours in my enigmatic garage as a hobby. You can have them if you want, my wife says they take up way too much space in our transdimensional attic."

I tried this with the Criminal Heritage+Gospel of the Masses Megacorp, it was quite fun having the 2 normal empires in the game afraid to kick me off their worlds. Of course i still got paced by the 8 other megacorps in the game.

In about mid game, when I had my own 20k fleets, I found an anomaly that gave me a 30k Fallen Empire-tech, fleet. It was pretty damn sweet lol.

Give a Scion two ships, and leave them unsipervised for 15 minutes. They will break the one and misplace the other. ... And conquer half the galaxy in the process.

Honestly you should be able to name/choose the type of fallen empire that you start with.

A fun thing is, if you submit to the Great Khan, and then rebel against them, when you claim victory you're no longer a scion, allowing you to break free around the midgame, but retain the scion opinion bonus.

Yeah this is a good beginners start. I spawned near a xenophobic slaving despot military dictatorship that had overwhelming fleet power and a belligerent attitude toward me. We bordered each other. Never messed with me. They know.... lol

When your empire is granted those extra ships it feels like that one scene from halo wars 1 where the arbiter is like “The ancients have granted us the power to doom your race!”

The Xenophobe: Oohoho! Look at what we have here! The Scion: I'm not ready D: Fallen Empire: You what now!? *Several ship gifts later* Xenophobe: ...Okay well you have a nice day, wonderful alien neighbor.

i’m a newer player and I think this is gonna be my very first origin then I start off with Loving all the origins you’re showing off keep it up

"My dad works at paradox"

I'm gonna be a pet fanatic purifier for my glorious spiritual overlords!

There's a few mechanics you might have missed on these origins. Some of the starts change slightly based on ethics. Right now I am playing a Subversive Cult Scion and my Overlords are the religious FE. Another species I have tested briefly was a Megachurch Hegemon Origin and the federation partners were also spiritualist to some degree.

I just realised, this must be what the Cardassians felt like when they joined the Dominion.

I embrace our new (insert) overlords.

*Turns the entire galaxy into scions* *revolts* Finally, a worthy opponent!

I was playing as a Scion empire, and the great kahn came around and destroyed me and in turn i became its vassal. But when the kahn split and died i was released as a free empire under no vassal. Very interesting.

Aspec: "I live in a cardboard box, I'm sad." Me: "Should have rolled Scion for your real life origin." ;P Haha, love the vids man, keep'em comming.

This is so RNG. I played some ironman Scion on a 1k galaxy to try it out. My overlord FE gave me an admiral and one free tech in 80 years, no ships. Still haven't gotten any ships 130 years in.

Huh, I always assumed this would be a form of challenge run, because of the mistaken impression I was under that the fallen empire would eventually intergrate you and force you to go to war with them to stop it.

I'm definitely using this origin in multiplayer with a bunch of friends who don't know what it does

Lmao, I did this in multiplayer. My friends got so mad

Thanks for going through the origins and breaking them down, really interesting and helpful.

ALL THESE VIDEOS IN A ROW GOT ME HYPED

Fallen Empire:"Here are some shi.... Me:"PUUUUUURGE"

FE: gives his pupils strongest fleet in galaxy scions: Blood for thr blood god, skulls for the skull throne!

Scion has room for interesting scenarios depending on yours an the fallen empire ethics type. Like actually messing with your empire with like culls, kidnaping, sacrifice, forced to have dangerous tech as a "Gift" etc

I'm looking at the planet roster there, and I'm thinking... "The Middle Finger?"

Challange: Play *against* a Scion empire.

I was going to hold out buying till there was a sale, but I wanted to support ASpec! Keep up the good work!

A friend selected this in a discord mp game and it's so broken, can't be attacked gives free ships, free alloys. We'll ban it from now on but it feels like they should balance origins imo. Like have it but don't have it be ridiculous, like only the fallen empire jumps in when the vassal empire is inferior or about to die and reduce the "holding hands part". Stellaris is one of the most sandboxie paradox games and this new expansions is a massive improvement but balance I feel is what companies should strive for.

really love your wording in this video !

For some reason I am happy that I founded out what the symbol of your empire before you mentioned :3

Couple of omissions here ASpec, Scions are unable to rival or be rivalled, you cannot have vassals of your own and they cannot join Federations. They can, however, join the Galactic Community and become a member of the Galactic Council.

Thanks for the video

It would be interesting if, as a Scion, you colonize the Holy Worlds, and then an event fires which basically starts a War in Heaven. Same thing if you Exterminatus a Holy World. The Spiritualist fallen empire should basically go ballistic on your overlord, possibly giving you the ability to declare independence during the chaos?

me: "Oh boy, I'll get rid of my entire fleet so they give me this sweet 9k treat." 50 years: *pass* Fallen Empire: "Here you go, kid. Take this for your foolish little wars." *gives 900 fleet* me: *dies* that didn't work out for me...

Triggers me every time when you. End. Your. Sentences. Like. This.

As a Scion, other countries can't ask to make commercial/research pacts with you since you aren't independent but you can still ask them. This also works the other way around round, meaning they can't remove any pacts.

Wait, would the AI even attack you at all in this situation, as that would bring your overlord into fight? If so, then yes, sandbox indeed.

"Our operation is small -that's why we're gonna have...tryouts...."

thanks very much!!!

I kept expecting “totally and utterly broken” everytime he showcase an OP feature. But then I remember this isn’t the spiffing Brit.

i saw the thumbnail of this vid and thought to myself and see if its really is op. after few mins of playing i saw someone fleet coming to my sector and thought that shite few mins in and im dead but it was the overlord navy 2.9 million power and a colossus lol

I tried void dwellers and really like it (makes 1 system only run much easier in the early game). Now I gotta try the scion lol.

This is like that one meme where there is a crab on top of the alligator/crocodile

if you have the xeno fallen empire in the game (and because of the open borders with everyone) you can scan their systems to find the shielded worlds and get an additional 17k fleet.

nice man

I would love if they add an event to that origin where there is a chance that part of your people want their freedom. You could decide either you join the rebel side or the loyalists. Part of your empire divides into a rebel empire. Your benefactor doesn't intervene as they see it as a part of test if the loyalists are worthy their trust. Would be interesting as both parties until that point would have profit from the gifts of their benefactor.

actually this would be a good way to experience and or test end game events, or what about the void i mean your getting all those odd events from that oh what if you go forgot the name but you become insanely powerfully for ten years then you become a tomb world and loose all your planets. Well no fear dear player your daddy will help you out =P (I mean the shourd)

Space Daddy: Are you winning son? Me: Yes.

I've been playing as scions in multiplayer and it's ridiculous how quickly I turned half the galaxy in other scions. A very fun origin, not balanced, but fun.

It would have been great if there was a game mechanism where the fallen empire would ask a set amount of your pops as sacrifice every 10 years or so for all the materials and technology it provides. It would tell a really cool moralistic SciFi story.

I've been waiting for this Origin mechanic.....

I'm inspired to do a custom game where the materialist and spiritualist fallen empires have vassrlized everyone and it's essentially a war in heaven from day one

I'm trying out Scion right now and it really is the most OP start you can possibly get. If you are a new player or just want to play a quick game where you wreck everyone then play a Scion game. Your sugar daddy will hold your hand through the entire game. Literally within the first 10 years of the game I got some ships from my Overlord. After that I just hard focused on tech and eco. Easyyy start.

I had assimilators to the north and purifiers next door. They did send me a lvl 7 admiral which was nice. But the purifiers declared war and they didn't help. Maybe they lost interest.

Reminds me of my second playthrough of Stellaris. I had just completed my first playthrough and wanted to do something more creative, so I created a fanatic spiritualist empire and periodically gave them "gifts" with console commands as if I were their god granting them blessings. Pretty decent roleplay but got old fast. Never finished that one.

Aspec, can you see about doing a Syncreatic Evolution + Slaver guilds/indentured assets? Thst combination is now available where it wasnt before. I made Umbrella Corporation in Stellaris using that. :D

I just noticed how federations is gonna make xenophiles stronger. I’m on console so it’s less spread out so easier to focus

Another cool benefit is that I was able to trade for strategic resources (especially living metal) with my overlord which I don't think you can usually do since fallen empires don't like you enough.

This is a very interesting I like it

With mods you can get something like a 12 segment ringworld start. And I just do planet_size 25

This is a perfect Stellaris anime story.

I think it would be fun if you could start as a fallen empire and your rival spawns somewhere else in the galaxy. As time goes by events would happen where you would interact with the other fallen empire. After some time your rival would awaken and then you would aswell. Causing a war in heaven. I think it would be interesting.

what happens if your fallen empire awakens?

This begs the question, what happens when there are two scions in the game, who follow two seperate, maybe even opposites, FE? Could you force a War in Heaven in the early game?

That's cool, but when I saw the image of the origin I thought that it would be like the isolationist fallen empire had created us to defend their neighbouring system and we could decide whether fight for our independence or serve them

Nice vid! I think this origin is for beginners, however.

Opted to try a scion as one of my pacifist civs. For some reason, the FE gave me a battle ship early in. I decided to try and bring peace to the galaxy by making everyone I could bend the knee to the glorious overlords. Sadly, things did not go well for my overlord when another empire awakened and my empire didn't wake up as well. Then the doom bots came.

Christ I can't believe that origins are 2 years old already. I felt like they were introduced last year!

Good Stellaris coverage, but I've noticed on the past few videos there some clicking sounds on the audio. Like you have an office mate with a mechanical keyboard?

This is the origin I love the most

Entitled player mode to all the freebies, just got to put in the work to conquer the galaxy. This playthrough mode makes sense if you're either: 1. Completely new (yes, I wrote this point. before it was mentioned in video) 2. Purposely drive up the crisis strength to insane levels. Maybe two crisis at 5 to 7 times normal strength at the same time via console command.

I knew it. Paradox BALANCE!