Stephen A. DEBATES which QB (besides Mahomes) is BEST to start a franchise with! | First Take 

I mean it’s about time, QB Debates start with "other than Mahomes" because he’s in a galaxy of his own.

Mahomes is so goated he’s not even in these conversations anymore 😂😂

I'm so glad Mahomes cemented himself to the point where we aren't hearing all off-season how (Insert AFC QB) Is going to unseat him and are they already better than Mahomes.

It’s funny because I remember when all of these analysts were bashing J Love lol.

1 - Mahomes 2- Burrow (healthy) 3- Stroud 4- Jackson 5- Allen 6- Herbert 7- Love 8- Stafford 9- Goff 10- Trevor

Lamar Jackson 2x MVP, 2x 1st team all pro, 3x pro bowler, top 4 win percentage in the history of the game.

Purdy won his first playoff game as a rookie too…

“Outside of Patrick” All that needs to be said. 👍

I’m glad people are finally recognizing that Patrick Mahomes is on another level

Lamar Jackson followed by Josh Allen. Those 2 have run the most qb centric offenses in the league.

This segment shows why Mike T. sitting at that desk & not running a team. Same guy who was satisfied with Ryan Tannehill as his starter for the Dolphins lol.

I love what C.J has done and he has a good coach too. But let's be honest Jordan is better with a higher ceiling. He beat Patrick and outperformed him head to head and was the #1 QB THE LAST HALF OF THE season He sat behind a a hall of famer for 2-3 years. He's learned things from Rodgers, Demeco can never teach Stroud.

Watching certain people discuss sports knowing they are not good evaluators of talent, they’re just saying stuff for ratings really irk me……I’m confused at how people can just ignore eye test based on 1 or 2seasons😂😂😂…….Jordan love doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Joe burrow, Jared Goff…….he not even Josh Allen, Brock Purdy, or Lamar…….but just goes to show you just because you’re in the sports world doesn’t mean you know them, also explains why the jets are still the dumpster fire they still are today

I love Seeing a Pittsburgh Steeler wearing a Pittsburgh Penguins Jersey!

Lamar Jackson

Geez I haven't watched forever "did I seen a ghost?" I thought ESPN didn't extend Ryan Clark's contract. Glad to see him still getting his bread still! 💪🏽

Josh Allen n Joe Burrow are all that come to mind

1.Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Jackson 4. Burrow 5. Stroud 6. Love 7. Herbert . They're all young and great. Love hasn't proven enough

Love that Pen's jersery!!!!

It’s not a popular opinion but he’ll be proven right. Jordan Love goes toe to toe with stroud in every tangible aspect but also he’s much more mature. Stroud has too much ego and emotional for a quarterback. If ya don’t believe in that sort of thing then so be it but Mike T has been on the mountain top of evaluating players for a living and he sees the same thing

“I just want to know. Are you okay?” -Stephen A. Smith🤣

Jordan Love aka the Love Thunder is the best choice.

Saying Love doesn’t have the stats as cj is insane … lol im taking Love all day. Its a lot of hype around Cj but i dont think he’s how they making him out to be, 23-5 is good but they acting like he was throwing a party against teams. Didn’t even touch close to 30tds and everyone on his meat😂Maybe im tripping

I dont engage in topics like these cause all it shows is how many casuals are in the comments. Good 85% are stat watchers or TV watching. Mahomes most definitely skewered every other afc Qb too cause literally non has won it all and it takes time. A Qb can play well in playoffs then other ones and still haven't got it done by winning it. You need the perfect situation from team Qb coaching and health and chiefs playing badly in the post season to get to the bowl. Turn on film and you can see what's wrong in-depth with a lot of teams. Dont want to hear the lamar can't throw either cause its only him and Mahomes with the most tds thrown with fewer then 50 picks or less reg season and playoffs. Dont want to hear burrow underperforming in playoff 4th quarters with 0 tds and 4 turnovers. Turn on film you can see lamar struggles against press man especially when Wrs ravens have aren't the taller physical kind either so all they have to do is bottle the primary TE and press their Wrs and god forbid run game dont work then the offense is screwed. Bengals from burrow 4th quarter struggles comes from offensive talent slowing down heavily in the 4th and coaching being super conservative and burrow not taking the wide open mid range shots but throwing it to the flat that's covered. Theres more like josh Allen but im not gonna get into that its gonna be extra long. Literally open ur eyes and notice for the past 6 years its been Mahomes and Brady to win a bowl in the afc. Best Qb afc besides Mahomes is hard to say cause theres so much circumstances, realistically it would have to be lamar with the most achievements, burrow got an argument but its hard cause lamar is 8-2 vs burrow burrow beats allen, Allen beats lamar. But if ur gonna take everything into consideration then its lamar burrow then allen. Co shroud making his way up there soon.

even without Stroud theres Burrow, Allen, and Lamar.

Sad that mahomes is the best qb by a long shot, 10 years ago this conversation would’ve had 5 different players compared to mahomes

If SAS doesn't agree with you you're probably right.

Diggs could be the downfall of the Texans, his demand for targets will affect Collins and Dell’s production and they will end up regressing. I hope I’m wrong cos I’m a Stroud fan but all it takes is one player causing culture problems

A guy with half a good season, with bad footwork and inaccurate passing? Weird flex bro. The guys throwing to wide open guys down the field with a completely clean pocket. That is the guy you'd start a team with?? You're a liar.

Man Jordan Love and CJ Stroud turned Justin Herbert from being NFL medias white knight to an afterthought.

The Joe Burrow disrespect. He recording this and watching it on repeat.

CJ hype feels kind of like that Fields hype last year. Im sure it wont be nowhere as bad but the expectation for this kid....I dont think he will reach it that quick. People are already talking about Superbowl with this kid. Have you seen his division?

stephen a is such a liar. he literally said before the greenbay game that there’s no way dallas loses.

25-5 well love was like 21-1 in the last 8 games

Nobody even mention who’s going to win MVP this year .. Tua!

“Mike T” is Mike Tomlin, don’t get it twisted.

Stroud easily. If Burrow wasn’t injured it would be him hands down.

Kind of a dumb take tbh there all young, stroud had 1 year, love has had 1 year either option would be a solid pick, I feel personally Houston was missing a coach, and a QB, there weapons were good, they had defence pieces, they just needed a few pieces. Time shall tell who the better qb will be

Jordan love & CJ Stroud had 1 good season. I always take exp than projection

Bro they just be saying anything. Devin singletary was running that thang last year.

Love had more touchdowns and played better in the playoffs than CJ.

If we don’t stop gassing, Jordan love, I am going to lose my mind. My family has two serial killers already. I don’t wanna be the third.

So joe flacco falling apart had nothing to do with it?

There’s only one answer, well 1 of two guys. Josh Allen or Joe Burrow. Any other name is wrong. Love CJ Stroud, gotta see him do it again though

Brock purdy has already won 4 playoff games and almost won a Super Bowl Lombardi

mahomes an Brady are treated like babies, sick of hearing “there just that good” NOPE not when the refs favour them every game nfl is toxic doesn’t deserve the loyal fans it has

Ima come back to this comment in 5 years and see how yall feel about J Love

Yall tripping like Lamar ain’t like that 😂 you telling me you really taking Jordan love over Lamar Jackson 🤦🏾‍♂️ we seen what 10 games of Jordan love actually playing good c’mon

Cj stroud based off last year

Jordan love had more passing yards and touchdown

I'll take Josh Allen, Joe burrow, Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert over love any day of the week

How Stephen A not say Lamar Jackson????

Joe Burrow not in this conversation?

Dak. He's just like his team; he sells but can't deliver.

im taking Purdy … sorry bout it

No offense but mahomes wouldn’t survive in any other generation of football besides this one. Mahomes is beyond lucky to not have to go against top tier defenders like Ray Lewis, and much more. Dude barely gets hit and people wanna sit here and act like he’s some god because defenders can’t even touch you now or else it’s a flag and you’re banned from playing. He would be been annihilated if this was in any other era.

Josh Allen not even being mentioned is criminal

CJ Stroud having an 80 overall on Madden 25 is also blasphemous

Mike T always proves why he is a FORMER NFL GM 😭😭

How does Greenbay just keeping drafting the right QB. No gaps in 30 years

Mahomes got kicked out the conversation lmfao sheesh

I don't understand how you could put Jordan Love over CJ.

I would start a franchise with Lamar, Joe Burrow, Herbert, Stroud over Jordan Love.

Every qb debate is which qb “other than mahomes” he’s so clearly ahead of every one else

The Josh Allen disrespect is insane.

Stroud & Love on the same level. They both was counted out. They both surprised the league as true first rnd picks. Lived up to it.

Nvidia reference? Didn't know Mike T was based.

Mike T on the Jordan Love boat. Go, Pack, go!

The answer is Justin Herbert. Saying Jordan Love over him is straight disrespectful

Brock purdy also won a 2 playoff games as a rookie

Cj is the new nfl player and quarterback that every kid can learn from he is very special and a great human being. He changed this organization and brought love for football in Houston and in the NFL. Amen to that .

Jordan Love glazing is crazy. He played great for half the season and now all of a sudden he’s the GOAT.

Purdy won a playoff game as a rookie

The more Mike T talks the more he embarrasses himself

Mahomes is so good that he’s been promoted out of these discussions. Behind Mahomes, Lamar is by far the most accomplished, Allen is probably the best eye-test wise, and Burrow is the most accurate and clutch. The problem is, Mahomes is better than each of them at their strongest aspect.

The Good thing is that Texans-Packers will play each other this year so we will see who wins the game.

Love is a good QB and will win because the Packers simply win...but putting him at your number 2 is a pretty good indication that ESPN needed something to talk about.

Besides Mahomes, there is no clear 2nd best QB in the league

CJ Stroud is a proven quarterback.... He's better than deshaun Watson.

As a Packers fan, I don’t think we’ve seen enough from either Jordan or CJ. I think they will both have great careers but at THIS point, I think it’s hard to say that one is better than the other.

It’s the fact we have to exclude Mahomes from these conversations, Mahomes the goat !!!!!

2 years and the disrespect to brock purdy is crazy . Ilove cj strout amd jordan love but. What purdy did in his first 2 year should make him top 5 in the league

Lamar, Burrow, Allen, Stroud in that order for me

Lemarvolus “Action” Jackson can we stop being disingenuous . He’s one of the only QBs in the league with a MVP 4th best win percentage of all time

Brock Prudy

Stephen a missing the point. Jordan love had more yards and more touchdowns last year. Also Jordan love played the 9ers tough if not for a couple missed throws packers would have won that game. CJ got blown out vs the ravens. CJ stroud is a beast though and will only become greater but I’m taking Love

I wouldn’t extend any of them. One year doesn’t make a star.

Gimme Stroud 😤 Edit: Excluding the more older QBs, Lamar, burrow, Allen, etc

Real ones know it’s Justin Herbert

I love when SAS's puberty voice comes out

I don't want to hear nothing about no lamar Jackson or dak Prescott. Okay regular season warriors 😂 can't win a playoff game at ALL 💯

Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Stroud easily over love. EASILY

Jordan ain’t a bad pick. He led his 7th seed over my 2nd seed DAL at their home which they were 16-0 and DAL had 9 all pros GB had 1.

CJ STROUD IS DOPE BUT IT WAS HIS ROOKIE YEAR,,,,LETS SEE WHAT HE DOES NEXT YEAR,,,,YEAR OF FILM ON THE BOOKS!!!!

So um a couple things. 1 everyone picked the Cowboys to beat the Packers in the playoffs last year and that includes SAS. 2nd the Texans did run the ball a ton, Devin Singletary was getting 25-30 rush attempts a game during the middle portion of the season. And 3rd Jordan Love did have the stats to back up his play. He was 2nd in the league in passing TDs, was more accurate than Stroud, missed less games, and also over the last 7-8 games was the better QB.

Brock Purdy

Stroud is nice. Im taking Jordan as well.

Besides mahomes? There is no comparing with mahomes. Debate shows have to leave mahomes out of it because its not even close.

This won't seem so outlandish when Love wins MVP next season

Jimmy garoppolo has the 2nd most superbowls in the nfl im taking him