Stephen Fry and John Cleese explore obsession with money and power - ‘Walk away!’ 

Always amazes me that if you can quote obscure historical an literary trivia you are automatically considered intelligent.

@@robgraham9234 Stephen can do far more than that.

@@juresaiyan not saying he can’t. Just making the observation about quoting arts based trivia is considered intellectual, but science based trivia makes you a geek cellar dweller.

@@robgraham9234The pessimist looks through a microscope. The optimist looks through a telescope. - Michael Faraday (paraphrased)

​@@robgraham9234But who in the world thinks that about people with science based trivia? Is Neil Degrasse Tyson considered a geek cellar dweller? I don't think so? Lack of any kind of social skills makes you a cellar dweller geek, not having knowledge of any kind. And if the cellar makes you happy, then F what anyone else thinks.

It's all that goose stepping he's been doing.

john cleese and stephen fry were diagnosed with a mental illness many years ago...... nuff said.

I wish I had half their money too, sorry but…you know … 🤷🏻‍♀️

​@@lor3999Thats strange, whilst listening to them speak the thought of money never crossed my mind once.

If someone offered me half their money or a small fraction of their time I would gladly accept the later.

I wouldn’t, incidentally has John has a stroke or something? Why can’t he open his mouth when he speaks!

And other people chatting in silence. What a bold and creative setup. Enjoyed so much.

Fascinating. Thought provoking. Light years ahead of anything on the telly here in the States. 👍🌹

john cleese and stephen fry were diagnosed with a mental illness many years ago...... nuff said.

Have a look at their most popular videos before saying it's not all bad.

@@alexandertaylor7316 Do you know what "it's not all bad" means? The existence of this single video which is not bad is sufficient to say "it's not all bad". Looking at other videos is completely unnecessary once we have an example of a video which isn't bad if all we are going to say is "it's not all bad." Nevertheless I did have a look at the channel's most popular videos, and am left wondering which of them you find so bad. There's a bunch of dull tabloid stuff about Schofield and the royals, but I'd just consider that boring not bad, and a lot of people clearly take an interest in it.

It’s actually fairly balanced Fry hates the tories

john cleese and stephen fry were diagnosed with a mental illness many years ago...... nuff said.

​@@alexandertaylor7316Made yourself look a bit of a knob there didn't you

Peter Thiel was one of the ones promising the "flying cars" and all he delivered was more useless companies and a load of funding for dodgy politics. He's a total hypocrite who is reaping the benefits of hind sight.

Nice

Peter Thiel who is gay but does all he can do damage image of LGBTQ people Peter Thiel who wants to start his own Olympics but without restrictions on drugs use to enhance performance. Peter Thiel may be a billionaire but not a person worth respecting.

A change for the worse as I often say, which happens to most new things now I think. New Novelties, for the sake of it being NEW, not the same or better. 😑

Zzzzzzzzzz

My dad was an idealist and would have had the same reaction. Glad his optimism about the human spirit remained untarnished when he died.

"Human nature" is what we make of it. We all want the world to work towards improvement of life for all with all this new tech, rather than just churning out novelties for profit-spinning, yet the very systems we run the world by are of their very nature all about competitive personal gain. We grow up in this world being trained and conditioned from everywhere in society to be competitive, selfish and greedy...if you don't fight for personal gain you end up on the streets, for one thing. People are deeply confused about what they want and what society ought to be. Big business and governments who are now fully just big business facilitators are actively spreading more disinformation than ever before to make people keep supporting products and systems that make them trillions in profits while damaging society, the environment and people's brains. Our systems need fundamental change, our education syllabuses and approach need fundamental change and WE need to fundamentally change our priorities together in order to even begin to make that happen. Not change as in capitalism vs communism nonsense, both those systems are archaic now.

Every product you own is a product of human endeavour in exchange for income.

GB news is going liberal.

he's one of the few who have the honesty to recognise John Cleese's importance in British culture. And no, I'm not talking about Faulty Towers, I'm talking about The Life of Brian and how Cleese and his gang took on the heads of the church and contributed to liberalising society. Amongst the beneficiaries: gays. I am sure that Stephen Fry acknowledges this in some way at some level.

He is there because of Cleese and who wouldn't?

​@@TessaTickleOr you could say that his gang put the boot into anything remotely sacred and left us the 'liberalised' mess we now have.

@@solaris6070 right but it's also true that attitudes were way too strict in the UK in the 1960s. Homosexuality was literally illegal til 1967 !!!!

I'm not religious, but if it weren't for my interest in spirituality I couldn't look to this world and hope to find such people. I can see how for people disenchanted by our institutions these days.......with no hollistic worldview with which to frame what happens on planet Earth (even if just hypotheticals).....it must create an inordiate ammount of suffering.

No, it was also good here, Uber is obviously better than what we had before. Weird takes imo, basically anti-capitalist from Stephen Fry 🤔

"Stephen this is simply the way of progress." I'm not sure that's quite true. The things you mention were really slow, taking years and decades to really have impact. Some of the things we're talking about now can have a huge impact in an incredibly short amount of time. Having the taxi industry thrown in to chaos essentially overnight IS disruptive. It causes a lot of problems very quickly. I think that is what they are really talking about.

You're right that things happen quicker now especially when the Internet is driving it. I do think that their central point is about greed vs social benefit. This is my point the it has always been there. The shift from coal to oil / gas may have happened slowly but the degree of disruption is still seen in 'mining communities' across the UK. The advent of computers and the arrival of automation turned manufacturing and its demand for labour upside down. The 70s and 80s were not a happy time in the UK because of this disruption and the working class was huge and poor. The few that got rich however , got very rich. The reference to "pigs in trousers" is the clincher, it's all about greed. The point you're making about pace of change is also a valid one. Greed on steroids with no thought for the downside to those already working in those industries and little done to protect them. The Thatcher approach to the miners and their communities..... @@SamIAm-kz4hg

Yeah especially robin Williams he appears with the apparently great oxbridge wit and I might add Oscar wild reincarnation Steven fry on a television , can’t remember the name of it but robin Williams wipes the floor with him , hope somebody out there can remember what programme it was!

To be perfectly honest, if I had that opportunity, I'd likely sit there mute, just to listen to them and (perhaps) pick their brains. But mostly just listen.

Yes all geniuses get educated at Oxford or Cambridge, don’t they!

I painted my wall magnolia as the celebrated themselves. My work unpaid,theirs as boring as my paint colour

Small potatoes.

I Find you comment abnormally unintelligent,it’s like you don’t know a single thing about this two

It can be noble… the the context of Facebook, it can also break things! 😅

Sure. Why wouldn’t you blame AI for problems that have started if not persisted a long time before AI came along. People are just consuming content these days instead of knowledge or information. Students in schools are required to function and regurgitate a curriculum instead of truely learning and understanding let alone debating any topic. People are becoming more and more antisocial and dare I say stupid. Don‘t need AI for that.

AI has nothing to do with people not talking to each other any more. They are just to busy screaming at each other at the top of their voices.

because of capitalism.

@@Stafus Because of greed, which can exist in any system, but you probably learned your views in the very institutions that are destroying the world with their rhetoric.

Exactly! Nothing new really Same thing is happening with AI

Being “all about the money” hasn’t happened to Wikipedia yet. Hope it never does. Jimmy Wales insists on no commercials and asks for donations to keep the website going.

@@KimClark-1 Wikipedia has a clear bias in one direction though and as such I wouldn't trust it. It's also notoriously inaccurate and that's why teachers don't allow it as a source for research.

???

Excuse me?!

lmao wtf are you even talking about, do you even have a clue yourself?

Sorry , I should have said Two British Gods

Or knowing you can make more. Or realizing you don't need all that much money at all.

@@ClintLock1 Yes. Agreed.

money is just a form of power, you spend your power to buy things, you get power when you are paid, everyone wants power, money is just a transmission method

To be fair, I imagine they are both millionaires (as they should be, considering all the good work they've done), but at the same time, the quality of their work is exactly why they are millionaires. ...or they at least should be.

Also to be fair both are basically working class compared to the people they are talking about like Bill Gates and Mark Zucherberg. Those two alone have a net worth that is about half the GDP of Sydney which contains 5 million people.

true. we think of innovation as a race to power & prosperity. but in fact, it is a form of evolution, and we have no idea what we will become.

Well he was in Python😊

it is a medieval castle :)