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This video is a comprehensive breakdown of the basics of speaker placement for quality stereo playback.
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"Stereo playback is over a hundred years old, but the principles behind the technology haven’t really changed. Two audio signals are played through two separate speakers that are positioned so that the combination of the two signals creates a coherent sound space.
It’s a simple illusion that makes the reproduced sound that much more vivid by letting the listener localize individual elements. As basic as this technology is, it only works if the speakers are positioned properly.
If you’ve researched room setup before you’re probably already aware of the equilateral triangle setup. Setting your speakers up so that the distance between your listening position and each speaker is the same as the distance between the speakers forms a symmetrical layout that ensures the sound from each speaker reaches the listening position in sync. Push one speaker closer than the other and the sound stage will be distorted as one channel arrives at your ears slightly sooner than the other.
Symmetry isn’t just important for the measurements between the speakers and the listening position, but their placement within the room should also be symmetrical so that the reflected sound from the surrounding surfaces also reaches the listener in sync.
So where you place your speakers is going to be based on your room size and listening position. Ideally your listening position should be placed on one of the room’s thirds and avoid the null in the center of the room.
It’s almost always a better idea to have your listening position face the shorter wall. With the speakers aimed down the length of the room, bass frequencies have moretime to develop and have less energy by the time they strike the rear wall which will make treating your bass issues a lot easier.
Based on these principles, the starting layout is always the same: An equilateral triangle formed between the listening position and the speakers centered along the length of the room.
You’ll also want to make sure that the speakers are seated at ear level with the listening position. Generally, Half way between the woofer and tweeter is the acoustic axis of the speaker. It’s also a better idea to have the speakers on dedicated stands then on your desk. (this could be expanded upon)
From here we can adjust the speakers to finetune our soundstage. Toeing the speakers in can reduce the amount of reflections off the side wall and help make the center channel clearer.
Bringing the speakers closer together will reduce stereo elements for a more homogenous sound while pulling them further apart will make stereo elements more distinct.
Finding the ideal layout for your soundstage requires experimenting
with your speaker placement, but as you move your speakers around, the reflections from the front wall, side wall, and floor can cause acoustic issues known as Speaker boundary interference Response or SBIR. The trick to speaker placement is finding the ideal balance between crafting a great soundstage and minimizing the unwanted effects of SBIR. Treating around your speakers with thick bass traps can help minimize SBIR leaving you more room to focus on your soundstage.
If you’re using a subwoofer and both the sub and speakers have an adjustable crossover frequency, then you can reroute frequencies to your subwoofer that might be causing SBIR issues, or leave out specific frequencies that might be causing issues.
Where you place the subwoofer is obviously going to have a substantial effect on your bass response. Placing the subwoofer in the corner of the room will excite all three of the axial room modes which will result in a very strong but uneven bass response.
Placing the Sub one fourth of the way out from the wall will have the Subwoofer on a null which will keep it from exciting that room mode.
By using two subwoofers we can use phase cancellation to our advantage in order to achieve a flatter response.
Placing the subwoofers in opposite corners will cause the subs to excite the same room mode but one will be 180 degrees out of phase with the other, so the mode gets canceled out. There are a few different placement options that can take advantage of this effect. All of them make use the second subwoofer to cancel out the resonance of one or more room modes.
The same concept can be applied to a room using four or more subwoofers, but you can expect dimensioning returns the more subwoofers you add.
The combination of a fine tuned speaker placement and a comprehensive treatment strategy is the key to having a great sounding room. Good speaker placement can’t eliminate all of the issues in a room, but it can give you a better starting point to focus treatment where you really need it."

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@kaedeschulz5422
@kaedeschulz5422 Год назад
Never seen a video ao simple yet so good at showing the problems and how to solve them. Great!
@blackmushi26
@blackmushi26 2 года назад
After watching this video I raised the level of my speakers and it's made an incredible difference. Thank you!
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
Great to hear!
@daiblaze1396
@daiblaze1396 Год назад
Nice animation, great content, short video. Thank you for the reminder !
@Gedalneil
@Gedalneil 2 года назад
Clear and clean. Thank you
@WatchingTrainsGoBy-PassingTime
@WatchingTrainsGoBy-PassingTime 2 года назад
It gets way more tricky when you can't center your listening position in the room, or within the speakers placement from the walls. ONE THING that is consistently missing from all of these videos I've seen, is EXAMPLES of the differences in sound. I have yet to find any video that does the things they are explaining in order for viewers to hear it before hand to get a real appreciation and understanding of how theses changes work in the real world. And if it's even worth moving any furniture around or buying treatments to aid in the sound.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
Truth is, we really don't have an Examples video like you've mentioned here, but that's a great idea for an upcoming project. For now, we do have a video on Asymmetric rooms, which applies the same concept. Even if your room IS perfectly rectangular, but you have to set up off centered, the concepts in this video would apply. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wOTAS7ncihI.html
@JC.LC.
@JC.LC. Год назад
Great video!
@leandrosilva6414
@leandrosilva6414 3 года назад
Great Videos! Keep it Up GIK!!
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 3 года назад
Glad you like them!
@cesarbadell9780
@cesarbadell9780 Год назад
Excellent Video !!!!❤
@thaexception3406
@thaexception3406 Год назад
Informative!
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 2 года назад
Is this specific to near field and audio monitoring? I was surprised to see the recommendation for listening position being in the first third, not back.
@bindaredundat-uv6wz
@bindaredundat-uv6wz Год назад
I DID EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND NICKELBACK STILL SUCKS !!!!
@Ali_ReBORN
@Ali_ReBORN 5 месяцев назад
Hah hah hah.. this really made me laugh bro! Let me guess, too bright and thin right? 😆
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 4 месяца назад
Try headphones to check first. If that fixes it's the speakers and or room.. I had problems, my solution bought another house.
@Lai43
@Lai43 3 месяца назад
😂
@MrMontyBanks
@MrMontyBanks Год назад
Well, it's all about symmetry, Ok. But how about placing near-field studio speakers? Does the distance between them matter as it's difficult to maintain an equilateral triangle quite often?
@divyanshushakya7320
@divyanshushakya7320 Год назад
nice ..i like it
@muhamedtrumic4700
@muhamedtrumic4700 2 года назад
What should I do, since my right speaker is around 40cm from right wall, and left is more than 1m, and I cant move my desk since left is door, and my room is small and already full. This is best position for my pc and desk ?
@ricksalt6860
@ricksalt6860 2 года назад
From articles in the past , speakers should be 3 to 1 = distance to width .
@downeys1
@downeys1 Год назад
May I ask that in a perfect world, the speakers would not be pointed inwards at all?
@rrchannel2464
@rrchannel2464 11 месяцев назад
Human ears are fixed at about a 150 degree configuration. I have found that setting my speakers in this way rather than the equalateral(sp?) triangle is mucho better for stereo imaging.
@MatthewWright001
@MatthewWright001 Год назад
Best non "sound bro" video on this lol
@mehdihouari
@mehdihouari Год назад
Nice bro can i use 2 speakers behind me
@RodrigoLana
@RodrigoLana 2 года назад
Já curto antes de assistir
@craighoffman6876
@craighoffman6876 2 года назад
Due to a mess created by reflected sound, 90% of my listening room's sound is not great to pretty awful, but it is fantastic at the sweet spot where my listening chair is, with great imaging and tonal balance. That is all that matters, and pretty typical for an untreated room I wager. Speaking of room treatment, what is it with the ridiculous cost of room treatment material? You would think the stuff is made of gold bullion. A buddy got a load of it from a failed church at fire sale prices. He may be going to Hell, but he got a good deal on very nice material ;)
@downeys1
@downeys1 Год назад
Interesting. I experienced the same - as walking around the room clapping my hands, there is too much echo, yet where the listening chair is located, clapping my hands, there is zero echo. My room is slightly treated - first reflection and corner traps.
@craighoffman6876
@craighoffman6876 Год назад
@@downeys1 Similar here. I have a stereo setup and sit fairly close to the speakers also, which helps take the room out of the equation to some degree. The friend I mentioned in my post had a home theatre setup with many speakers and he spent a lot of time treating the room, measuring and doing DSP on it. I think he spent more time tuning the room than he spent finishing his whole basement. A rabbit hole for sure! It was pretty fantastic home theatre though, with twin SVS SB4000 subs that literally felt like they could make one's hair stand on end during movie scenes with deep bass. For me the program is minimal treatment, sit close to two speakers in a nice triangle, which correlates to the distance I should be from the 65" TV anyway, and carry on with my life. If one is in the back of the room, too bad for them 😆
@TecumsehSherman36
@TecumsehSherman36 2 года назад
I DIDN'T GET THE SUB WOOFER PLACEMENT PART
@jcvccp
@jcvccp 3 года назад
What happend if i am at 4.5m of my speakers? Should i have a perfect triangle between them with 4.5m too? Or can i have 2.5m between speakers and 4.5 to the sofa. I am asking that because I don't have sufficient room to open them more.
@eetu2532
@eetu2532 3 года назад
Yep, bring your sofa 2m closer if possible! Your soundstage will improve a lot and you will also get more direct vs reflected sound resulting in more resolution.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 3 года назад
@joao 2.5-4.5m variances will mean pretty narrow placement, so the imaging will not be as wide. It's a question of how much that bothers you. You can still enjoy listening to music even with suboptimal listening setups. If you are open to new setups, experimentation always wins, it's best to try multiple setups and see what sounds best if you are prioritizing sound quality in the room. Evaluate by listening to very familiar, well-recorded music and if possible by testing with REW or similar.
@jdestiniibeats123
@jdestiniibeats123 3 года назад
What happens if you don't have symmetrical room 😑 I found a good spot still though
@lightice1387
@lightice1387 Год назад
then one needs to buy a new house to accommodate placement of these speakers 😅
@stevenvox6549
@stevenvox6549 Год назад
I think a lot of people would disagree with the advice in this video. I think you need to sit farther away for the stereo effect to come together.
@freekwo7772
@freekwo7772 2 месяца назад
Stereo dates from late 1950’s as a recording option. Even the Beatles didn’t record in stereo but their latest albums.
@QQ-td9id
@QQ-td9id Год назад
Why to avoid the "null" center 1/3 of the room? If to sit at 1/3 of the room, also consider minimum distances A, B, C about 8 - 10' each, plus the distance behind the speaker and the distance between speaker and the side walls, then how big the room has to be ? At least 40' long? That's unrealistic!
@andreasenstrom7911
@andreasenstrom7911 5 месяцев назад
but were is the acustic axis of the speaker if it is a threeway speaker?
@Sean-fj9pn
@Sean-fj9pn Месяц назад
Same. Between tweeter and midrange driver.
@histubeness
@histubeness 2 года назад
This is generally good advice, but the listener should be moved much farther back in the room, while the speakers should be pulled farther out into the room, at least a third way out, if not more. You can still maintain the triangle that way, but the listener will experience much better soundstage depth perception.
@daviddegratie9189
@daviddegratie9189 5 месяцев назад
Yes and only if the room is big enough, mine for instance is super small so the best option is to put the speakers closest to the wall possible to limit the accentuation of the modes from the room
@skularatna8136
@skularatna8136 2 года назад
Not all speakers need to be toed in. Mine have much better imaging left firing straight without toe in.
@TT-df9hp
@TT-df9hp Год назад
I wished I'd have never known about peaks and nulls. It makes it so difficult to enjoy music when you can hear certain notes ring out louder than others.
@rcs5573
@rcs5573 Год назад
They say " Ignorance is bliss". I agree with you.
@stevenvox6549
@stevenvox6549 Год назад
I think how far apart the speakers are from each other is important and doesn't cost anything to change. I moved them closer together which keeps them away from side walls, but I don't listen to loud music.
@TT-df9hp
@TT-df9hp Год назад
@@stevenvox6549 That can help too. Seating position is the biggest factor I've found. Just moving the desk a few feet left or right will drastically change the bass response.
@russellparker4568
@russellparker4568 2 года назад
Its all good advice but there are so many variants to consider too that most of this advice probably wont help much. If we're taking about bare rooms then its perfect.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
There are indeed many variants to consider. We have more videos on the subject of room treatment starting with speaker positioning including non-symmetrical rooms and other variables that may change the treatment strategy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wOTAS7ncihI.html
@XX-qi5eu
@XX-qi5eu 2 года назад
The best room treatment I ever got for my $5000 music system --was a $30,000 music system.
@medonk12rs
@medonk12rs Год назад
xD
@kevinliu4797
@kevinliu4797 2 года назад
I have great stereo system but a horrible asymmetrical room that can’t do justice to my stereo system.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
Not to fret, we have a video on this subject that might illuminate some ways to make your system sound better in your asymmetrical room. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wOTAS7ncihI.html
@amankataria100
@amankataria100 5 месяцев назад
in a 12 x 12 sized room... i can not judge distance in two speaker with sound travel difference like Bats 🦇 . i can judge only if one speaker is loud then other 😂
@kevmichael2064
@kevmichael2064 2 года назад
The Should Not Be Facing U....the Left Speaker Should Be Facing Straight To The Left.....The Same With The Straight To The Right..... Must Get It...So The Sound Bounce Off The Wall.... Donot Have The Speaker If Possible On The Flore....It Should Sound Good....
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 2 года назад
The "33% Rule" and "38% Rule" should no longer be used as suggestions. It's close but not accurate. 33% or 32.8% ONLY works in longer length rooms. 38% is too close to the 4th harmonic null at 37.5%. The real listening position is at 39.6%. Why? Because it's exactly in-between the 4th (37.5%) and 6th (41.7%) harmonic null. You have 37.5% + 41.7% / 2 = 39.6%. So if you are keeping your head in-between the harmonic nulls, then your possible Listening Position options between harmonic nulls will always be the same in any room: 32.8%, 39.6%, or 45.8%. Room length makes a big difference is where the Listening Position will be located. There's no way a Listening Position of 32.8% or 39.6% will work in a small length room. Small rooms will have a Listening Position of 45.8%, medium length rooms will be 39.6%, and only rooms with longer lengths will be 32.8%. Overall the 38% Rule is inaccurate, is outdated, and doesn't work for every room length.
@ryanwilliams7166
@ryanwilliams7166 11 месяцев назад
you seam to know your stuff! using this info on my new studio. any insights on what would be the ideal distance away from the walls for MicroMain27 in a room thats 19ft 2 inches (length) by 14ft 4 inches (width)? thank you for sharing your knowledge!! true lifesaver
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 11 месяцев назад
​@@ryanwilliams7166 For a 14'-4" x 19'-2" room, your listening position will be at 32.8%, which will put you midway between the 5th and 7th room nodes. From the front wall to the 32.8% listening position point will be 6'-4". From the front wall to the center point of the studio monitor will be 3'-1" and from the side wall to the center point of the studio monitor will be 4'-5". Your studio monitors will be 5'-6" apart measured from monitor top center point to monitor top center point (4'-5" + 5'-6" + 4'-5" = 14'-4"). The listening distance measured from the listening position to the center point of the studio monitor will be 4'-6". The barefoot MM27 user manual states you need a minimum recommended listening distance is at least 1 meter (3'-3") so this puts you a 1'-3" over that. For the needed measurements, you will need adjustable speaker stands. I highly recommend the heavy-duty K&M Konig & Meyer 26720.
@gdevelek
@gdevelek 2 года назад
The most important things (after the triangle) are distance from back wall, side wall and floor, and you failed to provide any concrete advice on that.
@marcosrotllan
@marcosrotllan 2 года назад
Buy 3 more subs to improve your main sub.
@madpedalboards
@madpedalboards 2 года назад
Is it driving anyone else crazy that the speakers behind him are misaligned? 😆
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 2 года назад
Not being symmetrical doesn't nessecerilly mean they are mis aligned in an audio sense, due to furnishings in the room creating an uneven response.
@garynumen13
@garynumen13 2 года назад
@@markrigg6623 While that can be true, looking at the desk he is standing in front of as the seating position, I don't think that would be the case here. I could always be wrong.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 2 года назад
@@garynumen13 Yep fair enough. Personally I have to have mine symmetrical or it drives me crazy, even though it may not be the best sonically. So yes, looking at that vid does drive me crazy.
@garynumen13
@garynumen13 2 года назад
@@markrigg6623 🤣 Me too!!
@stefannewels1823
@stefannewels1823 9 месяцев назад
The PC Monitor Placement like displayed is really not that optimal..sorry 😅 Otherwise informative
@johnholmes912
@johnholmes912 2 года назад
"off of " is not English
@Borey567
@Borey567 2 года назад
Who has more than one subwoofer?
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
@Borey567 - See around 3:25, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mcB1jKs_ifU.html We are working on a more focused video that answers this question more comprehensively, but the gist of it is it is a strategy that uses phase cancellation to achieve a flatter response.
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 года назад
The answer is MANY. 2 cheap subs will be better than 1 expensive sub in most cases.
@nyny
@nyny 2 года назад
@@GIKAcousticsLLC Would it mitigate the need for bass traps?
@Goffix2009
@Goffix2009 2 года назад
Speaker wire length should be equal also. Allowing signals to reach speakers at the same time.
@JereR
@JereR 2 года назад
Wut? That is not a thing!
@meomarte
@meomarte 2 года назад
At the speed of light a small difference will not make any relevant change in sound - timewise. Speaker cables should indeed be of equal length because they dampen more high frequencies the longer they are. They shouldn´t do that differently in different speakers. Using quality cables will make this difference smaller, but it´s a good rule of thumb regardless.
@robinpatterson9433
@robinpatterson9433 2 года назад
Who has a bare room with no furniture in the way. ?
@jargero8203
@jargero8203 2 года назад
He said homogenius.... rather than homogeneous
@lore88824
@lore88824 2 года назад
I am amazed at how an acoustic treatment manufacturer can be so inaccurate about the visual cues of the informations it gives: at 1:37 you are speaking of the basic principle of the equilateral triangle speakers setup, but what you are showing on screen just isn't equilateral. I understand the image used is from a perspective angle, but that's simply the wrong way of showing it. And you keep repeating that mistake throughout the video, like at 3:00, where there isn't even perspective being the image shown from the top and, again, the triangle isn't equilateral, with speakers not even directed to the listener but straight ahead to the back wall. Bad. This way you are giving conflicting and misleading informations to the potential users, and you really should think about this.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 2 года назад
I assure you, we think about our video scripts a lot. There's nothing misleading about this. The equilateral triangle model for speaker placement just means the distance between each speaker is the same as the distance between the back of your head and each speaker. The lines of the imaginary triangle should just graze your ears as it continues to the point behind your head. The photos shown are equilateral triangles, or depictions thereof. Not to worry, the concept is simple enough to understand. Regarding toe-ing in the speaker so they are angled toward the listener, that's a different issue, ie, speakers can be toed in both in an equilateral or non-equilateral triangle setup. Angling speakers like this is a common practice but it's not the only way to do it. Different speakers have different dispersion characteristics and may benefit differently (or not at all) from a toed-in setup. As always, experiment to see what works best for you. In most rooms I'd use the advice in this video as a starting point for experimentation.
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 года назад
Misleading? You are the one that seems to be confused, no one else is.
@lore88824
@lore88824 2 года назад
@@-MarkWinston- probably nobody is because the average level of comprehension of basic principles like geometry and simple acoustics is so low nowdays on social media that anything is taken for granted. And if you say so you are probably part of those, so back to your primary school to understand what an equilateral triangle is…
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 года назад
@@lore88824 ive seen many smartasses like you online trying to act all smart and shit. Go ahead, you sound real intelligent.
@lore88824
@lore88824 2 года назад
@@-MarkWinston- I know I am, don’t need to remind me, but thank you. And anyway, you came at me doing the smartass, if you can’t take comments supported by facts then just avoid embarassing yourself.
@physicalspecialist8944
@physicalspecialist8944 3 года назад
Stereo playback hasnt been around for over a hundred years, back in the day they only had mono systems, at least get your facts right.
@GIKAcousticsLLC
@GIKAcousticsLLC 3 года назад
Clément Ader demonstrated the first two-channel audio system in Paris in 1881.
@bradt.3555
@bradt.3555 2 года назад
@@GIKAcousticsLLC , Yes but it died away, Alan Blumlien, in the 1930's is the one who really brought stereophonic sound into use as we know it, and RCA was very instrumental in bringing it to us with some of the first consumer stereo's and record's. That was around mid to late 1950's. I remember my gramp getting his first RCA stereo and still have many of his records from 1958. So stereo sound as we think of listening is more like a half century old.
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 года назад
@@bradt.3555 if the first system was shown in 1881, regardless how it died off and came back again and regardless of how many times it died off, it is still 100 over years of evolution. Being born in the year 2000 and being in a coma from 2005 - 2020 doesnt make you 6 years old in 2021.
@bradt.3555
@bradt.3555 2 года назад
@@-MarkWinston- , True , but you will have only accumulated 6 years of knowledge. It's not evolving if it's sitting dormant.
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 года назад
@@bradt.3555 being dormant IS and CAN be part of evolution. Somethings dont keep on progressing continuously.
@christian.m.schneider
@christian.m.schneider 3 года назад
Please get a better microphone for your next videos - the audio quality of these videos does not fit to the GIK products quality.
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