Stereo Width Production Trick For Clarity and Space

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NOTE: There is a part where I talk about needing to press the "Stereoize" button for the effect to work. I should have clarified that this button needs to be pressed if your source is in MONO. If you already have some stereo width to your sound, this button is not essential. I hope I didn't cause confusion that this button must be pressed before the plugin does anything, I was only referring to MONO sources (Which is what we used in this video, the Rhodes and vocal). What I was referring to is also a common thing I see where a plugin being tweaked in "bypass" mode but the person swears it is making a difference.
This simple stereo width trick really gives a lot of space and focus to the vocal and transforms the sound of the song from a classic recording sound to a modern soundscape. Sometimes when trying to make an element more clear (such as the vocals) it's good to look at things competing with that element as opposed to trying to boost the clarity in the vocal. As with all stereo techniques make sure the sound doesn't end up out of phase or degraded too much, this technique can often be a "less is more" thing.
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@inthemix 6 лет назад

@Mentalolz 6 лет назад

In The Mix cheating the first comment before its uploaded tut tut tut

@nervz3837 6 лет назад

Oh my god. You ruined my life for a moment. I had to check one of my projects and see if its truth...

@inthemix 6 лет назад

Nervz many apologies,I was only thinking about MONO and was very single tracked in my thinking

@nervz3837 6 лет назад

All ok :)

@mayankpant274 6 лет назад

Please do a full start to finish tutorial ☁💟💟☁💟💟☁ 💟💟💟💟💟💟💟 💟💟💟💟💟💟💟 ☁💟💟💟💟💟☁ ☁☁💟💟💟☁☁ ☁☁☁💟☁☁☁

@JavierSanchez-eo8rg 3 года назад

The very first thing i do when i open your video is dropping a like. Before seeing it man, excellent.

@timhardman9386 2 года назад

Exactly what I was needing. Thank you 😉👍🏻

@邹炭 3 года назад

Really relaxing to listen you teaching. Also, chill song

@emilyfox5073 3 года назад

I really love your videos, you help me a lot!

@mindwis3 5 лет назад

love your tutorials

@sreejishnair5922 6 лет назад

Great tutorial but i really wanted to know more about phase issue coz that's the one concept i never understood please can make a in depth video on phase issues???

@inthemix 6 лет назад

Sreejish Nair Absolutely, I'll try my best to simplify it :)

@sabboumusicc 11 месяцев назад

Thank you :)

@alishad9451 5 лет назад

Hi sir how r u can I know how to place pads on rear and how to place flute on left but on the top

@DavidDiMuzio 6 лет назад

I would definitely love to see a video on Mid-Side EQ. It's something that I still don't fully grasp. Will check to see if you've already posted on though since you posted this video a few months back. Thanks! ...and I love that you use Ozone to demo this stuff since I use it as well, haha.

@jamesdacus7367 5 лет назад

agreed

@jimmylobe9669 5 лет назад

agreed! great tutorial though.

@foxypotato3094 4 года назад

this helped me understand mid to side EQ a lot better, great tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Ne1S3_FDe8.html

@emme6907 3 года назад

Mid=central signal. Side=L and R signal. Then you EQ! Not complicated to understand how it works. To understand when and why you need it, it's the basic purpose of mixing = making frequency room for instruments/sounds so they sound better. But sometimes you need frequencies that sadly step on each other. Mid side EQ is helpful for this.

@jaydekaytv 3 года назад

@@foxypotato3094 Going to check this - thanks.

@demiladeolaleye8766 6 лет назад

Can you do a tutorial on stereo widening and mid side eq with default/stock Fl Studio plugins please?

@navazmerchant3241 4 года назад

There's a MID SIDE EQ in patcher in YOULEAN X bank, just 2 knobs, works like magic

@theoptiml 4 года назад

Alex Minner what’s with the negative vibe.

@TheCampbell254bme 4 года назад

Alex Minner damn dude why act like that? I hate reading stuff like this. Seriously should be an IQ test before using the internet.

@artissonbeats3057 4 года назад

@@navazmerchant3241 wht r u talking about....2 different things at once

@nyukechen 3 года назад

@@navazmerchant3241 wow thank you so much helped my sounds sound way better

@Kyroshie 6 лет назад

2:04 only if track is mono i think.

@inthemix 6 лет назад

Kyroshie Yes absolutely

@tonesfyre6386 3 года назад

@@inthemix I don't really understand the (if the track is in mono part that he said)

@xXAaron102Xx 3 года назад

@@tonesfyre6386 if you're using the plug in on a stereo track you will be able to use the width without clicking stereoize since it's already stereo

@tonesfyre6386 3 года назад

@@xXAaron102Xx Thanks a log

@tonesfyre6386 3 года назад

Lot*

@TrollextheTroll 4 года назад

Tip#1: get a better singer and don't add reverb to vocals ever. Tip#2 record everything in mono, double it and then seperate each channel to left and right. Been working in industry for over 20 years now. Too many people think they can sing but they really can't.

@izvarzone 4 года назад

phil collins music, have reverb and delay

@MicroDotTV 6 лет назад

nice video, vocals sound much better without all that reverb :)

@inthemix 6 лет назад

Evolve- The Performing Arts The dry vocals already had a lot of processing on them, compression and EQ etc so they sound quite good without. I think in the track the reverb helps it feel a bit more spacious

@denvy21 6 лет назад

Reverb sound awesome esp intro ...reverb gives more feel to it,so its appropriate i guess.👍

@GD-kx7dh 6 лет назад

it's too short of a clip to judge really, you have to listen intensely to the entire track before deciding anything. maybe that long decay will work wonderfully in the bigger picture.

@zekefaison7936 6 лет назад

The reverb adds all the depth to the song

@hlokomani 6 лет назад

It's beautiful what do you mean

@gergelygal2749 5 лет назад

"...in tutorials people leave this off,they start pushing the bands up saying they can hear stereo widthening" you made my day man xddd anyway, thanks for the help for stereo widthening ! (y)

@krawbob8790 5 лет назад

this made me laugh so much

@josephjohnchombo5127 4 года назад

People are really dump 😅 be like ooh I hear some stereo width lol

@eugelmusic 3 года назад

Actually plugin works even if u dont touch the button. It acts like a mid\side equalizer. But only if your track has "side" information/recorded in room on stereo mics, etc. And yes, if u use it on a completely dry mono signal, it doesnt work.

@bukamamusic 3 года назад

@@eugelmusic yes and stereoize is just haas delay. U can do all of the things without this plugin

@thecruxified1 6 лет назад

Dude! You're the shit man u start off so humble like your gonna give just a little but you end up giving blessings! 💯 in all vids

@freeform144 5 лет назад

I would love to see a tutorial about stereo separation in more ambient, soundscape type tracks where more reverb, delay, and general spaciousness is used ... .

@crowned-blue 6 лет назад

I listened the stereo seperated one like many times, it really adds the charm the feeling as I call it....stereo widening is always the first thing I look for, even before the loudness thing. I use the same Imager, it works like a miracle, definitely recommended. And thank you 'in the mix'....for introducing the mid side eq technique, one more good piece of knowledge you added in me, as you always do....Thank you....

@TheSecondC2 5 лет назад

POSITIVE ASS COMMENT, GG. I like that

@Groovesalot 4 года назад

Great video! You could also re-voice the chords so they're not so close the melody, even bring it up an octave (which would still be consistent with the genre) that would resolve any frequency issues.

@LukeSly91 Год назад

A little bit of sidechaining can also really help

@o7k4vokb0ksp5n2 4 года назад

Your channel has helped me with so many different elements from understanding Serum, the types of sine waves, saturation, different types of VSTs/effects, mixing etc. (just off the top of my head). Great production quality and it's sincerely made my music sound fuller and better produced. No filler either. You're a real one bro

@saintshadow7484 2 года назад

I love your no filler no fluff exceptional videos... Constantly find myself referring to your Channel very much appreciated.

@RosentwigMusic 6 лет назад

Love your channel! You guys teached me so much throughout the last year!

@megumin4625 2 года назад

+1 Tip: Patcher includes a preset for a MId-Side EQ using Parametric Equalizer 2. You can also use mid-side with stock plugins.

@iguessme 4 года назад

5:15 listen to that when you‘re stoned with headphones

@diegooliveirabenjamin 6 лет назад

This is a great trick! I wanted to know what do you use to capture the sound of your daw and the mic, I'm using screenflow but I can't record the stereo image, only mono!

@inthemix 6 лет назад

Diego Oliveira I am going to make a "how I make RU-vid videos" video very soon but I have tried many methods. Sometimes I use an Edison recorder on the master to record all the audio in FL studio but it kills my computer. Sometimes I use OBS screen recorder but recently I've bought am external Audio recorder (thanks to my Patrons) that I simply plug my microphone into and plug a headphone out from my interface. It records the audio into separate files and then I use OBS to capture my screen. It's never a perfect set up but it gives a good quality for the viewers

@diegooliveirabenjamin 6 лет назад

In The Mix thank you for the answer! Please try Audio Hijack, I demo it last night after my question here and it is just amazing how flexible it is. Keep up the greap work man, love your channel.

@AveryBlueRemix 5 лет назад

You have a keen ear and seem very intelligent. Thank you for this tutorial! It has helped me in my production goals.

@FORCEGOD 5 лет назад

This is an issue for me, I really don’t know how to make my mixes sound wide

@pedrosilvaproductions 4 года назад

A neat trick I like to use, is to make dual tracking and panning out the sounds. However, I'm not sure if it's the way to go, but you can try

@aakarshan4644 4 года назад

@@pedrosilvaproductions double panning kinda works but feels unnatural/muddy in mono.... i feel that mixing is indeed the hardest part.

@SalComposer 4 года назад

@@pedrosilvaproductions A técnica é lógica e faz sentido e é assim só até certo ponto... Até podes fazer isso com Vozes, Guitarras, tudo no espectro acima dos 200Hz e as vezes até em mono pode estar funcional... mas se fazes com graves. Destróis completamente a claridade, tanto para ouvir em stereo, como podes anular completamente os graves em mono. A mim já me aconteceu aqui a uns anos e ficou os graves abafados pouco definidos. Mas pior foi uma vez que fiz uma musica a pressa sobre proteger o rio tejo, e enviei para a net, e um dos grandes impulsionadores do movimento para proteger o rio até me agradeceu ter feito a musica... e depois largos meses mais tarde um dia reparo que a parte de guitarras ritmo melodicas, estão muito baixas, quase nem se ouvem. Na altura abusei da tecnica e esquecime completamente de ver se estava fora de fase. Agora ficou assim, o homem já agradeceu a ter feito, não vou retirar lololol Abraço

@HindiRapGuru 6 лет назад

How can I make mono vocals (main vocals) widen up so that it fits well in the mix? Vocals are autotuned and pitch corrected most of the times and it phases when made into double track and panned. Usually I try to mix double or more takes together but is there any other way? Thank you!

@art1co 4 года назад

"i saw people doing tutorial with the button off telling they can ear the stereo winding" XdXD

@rodriguez.fernando 3 года назад

Thank you for helping me understand stereo separation. Mid-side eq would be a great topic. Also, can you do a tutorial on how to use reverb and/or delay on a voice track, how to set up parameters correctly? I know it has to be on tempo, but I can't seem to make them work in my tracks as far as eq-ing it, how to not make it overcome the mix and other relevant things to watch for.

@stellen996 5 лет назад

plz make a detailed vid on mono compatibility.

@beatbone96 4 года назад

just put it on my mix, everything was louder and really fat, voice fitted better in the mix so thanks bro

@atlas867 6 лет назад

It's super clear! Good song btw and always outstanding tutorials! I've considered taking your advice and sending out to a professional for mastering but I'm eager to learn how to do it myself. I might be able to someday but until then thanks for all the tips and quality tutorials!

@danmgc 6 лет назад

Have you, or could you possibly do a video on using orchestral instruments in electronic music? Orchestral trance is my favorite sub genre, and I'm looking for how to effectively use strings, piano, brass, inside your mix. Thanks for all of your hard work! I've gone from newby in FL to very comfortable in a matter of weeks watching your channel.

@greatestsawes9712 5 лет назад

Those who critisise FL Studio are in desperate need of help. Thanks for the video

@aqtaii 4 года назад

great video

@solitudestudios3370 5 лет назад

You could also do it without a plug in at all. Duplicate the Rhodes channel. Pan one left and one right. Adjust the delay compensation (or move all instances of the sound on the time line over a very small amount). Bus the two channels back together to compress and EQ them together.

@becketthor Год назад

Usually sounds like shit in mono however

@hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад

Does that produce the same result? I was wondering about this

@dorian1112 5 лет назад

Another technique would be do to a compressor on the rhodes with a sidechain input from the vocals. That will cause the rhodes to "duck" when the vocals come in.

@Baz97__ 4 года назад

You're all so full of good ideas. Where the fuck cheap ass garage sale did I get my brain from

@DenisVolga 2 года назад

Second question: StudioOneArtist does not support the outside VTS plugings, is there any pluggin in StudioOne Artist that can give an effect of Ozone Imager2 (widening the sound, phase)?First question: StudioOneArtist, the volume of an acoustic guitar recording through microphone is very low (compared to previously recorded tracks of acoustic guitars with pickups), the knob on interface is at the maximum, tracks out level -12db, the amplitude of the signal wave is low to normal, still the sound is hardly hearable even when i pop up the buss' level to +4db. Why? What can i do?

@TheRealBillidraws 3 года назад

What song is this,that you're mixing?

@ale9507 5 лет назад

YOU HAVE TO TURN ON THE STEREOIZE BUTTON FOR IT TO WORK? WTF? Well I learnt 2 things today...

@Edizonstudio 9 дней назад

Stereoize does make mono signals "stereo"ized"... So if you have instrument with stereo signal in it in that case it's not often smart to use Stereoize function with imager I'm just saying. Many people use it in mastering wrongfully pushing the stereoize on and endup with mono incompatible masters. Some cases it might work tho if we careful with low fq's...

@lordboogeth7862 6 лет назад

Great video as always :) Edit: Almost 100k subs!

@rusrus29 4 года назад

I make a little Drum&bass and this has answered many off my issues!! haha..Thank You again, i'm still grasping better mixing and this function is one that gets neglected..

@SavageSpeaksBEATS 4 года назад

LMAO why wouldn't stereoize be on by default .........

@izvarzone 4 года назад

I don't use it on most sounds

@johnhuldt 3 года назад

For the people asking for more on mid/side eq, check out Dan Worral’s videos for FabFilter. He goes really in debt about it. Great video btw!

@MisterTrayser 2 года назад

I have a question. There is a very good trick to make a guitar stereo by recording the same riff two times and panning the two tracks to left and right. But whats a good practice to archive the same result with vst sample libraries? For example, Strummed Acoustic library for Kontakt. If you make two independent channels of same vst and play same notes on them, they will sound exactly the same as there won't be natural randomness.

@Rishabhmanchal 6 лет назад

Bro please make A Particular video for Mid-Side Equing

@jaedii7287 6 лет назад

Mid side is in general a bad thing.Try to stay away from it.

@Rishabhmanchal 6 лет назад

@@jaedii7287 thanks man :) i appreciate that but i just want to learn that technique for knowledge or maybe i will be able use it properly as well !

@eigojiyouzu 5 лет назад

Rish Definitely look into it yourself. Mid-side is used by most professionals in the industry. You can finds heaps of info regarding the topic on youtube. It’s extremely simple. This “y would you even sub” person didn’t provide any logic

@rahim4411 4 года назад

Im not into this music but this track is wonderful l could keep this on repeat! I would buy that. Great vid. 😃 🙏 🔥 🔥 🔥

@LiMCRiMZ 6 лет назад

Forget that intro you take your time and we'll snuff out the impatient ones looking for a single button to make their songs "fire"

@jeremyformerlyknownastoken8218 4 года назад

SMOOTHIE SOUNDZ why

@dubem6671 6 месяцев назад

I find that using the “stereorize” button on an entire mix can make your song sound thinner and washed out. Its more useful when used on an individual sound that’s in mono, but otherwise using the imager without the stereorize works fine

@tudorgheorghe4532 Месяц назад

Since by widening you kind of loose the pure grain fundamentals for etr piano and loose focus you turn the phase a little same thourds the back lo dub one.The sound should sound slightly like the singer is indeed playing that etr piano 😅!! Please experiment this advice !!!

@Larry21924 7 месяцев назад

This is a true gem. I recently enjoyed a similar book, and it was a true hidden gem. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint

@patricksperspective99 3 года назад

I know we come here for the mixing ( and I appreciate you for all I've learnt from you ❤) but wow the music you make is amazing

@tudorgheorghe4532 Месяц назад

Other tech here is like so : please experiment this advice !!! Same scenario ok!Double the etr piano on one extract the fundamentals and compress it.Vocal and eye lead put them on SC to the main space efx.the bass dubb on far back slightly aside

@Pianistec 4 года назад

1:51 that's rlly embarrassing 😂😂

@tomfresno120 6 лет назад

Could you do a video on where you get sample packs from? There's so many out there on the internet and I have no idea which ones are worth going for! Need your help! Love your videos I've learnt loads from them

@sumitkanadamusic 6 лет назад

bro can you make video that shows how to start mixing, rather than showing mix of your tracks ? I a, very confusing about it. because when i mixed my song it was in stereo but when I took it in mono it was sounding crap.

@OSCOMusic 4 года назад

There is way too much reverb on that vocal. I guess its a taste thing though 🤷‍♂️

@Chris11249 9 месяцев назад

I don't know anything about sound engineering, I just started getting into it. But one thing that really stood out is whatever you did to your vocals in the first part of the video completely changed the entire vibe of the song. All that reverby, airy synthesized effect on the vocals shouldn't need to be done if you want to achieve what you want. Am I correct? I much prefer natural dynamic vocals, surely you can keep that and work around it. Sorry not sure if that makes sense, but I just didn't understand all that change to the vocals in the first place when you ended up steroizing the other tracks. I'd love to hear the "final" version on this YT video, but with the original vocals. Also, I'd love to hear the final final version you released. Great work man! I'm just starting to learn.

@Eric.Abraham 4 года назад

Nice video. I have a question. I'm very new to producing and mixing music. Right now I'm using my PC with no audio interface because I don’t need to record anything. I use StudioOne with ASIO driver. So my question is, Is it ok to mix with ASIO or I need a audio interface? Is there any sound quality difference? I mean If I use an audio interface, then my mixing going to sound better than "direct pc to headphone" output quality?

@trevermakaika4572 3 года назад

Dude....How do you control or lower input volume inside of protools 12HD so that you may run away from distortion....????itried to control it externally from my soundcard i twiked the knob reducing down to zero but when an artist sings really loud the vocal distorts.......help me please

@braddugas7756 5 лет назад

Please do a video on this vocal chain. Very cool ethereal quality to it

@EsoaTuke Год назад

Can you make a video of stereo widening in cubass 10.5 🇸🇧🇸🇧

@shadyelhamy1012 Год назад

I think that would sound perfect if you keep the vocals on mono and use the imager effect for the music only

@newgenerationyoutuber337 5 лет назад

Can you give me a link of a channel just like you but using Ableton Live 10? Your videos are so good that I am a Music Producer now but I am new in Ableton and things are different here so I just want help.

@sixthfloormemories1566 6 лет назад

Great video. I've always kind of ignored MS eq, but it has actually solved some of my mixing problems.

@davemaverick8438 5 лет назад

could this be fixed faster using multiband sidechain, so vocals cut through just crucial frequencies in piano?

@DeadzoneMusic 4 года назад

Yes you can do that, but it won't have exactly the same effect as this

@tudorgheorghe4532 Месяц назад

Michael you should understand that efx reverb is a track itself still I can hear 3 tracks !!!

@TheRav3n 5 лет назад

This instrumental is pretty... I never describe tracks as that but it sounds relaxing...

@ryusbubbles5236 3 года назад

When i'm gonna be famous, i'll be sure to give a big-ass donation to Mike cuz that will make me happy. I'll also be sure to give him a massive shoutout. He's the one who helped m,e become a musician! Love you Michael!

@BlueTransAm83 3 года назад

I’m starting (newbie) just tests after tests. But I only use this on top end. Wide highs, mid norm, low tight… Almost mono. That’s a basic start point.

@DhrubKashya Год назад

Sir please reply i m feeling tired because i couldn't fix-- my vocal sound thin and not at centre what to do plz suggest its request from yours subscriber

@MiracleDee 4 года назад

Thanx. Voxengo Stereo Touch is also a free alternative (and does the job well too)

@marceloribeirosimoes8959 3 года назад

Great video!!! Now I am looking for a good one about MID-SIDE. Why, how, when...

@naughtyducky6325 2 месяца назад

I preferred the mono one, it makes the track sound wider, you get a wider mix when you contrast.

@completelysaneperson2238 5 лет назад

So, should we mix in mono? Using all the stereo spectrum? So many different methods, fuck, which one is correct?

@Hello-pl2qe 5 лет назад

I haven't seen a video you made yet that wasn't clear-cut, straight to the point and didn't help in some way. Thanks

@Itsyunlo Год назад

I'm in a bit of a pickle lol. I want to use the imager on a vocal bus that my lead vocals are routed to, but it is a mono signal and the bus is mono, there is only a stereo variation of this plugin and when i load it up on the mono bus track, the plugin doesnt work properly. there's no spread just a mono line. is there an alternative to this rather than having to turn the vocal bus into a stereo track?

@stevejobs7766 6 лет назад

Yes I want more videos on stereo separation...... But first second MASTERING VIDEO ....

@smiileeymusic 6 лет назад

Why do you have all those sends in the mixer track Called Verse ? Sounds like a helpful trick for a bus channel.

@synthoelectro 3 года назад

So glad to see stuff like this, it's straight, to the point and non pretentious. There is nothing worse than, you suck at mixing and all those other videos these days, just the facts please.

@testdjchannel9582 5 лет назад

totaly wrong! i must leaw the mono alone, an "add" a widening to an nother channel

@billleclair6633 2 года назад

Thank you, I pop in from time to time,. Your tutorial s have been v helpful....

@danicastellano9468 3 года назад

the tutorial is good, but in the descriptio appears Amazon, there are more shops to buy, there are a lot of music shops that should keep living, please think about musicians too,

@braddugas7756 4 года назад

You need to do a tutorial on the vocal sound here! Such a killer vibe.

@benjithefox1278 3 года назад

I feel like sometimes I can't get the guitar tracks to feel like they surround the vocals a bit or more of that vocals and guitar mixed along with each other better.

@alyanmusic 3 года назад

Can someone tell how to make those same audio file appear in two seperate ways in the same track?

@MerlinsMelody 3 года назад

Your tutorial's are awesome. got any advice on which mix/master tools we can invest? I'm using the stockplugins in REAPER for a long time and I am really happy with it but I think it is time for an upgrade. I see there are amazing bundles @ the ozone website. Something you can recommend? Kind greetings from Belgium, keep doing what you are doing cuz it is great and helped so many people.

@SpaceSpice 5 лет назад

Well that's not all things actually you can do with your mono/stereo mix. There is a lot things you can do with mono by using specific types of chorus, fruity delay at 0.6-13ms, psp psp pseudostereo, room reverbs with stereo separation to only side/ phase inverters. On a wide stereo signal sometimes I do -100% to stereo and move phase on 2.1-4.8 ms (Fruity Stereo Enchancer) that gives a space to "some" other layer synths, but for shure I can say, more things you trying to do tricky, less result can be haha, when all mix together is bad ballanced between mid/side in total.

@jellas1316 4 года назад

Hi! What reverb plugin gave you usedfor vocals?

@kiko5972 Год назад

like how the phase issue rises when the stereo width lies out of 45 degree line in ozone imager. can anyone explain like how it works there phase, stereo all that stuff?

@IAmJeevan1 Год назад

Left, right and center mix🎉🎉🎉the effect to work. 🎉🎉mono, stereo🎉😮😮

@erictorres5935 2 года назад

Great video !! Anyway to grab the multi tracks to this song ?

@parable513 4 года назад

For music production - Do you use a extern sound card or like only the audio int that is coming with the motherboarD?

@dpermitpermit2278 4 года назад

Hey bro its D.permit here, hey were do I need to use a midi side eq, I create a group for instruments oh is to make a chain on the master out put Chanel,?