By '96 any race team could have access to the exhaust system. But for the '95 season the Morgan McClure race team had exclusive rights to the system. It was the deal that Larry McClure negotiated with the company that only they could use it.
@@deanladue5367X pipes have been used in Nascar for years before Marlin's car used it. Junior Johnson's cars used it for 1/2 of the races in 1990. Had the same sound as the #4 car here. It's not a big secret. Heck, I have an x pipe laying in front of my shop right now.
@@LT1HILLINGHOE Dean is correct. It is well documented that Larry McClure made a deal with Dr. Gas that he be allowed to run their x-pipe system exclusively for 1 year. That was the deal. After 1995 anyone could run the Dr. Gas system. Maybe there were other x-pipes out there but no one was running them at the time.
Torana and commodore I've seen from the 80's touring car championship here in Aus ran X pipes or cross over pipes , balance pipes. Not so top secret if us boagans have been using it since the 80's.🍻💪🏻🇦🇺💨
@@4fanintexas It's nothing but a name branded x pipe system. It's the same as any other x pipe system that was fabricated by Nascar teams and has been ran on and off for years. It theoretically helps exhaust scavenging by balancing exhaust pulses. Mostly it's just a different sound is all and makes a very minute difference in power. Maybe 3 hp at the most.
I remember that Dr. Jerry Punch recalled that when Marlin began his qualifying laps, literally everyone on pit lane (including Dale Earnhardt) stopped whatever they were doing to watch the 4 car. And also the Morgan McClure team was laughing their heads off, because they had no idea how the X pipe with the boom tubes would sound at max throttle. That 4 car was definitely something else!
Hey there. I live just to the east in Wayne Co. (Yes...a 315er). I heard this car at Daytone when we used to go every year. It almost made your hair stand on end. Too bad the crews nowadays can't exercise a little ingenuity in their cars like the days of old. Today's cars are nothing more than spec cars that are totally identical. It was great having the Kodak colors on a cup car, especially with a shoe like Sterling Marlin. Big improvement over Rick Wilson who I heard through the company grapevine was most difficult to work with.
@@B25gunship I agree. The teams pretty much have kit cars. I wouldn't be surprised if they were mandated to all use the exact same pedals. I wish there was more ingenuity and freedom.
Does Kodak even exist anymore? Somewhere around here I have a Kodak digital camera from the late 90's and that's literally the last I ever heard of them.
It still makes me laugh that the other drivers gave him the nickname "Nigel Marlin" because his car sounded more like an Indy or F1 car. I saw in a different video that the Morgan-McClure guys had no idea the cross-over exhaust would have such a distinct sound until they got to Daytona and put it on the track.
@@georgehenry8422 Yeah everyone was cheating. Just who could be the best cheater and get the best results. I believe Darrell Watrip purposely blew up his engine after crossing the line in an all star race due to cheating. Evernham and Gordon were told not to bring a dominant car back to the track because they were cheating. Jr recently had a car builder on who built a special spoiler for the SS tracks that made the cars a lot better. Smokey Yunick spent his whole life cheating. I think at some SS tracks, teams would make a restrictor plate out cardboard. Would look like metal during the inspection. After running for a while, it'd eat away at the cardboard and give more power.
@@Ka_Gg The cardboard plate may have been a thing briefly in the late 80s, I don't really know and have never heard of that. But it would've been short-lived because sometime in the early 90s, I think it was, Nascar started issuing the plates.
Cool sound - back in the late 70s and early 80s Junior Johnson and some other owners came up with a 180 degree headers mostly for speedways - they REALLY sounded unique - very high pitched - almost sounded like the V-6s the Busch cars ran for several years.
I switched from a bbk h-pipe to a bassani stainless x-pipe with long tubes a long time ago in my 89 mustang LX and the difference in sound was night and day. It was amazing!
I watched her vid, but it was because I knew about the 4 car's x pipe already. I wanted to hear it on a street car. ...then YT algo worked it's magic and now I got to watch the original video of the famous exhaust.
From my understanding from people that told me the exhaust was a cover up to the noise that came sucking more air into the engine. I was involved in NASCAR engine building at the time. It all made sense.
@@jimmyjimmy5398 I doubt it simply because all the cars sounded like this, or similar, the next year. The other teams must've noticed an increase in performance, otherwise why use the x-pipe exhaust? Just my thoughts.
@@jimmyjimmy5398 Dale Earnhardt's Daytona / Talladega car from 1990. He didn't win the 500 cause of the last lap flat BUT he led 155 of 200 laps and at one point in the race had almost a lap on the field by himself, unheard of in a plate race...
Thanks to mark jiles he came up with it and it ran the equivalent of around 5-15 HP faster with it. They always kept it all secret and cover up and guarding it but it went airborne at talladega and someone snapped a picture of the bottom of the car and the next weekend a lot of the top teams had them too. If mark jiles hadve patented it he probably be rich cause after the talladega deal Dr gas made a exact copy and patented it the other x pipes out their are close enough for government but the el cheapo ones from China are closer to the real thing (my dad was on the Kodak team from 96-99)
@@robertj9141 I don’t either I just know that around the time for superspeedway racin they’d all give Mark hell about it lol He still fabricates stuff but he’s about retired he taught his son how to do it and he’s just as good as him. Once I get to that point on my cars I’m gonna go up there and get him to make me the exhaust for em he makes all kinds of stuff and he had or might still have a Camaro that was featured on car craft or hot rod he built around a Laughlin chassis that they used on the race cars cause he used to work for Laughlin too and made the whole thing hisself just like a lot of the race cars too it was a lighter metallic blue color from Virginia obviously lol
@@42BravoFoxtrot yeah they started mass producing them after Mark Jiles made final adjustments to it and proved it worked and they kept it real good and secret until they flipped at talladega
@@leeduke9518 As I understand it, and Mark has confirmed this, the x-pipe was made by Boyd Butler (Dr. Gas). Boyd tried to get various Winston Cup teams to try it out but no one was interested. He called Richard Childress a few times but Richard never returned his calls. Mark Giles saw the Dr. Gas exhaust advertised in the back of a Circle Track magazine and gave Boyd a call. This was in January 1995. Boyd came to the team's shop in Abingdon, Va and brought his x-pipe system with him. The car picked up a 4-hp just by bolting it on. Mark did not design the x-pipe but he fabricated the rest of the exhaust system which is critically important. The headers each have to be a certain length heading into the boom tubes in order to maximize the effect of the x-pipe design. So, while Mark didn't design the x-pipe, he is the one who built the rest of the system which made all the difference.
Stewart Haas has this almost perfected on the Xfinity cars on speedways last few years..... Don't know y Ford is the ones working on it now but I'm glad somebody still uses the similar exhaust setup. Still haven't seen under one of SH's cars to see what's up.
Been racing since I was 16 in 82...and still can't get it that way. These days getting in is more or a controlled fall and getting out is a weeks worth of exercise.
Wow i started watching Nascar in 2000 and until now I thought this Engine sound comes from the restrictor plate Engines because I heard this only in Daytona/Talladega 🤦♂️
No. This car never ran 180 degree headers. It was the x-pipe exhaust in combination with the rest of the exhaust system that made the distinct sound. This has been well-documented.
@@4fanintexas ya Sterling did on the speedways that season, they were trying different stuff out. I don't need documents, I watched him run the car live and they talked about the sound quite often that season. X pipes are on cars all over the place. They control droning, they don't alter the sound that way. 180° headers do. The scavenging is a performance gain with 180° pipes, they are a time consuming pain in the ass to build, that is the big reason they don't get messed with as often. There is no major performance gain with an x pipe. Nothing in those regards has changed even 30 years later. It is what it is
@@plap.Xpipes are not for droning. They're for balancing exhaust pulses and scavenging. Not much different than 180 degree headers (no I'm not making an apples to apples comparison). They are not, and never were for drone although they do help, and they do offer tonal change over any other exhaust without them. Why do I get the feeling you've never used one? What do you consider a major performance gain for a sub $100 modification? I'd say for its price, it can and does offer a major performance gain if it's sized and located correctly.
Tell y'all that in a lot of cases in racing, you have the right engineers & car builders BUT not always the right drivers. You have guys that can steer the car to victory if nothing fails but I am talking about pairing someone like Dale Earnhardt or Jeff Gordon up with that car during that time. All due respect to Sterling Marlin but he was not on their level, I never felt like he was the right guy to drive that car even though he did win 4 of the 8 points races at Daytona & Talladega that the car was entered into. He never won another points paying restrictor plate race after that car was destroyed in 1996....
Today nascar would ban the car and heavily fine everyone who is even remotely associated with the car. They would say that the exhaust is not nascar approved. And the whole car wouldn’t be nascar approved today. If the car gave them a thousandth of a second per lap timing advantage, nascar would throw a fining tantrum.
Marlin won back to back Daytona 500 1994 and 1995 in this car. He was more than capable of the pole they just didn’t want to make it so obvious they were that much faster
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l And took the lead in the '96 500 before the car burned a piston from the motor overheating. From February '95 to July '96 the 4 car was all but unbeatable on the superspeedways.
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l Actually the 1994 winner was a Lumina and different car/chassis altogether. The 1995 winner, featured in this video, was a Monte Carlo. Larry McClure still has both the 1994 and 1995 winners. The 1994 car sounded like all the others. The unique sound (x-pipe exhaust) made it's debut at Daytona in 1995.
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l You mean like all the other teams? Of course. If you weren't trying to get away with everything you could then you were just stupid. I think one of the guests on Dale Jr's podcast said that and he's absolutely right. Larry McClure and Tony Glover have both talked about some (but obviously not all) of the things they did back in the day, but none of them were "big" things. Mainly lots of small things that each helped a little bit. Larry talked about a 5 stage oil pump they ran off the rear gear to scavenge extra oil out of the oil pan. The driver had a ball valve in the car that he could turn to increase the vacuum for a little extra power when needed. The interior of the car was painted flat black in order to "hide things". At one point in the early 1990s when Ernie was driving they even tinted the windows for the same reason. NASCAR eventually made them stop that though. Everyone has their "cheater stuff" that they run in order to get an advantage, or at least they used to. I think Dale Jr said it best on his show when he said, "I don't want a crew chief who's not worried about the car going through inspection. I want my crew chief to be really nervous because he knows there's stuff on there that would never pass." If you weren't bending, or even breaking, the rules then I promise you weren't winning races.