Steve Coogan & Louise Mensch Clash Over Press Regulation On Newsnight [30.10.2011]

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Steve Coogan & Louise Mensch Clash Over Press Regulation On Newsnight [30.10.2011]
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Paul Dacre, the Daily Mail's editor in chief, on Wednesday launched a staunch defence of the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) as he addressed the latest seminar of the Leveson Inquiry, which was set up in the wake of the phone-hacking scandal.
In it Mr Dacre said that over-regulating the press would "put democracy itself in peril".
Comedian Steve Coogan and Louise Mensch MP, a member of the culture select committee, joined Jeremy Paxman to discuss whether he was right, whether press self-regulation works and whether the tabloids are a necessary evil.
Thanks to the BBC
Sunday 30th October 2011

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@TheDustyPanther 11 лет назад

"Notable by it's singularity" what a lovely turn of phrase.

@Rodiraskal 3 года назад

Very simple, very moving

@danielnewton5867 2 года назад

Very inaccurate.

@cardigan3000 2 года назад

@@danielnewton5867 go on - your dying to tell us how great the Mail is

@judyhopps9380 2 года назад

@@cardigan3000 I won't, but I disagree with Steve on standing up for the Guardian. They're equal scum.

@06comment 6 лет назад

Needless to say, he had the last laugh

@legion22bh50 6 лет назад

Lovely stuff

@06comment 6 лет назад

She's a dwad and a doser, a didhead and dalentless shid

@JuanJohn-Raytheon 3 года назад

He was at the height of his Blue Peter fame.

@bonkeydollocks1879 3 года назад

Are they just deaf or deaf offenders?

@liamgoodenough8947 3 года назад

Needles to say, she took hard drugs

@fredbloggs8172 9 лет назад

COOGAN IS BANG ON HERE & EXPRESSED HIS VIEWS CONCISELY KUDOS TO STEVE

@MattJames1958 7 лет назад

Coogan is spot on, all Mensch is doing is having a go at the Guardian and the Independent

@JonnyArtistic 8 лет назад

i totally agree with Steve!!

@epiphany55 8 лет назад

We don't need newspapers any more.

@steve30toon 7 лет назад

Stop getting Bond wrong!!

@GavinHitchens 12 лет назад

I usually think Paxman is great but Steve Coogan was making some great points that he ignored and came across uncommonly biased into the realm of invasive snooping and the woeful publishing of utter rubbish.

@sourcescience 8 лет назад

That would be Louise Mensch, who cares so much about politics that she bottled it and quit.

@sourcescience 7 лет назад

Thomas King She does now. She moved there after the going got tough.

@generationx1906 9 лет назад

Why do people read tabloids?

@perilouspalms2497 Месяц назад

Big tits

@davidb9059 2 года назад

Very good Mr Paxman for letting the debate go it coarse.

@philiphughes4021 7 лет назад

Self-regulation of any sector of society will always be suspect.

@TrippleH655321 12 лет назад

Crash. Bang. Wallop. What a debate.

@pigknickers 9 лет назад

When she says "my facelift" and so admits it.

@jackhg 9 лет назад

Ha I heard that

@Mart-Bro 7 лет назад

pigknickers It doesnt matter.

@MrNcnc1 6 лет назад

So what? Is it of anyone else's concern?

@illeatthat 3 года назад

It's a NEWSPAPER, not a gossip column.

@franjoz.tomicic8886 7 лет назад

Yes! It's an extender.

@RoflocalypseNow 11 лет назад

You need to research "free man on the land" and also the consent of the governed. Also research Legalese and the duality of words used in law. When you're asked if you "understand", you're actually being asked to give consent, not if you can comprehend that which is put to you. Understand = stand under. Thus giving them rights over you ie. the consent of the governed. The only Law is Common Law. Don't take my word for it though, research it for yourself.

@Falco45able 6 лет назад

Steve coogan declared it wasn’t about money he would give any compensation he was awarded due to the phone hacking to a charity, did he?

@Carlos_500 8 лет назад

Why is Alan Partridge talking funny

@SnoopyChicken 12 лет назад

"Back of the net!"

@jayrox40 3 года назад

This is great banter. It really is.

@blackmichael75 12 лет назад

There may not be a legal definition, but there's a common sense definition which we all know. If you caught me looking through your bedroom window, we would both know I had breached your privacy, and exactly what that means. I have no sympathy or interest in celebrity's lives. But when the press things like hacking into a murdered girl's phone and bribing policemen, they have broken the law and they need regulated.

@Rentaghost76 12 лет назад

Socialism was the 20th century's greatest tragedy, and could well end up being this century's as well. Although its evangelists promised equality, prosperity and security, it was only responsible for misery, poverty, and absolutely 100% of the time ended up in tyranny. Actually, it is interesting to note that socialism in the 20th century did achieve a form of equality after all, but only in the form that all people in socialist countries were equal: in their misery and poverty.

@JermainePlaces 11 лет назад

Immediately I thought of Alan Partridge vs the Farmer. "You feed beefburgers to swans"

@blackmichael75 12 лет назад

If you read a book like the Ragged Trousered Philanthropist you can see what conditions were like before there was a welfare system in this country. Those charitable organisations were very ineffectual, and usually went in for hypocritical Christian piety and hymn-singing. They couldn't cope with the sheer volume of poverty. The government *does* use its monopoly on force to help people make profits. We all know that the law is different for the rich.

@WalterLiddy 12 лет назад

Yeah don't judge what she's saying - judge her.

@superman00001 2 года назад

"I thought you were a woman... I've a good mind to knock your block off."

@vapourmile 11 лет назад

It was a broadsheet for most of its life.

@OkOk-sh4oq 3 года назад

It’s not a free press if it’s only the things you like

@sundersart 12 лет назад

She wanted restrictions on free speech online because someone made fun of her on her twitter and she got upset.

@Randomcorpse 7 лет назад

Funny they didn't hack any phones to find out who murdered Sean Hoare who mysteriously died on his front door step after blowing the whistle on the whole phone hacking scandal.

@Randomcorpse 3 года назад

@Jason Smith Look it up. There's a thing called the internet. You're already on it. You're half way there. When a man crosses a billionaire, then turns up dead on his own doorstep after turning a funny colour, and the police describe it as "unexplained but not suspicious", something questionable has happened. An unexplained death is, after all, the very definition of suspicious.

@obsoleteworlds 2 года назад

WHO INVENTED THE SKIP?

@mikeryan6637 11 лет назад

Sorry about that. I'll change. I promise.

@AeolisticFury 11 лет назад

Louise Mensch is seriously full of herself.

@gudster 12 лет назад

Don't worry...I wasn't blaming you personally for historic crimes of the 20thC (i did separate those two posts, but maybe it wasn't clear enough), but for any current/future sufferings that emerge from your collectivist endorsement.

@CheDonJohn 12 лет назад

Just to add that, in fairness, she seems pretty reasonable in this video; she makes some good and bad points but is, by and large, fairly amicable and easy to listen to. But her performance on HIGNFY (or most other programmes I've seen her), on the other hand...not so pleasant.

@angels77100 12 лет назад

I've gotta admire Paxman for allowing both guests to talk (even over each other) without interrupting them every 5 seconds. Bill O'Reilly should be taking notes from Paxman who does his job in a very knowledgeable professional manner.

@vapourmile 11 лет назад

That's weird. I normally hate Steve Coogan for being a boring self-interested, ego-maniac whose comedy usually hinges on embarassing, boring, self-interested, egomaniacal characters. Here he actually holds himself in an intelligent, mature and articulate manner. It's a good job to defend yourself against snarling media pundit like Paxman's without falling into a tiresome fight over who's right.

@MrMyDogSkip 12 лет назад

What are you talking about!? Coogan's down to earth points are so accurate, whereas undoubtedly she (as an MP) dances arounded everything as if she cares about her reputation. Given her occupation her points a dull and general and she emmits about as much charisma as Muhammad Ali, post Parkinsons.

@groundbase1 11 лет назад

Well Debated Mr Coogan, Bro T Campbell would have been proud of You!

@nick2150 12 лет назад

Out of interest what situation would you say we are in currently? I dont object to the idea of capitalism or the idea of a free market but it seem unsustainable to me. Would you define America as being in a real example of free market capitalism? Genuinely, im interested.

@AntiFascist2011 11 лет назад

Its what the public want! (Don't ask me why.....)

@desslattery3457 2 года назад

And thiis was filmed on location in Norwich

@kalbert9367 12 лет назад

You would though, wouldn't you.

@googleisshittoss 6 лет назад

I actually prefer Partridge to Coogan..which is worrying

@lukeycc67 8 лет назад

I've accidentally dismantled my Corby trouser press.

@johnnyboy18778 7 лет назад

will it show up on the bill ok bye

@Studeb 11 лет назад

Steve Coogan is a very intelligent man with great integrity, I like him even more after this appearance.

@Etcher 7 лет назад

Coogan is a good guy. He's a celeb, he's Partridge, he's well known and he's wealthy. But he is a good guy who speaks his mind and thankfully that tends to be sensical and fair.

@samx3517 7 лет назад

He's been a vocal supporter of Labour for years

@MegaHariboboy 7 лет назад

You honestly think someone who speaks their mind is Tory? All they ever do is speak for money and their own personal gain...

@jonskinner5664 3 года назад

@@MegaHariboboy One of the reasons all this started was because they were reporting on him in brothels, strip clubs etc, he only wants this so he can carry on with his degeneracy.

@garethgill1 3 года назад

Totally agree. What’s right is right and Coogan seems to have his head screwed on.

@AntSimpson 2 года назад

@@jonskinner5664 why should people not have a right to privacy just because they are in the public eye? Princess Diana was hounded by paps and shitty press for years. The journos did not care for her mental health or that of her children and look what happened..

@BenGarman 12 лет назад

"If the tabloid press can only exist by reporting garbage, then that's not a good enough reason for them to exist!" - absolutely spot on.

@Gostraughan 10 лет назад

Shouldn't we maybe work on education so that "Who's shagging who" wouldn't be what sells newspapers? Tabloids should be banned...

@rudymatheson1415 3 года назад

You probably won’t see this - but great idea.

@sb_dunk 3 года назад

@@rudymatheson1415 I saw it and that's all that matters

@rabbitss11 10 лет назад

it's come to something when we rely on comedians to express views we can engage with, Steve Coogan, Ricky Jervais and even Russell Brand have more to say about the modern condition than our politicians

@MrBarker73 11 лет назад

Good lad Steve. Every now and again, we get a celeb who's got backbone. Keep it up.

@stevenbones9906 9 лет назад

how much did Murdoch pay mensch for her verdict on the committee.

@alexbowman7582 3 года назад

The red tops supporting the Tories.

@monkeytennis8861 2 года назад

She's a Tory

@Dilkingt0nne 2 года назад

@@alexbowman7582 mirror never did tbf

@isaac.g7421 7 лет назад

Can paxman stop being a broken record for once? How many times did he have to accuse Coogan of not wanting a free press when he repeatedly said thats not what he wanted he just wanted proper regulation in terms of illegal or intrusive activity

@SuperAllanjames 9 лет назад

Dloes Louise Mensch really thing people are more likely to buy the Guardian if there's a story about her in it?

@outsiders4951 8 лет назад

Coogan always looks like he is about to burst out laughing, even when discussing serious topics lol.

@omnivorousbiped2447 7 лет назад

Holy hell, whatever Paxman gets paid is too much.

@VeggieGamer 10 лет назад

I just can't stop thinking Partridge :(

@bulletproofblouse 6 лет назад

Should have brought Sidekick Simon on, get a few zingers in on Louise Mensch.

@Judewilkinsonjfk 6 лет назад

Paxman sometimes goes a bit hard on the goodies.

@Ch4osW4rrior 11 лет назад

I'm with Coogan.

@brabbit3389 3 года назад

He’s so right , if they need to print bullshit to sell to exist then they shouldn’t exist

@OkOk-sh4oq 3 года назад

Facist

@senor250 10 лет назад

I'm not reading the Metro, I'm not reading the Metro

@rodden1953 3 года назад

Its been rebadged you fool

@user-fv7jb1bd3s 3 года назад

Hahahaha amazing

@caganozturk1 3 года назад

That is first class

@user-ej5mr9th1i 3 года назад

Nicely done

@MikeHendryDev 13 лет назад

This was a very well reasoned debate on both sides. I have to say I do agree with Steve Coogan on this one.

@lyndseykramer 8 лет назад

Channel 5, The Mail, boring, boring, boring. Made-up lies and phone tapping.

@MrGraphis 12 лет назад

Thank god Ubermensch left politics: one scary, self-serving woman!

@stevebailey5591 10 лет назад

Every industry and walk of life is subject to some form of regulation and accountability. I don't understand why anyone argues that the press should be exempt from this universal rule. I think it's ridiculous that the likes of Brookes and Dacre can claim, with a straight face, that they're somehow the defenders of my freedom - when they'd think nothing about ignoring my rights and ruining my life if it served their interests to do so.

@youandwhosearmy6339 9 лет назад

OK she's Tory and talks crap, but she's way sexier than Courtney Love.

@Harvester236 9 лет назад

youandwhosearmy? Her vile personality ruins it though.

@youandwhosearmy6339 9 лет назад

***** yeah, you are right.

@Sou1defiler 8 лет назад

Think her personality is bad? Should see her "poetry"

@StraitKnopfler 11 лет назад

Ian Hislop eloquently and succinctly outlines the dangers of press regulation in the first video result if you search for him on here. Coogan's defence of the McCanns and Dowlers is moot because phone hacking IS already illegal. Policing the actions of the press is what's important, not what they publish. Harsher sentences for breaking the law are required; what the press publishes will inherently be acceptable if their actions are moral and legal, so target the latter not the former.

@tedbullock1479 11 лет назад

Almost felt like Partridge was in the room when he said ''who's shagging who''

@steveroberts9453 7 лет назад

Needless to say , Coogan had the last laugh.

@NickForest999 Год назад

…and on that bombshell

@starfishli76 9 лет назад

Newspapers should report on topics that are of interest for the public!!! Why don't they report of the ongoing corruption within governments? Why do readers have to be swamped with silly, trivial stories about private affairs of some celebrities instead? This is dumbing down mass manipulation, and I don't buy into it!

@bradyj1984 11 лет назад

@Jackdaw1802 Coogan is from Manchester. Pretty fucking far beyond the confines of the M25.

@TobeUK 12 лет назад

go on Coogan :)

@jamesknox64 7 лет назад

Bill oddie never leaves a message and doesn't have voicemail. he's never had to worry about hacking.

@igiorni1 12 лет назад

Coogan the smartest gut in the room...

@youcantno3963 10 лет назад

"They can't stand the fact that the Daily Mail is popular. He quotes all the bad things it does, but doesn't recognise any of the good that it does - it's actually the most successful campaigner of all the press." 'theonlylampshade' Staggering ineptitude and grasp of the subject matter. You seem fixated on Coogan for some reason, jealousy perhaps? I'd like to see you explain your statement to the parents of Milly Dowler.

@watzizname 12 лет назад

Nice one Mr Coogan :)

@ZuluRomeo 12 лет назад

Louise Mensch feeds beefburgers to swans.

@bezerkoid 12 лет назад

Steve Coogan= in the right

@frogstamper 12 лет назад

A truly superb critique of the awful Daily Heil, well said Steve.....why on earth do people buy this shit-sheet?

@T800System 12 лет назад

Coogan is spot on about the mail. It's toilet paper.

@dsilvester70 12 лет назад

Go Steve

@cmomofilm 8 лет назад

Why is Louise Mensch so concerned about the tabloids sales numbers, oh yeah, everyone knows why. Notice she had nothing to say about the "fluff" pieces about her alleged cosmetic surgery. No such thing as bad press, especially if your career depends on it. lol.

@TheGroucho66 8 лет назад

+cmomofilm I wasn't sure whether Coogan was the promoting the idea that tabloids reporting on "fluff" should be actively prevented from doing those stories OR that he'd prefer it if they didn't. I only agree with the latter. Like with racism. I hate racists however they have the right to hold racist views. I don't wish to make it illegal to hold racist views however, in an ideal world, I wish they didn't.

@geekymarianne 12 лет назад

Behold, two people debating a matter from two different, genuinely held viewpoints, without being nasty to each other or implying that the other is in league with the devil.

@saxongreen78 11 лет назад

I guess you could call this a pleasant "clash" - both sides had their say without it descending into the gutter...and Steve - you're dead right!

@darklordcthulhu7231 8 лет назад

If Lou-Bag ever said something adult i'd rejoin the church. Because then i would believe in miracles.

@takeahint123 12 лет назад

Self regulation, i've always loved the term. i'l regulate myself into paying my tax's an NI contributions. And if i go into HMV steal a load of bluerays an money out the till. Don't worry i'l self regulate an put myself on the naughty step for the day.

@RevStaplehurst 12 лет назад

As much as I find Coogan to be Alan Partridge without the wit, I agree with him on this one

@chrischapman7405 11 лет назад

Coogan knocks it out of the park once again!

@verysurvival 12 лет назад

Which one is Steve Coogan?

@guinnessharvey4476 3 года назад

“I’m not driving a mini metro!”

@simonrae3048 2 года назад

He's basically saying that builders, on site, on a freezing cold, shitty winter's morning........should read the Guardian or the Times. I've worked on sites....and you don't want to read the broadsheets....trust me....you'd walk off site.......and want to work in an office.......where it's was warm........mmmmmm

@Dilkingt0nne 2 года назад

Oooooo it’s a bad paper

@77jamess 2 года назад

First award is for best CHRIST! Sorry, not Christ..

@MyFantazmagazzle 12 лет назад

So you're saying people who have literally nothing to do with the slaughter of millions, myself for example, should somehow feel responsible? Simply because we believe a supposedly similar thing - although I can say now that I despise all forms of dictatorship, including the 'left wing' ones of Stalin and Mao etc. And I take it you're a believer in free market economics? Surely by your logic then, you should feel responsible for the starvation, poverty, suffering and death of millions?

@MyFantazmagazzle 12 лет назад

No, that's what American media has formed it into. And I say that as an Englishman. It's only shorthand for what you said by people who don't actually know. The idea of small government, limited state in terms of welfare, and deregulation of a market economy are actually very liberal beliefs. If you are going to critique the left, please be more precise. And left wing beliefs are quite good. Equality and rights for women and all races, child labour laws, minimum wage, healthcare for the poor etc

@digger65uk 12 лет назад

Mr Dog I feel I have overstepped the mark and I feel I have insulted your intelligence. Something that I did not want to do. Coogan got the joke as the final song in the show was calling him a c**t. We had banter and it was highly enjoyable. I love women even if that does sound childish. I am so sorry for the things I've said to you. I hope in time you will forgive me and we can both move on. What do you say?

@KaitainCPS 11 лет назад

I'm highly suspicious of Mensch's politics, but I think she has the more reasonable position here. Is it a price worth paying if we have ten celebrity scandals for every bona fide expose of corruption? I would say that it is, and a scandal doesn't have to involve bugging people's phones or rooting through their garbage.

@grimTales1 12 лет назад

Louise is quite good looking isnt she? Steve Coogan is right, and makes good, eloquent points in his argument - the scandal was only exposed because terrible things happened to innocent people like Milly. That shouldnt have been the case and innocent people shouldnt have been caught in it, their lives were ruined.

@JP-nb7tm 2 года назад

The expression “gutter press” didn’t come about by accident. It perfectly describes the NOTW etc.

@MyFantazmagazzle 12 лет назад

That makes no sense. You complain he's a liberal, yet you say he wants an authoritarian state? The two are completely opposite. Also, liberalism is the ideology that is based on individual freedom and, pretty obviously, liberty.

@HeartOfTheBeat 12 лет назад

Do like Coogan. Not really a clash though. Was more like a flirt recorded by the BBC. Paxman is so useless, why does he and similar others like Clarkeson get paid for this shit. Bringback Fred Dibnah.