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Stick Welding Cast Iron Repair with 6013 

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Stick Welding Cast Iron Repair with 6013 Repairing broken cast iron using 6013 welding electrodes. For this repair I discuss joint preparation then after the joint is fit up nicely, I tack the joint together with 6013. I also discuss welder settings and talk about which polarity I chose, and why. This repair is going to include a preheat and a controlled cool down once the repair is made. Then we test the repair to see just how much weight it will hold until it fails. See the test results for yourself and see how this repair compares to some of the other repairs we have done within this cast iron repair series.
I try not to trigger anyone, but it seems unavoidable whenever I repair cast iron with anything other than conventional repair methods. We all know in the trades that oxy fuel brazing or TIG brazing with preheat and controlled cool down are some of the best and tried and true methods for repairing broken cast iron, but what about the guy that doesn't have an oxy / fuel rig or tig rig? Is he out of luck? Some would say YES. I think differently.
Rather than just accept failure and not try, I prefer to experiment and see if it can be done. I've had varying success repairing broken cast iron using non traditional processes and filler metals. Either it can or it cant be repaired, and if it can, how much weight will it hold until it fails again? Hopefully you find these repair videos entertaining and educational and consider these experiments just another tool in your welders toolbox to get the job done.
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@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
MORE WELDING AND FABRICATION VIDEOS HERE:ru-vid.com/group/PLfbf78fMz9Vol0uX2-GNc6mLi75zpqb5f LEARN HOW TO WELD VIDEOS HERE:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ADa1I319GJ0.html
@mrjodoe
@mrjodoe 4 года назад
hey brandon, you may test welding the cast iron pan with nickle based filler? eg 2.4806 or similar
@mrjodoe
@mrjodoe 4 года назад
also 1.4337 aka 312 would be interesting on cast iron...
@TheDuckofDoom.
@TheDuckofDoom. Месяц назад
If you can find some cast iron filler and flux (atorch or TIG, or even a crude homemade fluxed electrode) I'd be interested to see how well like on like cast filler might do, considering welding is basically just micro casting. Keeping in mind there are several types of cast iron: basic gray lowest melting point, white (aka "chilled", same ingredients as gray but they put chilling plates in the mold to make an extra-hard wear-resistant surface), nodular/ductile (has alloying elements to change the grain shape from flake to spherical), and malleable (An expensive special heat treatment of white, largely replaced by easier/faster to cast "nodular" back around WW2)
@CarTechTexas
@CarTechTexas 4 года назад
I'm more impressed with the strength of that bucket!
@jimallen9442
@jimallen9442 7 месяцев назад
Would never have believed it was possible to weld cast iron with 6013, the times this could have been useful for me are many. Thanks for that.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 6 месяцев назад
Glad I could help
@geraldstarr9950
@geraldstarr9950 4 года назад
That’s a lot stronger than I thought it would be, thanks for the informative video sir. I can’t afford brazing gear or being triggered so I find this very helpful.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks man!
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 11 месяцев назад
I'm a well retired electrical engineer who is always creating things ( lightweight welding stuff, old car patches etc ) and your welding tech is great. I learn so much from your video's. Thanks a lot, Colin UK 🇬🇧.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 11 месяцев назад
Thank you Colin I appreciate it!
@davidtillotson7254
@davidtillotson7254 3 года назад
Just got myself a andeli mig 160 welder never welded anything before been watching your RU-vid videos and found them very helpful keep up the good work.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks David I appreciate your support and congratulations!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Viewer madcap magician correctly guessed the weight after watching some of the other episodes. If you havent seen the cast iron welding series, be sure to check out the link in the description.
@jacemusgrove3073
@jacemusgrove3073 5 лет назад
Good job! I enjoy these types of videos. Answers curiosity questions! Thanks!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Jace! I'm glad you enjoy these videos too...I enjoy them also. The results often surprise me!
@Girrthedogxxx
@Girrthedogxxx 4 года назад
Hey bud, really wanted to say thank you, have been welding Cast Iron awhile now and the sand is gospel, makes all the difference, i use 99Ni rods either 3/32 or 1/8 depending on the material. Keep up the great videos.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words! 🙏😁
@SpaceBass
@SpaceBass 3 года назад
Simple,effective instruction...What the others lack. Spot on Dude..
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks man i appreciate it!
@Smcquoid12345
@Smcquoid12345 3 года назад
Fantastic. I now have the confidence to fix cast iron pieces of equipment. Great job.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks Jack! Glad I could help!
@bruced1429
@bruced1429 5 лет назад
Well it will certainly hold your bacon and eggs, But I still will use cast 80 or 90 rods for cast iron even thought 6013 and 7018 will work and will weld both sides if I can. Brandon, again a good video and you showed us that 6013 is a very good all purpose rod, always keep some on hand.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Bruce D I appreciate your comment and support! Cheers buddy!
@oldsteamguy
@oldsteamguy 3 года назад
videos that include a test of the results are the best. thanks for posting
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
@oldsteamguy Thank you!
@colinevans7134
@colinevans7134 Год назад
What a good job, it's a shame people comments on how your doing this, your doing the job and not them. Top job
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Thanks Colin. I don't pay attention to the negative comments. My experience surpasses their opinions
@AmosMosesJr
@AmosMosesJr 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. Sometimes you don't need a strong weld and this sure looks easy, especially if welding outside in non ideal conditions.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Exactly! Thank you 😁
@jamescairney.
@jamescairney. 5 лет назад
Now that surprised me! Glad you gave it a bash. My grate should hold up fine. Cracking job.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks James! I was not expecting those results. I'll be honest, I didnt expect it to work in the first place. The results proved me wrong! Thanks buddy and good luck on your repair
@jamescairney.
@jamescairney. 5 лет назад
@@BrandonLund thanks, you to. I'm making a firepit/burner out of a propane tank next. Second one I've done. Whole new design. I'll keep watching so I can pinch your ideas & tips.
@MichaelSmith-dg3kr
@MichaelSmith-dg3kr Год назад
I never knew you could weld cast iron with standard rods, or wire. I always thought it was braising, or nothing. And the heat is the most important. Thank you.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Glad to help Michael. Heat really is the key. MIG Silicon Bronze is by far the best method I've tested. I have a video on that also. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Cm3_uv-PhPM.html
@maritimefreak9241
@maritimefreak9241 2 года назад
Very good and easy to understand demo of cast iron repair. I look forward to one more such experiment using E 7016 iron powder type electrode. This is widely used in India for non machinable cast iron repair and maintenance welding. Thanks for wonderful video.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
@maritimefreak I'm going to have to give that a try! Thank you for the suggestion! 🙏
@GraphicManInnovations
@GraphicManInnovations 6 месяцев назад
Exactly what i wanted to see, thank you
@sgribb02
@sgribb02 4 года назад
first time viewer & very impressed with your work at the same time fun to watch. Thanks for sharing and I am a new sub!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks buddy! I appreciate the sub and your support! I've been working on rebuild projects lately but starting this friday we are back in full swing with welding and fabrication videos.
@electricamir248
@electricamir248 Год назад
Excellent. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
My pleasure!
@ajsironworks3937
@ajsironworks3937 5 лет назад
Man you’re fun to watch and a good welder. Good job
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks buddy! I appreciate your support!
@endurofan9854
@endurofan9854 5 лет назад
yeah and he even make it look easy to do,,, now i have an idea how to weld cast... thanks bro
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks man! I appreciate your kind words!
@gailpengelly8581
@gailpengelly8581 3 года назад
That’s genius, great instructions, THANK YOU DUDE. stay stay and well.x
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks Gail! Same to you! :)
@jerrodjohn2274
@jerrodjohn2274 4 года назад
Great video! very indepth! and informative! That is so helpful! Thank you's
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks Jerrod and thanks for watching!
@RanjitSingh-dl1wi
@RanjitSingh-dl1wi 5 лет назад
Nice information about cast iron 👌👏
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Anytime! Thanks for your support and comment!
@DaDaDo661
@DaDaDo661 5 лет назад
Great job, screw the haters. This impressed me
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Prestia2011. I appreciate your support!
@podjo2k9
@podjo2k9 3 года назад
Grate job
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks!
@555propow
@555propow 2 года назад
thanks Brandon, lots of great info
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Thanks! @555propow
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 5 лет назад
Great video brandon
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks brother!
@manojjohnvarghese6602
@manojjohnvarghese6602 5 лет назад
Good attempt... Thank you... Informative
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate your support!
@jayaraguilar23
@jayaraguilar23 Месяц назад
Thankyou for your video's. Now i know why my electrode is 6013 and @ 150amp 55 Arc 60 Heat start even more unstable welding. Im new and beginner and thankyou for your tips! In our country mostly uses 6013 I'm from Philippines thankyousomuch! Much videos of yours to watch 🙂🙂
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@Viureify
@Viureify 3 года назад
Awesome presentation.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thank you Pascual!
@brianfreeman3676
@brianfreeman3676 2 года назад
That's a pretty cool video. Very interesting.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Thanks!
@rannienapay
@rannienapay 5 лет назад
Tnx 4 the vedio i learn a lot.keep up the good work.God bls.have a nice day sir.😉😉😉😉
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thank you and god bless to you!
@chrisplayz253
@chrisplayz253 5 лет назад
Fair play didn't expect that 👍
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks man! Thanks for your support and comment!
@7018dreams
@7018dreams 8 месяцев назад
Great video! I will try this on my next repair
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 8 месяцев назад
Good luck!
@markjacobs6098
@markjacobs6098 2 года назад
Enjoyed the video. I have an antique scale where a roughly 1" round cast iron bar was broken in the middle and so the two parts need to be joined that are weight bearing. I wanted to see if you had any suggestions.
@ItsMeScareCro
@ItsMeScareCro Год назад
Good info, cool video!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Thanks!
@MrBilld75
@MrBilld75 2 года назад
Interesting result! I remember when they sent off our welds to a lab in college, for gas welding of cracked sawmill saws. That's what I worked on and was, a Sawfiler. And their's would pound on it simulating the rolling on huge tensioned wheels would do to them in a sawmill thousands of times until they would crack again. This is so much simpler and I think it's a totally legit, scientific test. Unlike my more complex example, your pan only does two things cooks and carries. And all we're interested in is the carry part. I doubt anyone will be carting around anywhere near 100lbs in that little pan, lol,=great repair! Hugely successful in fact and obviously, there is zero need to weld the other side, that's cool. I would just for aesthetics and just fill gaps and finish it up flat and clean, so I could get a nice seasoning on the pan afterwards. Our welds were forged while hot and on thin metal, maybe 3mm thick, so they would never need welding from both sides and if anything, it would weaken the weld once finished on the first side. Everything gets smooshed together anyway, by pounding it immediately afterward and then reheated over the whole crack, to red hot and forged again. If you peened it as quickly as possible while the weld is still hot/soft, you could do similar and likely did, to some small extent and pushed some metal into the crack, strengthening it. Weld with one hand, have hammer in other, while still hot?
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Thats pretty awesome! I love hearing stories like this. I've heard of forging cast but never done it but I have always been interested in the process though! @Bill Does Stuff
@DarkMagician8880
@DarkMagician8880 5 лет назад
Love the videos.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thank you very much! There will many more
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 3 года назад
Hi Brandon, I thought you did a very good job of presenting a fair test of the 6013 rods, which is one of the most common rods available in Australia. I think that you might have something of an advantage given that you are trying to repair a modern item where the casting mix has been more tightly controlled. But that is what you want in conducting an experiment, to control the number of variables in each round of the experiment. I work at a private school in Melbourne Australia as a Carpenter who also does welding repairs. Given the school is over 160 years old there are cast iron components in all sorts of places. A lot of it is a very dirty shitty cast that has been in the elements for the better part of a century or more. Some stuff you just can't save and if it's failure is likely to injure someone then it gets replaced with an in sympathy substitute. So as you can see, I have a interesting relationship with cast iron.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thank you! I agree the cast iron of today is probably more controlled. We will be doing a lot more of these types of videos coming up real soon. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@clevertrevor8727
@clevertrevor8727 3 года назад
Hi There. Thank you for this tutorial you really helped me out. I am restoring some cast Iron gates from 1814 that I have had to basically rebuild. I had never welded cast iron before and was failing miserably until I watched this. The key is not to put to much heat into It other wise the whole thing falls apart. Thank you from across the pond. Eddie. Abbeydale Machine and Tool Co. Ltd Birmingham United Kingdom
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
You are welcome!
@rabbitcivil8382
@rabbitcivil8382 2 года назад
@@BrandonLund what type of rods are u useing are they special cast iron rods or normal
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Just normal rods
@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear
@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear 3 месяца назад
Im currently doing weld repair for someone and im glad im using a nickel chromium filler to tig weld it. I had no idea muggy nickel weld filler was the strongest in the list. My colleague at work told me i should use a nickel chromium because its very strong for cast iron. Glad i made the right decision.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 месяца назад
Another good filler is silicon bronze. It's almost as strong as the original cast and welds like butter.
@pibble3962
@pibble3962 Год назад
Thank you, good information to learn!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@reydelosreyes746
@reydelosreyes746 6 месяцев назад
Thank you sir for shearing knalage of stick welding for cast iron using 6013 welding rod...
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 6 месяцев назад
You bet!
@johnnyroura6054
@johnnyroura6054 3 года назад
Wow! Thanks I've learn much.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Your welcome! 👍
@ricosalditos4570
@ricosalditos4570 5 лет назад
Great job. My Idol 👍👍
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Rico! I appreciate your support!
@Reisterdale1
@Reisterdale1 Год назад
Thank You for your great information.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the SUB! I consider that an honor. Thank you! 🙏
@billstonesmith9231
@billstonesmith9231 4 года назад
Great video and quite surprising! Would love to see you braze that pan with some straight copper res. housing wire using brazing flux if needed. Brandon L - you're the best!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks bill! That's an interesting filler metal. It has me curious....hmmmm?
@phiksit
@phiksit 4 года назад
I was tig welding some steel one time and couldn't figure why it was taking so much heat to melt the rod. Turns out it was a piece of copper wire I had mistaken for tig rod. It's fused with the steel though. I'm curious what the breaking point of brazed joint would be what rod composition works best.
@bastosreviewer5192
@bastosreviewer5192 4 года назад
Wow, plastic tub was stronger than the weld! Great experiment!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks man! 👍
@JohnDoe-vq8bg
@JohnDoe-vq8bg 5 лет назад
No one can do wrong with E6013! It's Gods divine rod! A gift for welders worldwide! Best wishes and regards sir!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks John! Best wishes to you sir!
@daniele3275
@daniele3275 5 лет назад
I hate 6013 ,I really can't weld with them I use 7018 or stainless rods or even 6010
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
@@daniele3275 next time you get some 6013, try a real steep drag angle. I think you will see a big difference.
@massa-blasta
@massa-blasta 5 лет назад
@@daniele3275 you have to use a steep drag angle and turn up the arc force enough to push the slag back.
@daniele3275
@daniele3275 5 лет назад
@@massa-blasta arc force? My welder have not it Just a simple inverter ,no antistick,no arc force,no hot start ... 7018 works well I can make good looking and strong welds with them 6013 are backward to use for me
@askledhead
@askledhead 2 года назад
Great informative vid, ✌
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
@Sofa King thanks man! 😊
@michaelstirling7026
@michaelstirling7026 Год назад
Great, fun content.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Thanks man!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 5 лет назад
Good stuff Sir
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Paul!
@petergrassel3973
@petergrassel3973 5 лет назад
Great job
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Peter!
@michaelwells5617
@michaelwells5617 2 года назад
The best way ive found is pretty much the way you did it. Just let the piece cool completely between welds. I welded an exhaust manifold once with success that way
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Cast iron repair is time consuming but if you take your time as you found out, usually the results are pretty good @michael wells
@antonioaparicio2316
@antonioaparicio2316 2 месяца назад
Hi Brandon, with that weight you could brake a new pan!! Great work. Blessings.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 месяца назад
Thanks and God Bless!
@lodwexinvestments2394
@lodwexinvestments2394 3 года назад
Waal great work quite impressing
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks!
@hubertrobinson8825
@hubertrobinson8825 Год назад
Great I've never thought of welding cast iron with 6013 I guess in a pinch it can be done I've used 7018 or regular cast iron rods that holds pretty good everyday you can learn something new
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Thanks man! You don't know until you try :)
@rolandrepairvlog4420
@rolandrepairvlog4420 2 года назад
Good job Sir 👍
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Thanks! 😁 @Roland Repair Vlog
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 3 года назад
You earnt yourself a subscriber.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@gf-qx8mv
@gf-qx8mv 3 года назад
Very good video & very impressive "strength test" demonstration. First of all, I'm not a professional welder, but I've had the opportunity to oxy-acy braze & weld, arc weld, solid Mig & flux core, and Silver solder (HVAC). Our mail box is on a cast iron water pump and a snow plow clipped it in January, busted in several pieces laying in the snow. I waited until the snow melted some & collected the parts & decided I would attempt to glue this mess back together. With a trailer full of generator, Lincoln 210MP, handful of cast iron rods, grinder, and a bucket full of hope, I got started on the repair. The rod was 1/8" but that's what I had (1/16" or 3/32" would have been better for this job), and I got these at a big box store (total of 6 sticks). After grinding, tacked and pre-heating (Propane hand torch), I used 1/2" welds at opposite sides, peened, moved again, repeated until the first part was welded back on the bottom pipe. Moved upwards & used the rods until they were gone, then switched to the flux-core (0.030 dia) because I wasn't done yet. Long story short, I was able to finish back to a reasonable facsimile of what the pump looked like before the snowplow plowed it and the mail box. Nothing I did would pass muster from a professional welder, but my new mail box is affixed to the pump and hasn't fallen over yet. My favorite for repairing cast iron has always been using flux covered Brass rods, but it would have been a little more difficult for me to move my oxy-acy setup. I wanted to try the stick option on the new 210MP, and it worked very well. The flux core Mig worked ok, not nearly as aesthetically pleasing, but the job is done & I can live with it. Your videos are well done and provide insight to me as to what I can do with what I've got to work with. Thank you for your efforts, I certainly enjoy learning from them.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
What a great comment and thank you for sharing. As you pointed out, these videos are to give some insight on what to expect when using a specific process. Sometimes it might not be the prettiest but if it's all we have than at least we know what to expect rather than toss it in the trash.
@gf-qx8mv
@gf-qx8mv 3 года назад
@@BrandonLund Thank you for your reply. My Dad owned auto salvage yards, transmission shops, painting & auto body shop, and I started assisting him (at 15 years of age) while he was the body man at the Oxnard, CA Earl Schieb Paint shop. Production, not so much quality, was the highest driver at Schieb's, so I mixed Bondo and primered for Pop and learned to spray paint motorcycles & cars. Other business ventures brought more experience for me, so I've been very fortunate to be exposed to different learning opportunities. My Dad stuck me in front of an old Hobart, almost taller than I was at 9 years of age (1960), and gave me a tin of 6011 sticks; he found it was cheaper to do this then let me run loose in the salvage yard. So I'm not without some knowledge of welding things together, I'm not in the league as you are. Keep up the great videos and sharing your insights of welding. Take care, from an old HVAC guy.
@shahbazkh2885
@shahbazkh2885 5 лет назад
Very nice
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thank you very much!
@1loadermanjack
@1loadermanjack 5 лет назад
😎👍Good job
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 4 года назад
You can calculate the load on the handle by measuring from the vertical axis of the load to the fracture. It was MUCH more than the 100lb load weight!
@flyback_driver
@flyback_driver 2 года назад
He's also not adding the weight of that probably 50lbs chain.
@seanowenharnett
@seanowenharnett Год назад
@@flyback_driver Huh? The chain was included in the measurement. It was in the tote along with everything else.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Shhhhh your going to spoil it for him and take away his fun. People love to find fault and things to complain about. I'm guessing he skipped through the video or he would have seen what we all saw lol.
@elmarvlog4624
@elmarvlog4624 2 года назад
God job sir
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
@3EF FLORES thank you very much! 🙏
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
Once upon a yesteryear, I welded some cracks in Chevy engine block with 6013 rod. I tried welding it cold with wasn’t working ( of course ) so we got out a torch and heated the area around the crack then it welded much nicer than I expected as that was the only rod I had , no nickel rod. The main thing with REAL cast iron is the pre- heating. To really properly weld real cast iron is ( if possible ) heat the whole thing in oven then take out and weld and then put back in oven and cool very slowly. BUT who can do that? 99% of the time you’re limited with just heating with a torch and trying not to cool too fast. Many moons later I welded up a water pump for a well with nickel stick rod and it held AIR as well as water pressure. So yes , it is possible to get solid sealing welds with stick rod. ( it was a jigsaw puzzle not just a crack )
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Sometimes the best way to learn is to just try! Farmers especially know this and have been doing what others consider impossible for many years.
@stephendall2329
@stephendall2329 4 года назад
That weld looks strong enough to hold my pancakes...which for some reason aren’t all that fluffy....but I am... Thank you for the great information, I have a couple projects that I have been holding off on attempting until I get some professional advice. Looks like they will be tackled in the next couple of days,
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks man! You can do it!
@kamenathompson5044
@kamenathompson5044 4 года назад
what kind of rod will you used to weld a ploughing disk for a tracktor
@Bigknucklesandhands
@Bigknucklesandhands 4 года назад
Thanks for this video, I’m preparing myself for a huge cast iron bowl repair that measures 6 feet wide and it is currently in two equal pieces lol I’m probably gonna use ceramic blankets and a number 10 rosebud tip for preheating
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thats massive. Yes a preheat and insulated cool down are essential. Good luck with your repair.
@Bigknucklesandhands
@Bigknucklesandhands 4 года назад
Brandon Lund thanks man! Subscribed 👍🏼
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
@@Bigknucklesandhands thanks for the sub man! If you have FB feel free to share a pic..everyone loves project pics.
@Bigknucklesandhands
@Bigknucklesandhands 4 года назад
Brandon Lund I would but I don’t use Facebook anymore.....maybe I can put a video together 👍🏼
@Bigknucklesandhands
@Bigknucklesandhands 4 года назад
Brandon Lund well they got upset at me over the cost! So we are probably not going through with the repair lol
@dennyskerb4992
@dennyskerb4992 5 лет назад
Very cool 😎
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks Denny!
@asemopatton2828
@asemopatton2828 3 года назад
Wow perfect welding strong enough
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thank you!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 5 лет назад
Nice bluearc welder Brandon bro
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks man! Yah this is by far my favorite stick welder. VERY smooth arc
@boltonky
@boltonky 4 года назад
Interesting series, the problem with welding anything cast is actually the grain structure not material, for me its either brazing or tig with ML60 or MY60 rod (think thats name its a specialist rod and cost like $40 each that my engineer friend gets) Although you want something trick check out cold welding cast :)
@jwdickinson643
@jwdickinson643 5 лет назад
soooooooo, I gotta go buy a welder next time my cast iron skillet breaks? Just kidding! Great video! just goes to prove that when someone says it can’t be done, someone who thinks outside the box shows that it can indeed be done. Well done sir!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Thanks man! I appreciate your support!
@matthewhall5571
@matthewhall5571 5 лет назад
J W Dickinson you could actually fix it on the cheap using a MAPP gas torch to do the preheat and brazing. But the torch and rod would still cost more than a new Lodge pan.
@jwdickinson643
@jwdickinson643 5 лет назад
Matthew Hall very true...however, Brandon just used the pan as a test piece to prove the process. This obviously carries over to other cast iron parts, like vintage car exhaust manifolds that can no longer be found or cast parts that would far out cost the repair supplies or service.
@Goldwing1500rider
@Goldwing1500rider 11 месяцев назад
Nice demo… I’m always skipical on cast iron welding… I have cast iron stove around 1900 corners broke off… wanted fix it and display the stove. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 11 месяцев назад
Thanks man! Give it a go. Try silicon bronze. You will love it
@mauroarantes9407
@mauroarantes9407 Год назад
WOOOW GOOD THANK YOU...
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Welcome 😊
@mongomay1
@mongomay1 3 года назад
I used 316L filler to fill the gaps and tack and then reheat the part and use cast nickel filler rod all in the TIG welding process, pin holes were easier to fill, heat part again after welding with peening, then let heat soak for several hours. I believe it is important to reheat the affected heat zones to help the metal reduce stresses. My part was a cast iron gas manifold venturi 1-1/2" NPT connection fractured from misalignment/stress failure. Base metal was about 1/4" thick, maybe more.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
@mongomay1 Interesting! I have tried 316L and didn't have good luck but I also didn't use it like you mentioned. I'm going to have to give that a try! Thank you!
@mongomay1
@mongomay1 3 года назад
@@BrandonLund It seems the 316L helps float the junk up. grind it clean, then hit it with the nickel, clean out the intrusion/floaters and weld some more it is a PITA, but the idea is to rescue the part and keep the plant running. Have to have a specific goal and then work something until you get it fixed. The part I mentioned was 2 weeks out for a natural gas venturi to an industrial oven and we could not have any leaks. A small needle scaler can work for peening.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thats awesome man but I agree it sounds like a lot of work but a solid repair!
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 11 месяцев назад
Try 309l, it's a higher nickle content.. I've had good luck with 309 using tig on exhaust manifolds with a good preheat and good post heat, no nickle rods or brazing and no leaks
@ghettobikelife8833
@ghettobikelife8833 5 лет назад
Anyone else tried the Hobart ‘nomacast’ rod? Doesn’t say if it has nickel or anything else in it, and it’s cheaper then their proper nickel cast rods. Ran decent looking beads for my crappy project but there were spider cracks at the start/finish of some of the beads.
@cavemanjoe7972
@cavemanjoe7972 5 лет назад
Best thing for beveling joints without contamination is a simple carbide burr. Use it in an air die grinder if your compressor tank is big enough, or get an electric die grinder for $100-ish and not have to worry about air. Also, an air hammer with a blunted tip works great for peening, and peens much more evenly than you can by hand.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Great points buddy! Thank you for sharing :)
@OldGuy70s
@OldGuy70s 10 месяцев назад
I use my 160amp welder... same set up... 1 knob to turn, and a switch for stick or tig... Vrd switch on bk, and a 240/120 switch....
@drummerboy6843
@drummerboy6843 4 года назад
This is awesome! I have atractor implement that parts of it is cast iron so it's about 3/4 - 1" thick that broke further inspection it already had a crack in it for sometime before it broke. I asked around with local welders and said it can't be welded back together and that I had to have it remolded and this part is a big heavy piece that only the end part that holds it together broke off. So my question is can I weld something that thick back together cause I noticed that you welded cast iron that is 1/2" thick.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thanks man I appreciate you watching and commenting. To do it right you will need to heat it up...keep it hot as you weld it then insulate it real good with a welders blanket to control the cooling. 1" is thick but if you can control the preheat and the post cooling, the welding is actually the simple part. If its already broke it can only get better right.
@drummerboy6843
@drummerboy6843 4 года назад
@@BrandonLund ok kool thanks for your reply .ill give it a shot see if i can fix it! But in the mean time more videos on your channel i really learned alot from your videos thank you for all you do. Im not an expert but a do it yourselfer !👍
@davemi00
@davemi00 4 года назад
I learned - that I’m Not buying $100s of dollars of Welding Equipmnt, to Weld a $160 Cast Vice. Thank you ... time to buy a new Vice❕
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
No, but if you do, then you can charge others to fix their broken vise then eventually your tools will have paid for themselves. I only buy tools with that thought in mind. Many of my tools have paid for themselves 10x over.
@240Volts
@240Volts 5 лет назад
Good to know 6013 can do decent welds considering all the hate they get. I often use 6013 myself since it usually starts easier, 7018 is ok too. Should cut that cast iron pan in half and weld it back together and run it over or something.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 лет назад
Great suggestion! I like it! Thank you
@starnet36
@starnet36 4 года назад
Brandon, great video. I have a cast-iron skillet I use, but the handle is way too short because the skillet is very heavy. I would like to lengthen the handle by welding a longer piece to the handle. For this job, what is the best material to use for welding/lengthening the handle?
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 4 года назад
Thank you! For liability reasons I have to tell you that you shouldn't do this because if the handle were to break with hot grease someone could be severely injured or die but if you were to attempt it for testing purposes, nickel rod works very well with cast iron. You could use steel or better yet find a cast iron pan and cut the handle :)
@cutweldngrind
@cutweldngrind 2 года назад
I got to weld a part for my tractor that's cast iron and only have a stick welder. I have 6010, 6011 and 7018 electrodes which will be a better choice. I also dont have an oxy torch so adding one to my Christmas list. The part controls how deep the implements go so not sure of the name or stress on part.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
@Jorge Serna of those choices a 7018 would work best. Better yet you can get small packs of nickle 99 at Tractor supply that would be your best bet
@billarroo1
@billarroo1 3 года назад
Welding cast iron. Is something that is a tricky repair. Low Heat and Peening seems to work well. I would like to see how cast iron repair will hold up when the metal gets hot and cold cycles repeated constantly as in an engine block, like a section of 3"x 4" piece is missing from the side of an engine and replaced the a piece of steel, will it leak oil ? Great Video, thanks for the info. William from Orange County California
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Hey William cast iron that is heat cycled in air versus heat cycled in fluid will have a tendency to crack easier. The reason is that cast iron that goes through heat cycles in the air will have a faster temperature swing and be less stable than a part that is submerged in liquid which rises and cools slower. Heat cycles will always increase the risk of it cracking again
@stickermigtigger
@stickermigtigger 3 года назад
I doubt you'll ever find bacon and eggs that weight that much; maybe my ex-wife's cornbread.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Hahaha thanks man!
@lorenzo42p
@lorenzo42p 3 года назад
I have a cracked banking plate for my coal stove. it only took one season to go from a hairline crack to a hole I could stick a pen through. can I stick weld it with 6011? worse case I'll be rewelding it again middle of the season, making it look worse until it's unusable.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Something like that you would do yourself a huge favor by picking up a couple nickel 99 rods at tractor supply.
@sephangelo4603
@sephangelo4603 3 года назад
Moral of the story, don't underestimate the E6013. Moreover, it's the welder not the material. Most countries don't have access to electrodes beyond the E6013. Overall, you're a great welder.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
What a great compliment! 👍 thank you very much! 🙏
@keillorchristoph
@keillorchristoph 10 месяцев назад
😮 I was impressed that it was holding up the chain with a little bit of sand. I do have a question I have a cast iron pot belly stove can not find them anymore it has cracks in the side what is a good welding rod and implements for a Lodge cast iron pot belly stove repair
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 9 месяцев назад
If it's in the heat firebox area I would suggest a nickel rod and if it's a leg or something that doesn't get above 600 degrees I would use silicon bronze mig wire
@keillorchristoph
@keillorchristoph 9 месяцев назад
@@BrandonLund thank you for your response thank you thank you. I will definitely experiment with that. Seeing it's so difficult to find a non EPA wood cook stove I was going to build one using hot-rolled quarter inch steel plate. Or would you recommend something else? I kind of have to go on the cheap. As well as basically learning how to do it as I go.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 9 месяцев назад
@keillorchristoph sometimes building on the fly gives the best results, modifying as you go. I'm not an expert on stoves but I would think 1/4" would be adequate.
@Reub3
@Reub3 3 года назад
WooooW! I'm more surprised at the strength of the plastic container. XD
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
The true hero here is Rubbermaid!
@Reub3
@Reub3 3 года назад
@@BrandonLund rubbermaid for the win hehe
@davewright522
@davewright522 2 года назад
Surprised the slab of steel you clamped it to didn't act as a heat sink, sucking all the heat out of the pan. Could try a test by using the pan to cook with, to see if thermal expansion of the parent metal is greater than the weld. It certainly held some weight 👍
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Thats a great point @ Dave Wright. I can't remember because I've done so many but I have other videos elevating it on nuts for that reason. I've had good luck on heat cycles.
@chrisallen3741
@chrisallen3741 Год назад
Brandon, it’s awesome that the weld is strong but when i think of cast iron in my local i think of wood stoves and of course the cast iron cookware……so, when you apply heat to the cast iron while cooking it on the wood stove or fire…….doesnt it affect how strong the weld is after you weld it? I have a 100 year old wood stove that i broke the foot pedal to the oven door. I asked around several people who specifically work on these stoves and he told me it is very difficult to weld it since the constant heating and cooling of the medal….
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
It will. It's one of the reasons I refuse to repair cast iron pans for people. Woodstoves don't worry me due to the high heat...much higher than a cast iron pan
@piecetoyou8285
@piecetoyou8285 5 месяцев назад
Hi did you try heating up the pan like what would happen when cooking then try the weight strength test ,would this have a effect on its breaking weight test
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 5 месяцев назад
I have done a bunch of exhaust manifolds with no issues. Eventually it may or may not fail. Cast iron can be unpredicatable.
@bigbothoee8617
@bigbothoee8617 2 года назад
Nice man guess I won't weld my hubs now lolololol thanks
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 года назад
Yah probably not a good idea lol
@RichardKankhuku
@RichardKankhuku 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the help know lhave know how yo do it
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 2 месяца назад
Glad to help 👍
@bobsbarnworkshop
@bobsbarnworkshop 3 года назад
Question... I have an old bench vice with one of the mounting "ears" broken off and long gone. Can I weld on a new tab out of steel to repair it? I have access to ac stick (which I'm very experienced with!), tig (which I have no experience using) and a gas shielded mig, which I use for smaller work.. Thanks, great video!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
You can but I've had mixed results. A lot of other people have had good success also
@bobsbarnworkshop
@bobsbarnworkshop 3 года назад
@@BrandonLund At this point I’ve got nothing to loose! THX!
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
No problem and good luck. If you have a way to preheat it like a gas grill, throw it in there for 20 minutes or so on high before welding. Do short beads with peining then bury it overnight in dry play sand. Please check back in. These repairs and results help a lot of folks. Good luck!
@bobsbarnworkshop
@bobsbarnworkshop 3 года назад
@@BrandonLund thanks, I can put it in the oven at 450 for a while! The break has like a point that goes in under the base so some angles to weld should make it stronger too! I’m thinking of a 3/8” thick tab ground to fit in there as close as I can.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
I agree 👍
@kamenathompson5044
@kamenathompson5044 4 года назад
what kind of rod will you used for a
@johndziegiel588
@johndziegiel588 3 года назад
Seems all the repairs were successful, great video! Which method produced the prettiest repair?
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund 3 года назад
Thanks John. I like nickel for repairs. Welds like butter.
@luciusirving5926
@luciusirving5926 Год назад
The 6013 running via a homemade welder via MOTs can penetrate rust and do just about anything "professional" electrodes can do. Yes, anneal cast iron in lime after welding for best results.
@BrandonLund
@BrandonLund Год назад
Spot on!
@luciusirving5926
@luciusirving5926 Год назад
Best AC stick experience ever. Will never buy a buzz box which I borrowed or cheap inverter ever.
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