So glad you showed the difficulties when working on saws, not everything goes just perfectly every time as we saw today. This one would have tested my patience for sure. 😂👍👍
Well Tinman glad you’re showing the Good, Bad and the Ugly! Real-world problems happen. I have faith in you and you will figure it out! Can’t wait to see how it ends up! Good Luck!
Truly appreciate your willingness to share all of the challenges you encountered working on this saw. Your perseverance paid off I think. I'm anxious to see this saw cut wood!
This is most probably another 024/026/260 carb. The 036 carb has a built in choke flap. Fuel line: yes, there are two versions. The old one is shorter and just straight. The new one has this „S“ shape to it. Never thought that through but the new one might be thicker at the top portion. Just can tell that my sweet running 026 red lever (with heated handle) has the old, short fuel line in it. Can’t wait to see Charlie joining you in the shop. My daughter helps me working on saws since the age of 3 😂
I second the older shorter fuel line. Was asked when buying a new one for my 95' 026, and was told by the dealer that the older ones used the shorter one since it was one of the older models. A bit of a sidenote. The 036/360 carb it available as a limiter carb if buying new, 3 versions. 1 without compensator(nozzle due hicky), one with compensator, and one with compensator and limiters. Not sure about the 026. Pro tip, when assembling the throttle. Put the leaver in chocke, holds it in much easier😊
Hey Tinman. I’ve built a lot of 026’s over the years. People love that saw but I’ve had so many issues with carbs on those saws. I would much prefer a 51 or 55 Husqvarna as a firewood saw. The choke is a big problem on those saws, even though the choke flap in the air filter is engaging, the plastic plate is not closing off the opening. You can take the filter a part and sand that flap some and it will help it to pull fuel. I’ve got a friend that has one and every year he asks me to look at it, and all I do is pop the filter cover off and spray it with starting fluid and it pops off and that’s all it takes. I’ve built so many of those I won’t work on them any longer. I’d much rather have the home owner model of an 025 or an MS250. More dependable saws if you ask me. The 024 and 026 to me are to temperamental and they just aren’t that dependable. If someone has a good running one that is like a unicorn to me. Stihl makes some awesome saws, although I’m a Husqvarna man myself, but that saw is not one I like. The newer MS261 is a heck of a good saw, way better than an 026.
Glad you keep the camera rolling. Proud that you didn’t throw it lol. Lets us see how you approach different issues. Have you checked compression? I dip my fuel filters while checking. I had one that looked great, but weak at the top which only allowed gas to enter there. It limited the flow.
I had months of trouble with my 036 Pro, it did the same thing. Replace the impulse line. My gas line had fuel but my spark plug was dry. The impulse was a little hard but seemed good. It wasn't. Soon as I put a new impulse line on and an OEM, it fired and it runs. Its still 10 pulls cold to start, but one pull once it fires.
Hi tinman , hopefully you get the carb sorted , i noticed the starter rope not retracting properly , on all my 026 stihls the pulley binds up after 4 x pulls , i drill out the pulley and extra .5 mm And it works well , Cheers Luke
Those carbs are really touchy! My 026 has a real small adjustment area very small! I bought another one and I may install it to see if it is the carburetor has a problem!
I had a problem couldn’t get my saw to start ordered a new carb didn’t fix the issue found out exhaust screen was plugged 😅 now I’ve learned to read the plug and adjust the carb so it doesn’t run to rich and plug up everything 😂 live and learn glad your walking us through all the issues with this one and not letting it get to you keep it up. Brake it easy Tinman can’t wait to see the next video.
BUMP Tinman, I hope your vacation was good and unstressful, time with the family is precious. I am back watching and really miss going to my shop and applying what you are teaching. (Read email) Take care friend!
Maybe the impulse seat on the cylinder or carb kit it was a bit of a mix and match kit you put in. Frustrating when they don't cooperate. It knows it needs to be in the wood that's what it lives for😂. Will be very informative when you solve it. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙
Sounds like an 026 that I've rebuilt before. Never ran the best. Also it's a good idea to always keep the top cover on so your flywheel can cool the cylinder. Without it the air just goes straight up . Doesn't take too long to get hot. Have a recently built ms260 that runs poorer once warmed up but I believe I have narrowed it down to piston ring end gap that's just a little tight. So I run it till it starts to run different than let it sit and repeat. It has caber rings so they do have the reputation of breaking in slow. But it's running better and better every tank I put through it!!!
I loved reading to my kids it was good times, good to hear that take time to spend with your kid. Good video, watching you work through problems its not always put them back together and they run like a top. Thanks Sir!
Always fun to watch ! I recently got an S24 ultra phone You will have to try out the auto tracking and zoom feature it has. I believe it only works on video not pro video mode. Icon to turn it on is bottom right side of screen
This was a great video. It reminded me of my own issues getting an 026 fuel problem lined out. Mine had that factory sealant floating around inside the carb sticking the needle. One minute it started on the first pull and ran great, the next minute no fuel and it wouldn't start. I found the sealant floating around in it when I disassembled for the carb kit. Oh, I was taking apart the top of the handle every time I removed the carb too and after about the third or fourth time I found out by accident the carb linkage can be removed by holding the throttle wide open and then disconnecting the linkage from the carb. It'll reconnect the same way. You're gonna love that, I did! LOL!
I have an 021 and a 025 and both of them take at least four poles on choke and then three more pulls off to start, every single time. But they always start.
I only have two Stihl Saws and plenty of Husqvarna and Jonsereds that are way easier to work on. I am glad you are doing some Stihl Videos just in case I ever need to take one apart.
interestingly enough...i did the SAME EXACT THING with my fuel line on my last 026 build. cut a grommet to prevent fuel leaks at the tank and slid Echo fuel line through from carb to tank. also added a Walbro fuel filter and that fixed my fuel delivery issues! theres ways around EVERYTHIING! lol. but i didnt do a timing advance on this saw and she hit on pull number 3...but i DID have to fatten up to a 1 1/8 th of a turn on both sides...im assuming till the new rings seat. ive idled 2 tanks through it but i also added Caber rings which in my experience,, takes a lil bit for them to seat properly. thanks for the info and these ARE GREAT little saws! but i WILL say that this saw gave me a FIT going back together. for SOME ODD REASON it chose to fight me THE WHOLE WAY! but i gotter' DONE'
Watching this series is like looking in the mirror when I tried to revive an o28 super. I decided I liked my shoulder more than the saw and haven’t looked back. I’ve never had that kind of trouble with my husqvarna’s or even ol’ Mcculloch’s. Toss it n keep your pulling arm from getting injured. If your more determined than myself it might be wise to replace that air filter. That was the only thing I didn’t try
Hey tinman, love that you share the entire journey. You mentioned that the saw 4-strokes beautiful... what exactly do you mean by that? How can a 2 stroke engine be 4-stroking? Thanks a lot for your great work, always looking forward to your power saw content.
These 026/MS260 had a whole bunch of different carb options during their production runs 260's alone had four different carbs. I have a bunch of these little buggers great running saws but very fussy when tuning them, all have different carbs on them and all of them are very picky when adjusting them. You can't make big adjustments on them only a hair at a time make a cut or two then just a tad again 1/16 of a turn or less, on mine 1/8 of a turn on either jet one way or the other can mean it will run great or not at all like I said these saws are very picky at least the ones I have. Great running saws otherwise but I agree with you I personally prefer working on my Husqvarna and Jonsered saws.
Pulse line? 😮. I kind of like when things go wrong, for the educational value. Things go bad for everyone, and you have the resources to make a change, and the knowledge to go deeper than average Joe that has neither alternative parts or experience to go further. Anyone can be a parts changer, but a real mechanic keeps digging deeper because that’s what makes you a mechanic. Damn it, now I am not letting this silly mindless piece of metal get the best of me, cuz that’s what I am. ( Spinach optional )😂. For everyone I get right off the bat I probably get one that isn’t, and that’s where the challenge comes in. You will get it, and I need one with your sticker (decal) on it, for a tired Old Man 😊
my 026 has been hard starting for years! 8-9 pulls!!ordered a carb kit and a coil from wolf creek yesterday!! in the olden days i would have grabbed it by the bar and tossed it into the ocean! $80 for a carb!
Looks like metering system problems . Try a combination different lever heights and diaphragms with different spigot dimensions to make the needle opening more sensitive. Sounds like insufficient fuel volume in the metering chamber.
I had an 026 with a similar problem, ended up being a loose welch plug in the carb. Little tap with a punch and hammer, and it ran great. I finally noticed it after about the 5th carb clean. 🙄
It’s running lean on the low circuit for some reason. That’s what’s making it hard to start. If a saw is not easy to tune then you got an issue. Also see if the saw will idle in all positions.
That is one of those Stihl saws with the choke in the air filter that can be problematic like the Stihl 028/038. I bet the rings need seated in. If having a hard time starting put oil in the cylinder it should start.
Yes difference in fuel lines. Can make new style work, have to trim d9wn to keep from kinking under carb after air filter is installed. I'm curious is orange tank vent rubber is under tank vent.
My 026 is just like this. Sometimes impossible to start, sometimes runs on the first pull, idle often moves around, slow to return to idle after revving. Held vacuum for 10 minutes. Curious if you can figure out what's wrong with yours. No idea what's wrong with mine, I mess with it once a year until I get sick of it. thanks for sharing.
