Stimming reviews 1010music Bluebox / Blackbox

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In this video, our in-house reviewer, Martin Stimming unpicks the BlueBox and BlackBox from US-based 1010music.
The BlueBox is a portable digital audio mixer with 6 stereo or 12 mono tracks and the BlackBox is a compact sampling studio with intuitive touchscreen control which received several firmware updates in the last months giving this sampler a ton of new features. Let's see what Stimming hast to say about the two stylish boxes.
Addendum from Stimming:
The BlueBox records each track into an individual file, making it a true multitrack recorder, I didn't make that clear. I also forgot to mention both devices stream all their audio from the micro sd card.
The noise doesn't come from the 1010 units, it was the headphone amplifier of the Sounddevice recorder.
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@MartinStimming 3 года назад

another thing I forgot to mention regarding the blackbox: the audio output voltage fits inside the eurorack norm (5V?) - that means two things: any audio output can be used inside your modular system as triggers, envelopes, fm, you name it. and then: its output is very loud! (and clear :))

@francobrecken4304 2 года назад

Instablaster.

@konstantine8054 Год назад

Got a question for you that I've been wondering for a while: if you're only recording one synth, why not go Blackbox > Bluebox and save yourself the hassle of having a more complicated signal path? From your video, I only saw you use the EQ as a filter on the Bluebox, but not the recording options, so I am unsure what was the purpose of the feedback patching you set up, and I am very curious about your thinking. Fat chance, I know, but I'd love to get an answer.

@TheGreekSamurai 3 года назад

I could watch Stimming review gear forever

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Glad to hear. More to come. Support us and subscribe if you like.

@Anthony-sn9kl 3 года назад

Same.

@AppAxis 2 года назад

Gives Netflix a run for the money.

@thelantern9075 3 года назад

I’ve got the Blackbox, it seems quite simple at first, but it’s really a very creative magic machine. Granular is insanely beautiful for ambient stuff, and poly playing samples is gorgeous. Love this machine. Sound fidelity it quite on point as well.

@roccoharris 3 года назад

this is great!! thanks for walking us through all this so thoroughly. very, very helpful stuff. bravo!! that little jam right before your summary is a sweet, little organic groove. brilliant!!

@MartinStimming 3 года назад

thank you sir!

@aradder 3 года назад

Just picked up both of them, cool to see a video using them together. My wish for firmware update on the Bluebox is per-track dynamics on the inputs. Even a basic one-knob comp/lim would be an amazing addition.

@Lhenndyn 3 года назад

I could watch 6 hours of Stimming reviews in a raw. The best !

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Feel free, we need some watchtime 😂

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Important information: The noisyness doesn't come from the 1010 units, it was the headphone amplifier of his Sounddevice recorder.

@MStimming 3 года назад

thank you mister director for clarifying this - indeed, our expensive recorder has quite a bit of noise on the headphone out, thats why I was confused. both those boxes are impressively quiet!

@sapbucry 2 года назад

is microphone going to Sounddevice recorder or is it recorded independently. I am just trying to work out how you sync Martin voice with the rest of the audio in your setup, thanks! If that is MixPre 3 then there is place for stereo from Bluebox + vocal from lav...

@jahmontee74 3 года назад

Great review, been eyeing the bluebox for multi tracking my eurorack jams.

@henryAightch 3 года назад

Finally someone does a good review on the Blackbox! Love that machine. It's quirky but it is super cool!

@KordTaylor 3 года назад

Very cool! Really like seeing these together.

@KordTaylor 2 года назад

Such a great video! Exactly what is was looking for thanks. Time to subscribe so I can all the latest Blackbox tricks.

@GuitarsAndSynths Год назад

Love my Bluebox works great and also have a TX-6 on the way as I like small mixer recorders that don't require a lot of space.

@milanwulf 3 года назад

I have a Bluebox and love it so far, but I wish there was a cue/pfl button to switch between the main mix and the selected tracks on the headphones. Also a one knob filter would be great, otherwise a super nice unit that replaces my bulky Mackie mixer.

@thesesmallboxes 2 года назад

This was excellent! Your reviews are a dive into how the units are used. Oh, and I feel equally “awkward” saying “DAW”. It’s an acronym that doesn’t really invite pronunciation so I just spell it.

@510th 4 месяца назад

me everyday "why does it work now, that is strange..." enjoyable and informative as always, cheers :D

@crolodon8024 3 года назад

The part where he second-guesses twiddle, ahaha, loved it.

@inf0tr8r 3 года назад

need the bluebox now.. love how these are named too.. reminds of phreaking days

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

A great little powerful box. I ordered one too 😀

@techtalkmike4968 3 года назад

... that would make Stimming Captain Crunch!

@matrixknobs2848 3 месяца назад

Very good presentation, thank you

@spenzakwsx4430 3 года назад

just call it Goldbox. Because everything Stimming touches becomes gold.

@chridmeister 3 года назад

Why doesn't Stimming have a million fans? He rules

@iamrocketray 3 года назад

Wow Martin! 1010 aught to pay you a commission. This is the best review/tutorial of the Blackbox/Bluebox that i have heard, and in your second language, you are a very talented guy and you have sold me on the blackbox bluebox combo. I was considering Rolands MC707 but no more, the 1010 workflow is exactly what I was looking for considering that i am not a musician, more a tech type who wants to make music.

@RoryCorrigan 2 года назад

I have both and I can say that the 707 is very intuitive and I have been able to sit down and just start getting ideas out pretty quickly and easily.

@konstantine8054 3 года назад

Dude, you're really funny! I'll buy you a beer next time I'm in Germany, this was an unexpectedly fantastic review!

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

there are many more here and at www.eb.tv

@chateautemp 5 месяцев назад

@@musictalk-tech that's a lot of beer

@projectswithstrangers3860 3 года назад

thank you appreciate the review i guess i need to get it and a di and a preamp

@sentimental7167 3 года назад

Nice review, thanks. So you use the EQ of the Bluebox a bit like a Filter (effect). And recording individual tracks would be inside Bluebox in 48khz/24bit, mix being recorded in Mixpre at 98khz/32bit. I agree that the Blackbox is not really a stand-alone device.

@leemski 2 года назад

THX! Great vid!

@peterpan3492 3 года назад

Cool review- thx

@ReasonedWhistle 3 года назад

Martin is the best! :) Liked and subscribed. Cannot wait for more content :)

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Next Review next week - Novation Circuit Tracks

@markob808 3 года назад

Stimming Is The Truth!

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

@Marcellus_MB More to come soon. Novation Circuit Tracks Review next week. Pls. subscribe to support if you like.

@siccavicca Год назад

Hi …tnx for a great review of these two machines .. I’ve been thinking about the blue ox ..but could you tell me if it can now sync as a slave .. I’d Ike to use it as a slave when recording sessions . Tnx on advanced .

@H4NDCRAFTED 3 года назад

As much as I love hardware , koala sampler on iOS is the most useful I’ve found. Bouncing that into an mc707 makes workflow super fast, and the chopping finds that zero cross over so quickly. The mixer seems much more exciting out of these boxes.

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

The Granular synthesis makes the BlackBox very special in my opinion and it's very intuitive. But yes, I prefer the mixer too. Some great features and there will be more updates for sure.

@RonanSkillen8 Год назад

Wonderfully eccentric review! Looking forward to cutting my teeth with the blackbox 👌🏽

@No.0.o.0 3 года назад

There should be a shift+scroll to minimize twiddle times for long files. :3

@Decoy303 3 года назад

Every electronic music device should have a shift function to move patterns from left to right.

@jaxager 2 года назад

It should have a dedicated volume knob too. Every device should. And it would be great if it scrolled the names of files as you highlight them in the preset screen. This is something every device that has samples should do. I have the Roland MC-101 and they don't do it either. Very annoying.

@mmhcreates 2 года назад

Interesting boxes, thank you for sharing. Also, "Twiddle?" is a word, just to confirm your mild confusion.

@sykromsmile6303 3 года назад

Great video

@Anthony-sn9kl 3 года назад

Stimming Reviews ❤️

@rohanjoseph101 3 года назад

Superb review! I want both! What kind of cables are you using trs on both ends? Also mind sharing their brand?

@leftmono1016 3 года назад

Assume they’re trs both ends for stereo. Branding doesn’t matter!

@timschannel247 3 года назад

From a haptical point of view very nice, because there is still enough space for your fingers turning the encoders/knobs and you have a quite huge display.

@Thedrumsthebass 3 года назад

Your own channel Stimming? Good stuff. Subbed

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Not his own but he is an important part of this channel

@Thedrumsthebass 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech good move on you guys part. I love the way he thinks critically , it’s like a super power

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

yes, and he is just a nice and very skilled musician. PS. We did the reviews on EB.TV with him as well. Just release them on our own channel now.

@SpeakerNoise 3 года назад

Martin, thanks for the interesting review. You mentionend a recorder in the beginning of the video. What kind of recorder do you use top record those reviews? Would the 1010 mixer bei suitable? Thanks for the inspiration!

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

www.sounddevices.com/products/

@SpeakerNoise 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech Cool! Danke!!

@orphanfrequencyyeah1742 3 года назад

Together with the Beebo/Digit this would be a portable ministudio.

@shookstylez 2 года назад

How do you use these live? Is there a way to dj full tracks or use backing tracks on the bluebox? I think it could be great to see a tutorial or video from you about this Stimming! Love you

@macognia82 Год назад

In your opinión whichone will be better for live performance if you had to choose ?

@cn300 Год назад

Was der Typ anfasst, wird Gold

@burkimoo 3 года назад

stimming in we trust 😊

@underwoodblog 3 года назад

What brand are these green USB-Cables?

@markmary9440 3 года назад

A new gear review Channel - including awesome Stimming - he ist the nelson müller of gear reviews ;-) We wanna support - is there a donate option ?

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

At the end of the description 🙏

@tiffanzsolti Год назад

Please someone tell me what TRS cables does Stimming use here? The colored braided ones.

@spekenbonen72 Год назад

On guitar, you can try to fix/avoid noise by using a separate powergroup/fuse (which you only use for your instuments. Even a simple ). Not sure if this applies to keyboards/samplers etc. (Glimmröhre and even L.E.D. lights can cause noise, if on the same group)

@strangesevin 3 года назад

I want to record a microphone with digital effects pedal would that work and guitar too . I haven’t bought blue box because I need vocals and my. Guitar please let me know . everything sounds real good and great channel .please let me know if you know a work around thanks I liked and subscribed

@rewwhiskas4234 3 года назад

Where are those nice pink and blue braided cables from?!

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Год назад

Why isn't the BlackBox black? :) ha ha. I own a BlackBox and YES, when I powered it from the same USB source as my Roland Boutiques, massive noise, MASSIVE. Used the power supply from 1010Music included, noise 100% gone. One item I made sure of when sampling synths into the BlackBox is that they were analog to constrain the number of DAC and ADC's. So your review would be more impressive with an analog synth, the recording quality of the BlackBox is absolutely incredible, pristine and highly professional. The BlackBox has 3 stereo outputs, not 4, and highly configurable between 3 stereo or 6 mono, or anything. I have no detectable noise in my BlackBox using the included power supply.

@CO5MA 3 года назад

🙌🏻

@projectswithstrangers3860 3 года назад

is there any way to record vocals and guitar or only synths

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

You can record everything. Bluebox is a mixer with recording function

@victordelacruz8440 Год назад

I wonder what I'd like to compliment my TE OP-1 classic. I am looking at this one as oppose to the TX-6.

@DRRNNDGL 3 года назад

damn just went from having no interest in either of these machines to being totally sold on the blackbox, excited to see what the bluebox becomes further down the firmware update line too

@istvantoth7431 Год назад

What's the computational capacity of these two? (RAM)

@Eightball69 3 года назад

Oh balls I'm going to have to pull the trigger on the Bluebox now 😝

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

I ordered one too 😬

@Eightball69 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech just ordered!

@chateautemp 5 месяцев назад

Are you still happy with the Blue Box? Do you often use the 'stems in DAAAW' via SD or is it primarily a live mixer for small setups?

@DM-gd8ik 2 года назад

Have they implemented an "unquantized" option yet ?

@jaxager 2 года назад

Speaking of too loud... I wish the blackbox had a dedicated volume knob. Every piece of gear should have a volume knob. In my humble opinion

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Год назад

Pro levels from high quality preamps are getting very rare these days, I applaud BB on their quality product that does not need an additional preamp at the mixer to bring a weak signal to normal. Maybe you should add a mixer or a DAI that has level controls to your rig?

@qwut9544 Год назад

@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene I keep reading replies like this to very valid issues, regarding this unit: “just use another peripheral!” My opinion, so far, is this: your reply isn’t an incorrect solution. It does reinforce my suspicion that the unit is not a great value at the price point. With all of these peripheral connections I’d be better suited to use my laptop.

@donkeyfacekilla1 3 года назад

Will the EB Tech Talk series also be on this channel from now on?

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Yes, most of the tech stuff like Studio Tech Talks, Ask The Producer etc. plus some new series over the time.

@pierrekuchmann3944 5 месяцев назад

Super interessting

@medenine4828 3 года назад

Awesome - what type of midi cable is that, that links the blue box and black box without needing the bulky 5 pin din? V cool.

@LostStylus 3 года назад

Regular audio trs 3.5mm cable

@salassandoval 4 месяца назад

Blackbox doesn't send program changes!!! What do you suggest for this? Or what do you usually do in a live performance? Do you change your patches manually if you are sequencing external synths with the blackbox? 😢

@Philodrone 3 года назад

It seems pretty good but kind of uninspiring at the same time. I've been looking for a sampler for a while now, but still not sold on this device. Midi features, time stretching and granular engine, what else would you need, right? Edit: maybe midi cc sampling for automation, that would be neat! Bitbox with its CV sampling capabilities might be the one, but eurorack is pricy af... Nice video as always! ✌️

@MartinStimming 3 года назад

When the Blackbox came out I thought exactly the same! But they managed to make a difference to any other sampler out there (mostly in efficiency in pretty much every aspect) which is making it a joy to use...

@rewwhiskas4234 3 года назад

I currently have my Blackbox running from a Squarp Pyramid and it's an amazing combo. Suddently you have step sequences and LFO's and so on running per-pad parameters.. super powerful! :D

@techtalkmike4968 3 года назад

@@rewwhiskas4234, for some reason I did not think of trying this combo ... which I have. Going to try it out tonight. Thank you!

@Delphinixa 3 года назад

On the Bluebox : Lower the gain and volume of the channels you don't use = less noise :)

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Pro-tip 😉

@el9delcielo Год назад

You should sample/ remix/ re-edit this video! It is full of cool sounds. To be honest, i kind of did (in my head)

@user-bb6tq4by8t 16 дней назад

I'm confused why hasn't the bitbox micro firmware caught up to the blackbox (midi sequencing specifically)

@teabreakbeats 3 года назад

They should make a darkblue box that can do both (sampler and mixer) when required

@harshrealm 3 года назад

If the bluebox had a looper I'd buy one immediately

@TS-ku7gi 3 года назад

Blackbox, a great and simple piece of equipment explained in a complicated way.

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Let's say in a more creative Stimming way 😉

@chateautemp 2 года назад

@@musictalk-tech it's what he doesn't say that makes it so compelling. A lot of feeling. Bit like the music.

@Decoy303 3 года назад

I honestly would just use this to capture samples off of movies, old music CDs and vinyl records.

@MartinStimming 3 года назад

and then you could immediately build something useful with it.

@LaymensLament Год назад

id recommend an old sp for that job tbh

@ncapone87 Год назад

@@LaymensLament nah this is better

@sidcatlet 3 года назад

the machines are noisy only if you plug them in a usb hub or some usb port that is not grounded or something, i use a power bank or directly to the grid and is supersilent!

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

The noisyness came from the Sounddevice headphone ampflier, so false alarm.

@noahsiekmann4275 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech yes, in this review it was the headphone Amp. However, the black box IS prone to USB caused ground noise. I know this because I own it and have experienced the ground noise. If you use a USB cable with a ground isolator on it, the noise stops.

@808Wood 2 года назад

I hate sampling and daws because I just have a mental block with them and I am not good. This looks right though. I think I could have fun with this.

@AndrewJohnClive 3 года назад

Great review. My only complaint was I bought it as a polyphonic sampler, but it just freaks out when trying to use polyphony. Everything els www as great.

@MStimming 3 года назад

yeah, it reaches its limit quite early, even faster in granular mode. from a modern perspective this is annoying but for creativity its not necessarily a bad thing...

@georgenada6413 2 года назад

I was thinking of getting one of these but somewhat discouraged to hear it doesn't handle polyphonic well. Not that I was hoping to make pads or anything. Four voices on the specs is fine but not if it freaks out!

@NeoLudditevisons 3 года назад

Need a stimming microfreak v3.00 review please!!

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

@Martin Stimming

@NeoLudditevisons 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech its totally worth another ‘mighty Microfreak video! V3 is like a new synth

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

@@NeoLudditevisons we know

@NeoLudditevisons 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech awesome!!!

@NedRush 3 года назад

I can confirm twiddle is a word.

@mosonic 3 года назад

What was missing in this review and I waited for it: what about the quality of the reverb and the capabilities of the delay? And can you - Meister Stimming - recommend the built-in equalizer? Can you recommend the reverb?

@MartinStimming 3 года назад

hey mosonic, you're right - I didnt talk about it. so, the blackbox reverb is of mediocre quality: in the digitakt league but less tweakable (three parameters) and it sounds not inspiring at all, its useful though. the bluebox reverb is different as it has 15 parameters including very interesting spread and feedback values, and it can do riser/drone sounds with the size-value. still - I haven't got an opinion about it. so far I have a mixed feeling about it - I would say it could beat a mediocre 100eur guitar pedal and I can imagine finding a value set that is inspiring and unheard but too often it sounded weird while using it. the eq is pretty good, I like the most that you dont hear if a band is switched on, I'm talking LoCut especially - where the (pretty bad) simple ableton eqs already colour the sound, the bluebox eq doesnt do any harm to the audio. havent checked deeply how a shelve in high-frequencies sounds. hope I could help.

@Cymatic18 Год назад

Can full bears be made on this?

@Limbic1000 3 года назад

Funkworm! 2005

@olejuul482 Год назад

Just got the novation sl mk3 - same problem - the company asked me to record a video while playing it - because "It's ONLY my SL mk3 with this problem" 🤥 !!!!!!!!

@FloCastells04 3 года назад

Dude you have some Collin Farell in you

@zeusdeux 3 года назад

I’d watch Stimming review a roll of toilet paper even from start to end

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Exciting 😂

@mmhcreates 2 года назад

Presumably only the start and end would be significant. "It began with paper, divided, yet fused together. This went on for sometime, proceeded by the presence of a bare, rolled tube of cardboard".

@raphaelward1711 Год назад

One wavelength you mean to say. Not waveform. Presumably

@jaxager 2 года назад

I just got mine yesterday. So far... I'm hating this thing. Using the sequencer is beyond tedious. I know this little thing does a ton of shit. I'm just going to have to figure it out. I'm coming from using the Roland MC-101, which is easy as hell to use. I have not tried sampling or hooking up external gear to control it yet. I haven't had the opportunity. I better grow to like it because I bought it used off of Reverb so no returning it for me. I've learned a valuable lesson though - don't buy used gear until you've made damn sure you it's something you want. I will give it this though - it sounds amazing. Whatever DAC they are using kicks ass.

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Год назад

This is a "musicians" sampler, performing (playing in the sequences) instead of using a step sequencer. We musicians find all step sequencers from any device EXTREMELY tedious and frustrating because we have to program in all the articulations and note values. When, instead, we are skilled to simply play in the sequence with any note value and be done with it in a few seconds.

@istvantoth7431 Год назад

You are not then only one pal. I am interested in these two, I want to love them, but based on all the reviews on RU-vid, I am really not convinced that I should spend the cash. Also I hate USB powered devices. Every last one of them. It's such a cheap way to save on production costs.

@user-qf4zs6qj4c 3 года назад

"And this is bullshit..." :)))

@Decoy303 3 года назад

So USB powered sound devices just need too stop being made if they are going to create unnecessary noise floor. That in itself just hurts my wallet.

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

These boxes here don’t have any noise. It was the headphone amplifier from his sounddevice recorder. False alarm!

@flipflip4537 3 года назад

Mine was noisy unless I used a separate power then it was fine.

@MartinStimming 3 года назад

I agree, but not for those devices. they are one of the rare ones that got it rght!

@noahsiekmann4275 3 года назад

You can add a ferrite clip on isolator to your USB cable and the ground noise disappears. The noise issue isn't with the black or blue box. It is an issue of cheap USB cables or USB cables with out the ground noise isolator built in.

@starwars007oele Год назад

Tesla! Sexy? Omg

@DayflightTrok 3 месяца назад

Cat Music

@SebastianBeyer 3 года назад

Boa, für die Kohle dann doch lieber Elektron?! :) hahhaha 👋👋👋 I can't handle it. Aber mal ehrlich, der Mann kann schon sehr sehr gut mit gear umgehen aber wenn schon stimming struggelt und härter menüdived als bei elektron sind die Kisten leider bei mir raus.

@musictalk-tech 3 года назад

Definitiv einfacher zu bedienen als ne Elektron Kiste beim ersten mal. Martin benutzt beides ;-)

@SebastianBeyer 3 года назад

@@musictalk-tech weiß ich. Ich fand den digitakt (mein erster Elektr) recht intuitiv. Hatte aber auch vorm Kauf 1000 Videos geschaut :)