Stock Market vs Property - Fastest To $1,000,000

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Which is the better investment, the stock market or investing in property? Which one is the fastest way to becoming a millionaire? Which will give you a better retirement? Find out in today's video!
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For some people the stock market is obviously the best choice. For other people, property and real estate is clearly the better investment. So which is better? Which is faster to make money and get to the one million dollar mark? Which is going to give you more income at retirement?
Now the reason this topic is always furiously debated between investors is because comparing stocks and property is actually very difficult, as there are many different ways you could invest in each. With stocks you could:
Pick individual stocks
Dividend stocks
Index funds
With property it could be:
A single family home
Apartments
REITs
You could have a 20% deposit, 50% deposit, a zero down deal!
So to keep things simple, I will be comparing a simple 3-bed buy to let house, with a 20% deposit versus a classic S&P 500 index fund. And I have to say, the results did really surprise me. One crushed the performance of the other.
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@NathanHQ Год назад

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@christianalawal3695 19 дней назад

I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.

@Freddie-09 19 дней назад

I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I’d suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.

@christianalawal3695 19 дней назад

@@Freddie-09 That's actually quite impressive, I could use some Info on your FA, I am looking to make a change on my finances this year as well

@Freddie-09 19 дней назад

@@christianalawal3695 My advisor is Victoria Carmen Santaella;

@Freddie-09 19 дней назад

You can look her up online

@SantiagoWyatt- 19 дней назад

@@Freddie-09 The crazy part is that those advisors are probably outperforming the market and raising good returns but some are charging fees over fees that drain your portfolio. Is this the case with yours too?

@Daneilchirs 16 дней назад

I think investors should always put their cash to work, especially In 2024, we'll start to see more market diversification. I'm hoping to invest about $350k of my savings in stocks against next year. Hope to make millions in 2024

@myrle-v4g 16 дней назад

Since risk is at an all-time high right now, perhaps you should be a little more patient and return when it has decreased. Alternatively, you can consult a trained financial expert for strategy.

@shanisonia 16 дней назад

Yes true, I have been in touch with a brokerage Advisor. With an initial starting reserve of $80k, my advisor chooses the entry and exit commands for my portfolio, which has grown to approximately $550k.

@shizue-w7n 16 дней назад

I’ve been looking to switch to an advisor for a while now. Any help pointing me to who your advisor is?

@shanisonia 16 дней назад

Angela Lynn Shilling is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

@shizue-w7n 16 дней назад

I searched for her full name online, found her page, and sent an email to schedule a meeting. Hopefully, she responds soon. Thank you

@yad2917 7 месяцев назад

Lots wrong with this comparison. It’s actually garbage. What about property taxes? Unexpected expenses and repairs, interest payments? If you have the upfront cash, then stock market is better. If you don’t, then real estate is probably better but that still depends… Either way, most rich educated people invest in the market and use real estate to diversify their portfolio. It’s the most logical move

@martymo77 2 месяца назад

Agreed, interest payments on 250000 nothing to just dismiss in video. Bad video

@KikoY8 2 месяца назад

I totally agree, Properry management fee is already 10% of gross revenuen plus interest, mortgage (i find this as non spendable due it goes to equity instead), property tax, insurance, maintenance and repairs, and don't forget when the tenant leaves, you have a loss of income which means you have to pay out of your pocket for instead of from the revenue. There are times it could take months to fund a new tenant. worst case if the tenant don't pay and it takes time to evict them.

@joshhushed5890 7 месяцев назад

So much knowledge! Absolutely free! I was never taught anything about money, I am praying and working to change that. I am 46 no retirement no savings because I made a lot of mistakes when I started investing, trying to correct that now. Already have a few thousand$ saved up to invest for long term. I would like to know what advice you could give to start my investing journey. Listening to you gives me inspiration and wisdom. Thank you so much!

@genavazquez2943 7 месяцев назад

Just buy low sell high. Stick with a good company by either not selling when it's going lower and/or buying more at that time. Almost always the good well managed companies will come back strong at some point. The other is to get yourself a financial-advisor that can provide you with entry and exit points on the shares/ETF you focus on.

@FrederickBlein 7 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot for sharing man, I just looked 'John Desmond Heppolette' up on the web and I would say he really has an impressive background in investing. I will write a text a shortly.

@Ford203 7 месяцев назад

Glad I stumbled on this comment 😊

@ivymadanhennion8108 7 месяцев назад

This is a good recommendation. My first experience with him gave me the assurance that has made me to invest without fear of loosing

@Fiammanapolitani 7 месяцев назад

It's remarkable to have faith in someone who can consistently deliver profits under a circumstances, and they never disappoint. I trust John Desmond Heppolette, implicitly, and since trading with him, it's been nothing but victories...

@mayacho4910 Год назад

The key to big returns is not big moving stocks. It's managing risk in relationship to reward. Having the correct size on and turning your edge as many times as necessary to reach your goal. That holds true from long term investing to day trading

@theresagarcia1218 Год назад

May I ask which stocks are good? I've been looking at a few different ones but want others opinions as well.

@mayacho4910 Год назад

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@theresagarcia1218 Год назад

@@mayacho4910 Are you in touch with a Financial-Adviser ? is your experience much better than investing on your own?

@mayacho4910 Год назад

@@theresagarcia1218 Yes I am in touch with a Financial Adviser and for the past 6months, I've been able to stay afloat the market crashes and I've watched my portfolio grow by over 40% these past few months.

@theresagarcia1218 Год назад

@@mayacho4910 Wow, that's remarkable, who is your FA and how do you suggest I reach out to him/her?

@shep68 3 года назад

Not covered is the major headaches involved being a landlord. Continual upkeep, wear and tear, dirty tenants, non-paying tenants, difficult eviction procedures, and on and on. I’m sure they make great investments but comes at the price of your time and sanity. No thanks, stocks please!

@akprice8242 Год назад

Great point. Also the contrast to refinancing is a drop in the stock market, making your investments on sale. Buy more for when the market rebounds.

@jordanbatka033 11 месяцев назад

If that is your sole profession then it would be alright I suppose

@lionel170 7 месяцев назад

Have you thought about hiring a property manager?

@MauriceB-zn5pv 6 месяцев назад

@@lionel170They eat at your returns…might as well choose another investment at that point.

@thedustincrdv Месяц назад

Agreed it’s not for the weak.

@Otagobase Год назад

You wouldn’t just invest $50k and call it quits for 30 years. If you’re reinvesting in real estate by borrowing from the equity then naturally you’d add to your stocks as well. In that event, stocks will destroy real estate over 30 years. I was doing both but have concluded that stocks are the far better long term outcome and am just keeping one house for a roof over my head and throwing everything else into stocks

@seppy3272 5 месяцев назад

i knew before even watching this shit he was going to pull some bullshit like that

2 месяца назад

Can you elaborate on the numbers you used for this conclusion?

@M.O.Jasmin 2 месяца назад

Exactly. Let's use the simple example of taking the $843 per month for the mortgage (like in the video), but invest it each month in the S&P 500. $50k + $843 each month at 10% per year gives ~$2.6M after 30 years. But you have to calculate that if you don't live in a house, you have to live somewhere! It costs money. BUT! When we have a mortgage, we pay interest! So there too we lose money. This video is not complete.

@williamanderson327 3 года назад

If you borrowed the money for 250k of stocks instead of 50k it would be a fair comparison. Round 6, the amount it is worth after 30 years would then be about 41/2 million for stocks delivering you an asset of about 5 times properties'. Passive income would then be 250 a month and growing at 10% as opposed to 3%. Maintenance, repairs and council rates would leave you with next to no passive income from the property each month. Conclusion, this comparison is deeply flawed.

@Peter-zv4dx 2 года назад

If u borrowed 250k for shares , shares would be miles ahead at 10% rate of return. One would have over 6million in 30 years. Something a property can’t achieve.

@ags911 5 месяцев назад

@@Peter-zv4dxThe difference is you’ll be borrowing an unsecured loan on a more risky investment. If the market is stagnant or there is a crash it’s a recipe for disaster when you factor in the interest.

@cloudyblaze7916 8 месяцев назад

I'll choose stocks everyday. I foresaw this current housing crisis and sold my property. I then put it in the market. That was late February. I've lost more than 40% of my portfolio's value. It makes me really sad. How can I turn this situation around?

@stephenpotter21 8 месяцев назад

This is really sad. If you're not who understands strategies to invest in the market, why not seek a financial advisor to help you grow your portfolio?

@ericmendels 8 месяцев назад

I agree. Having an investment advisor is the best way to go about the stock market right now. I’ve been in touch with a coach for a while now mostly and I made over 95% profit within about seven months or so.

@victorlaranjahal 8 месяцев назад

That's impressive! I could really use the expertise of your advisor. Could you recommend who you work with, please?

@ericmendels 8 месяцев назад

The advisor I'm in touch with is *Sharon Louise Count.* There are other good FAs online too, if you look around.

@gregorywhem 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this. I'm gonna check her out and try to reach her. I hope she gets back to me before my portfolio is completely gone.

@TrevorForeverful 3 года назад

Love how you make things easy to understand!!

@unc0mm0n2 Год назад

Easy and biased.

@Skygirl777 3 года назад

That calculation only works if $ 250,000 house/condo goes to $ 1,000,000 after 30 years. That’s not always the case. My friend bough a condo 21 years ago for $ 280,000 in suburb of Chicago. Today 21 years later the price is $ 300,000 Investing in the 500 most powerful and successful companies in the world is 1000 times better. If you buy 500 houses most likely the price will go up 5 % a year. If you buy 1 house/ condo there is no guaranties. It is a comparison to buying a single stock. The price may go up, down or no change.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

But then there are also examples of houses going up 10% per year in certain places or countries...and depending on the time frame,,, stocks have only returned 5%...so it's tricky... I guess this just gives a high level overview for each 👍

@johnathonlivingston7573 3 года назад

It’s hard to measure the impact on a career that owning property could have. The time commitment, energy, and stress required for buying and managing property could negatively affect some people’s career whereas others may be unaffected in that regard. I personally would rather put as much into my career as possible without other distractions and spend my other time decompressing and enjoying life while passively investing in a way that is mathematically almost certain to provide financial independence.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Solid logic mate

@rishilahamed3369 Год назад

Mmmm pop

@hiyoutube9204 Год назад

That’s why you have property managers

@thealcobies 10 месяцев назад

@@hiyoutube9204 property managers wil only help you to get tenants handle the communications but the decision making, when something is broken they will ask for you before getting quotes or will ask you to get your own tradie if they dont have one. It all depends on the property too. If its an old property the wear and tear is too much that as if you dont have a property manager

@hkloss11 Месяц назад

@@hiyoutube9204 that charge you 10% as management fees, and call their mates to do repairs on your property, rather than you, yourself finding tradesmen at cheaper rates, and materials

@chicago9458 11 месяцев назад

Dude if you are actually managing to increase the value of the property i.e. maintenance, remodeling. refinance to cashout and invest on another property then it’s not passive income. You are working!! If you actively manage and regularly trade honing your skills and knowledge of the market for 30 years and something you completely left out the snowballing effect of dividends reinvested. Stocks would easily beat investing on properties.

@SteZenn 3 года назад

Another Fab vid: I laugh and learn. The best combination. I really like you. You made a clear, precise, and entertained vid.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

@hajiimpressions8113 2 года назад

I always appreciate your videos, they are so informative. Great ideas, giving me food for thought.

@perilousb0y 3 года назад

i believe you can influence the stocks by buying more stocks through the 30 years

@guvya 3 года назад

To compare accurately the stocks alternative should also be leveraged 4 to 1, and refinanced later.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Interesting take... I guess this is more designed for a beginner to follow. Nice point though 👍

@lukespelman8862 3 года назад

One thing I would like to have seen in here is the diversification benefit. I personally own a property that I live in, I have previously owned a rental, and I/my wife (if the taxman is asking) have shares. One of the benefits of shares is it is quite easy to diversify yourself. Property ties up a lot of capital, and there can be factors outside of your control that totally change your outlook (change in supply/demand), or things like accidental or malicious damage (which I found a constant issue), and also the balancing around laws and the rights of the tenant. The fact that property takes up a lot more capital and cash flow means I see it as a higher potential reward & higher chance of financial constraint as well.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes all great points but impossible to include everything for both investment... this was just to give an overview of the returns with a typical example. Nice points though 👍

@mjwmontgomery 2 года назад

You need a home to live in, but in my experience dividend stocks are better than real estate for investing.

@eilonwoolf1129 2 года назад

Great video and insights!

@Alesini100 3 года назад

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing! 😊

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Thank you! Cheers! 🙏

@amirsinno5833 3 года назад

Thank you very informative.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Thanks Amir 🙏 glad you enjoyed mate

@daveangelovici9486 5 месяцев назад

The problem with real estate is that your return which is lower than stocks and around 4%-5% will be affected when you can't find someone to rent it and lose money due to mortgage payments or property tax. Being called from time to time by the renter to fix things, after one renter leaves you need to refresh the apartment, you need to renovate it every X amount of years if you want to keep it attractive and rent at your desired price and not to mention, some renters stop paying, don't leave and cause damages so get a lawyer ready. Yes, the value shouldl raise with the years but its basically updating according to the real estate market so your purchase power stays more or less, the same, at least in that area. It was just important to state that from my experience

@TheFfabinhoo 3 месяца назад

It's called the "hidden costs"

@RobCLynch 3 года назад

I've written a couple of books and the royalty income from these has been going into my global trackers since 2017 - while the trackers have been running since 2005. My only concern with property is having a sitting tenant default on rent payments - though I suppose a dividend could easily be suspended by XYZ company. Interesting compararon - thanks.

@jimmyjim7926 3 года назад

Very good information great video as usual, I would like to find out more about how to find the right and best index funds.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi Jim - awesome, I have covered that and will certainly do more on index funds. Thanks 🙏

@vic98765 8 месяцев назад

Wrong. You can borrow against blue chip stocks. Also factor how much interest you are paying to the bank in 30 years for property. Finally factor tenants destroying your rental property. I will need to disagree.

@spetho36590 Год назад

Does this take into account that reinvesting the dividends, and dollar cost averaging further stock investments, against weekly mortgage repayments. My investment property was negative geared for 5-10 years before turning positive. I agree that after 20 years my investment property has been awesome but I wonder with the same weekly DCA as my mortgage repayment would there be much difference, plus my property needs some renovations after 20 years which will be costly.

@stephen6262 3 года назад

My own view if you can pay off property then you can decide when the time is right to sell takes off some pressure off. Plus also keep pumping money into isas and pension your in a good position for an average person.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Nice tips Stephen...thanks for sharing 👍

@cmyim819 3 года назад

Objection! One of the key benefits for the stock is “liquidity” 🤪🤪 it's easier to get back money when you need to. But property... 🙈

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes fair point 👍

@videogyujtemeny 3 года назад

Liqudity has disadvantage too. You can easily sell a stock before bullish times and loose potential profit. Property is better for amateurs, they can't jump in and out so quickly so the property has chance to rich higher price in years.

@isthisandy 3 года назад

Also "liquidity" doesn't really factor in to how fast you can get to 1mil. The categories he covered were correct :).

@olamansson2727 3 года назад

There are expenses related to property which directly don’t benefit an increased value such as base maintenance costs. What if the water heater blows, etc? That results in additional time, money and effort which is important to have a part of the calculation. Maybe you have your own house and need to maintain two? Then you need to start having employees and the ecosystem grows. Just saying. Like you said yourself it’s hard to compare, it’s like apples vs pears.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes fair points..., there is so much more that goes into property for sure... but the end result was like $2 Million right? so a few thousands in costs wouldn't really effect the end result too much 👍

@domingodelgado3944 Год назад

The water heater goes out like once in 10 years it’s like a couple 100s 😂. What happens when the market crashes and your stocks crash so you can’t withdraw as much?

@Chribeify 3 года назад

Investing in stocks, and making a real estate business on the side - *Mind-blown*

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

haha awesome 🙏

@GG-qx5uc 3 года назад

That's my plan!

@johnbaljian295 3 года назад

UNFORTUATLY , there are some cruel points missing such as : - regarding "Capital Gains" we can achieve much higher gains with stocks using margin. - "Influence": sound good for properties only on paper, because we are paying interest rates every month , but there is no GUARANTEE that the property will generate rental income every month. therefore there are lots of points missing in favor of stocks.

@johnbaljian295 3 года назад

@🄰🄳🄼🄸🄽 Don't try that again !

@cumbrianhomestead 3 года назад

good video Nathan - we have gone into property (in only a very small way) and so far (since 2013) we've done okay probably achieving 5-6% net yield. Compared to 0.5% savings it makes sense. I'd like you to do an tutorial on index stock investments please. ATB Woody

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Awesome, congrats on taking the action and getting a good result 👏🏼

@mr.dividend.investor 3 года назад

WOW! Your channel has just exploded! So happy for you my friend. Big liked #478. Aloha 🤙

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

haha thanks mate 🙏 Aloha

@ibrahimciftci9599 3 года назад

Round 4 was wrong because there is no passive income in real estate. You have to stay active and be available. Even if you have a property manager you still have to manage the property manager!

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi - I see your point and it is kind of true..there is no real passive income... but in the eye of the law..that type of income is passive income and it is taxed at a different rate to earned income 👍

@ibrahimciftci9599 3 года назад

@@NathanHQ but not globally

@new2property 3 года назад

You had me worried at one stage in this Video Nathan, but as initially expected and thankfully property takes the winning position. Great video, not easy to do, well done.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

haha no, I found it crushed the performance of stocks.... though there is much more work involved than a simple index tracker for sure

@new2property 3 года назад

@@NathanHQ your not wrong, I`ve got some door hinges, a fridge and a roof to sort next week. I`d rather be sat in the sun with a beer but that's the price you pay with the higher return investment I guess.

@user-mk8eq6dl8t 10 месяцев назад

Great video❤

@foreverfree2624 5 месяцев назад

love it, thank you

@langleydolphin1826 3 года назад

As long you invest your money But most people go to the pub and drink it away or gamble it away

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes, totally right... nice point 👍

@jjfarmer1 Год назад

If you get a property manager that alleviates alot of those concerns. Also i saw a lot of people talk about the damage a renter can do. Well thats a tax right off. Cash flow is the smallest part of owning property.

@MyDreamside Год назад

you can leverage stocks returns too.

@HS-PGA 3 года назад

I would take the net gain from property and invest it into a index fund ... passive building more passive

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Good strategy I think... thanks for sharing 👍

@Peter-zv4dx 2 года назад

@Blake no. Shares has a better return especially when you have big dollars from gains on property. If u put $250k in shares and bought a property outright for $250k shares will win in the end. Its the leverage that makes property better.

@mrbabyears Год назад

Increases in home owner insurance isn't mentioned. Seems it's a good idea to invest in both.

@randallburns5704 3 года назад

I've been a property investor. However, if someone was starting out today: I would say go with stocks to start and only get a property when you have about 1/2 the purchase price in your stock fund. At that point you can use a margin loan for the down payment and only be borrowing against 40% the value of the stock, you are unlikely to have to deal with a margin call--and even if you do you can take out a second on the house to cover it. The combination of the house+stock is a much more powerful combination than either on their own.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Interesting strategy Randall. thanks for sharing 👍

@randallburns5704 3 года назад

@@NathanHQ The thing is: stocks and real estate are often counter cyclical. When one is up, the other is down. If you own both, you run much less chance of big overall fluctuation in your net worth. Some folks get nervous because trading stocks ouside an IRA/401K, you are potentially subject to capital gain tax. The thing is: sooner or later many small business people will have a lean year in which you need money. That is a fine time to cash in an index fund, which is of course liquid. I made a big mistake getting overly extended into property early on and NOT investing in stocks when i had a chance. Stuff like Robinhood make this much easier now.

@holycow3355 3 года назад

@@randallburns5704 "NOT investing in stocks when i had a chance" Don't blame you. ETFs weren't popular then until last 10 yrs ago, investment properties were the only option, stock picking will win only for those very wise/knowledgeable or very lucky, only 4% companies out of the tens of thousands responsible for generating most of the wealth on the sharemarket.

@randallburns5704 3 года назад

@@holycow3355 there were discount S and P 500 funds even 30 years ago--but not the diversity of funds that are around now. The thing is: I hadn't even started reading up on this area back then.

@dronestarmedia4341 Год назад

Brilliant!

@aubrian 2 месяца назад

Informative. I’d also like to include selling options (Covered Calls & Cash Secured Puts). Roughly with a $50k account in the stock market, you could bring in an additional $750 - $2k/month. But of course, the caveat is that you must own 100 shares as collateral (or cash equivalent to 100 shares).

@SteZenn 3 года назад

Hi Nathan. I would love you to do a comparison between Real Estate investing vs REIT. Please, my fabulous Nathan?

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Great suggestion! will have to add it to the list... basically, with REITs, you don't get 2 powerful strategies. Leverage (using the banks money to get rich) & Depreciation (big tax deductions) 👍

@RobertRyanThompson 3 месяца назад

Also, not calculated in is the time spent on the properties versus the extra time you would have to earn extra money and reinvest into the stock market

@MrCrowder31 Год назад

Also in this was a basic index. You can own stocks and take dividends and reinvest them to buy more of that same stock, speeding up the process of compound interest. Now here’s a kicker, you could refinance and take that capital and put it into a stock, say like Apple that on average in the last 10 years had a rate of return of 28%. At just half of that is 14%, more than 10%. There are so many different avenues! Your best bet is to do both!😊

@thealcobies Год назад

Dont forget the insurances, life insurances, LMI, landlord insurances. Building insurances, management fee etc. so basically, stocks won on that part😊

@lionel170 7 месяцев назад

At least if something bad happens to the property, the insurance will cover the damage. However, if a company goes bankrupt, there's no insurance to cover the loss in stock 😅

@fekermedia68 Год назад

Thank you really was helpful ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@sinan8097 Год назад

What about another comparison "Opportunity" with property because there are so many options and distress sellers, there are is an opportunity to buy cheaper than market value.

@JusdoinstuF 3 года назад

i like the stocks + side business play too. i want to own rental property too.

@francesca.pellegrino 3 года назад

Interesting comparison! Having grown up around the Real Estate industry, it is definitely a business. My dad thinks I'm insane for investing in stocks (outside of his 401K, he's 100% in Real Estate), but it's my down payment money for the next property (already own a house). Why lose value due to inflation when you can invest it in great companies that will easily outpace a measly savings account?

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi Francesca - It's smart to put the money to work...only downside risk is a crash which could last 1-2 years

@francesca.pellegrino 3 года назад

That is true, there is risk with any decision.

@grynocologist 6 месяцев назад

The cost of upkeep and things breaking over a 30 years period must be considered.property taxes and refinance fees plus closing costs also...stocks all you to just buy and forget it and free up the most valuable thing you have which is time.

@Dantai Год назад

I think you gotta factor in expenses of home ownership, the MER if stocks is factored into the ROI there

@jordiortega4436 8 месяцев назад

Fantastic!

@williamanderson327 3 года назад

For passive income What about repairs, council rates and maintenance

@hcp0scratch 3 года назад

OPPORTUNITY COST! THAT is the single variable making stocks better L/T. Real estate is perhaps for those with more discretionary time and enjoying reals estate issues. OPPORTUNITY COST is highly underrated!

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes, great point 👍

@shaynemosten7794 Год назад

Can you make a video of what you think is the best stocks to buy now in the 2nd half of 2023?

@Fatboylo1980 6 месяцев назад

Buy stocks, buy property if you can get a hella deal and flip, forget tenants, did it for 25 years. Made a lot selling my property but if I really sit down and think about, it wasn’t worth it.

@jaimanohar Год назад

House property value also depreciate after 25 years.. Same time some stocks gives thousands time returns. I believe Stocks wins. (But Keep in mind the rent of the house is major factor what can be earned in 25 years).

@brianshishnia3278 6 месяцев назад

5:10 Expenses= Mortgage.....TAXES & INSURANCE also? Also, even two years ago few if anyone could get a 3% rate on a loan for a rental property.

@spirosstamatopoulos8997 3 года назад

Capital Gains round fails to consider financing. Interest exp lowers your returns

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi - the ultimate value of the property isn't impacted by interest payments on your mortgage though?

@DanMicDeS 8 месяцев назад

Nice video

@stephen6262 3 года назад

They both look good depending on where your property is. But also if its ftse 100 it's has not looked good

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi Stephen... yes, there are so many if's and but's with each... but at least it gives a high level overview for each. Have a nice Sunday :)

@danielcollinsYT Год назад

Are we going to ignore the fact that you have to pay almost double of the loan total to the bank after that 30 years because of interest? Also, stocks are also compounding at double the rate and what about if we reinvest the dividend back into stocks? You will only start getting paid by the house if you physically move out into another house, and rent the original house out but this is AFTER 30 YEARS! The house is a liability up until you get renters in it

@MrCleanOC 3 месяца назад

I own both you have good points but regarding the real estate you forgot to deduct the cost of having renters, the cost of maintaining the home the increase in insurance, and property tax, and if you have an HOA homes don't always increase in price...I can go on and on rentals are good but stocks are passive long term

@Winston0Boogie 5 месяцев назад

Wait something is missing here. You can borrow against your stocks as well and leverage that to buy more stocks. Something feels like it's missing here.

@domingodelgado3944 Год назад

No to mention when you pay off that house and you rent it out even more cash flow.

@deandemakis5077 Год назад

How can you give the advantage to homes for being worth $200k more when you went $200k into debt to buy? At best it is a tie with same profit and even that is generous because the house investment is 5x greater

@Happy-go-luckyno 17 часов назад

You can get collateralised loans against stock assets without having to sell, allowing ownership to continue and appreciate further until eventually equity appreciation dwarfs the loan...that's like remortgage of stocks no?

@crypto-investor7238 4 месяца назад

You forgot to include the property taxes, maintenance cost and insurance when you calculate cash-flow for a property.

@frankthetank8552 3 года назад

Its always a leverage question

@yassin_eldeeb 11 месяцев назад

> propery is a buisness, renters are clients Yes, BUT you can't guarantee your clients to be paying for 25 years for two businesses (two houses), there will always be months or years without people renting your property, AND in that case, that's a very bad situation, the rent should be going to the mortgage, but you don't have it. how would you pay it? your own money! I wished you clarify more on this, but great video overall!

@holycow3355 3 года назад

A lot of leeches in property : spruikers, council, land tax, property manager, ripoff tradesmen, not to mention shit tenants, one sided govt regulations, the list go on & on !!!!

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes, great points...you certainly have to earn those extra returns for sure 👍

@gameolife4381 3 года назад

Not a fair comparison, I think. You neglected to consider the costs involved with your mortgages and refinancing costs... as it stands, your calculation assumes you paid off both mortgages for free, and the refinancing cost is $0. No interest paid, and no principal paid... free home equity!

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Hi - well the interest is being paid by the tenants. And yes, all the small costs were left out to keep it simple and give a high level overview for each. It's virtually impossible to do a like-for-like comparison.

@MrMarkEdward 5 месяцев назад

I could go on and on. Some people love real estate investing but from an intelligent standpoint it is not the best investment.

@trekkame 2 года назад

I think you need to look at your numbers again as they are way off in round 4. You say rent return on property trumps stocks per month, but you only took into account a mortgage repayment on the property, leaving a high monthly net return. I have an investment property and pay: council rates, land tax, property manger fees, property insurance, maintenance, tax, etc ect every month, and these do add up. Once you deduct these costs from the net return off the rent, the figure you quote is in reality far less each month. Not knocking your video, but you seem to over-simplify the true property investment costs. I must say you do have a nice video production quality 👍🏻

@Allocator-ir9kv 3 года назад

Very good food for thought. I have a BTL but it gives me so much more hassle than an index fund investment.

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes, exactly right.... it will make you more money but you have to work for it lol 👍 congrats on your BTL though. Great problems to have 👍

@carlyndolphin Год назад

I own BTL, but I’m slowly selling them and investing in index funds. Less hassle

@FT86TT 7 месяцев назад

No maintenance on Real Estate?

@Groundpounder25 11 месяцев назад

Real life is different than paper… They say you’re supposed to count on 1/2 of whatever profits (because of maintenance) you expect from a rental property and I’ve found that to be true. You also would have to put in $100k in the house around about the 15 year mark to keep it up to standards of the comps then maybe even doing that again around year 30 especially if you need it appraised for refinancing. Also for every period of uncertainty in stock market during a recession it’s usually preceded with real estate down trends. Then add on I’ve never gone 10 years let alone 30 without some sort of major repairs not just updates. It all adds up and just not a concern with stocks. Also did you adjust your profits from the refinanced home? In order to pull out $65k in 5yrs they likely extended you back out to 30 and increased your mortgage payment unless there was a substantial decrease in rates your payment would be higher.

@M.O.Jasmin 2 месяца назад

Let's use the simple example of taking the $843 per month for the mortgage (like in the video), but invest it each month in the S&P 500. $50k + $843 each month at 10% per year gives ~$2.6M after 30 years. But you have to calculate that if you don't live in a house, you have to live somewhere! It costs money. BUT! When we have a mortgage, we pay interest! So there too we lose money. This video doesn't show everything you need to know.

@jasonscalzo9597 Год назад

This assumes that the market continues growing at an average of 10% per year, which may not happen. We’ve been in a recovering market, and we aren’t so much anymore, which has drawn up the average return. It’s good to diversify. Invest in BOTH stocks and real estate to truly grow your empire!

@StiIgar 2 года назад

Interesting video, but a lot of your analysis is simplistic. You've not even mentioned taxes on selling stocks or taxes on property income, even using a flat 20% would provide some more accuracy. Your final analysis on retirement is completely wrong. You've said "4% rule" on stocks, which you've said is a withdrawal not an income. Rent on a property is an income not a withdrawal and all your capital is retained. Your last point on leveraging is good but you've not mentioned anything about maintenance over 30 years or re-mortgaging fees. All my points make a huge difference on the end result

@whereverirome9532 3 месяца назад

Don't forget to add insurance/taxes/HOA/property management fee, and load of headaches to property.

@aniljang 4 месяца назад

What about NNN properties?

@bobtailsquid 10 месяцев назад

At least with stocks you're not going to get a phone call 6:00 p.m. on a Friday night saying the hot water system blew

@ather1276 3 месяца назад

another benefit of real estate is get a place to live, if u invest in stocks however u will have to rent a place to live

@MrMarkEdward 5 месяцев назад

2) 3% home loan is a thing of the past. Its probably double that now. Also, When a tenant moves out you are paying full mortgage until a new tenant moves in. This will cancel out months of that "passive income"

@thechosenone9182 22 часа назад

Stock market can be a business as well. Your customers would be the people you sell signals to.

@rodrigolopez6918 10 месяцев назад

I don't think the last point is accurate . I can have multiples stock options too . Like. multiples houses

@TheCuratorIsHere 3 года назад

Capital gain tax on principal place of residence = ZERO

@NathanHQ 3 года назад

Yes, a great benefit to your own property for sure. Thanks for sharing 👍

@elvismark5172 Год назад

Since the beginning of the year, I have purchased a few equities, but nothing significant. Why am I being so unkind to this? The fact that others in my field make six figures each piece, nevertheless, motivates me to want to be the first member of my polygamous family to earn a million dollars. I am fully aware of the expense of working more to get more money.

@alexanderjames3043 Год назад

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@oscarjiron6974 Год назад

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@jakeketelle1894 7 месяцев назад

Do both. Hedge your bets

@nidalgo 13 дней назад

Hi thanks for the video. If i may, the assumptions are not accurate and you are not comparing apples to apples. You should compare all what you pay for the house (250k+mortgage interests+maintenance fees) to the same amount in stocks, not just to 50k. And in this case, stocks win with a huge edge

@halit6407 Год назад

Look for Turkey. We had the opportunity to invest there. I feel so lucky my father did it. Edit: I am not talking about stock market since it is risky but the property invesment in Turkey is nowhere near the any other country you could imagine. For example; Yalıkavak Akyaka Bodrum and more