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What a guy! Incredibly articulate in a second language. Combines ruthless focus, tenacity and intelligence. I’d love to see him win another monument. It’ll be when we’re not expecting it but stand up guy.
hearing the thought processes and amount of strategic thinking and self understanding is, while not unexpected, still amazing. Thats what it takes to be at the top - you can hear similar from F1 drivers
All he's describing is periodisation - this isnt ground breaking. Start very long and slow + very short and fast .... and over the season gradually work towards the middle from both ends.
And periodisation only works to about 6-8 weeks before you max out, which many amateurs don’t need. They want season long fitness across multiple distances and challenges hence z3/4 work. If you’re targeting a specific goal event then yes periodise
I always thought about it like stretching a sweater out. You don’t stretch the whole thing in one go, you stretch out each arm then the body then the width.
i don't feel i agree about the training idea. the notion of training lactate clearance is shaky from what i can tell. lactate is not the enemy, so much so that the body is happy to allow the liver to make it when we eat a lot of carbs. adaptations from training are complex. clearing lactate may improve as a result of other changes going on, and there are times when short efforts are good, other times when long efforts are required. context is king. great interview though!
Correct. When we listen to training tips from pro riders is fundamental to keep in mind that they have a superior engine and genetic to cope with training. Applying pro riders rules to the average cyclist is out of sense
Correct. When we listen to training tips from pro riders is fundamental to keep in mind that they have a superior engine and genetic to cope with training. Applying pro riders rules to the average cyclist is out of sense
Having a very efficient engine with zone 2 training helps massively with high zone 4/5 short intervals because when you're in the recovery set, the lactate is being exhausted ( got rid of) - when you repeat these frequently you're pushing your bodies ability to flush lactate quickly and more efficiently.. over time this means you can go harder for short intervals, recover and go again... It's incredibly powerful
Wouldn't necessarily take his training advice that seriously, but his description of group dynamics and racing ftw are great. Cycling is crazy when it comes to the potential of the 'not strongest' rider winning.
Maybe the intervals at competition speed (that might be treshold, or maybe faster or slower)? Frida Karlson is the best 50 km skier. She told that she did three 45 minute intervals at competition speed (50 km skiing she probably does at ca 2 or 2,5 hours). Competition speed is different in different sports and distanses. In cykling there are several competitionspeeds, it is transport speed, breakawayspeed, long and short climb speed, sprint. My guess is that for bikers its good to do very different intervals, both in speed and duration.
His ten minute intervals are not just a full effort 10 minute time trail at AT threshold. His ten minutes involve a variety of efforts that mimic full efforts at races without killing him physically and mentally. He seems focused on clearing lactate and minimizing fatigue with breaks during the efforts, it's nothing new. 30-30 style some days, other longer for aerobic capacity. It seems about going hard in a smart sustainable way, not just going flat out. Others might chime in with a better/shorter explanation.
Basically have short and steep ramps with short rest for 10 minutes - (power profile like a shark's dorsal fin) - what you're training isn't actually the steady state power but your body's ability to flush lactic acid more efficiently. The spikes teach your body how to flush better without being a mind numbingly tough workout.
I guess it is needed to know how it feels and be able to feed while you are doing it but other than that it's not the best way to train it. Sprinting is the same. You train the different components individually and before practicing combining them.
It's a different set of efforts for a different goal. Doing VO2Max efforts at short intervals stresses the anerobic system and builds power/strenthg outside of your aerobic zone. I.e sprinters benefit from this because their effort is "all out" at the end of the race - in the same way that if you trained doing 30/30's repeatedly maybe 1-2 times a week and you did a group ride with your pals a month /six weeks later, when you got to a short hill/rise and hit the launch button, you'd be on the gas and be able to recover quickly - just with that one effort and put your mates in trouble. ;)
As a research methodologist there is zero evidence that this method works zero. Another example of this is altitude training which at best has mixed results and may actually do no good at all due the fact that at altitude one cannot train as hard. Athletes are notorious believers in arcane methods. One athlete Greg Lemond had wonderful help with this and to this day the book he created is largely followed by the peloton as a proven method
No idea what a research methodologist is ... sounds like an appeal authority to me. Anyway, Dylan Johnson quotes plenty of scientific evidence to support Mohoric's approach, even in athletes only training 5-7 hours a week: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ju3McjlSoAg.html So not sure when you became the definitive source of whether there is or isn't evidence of whether this works or not
