Dude, its none of your business what people do with their guitars. I re-decaled a fender guitar to say "dick" in a fender font. Did i disrespect fender fans? Maybe, but do i care? No. Its my guitar and I'll do whatever. If someone tries to pass off a squier as a fender, then screw em. But most people who print fender on their squiers just do it because squiers are stereotyped as shit guitars, even though some squier series like VM, CV, and contemp are really good. Let people to their own devices and mind your own business, i dont get why you're so mad about this. I broke the neck of my tele and bought a custom neck with no decal on it. Didnt hesitate to put a fender decal on it. Sure its a fender guitar with a non fender neck, but who gives a shit? The new neck was arguably better than the fender neck, and even if not, its MY guitar and ill sharpen it and use it as a battle axe if i want to. You just have to know how to differentiate between squiers and fenders when buying used guitars. I personally report fake fenders being sold on ebay when i see them. But most people dont do it for a profit, they do it because they like having a fender logo on their guitar. Lets be real, a lot of people buy fenders over squiers just because of the headstock logo. I own a classic vibe squier and a fender MIM counterpart, and i can confidently say that the squier is a better guitar. If decals weren't a thing, some squiers would easily outrank fenders.
I know right?, this guys forgetting about chibsons you'd see on dhgate online. I have a vintage squier bullet strat neck with a rosewood fretboard on my made in mexico strat, i love partscasters sometimes squier necks end up on them but who cares cuz they get modified. I only want to wipe the logo off because its not a bullet strat lmao. I want my strat to be like a Frankenstein partscaster with different mods to the body n pickups etc.
Its funny how this old sap is just using the word counterfeit on squier logos being replaced as if these are vintage fenders😂 i literally bought a 90s Mexican strat couple months ago. The owner told me that it was modified n i noticed the tuners and the necks serial number was wiped out, did i care? Not really but i thought it was super cool that it came with a toggle switch and the original tremolo bridge. Now i agree squiers are good, i had a classic vibe 60s telecaster and it was just my only axe i could afford the time, later on i upgraded it by adding a strat pickup and humhucker like a Nashville deluxe tele. I feel like this squier karen should realize getting rid of squier logos arent intended just to be shitted on but they can be turned into partscasters which are really cool fenders you dont see around that much unless you spot someone with a odd looking fender guitar
LoL, dude... Where to even start... Let's just start here; YOU ARE THE PROBLEM... Just because YOU don't care about a VERY REAL PROBLEM (that YOU admitted WAS legitimate) doesn't mean it doesn't MATTER... It simply means that it doesn't matter to YOU, LoL... I've very CLEARLY explained my position, and WHY this is IMPORTANT, and furthermore WHY it's wrong... You may not AGREE, but right is right and wrong is wrong, and telling me to "chill out" and just NOT CARE, like YOU, doesn't SOLVE the issue... People like you perpetrating this crap, and people not caring like you is a HUGE part of the problem... Again, you can TRY to justify it HOWEVER you like, but it's NOT right, and you either KNOW that, or THAT'S part of the problem...
Gracias, LoL, it's pretty funny when someone doesn't have the ability to tell a "Karen" from someone that has an ACTUAL, legitimate complaint, LoL... It's all good, we'll get ya straightened out, hoss; A "Karen" calls the cops when their favorite restaurant runs out of sweet tea, but if you're calling the police because the restaurant got ROBBED, that's probably NOT gonna be "a Karen"... The issue here are these scummy, dishonest people that do this crap, and everybody that puts up with it and allows it to happen. So, literally BY your response, you've already told us what side ol' Robin's on, LoL... You SHOULD have an issue with SOME THINGS, man, unless you'll just put up with ANYTHING, LoL... But yeah, quick recap just so ya remember and we don't have to tell ya again; Someone WITHOUT a LEGITIMATE complaint is referred to as a "Karen", but someone WITH a legitimate complaint is just complainin... Or bitchin, or fussin, or whinin, or griping, or bewailing (I like that one)...
As long as you’re not selling it (and not being forthcoming about it), it’s none of your business what we do with our guitars. And it’s your guitar, who are you “misrepresenting” to? And sorry, your argument is a stretch … that I need to worry about what people might do with my guitar after I die? Gtfoh! I’m a living room player. No one sees my guitars, so who cares what I put on my Squier’s headstock? You’re not counterfeiting unless you sell it.
@@RByrne well, I agree with you; If someone is gonna do this shady crap, because what OTHER people think is SO important to them, they SHOULD just go on and BUY A FENDER in the first place... As for ME personally, like I said, I'm a diehard Squier FANATIC, but I don't dig Fenders... What can I say? I'm known as "The Budget King" for a reason, and ALL that I care about is that the guitar sounds good, plays well, and ISN'T expensive... To me, it's just CRAZY as hell to spend $600 on a BOTTOM RUNG, M.I.M. Fender that 100% ISN'T gonna be NEARLY as good as a $350 TOP SHELF, Classic Vibe Squier.
@kevinnasky771; So, in other words, YOU'RE one of these guys who does this shady crap, LoL... You OBVIOUSLY didn't LISTEN to a WORD I said, because I answered ALL of your "questions" in this video... While it IS true that what YOU do with YOUR guitars IS none of MY business, it's ALSO "none of MY business" if you want to go out and rape and kill people, but THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT... You're obviously a selfish person who's not thinkin of ANYONE but yourself, so I'll actually answer your question; "Who are you "misrepresenting" it to?"; First off, it's not "misrepresenting" in quotations, when you REMOVE the headstock decal of the ACTUAL brand name of the company that MADE that instrument and replace it with ANOTHER brand name that DIDN'T make it, that's the DEFINITION of "misrepresenting", (also COUNTERFEITING) and as for "Who?"; EVERY SINGLE PERSON that SEES you playing that instrument. You're visually MISLEADING EVERY OTHER PERSON on the planet besides YOURSELF, LoL, but you didn't even THINK of that, LoL... And as for my comment being a "stretch", that's your incorrect opinion, and you CAN think that, BUT, stop and think; Do MOST guitarists KEEP every single guitar that they've EVER bought? Is it THAT much of a "stretch", or is it more like I'm ACTUALLY RIGHT and you just don't want to ADMIT it, LoL? I know it MUST be SUPER HARD to admit or think about to a selfish person, but WE ALL ARE eventually gonna die, and OTHER people generally get the things we once owned. Google "Inherit" or "inheritance", believe it or not, it IS a "thing" and it AIN'T a "stretch", Stretch, LoL... And as for your "it isn't counterfeiting as long as you don't sell it" comment; So, if I print up a bunch of 20 dollar bills, that WOULDN'T be counterfeiting UNTIL I tried to pass 'em off to OTHER people, right? See the problem there, hoss... LoL, hell naw, ya DON'T, and that's the damned problem... YOU don't see it as "wrong" cause YOU'RE THE ONE DOIN IT, LoL, go figure! Like I said, I'm NEVER gonna change you COUNTERFEITERS minds... I WISH I COULD, but like you said, I CAN'T FORCE people to do the right thing... Even though I wish people would stop killin people, they're probably STILL gonna keep doin it, and you ARE right... It's "none of my business"...
LoL, I feel that one... Unfortunately, I've found that a LOT of guitarists tend to judge when you open your case, and NOT at the end of the night after everyone has played...
@@ck2music712 and that could be one of the reasons why people put the Fender decal on their Squier, to don't be judged before they even pick up the guitar.
Wait, how is it any different with you taking off the Squier logo and putting your own logo on it? That makes people believe you made the guitar yourself. When you die people won't know they're buying a Squier so your point is moot, no?
You're comment proves that honesty isn't a "big deal" to YOU... But you do help prove my point; There's too many people who DON'T care about honesty or doin the right thing...
Do whatever u want dude, it's your guitar and do whatever you want with it. Personally if I was in your shoes, I'd keep the fender decal. As long as you don't try to sell it as a fake, you're in the clear. And even if you wanna sell the guitar, keep the fender logo, but say in the ad that this is a squier with a fender neck.
@@jademiller507 Why tf would I call a Squier with a Fender neck a Squier? At that point it's a partscaster, because once you up the neck to Fender quality you can't really call it a Squier. Also, if you've replaced the neck, you've probably replaced the shit for electronics that Squiers come with. Squiers are good modding platforms, not good instruments out of the box (unless it's some japanese Squier from the 80s). I'm genuinely tired of you Squier people pretending like you can buy a $200 affinity strat, and that it's going to be on par with $6 000 Fender CS guitars. Squiers take WORK to be good.
I don't know if you're bein facetious or if you're serious, but maybe you should watch the video and and try to listen and pay attention... People replacing broken Squier necks with genuine Fender necks is NOT the issue... But in that case, if you ACTUALLY buy a FENDER neck, there's no need to sand it off... But if you slap a FAKE "Fender" decal on a Squier and CLAIM that it's a "Fender" neck, THAT'S the problem...
@@ck2music712 I put a fender decal on my Squier, and used Gibson parts on it as upgrades. Its my guitar and my business dude. If I'm a POS who wants to sell it as a fake, thats when it stops being my business. But this is a guitar I won't sell, and if I ever happen to sell it, I'll just say all the mods including the decal. You're not gonna stop scammers from scamming or honest people from being honest. You're just shaming people for something that you have no business in. Sorry if I came off as rude just telling you the facts. Even if HYPOTHETICALLY I bought a cheap ass Squier like the affinities and put a fender logo on it because I don't want people to think I'm poor, which is a petty and illogical reason, right? Its still my business and not yours. If it bothers you then that's not anyone's problem. Its like hating a person because of the color of their shirt, it's their shirt and their life, none of which you have an unsolicited opinion in. Until you are affected (or at least someone is) by the things someone else does, nobody has the right to talk down on or berate anyone else.
Squier really has been putting in the work when it comes to their guitars, but their budget is limited, yet i feel like there's a good feeling of modding a squier to within an inch of its life too the point where they could destroy a high end fender, more than anything I see squiers as a good base if you want to modify your guitar to make it sound amazing
I have 2 Affinity Strats, a Bullet Mustang-90 and a Sonic Mustang SS and I modded the crap out of all of them. Stock guitars are boring and I like making every instrument uniquely mine.
@@christopheraaron8299 that's the fun of it for me, of course learning is important but getting into modding your guitar makes your tone better and really inspires you to play more
You can mod a squier all you want and it can be nice, they are making pretty good guitars these days. But it will never be better than a "good" high end Fender. Better woods, better fretwire, etc.
@@stuco a simple sanding and fretwork barely takes effort, "better wood" makes absolute zero difference in tone its bs, squire is just as good as most modern fenders.
I'm sorry brother but making this video doesn't put you on the moral high ground of guitarists. This is just a thinly veiled display of grandstanding. Putting decals on a guitar someone owns, or building a partscaster doesn't make them an immoral guitarist, and ranting about the people that do it doesn't make you a moral guitarist.
@@DigitalDZ7 Well, I don't know what ya mean by "grandstanding", lol, but you're right; "Ranting" about people who do this SCUMMY, immoral crap doesn't make you a "moral guitarist"... HAVING MORALS, sticking to them, calling out IMMORAL behavior, and NOT putting FAKE, counterfeit "Fender" decals on non-Fender guitars is what makes me a moral guitarist, lol... I didn't make this video to "put me on the moral high ground of guitarists", I made this video because I DO have morals, I DO know the difference in right and wrong, and I'm sick of this SCUMMY, dishonest, immoral behavior, so I felt convicted to do ANYTHING I possibly could to STOP IT... It's OBVIOUSLY clear that a LOT of these people that do this dishonest crap HONESTLY don't know that they're doin anything wrong (or they claim that, anyway). However, ANYBODY that sees this video, and stops to honestly even CONSIDER what I'm saying for a second, can NO LONGER claim "ignorance"... Also, if you want OTHER people to STAND UP and do the right thing, YOU have to be willing to stand up YOURSELF... THAT'S what this video is about, not "grandstanding" or "putting myself on the moral high ground of guitarists", and you can trust me, because I MADE the video, and I'm well aware WHY I made it, lol... And again, you ARE right that building a partscaster DOESN'T make you an immoral guitarist; But... Putting a FAKE, counterfeit "Fender" decal on the headstock of that guitar that WASN'T MADE by Fender, does, lol... See how that works, right? It's VERY telling that some people just CAN'T understand the VERY SIMPLE concept of; Be honest... DON'T put a decal of a company that DIDN'T MAKE THAT GUITAR on that guitar's headstock... THAT'S what ALL of this boils down to simply- And anybody that can't "understand" that SIMPLE idea, well, maybe it's not REALLY because they don't UNDERSTAND it, maybe they just don't want to admit that what they're doing is WRONG...
@@ck2music712 It's only wrong or immoral if they do it with the intention on selling it as a Fender guitar. Which some people do...among a thousand other ways there is to rip someone off. HOWEVER, you're not making that distinction. You're literally lumping everyone who puts a Fender decal on THEIR guitar into that category. There's a big difference. You think you're right, but your logic is flawed. It's one big logical fallacy. You're not making a moral stand.
Just sold a Silver Sky Core because a new affinity strat I bought felt better to me. It became the one I grabbed and couldn't put down...the pleasures of frugality can be awesome. I think being able to play the shit out of a guitar and then having a fellow guitarist see the Squier logo on it is priceless.
When I was out doing road gigs, I made me some " Radio Shack" magnetic logos to put on the metal grills on my fancy cabinets. Sometimes I'd use tacky putty to stick a K Mart logo or a little metal Tiesco logo on my headstock. Funny how many players didn't get the joke. A lot of musicians are no-fun, up-tight insecure dudes that should be in an office rather than on stage.
That says EVERYTHING we need to know about YOU, huh? Where's YOUR line for right and wrong, hoss? When YOU see something that's WRONG do you ACTUALLY stand up and SAY something? From your comment, you don't... I guess that's fine for people who are doing wrong, but there ARE some people left that care about right and wrong, even if YOU don't, LoL...
People take things too seriously. A "Fender" label on a headstock won't make you play any better. These days, Squire is making some really great guitars and they're a good value. Custom headstock labels can be fun! Trashcaster, Scrapcaster, Junkcaster, Garbagecaster, Wastecaster. Or, name the guitar after your pet, Jingacaster, Daisycaster, Boomercaster..whatever. They even make labels that say Chibson for the Chinese guitars. Paint over the phony Gibson and make it a Chibson (that's what it is). Music is supposed to be fun, have fun!
Thank you for this message, I can never tell if a guitar is a fake or not. I actually don’t hear a difference between a Les Paul or Telecaster or Ibanez etc unless I’m looking at it.
Then you wouldn't be spending any real big money buying a "real one" I hope. There are so many good guitars now for under $200, there's no need to buy a fender or gibson, unless you just want "status".
My first guitar was a Squier, and I've upgraded it over the years. Much nicer than any Fender off the shelf. I'm considering ditching the Squier decal for a custom one, but I agree on the Fender logo. I just want to show that it's my custom build, not try to pass it as a Fender. It will also never leave my possession, so I'm not worried about devaluing the guitar by removing the logo.
Meh, i just like the aesthetic of the fender logo on the headstock. I don’t own a squire but I have a couple Tom Anderson’s and a fender as far as Leo styles. If I buy a squire, I’d probably put a fender logo on just because I feel like it. Trying to view this in an absolute narrative that the only possible motive could be nefarious, is just dumb. 😂
Or you're just wrong, LoL... You can ATTEMPT to justify it ANY way you like, but sticking a FAKE "Fender" decal on a guitar that ISN'T a Fender CAN'T be justified RIGHTEOUSLY just because "you like it"... Sure, you COULD do it, but you COULD walk around robbing old ladies all day, but it still wouldn't be the RIGHT THING TO DO... Your comment is literally telling the world EVERYTHING they NEED to know about YOU, LoL...
@@ck2music712 as luck would have it, I found a squire classic vibe. And I just got the period correct fender water slide. Gonna think about you the whole time I’m sanding off that goofy squire logo 🤣🤣🤣
@@ck2music712 so when David gilmour got charvel to build him a Strat neck for the black Strat, I guess you’d tell David gilmour he’s “wrong” for putting a fender decal on the headstock? Lol such a stupid argument 🤣
I have a 1983 Squier Jazz Bass that I bought in January of 1984. I bought it to do experiments on, switching up the strings, bridge and especially the pick-ups. I always played a '69 Fender Telecaster Bass, or a '60s or '70s Precision Bass around it. After 40 years of experiments' it looks, unintentionally I might add, like an early '60s Jazz Bass that no one could possibly afford. Everyone knows what this bass is, and I would never tell anyone different. I have a hard time believing someone can't tell the difference between a Squier or a Fender. A quick trip to your local guitar store should tell you in a side by side comparison. Also, does no one check the but end of the neck, or any of the body cavities or any kind of factory stamp? They don't even share the same paint codes, as far as I know. I have no trouble telling the difference between a Squier and a Fender, and I'm just some guy. My Squier doesn't even have the same fret wire. Most of my friends and I would have no trouble spotting a fake anything, once you've been to a few hundred second-hand guitar shows, another place for great side by side comparisons. Thanks.
But obviously not EVERYONE is as sharp as YOU and your friends, hoss... If an uneducated person sees a decal on a guitar's headstock, they usually just ASSUME that that's what that guitar is... And these scummy people are taking advantage of that...
Just purchased a Bronco bass. Sanded the black simple logo of to put on a golden Squier logo. Bigger letter Bronco Bass. Doing a full refinish. It’s a great little bass. No need to make it something it is not.
As I've said, there AREN'T any VALID excuses for this, LoL... But evidently there's plenty of invalid ones, LoL... I do be crying when things aren't right...
Hey man i totally agree with you. I do own a fender american preformer strat. And im considering building a nice t style squier. It would be really cool to see a video of you showing what you personally would do with one. Parts, Mods, Filing etc. Great video
Excellent vid! I agree a million percent. Although I'm new to playing guitar, I'm not new to instrument's. Squire was my first guitar and I still love her! I have seen some shady players doing the very things in this vid. SMH.. Anyway great job calling them out, and you won a new sub.. 👍
Pretending it’s a Fender is only fooling yourself. That niggling feeling in the back of your mind will always be there. Just buy a Fender and stop being a cheapskate!
LoL... I'm gonna ask you to actually WATCH the video, and LISTEN, and then come back when you understand and can add something meaningful to the discussion... Dead people generally don't do much of anything except for rot, and the occasional case of necrophilia, LoL...
That's awesome, he's a HELLUVA player and usin his fingers like that... I posted a list of famous guitars who've played Squiers on stage and there was like 30 or somethin, LoL... But those mid 80's Japanese models are supposedly some of the best Squiers ever made... Supposedly when the Japanese brought those by the Fullerton Fender Factory, the guys at Fender claimed that they were probably better than the guitar's THEY were makin, LoL... And I know Hank Marvin from The Shadows played a Squier and actually had kind of a "signature" deal, gorgeous Fiesta red strat...
I used to get loads of crap for using a squire, honestly never gave a crap what anyone thought and still don't, I'm just focused on the music and playing well.
Another comment. Re decaling is fraud. An attempt to get someone to spend money for a different reason. Putting a Rolls Royce hood decal on a VW is the comparison. I have a Squire Strat, an Epie LP, and a Gibson by Baldwin SG and they all sound great because of the player. I am not concerned about resale. A person buying a Fender has the expectation that the "name" has value and will have good resale. If someone sees through a bad re branding, the seller has fraudulently lost money.
Spend your money however you want. Personally, I can afford a thousand dollar guitar. Hell, even a two thousand martin. But I also am not that good of a guitarist. I rather spend money on lessons than brand names on a guitar. As for counterfeiting, the few individuals changing decals is NOTHING compared to the entire countries making fake guitars by the hundreds a day. Let them folks have some semblance of pride. Real musicians do not care about the look, they focus on the sound anyways.
Why do I get the feeling he wouldn't mind if I replace a Fender logo with a Squier decal. Anyway, he has convinced me... I'm sanding off the logo on every guitar I purchase from now on (already have on the expensive ones). It's not worth offending anyone.
I'd mind if you stuck ANY decal on the headstock that WASN'T the company that manufactured the guitar... People shouldn't replace Fender decals with Squier ones either... Either way is equally dishonest and scummy...
@ck2music712 With the quality of Fender's production for the last half century, you end up putting far more work into finding a good guitar than they put into manufacturer it. Once you have decided which model you want it takes 30-40 hours of work to drive around, in some cases through multiple states, playing the same model, hoping to find the 1 in 500 that is a good specimen. Not all of us can afford to buy the Masterbuilts that are made with a half decent amount of craftsmanship. That's what I did for my workhorse telecaster, and I didn't sand down the headstock because I'm a vain loser, and I'm aware that a lot of people think Fenders are "cool". Leaving the Fender logo on that guitar is somewhat dishonest. After working at a music store for many years and selling hundreds of Affinity Squier Chinese j-bases, a specimen came in one day that was just something to behold... something I've never seen since. Of course I had to buy it. I put Fender Custom Shop vintage 60s J-bass pickups in it, and I play it all the time. But I would feel very guilty misleading people to think that this was the quality of the average Squier Affinity Bass. It's probably one in 10,000, and it has some of the best pickup in it that Fender has manufactured in decades. So, yes, I sanded down the headstock, and no, I did not put a fender decal on it because that is dishonest. But I think it would be equally dishonest to leave The Squire logo on it and not explain to people how I came to choose it as an instrument. Honesty can be complicated when you are talking about logos on manufacturered goods. What about Roland guitars made by Ibanez?
That was kinda the point, hoss... That scumbags gonna scumbag and decent folks are gonna act decent, but that the DECENT folks SHOULD call this crap out instead of just lettin scumbaggery slide... But thanks for the comment...
It's really simple, when you buy a thing you can do whatever you want with that thing. And that doesn't necessarily make anyone a scumbag. @@ck2music712
I wouldn’t put a fender decal on a squire, if you don’t like the squire name, for whatever reason,there’s other options out there , there’s decal makers all over the bay, a cool one that comes to mind is the Frankenstrat, or the frankenbass logo, with Frankensteins face on it, same fender font, really cool logo., military decals and stickers come to mind too.
Question: If my Squire Strat Neck got snapped in half and the most accessible strat neck is a fender neck, should I go through the trouble of buying a squire neck online and paying for shipping and customs?
WHY don't some folks understand this, man? If you break your Squier's neck, and you buy a FENDER neck to go on it, that's a FENDER neck, and there's absolutely NO problem with keeping the Fender decal... It's NOT cool when you sand off your stock Squier decal and replace it with a fake "Fender" one... Or these people that do that EXACT thing, and then TELL PEOPLE "Well, it's a FENDER neck, so" which is one of the latest popular dishonest tactics...
I find Squier necks too thin and I’ve sold all my Squiers because of this except one Squier Esquire. I put a Fender Classic Series Esquire neck on it as an experiment and it was far far better. A neck upgrade makes a Squier 100% better.
I'd say Fender should badge the Squiers 'Fender' , and simply put 'American Made' is small font underneath for those Fenders that are manufactured in the States. That way, people who have plenty of money, or who want to buy american made for other reasons, have the proof. The name 'Squier' on the guitar might as well say 'Cheap', so the message you're projecting is either you're poor, or you're cheap; and along with that come expectations of a poor quality guitar. Squier owners know that these guitars play and sound just as good as american built Fenders.
Says a lot about the world we live in I honestly think that people think they're guitar sounds better because it has a fender decal on it and I'm not kidding one single bit what happened to getting the guitar because it sounds good and it plays good who gives a damn about what's on the headstock
EXACTLY... I 100% agree... The placebo effect is a VERY REAL thing, hell, we ALL know that when we're gettin a KILLER tone, we play better... But it's gettin to the point that people seem to care more about what OTHER PEOPLE THINK about their guitar than THEY do, LoL!
As far as i am concerned the only guitars that should be badged as Fender are the ones produced in the actual Fender factories in the US and mexico. Any Fender produced produced by a different company under licence by Fender is the same as a squier, just a licenced copy
Hey Great News! I got some waterslide decal material from Hobby Lobby! Now I can print up ALL KINDS of Fender decals for Squier necks and beyoooond! I'll put one on a goat for you!!
Several more clear coats on the old fakeocaster necks today! Fender decals all the WAY!! Nothing like FREE ADVERTISEMENT for a company that pays me nothing nor endorses me. On my own personal equipment that's NEVER FOR SALE! EVEN AFTER I DIE! Time to go feed those goats.
@@bfidel Man, if you're serious, thank you... Obviously this video has been a MAGNET for nasty and "Dude, shut up, it doesn't matter!" comments, but if ONE person watches this video, gives it an HONEST shot and actually CONSIDERS what it's saying, and decides to NOT do this, then it proves that I was actually able to help stop this stuff, and make SOME kind of difference... And THAT'S worth all the hate that I catch... Thanks, hoss...
@@dave5137 seriously? People STILL don't get this simple concept? If you bought the neck FROM Fender, and Fender made the neck, then there's NO ISSUE with it having a Fender decal on it... It came like that... However, if you buy a GENERIC neck that was NOT made by Fender, and stick a FAKE "Fender" decal on it, THAT'S not right... These scummy people that do this crap will buy a Squier, sand the decal off, replace it with a FAKE "Fender" decal and then TELL everyone, "Well, it's a Fender neck..."
I have 2 Affinity Strats, a Bullet Mustang-90 (a mod job) and a Sonic Mustang SS. Not gonna lie, when I painted one of the Affinity Strats, I did consider slapping a Fender logo on it. Ultimately, I decided to just leave it as is.
See? Some folks STILL have a conscience and can tell right from wrong! Thank you! Squiers are GREAT guitars in their OWN right, and folks who can actually PLAY them usually aren't ashamed of a Squier logo, LoL...
It’s all about prestige. I have two budget guitars one is a TG 427 Graach men night blue. It’s a beautiful guitar. I also own a walnut 1970 style fender Squier. I’m going to upgrade it with a new bridge and new machine heads. But it’s a Squier not a fender. I’ve been playing guitar since 1974 almost 50 years in this hobby. I love it. but I don’t like when people say mines better than yours or yours is better than mine. The fact of the matter is is how well can you play that damn thing and how good can you make it sound. Fender, Gibson. High dollar prestige instruments. As for myself, I don’t really care much for namebrand high dollar guitars, all bragging, all pony and all kidding aside. I can take an old piece of junk and make it sound beautiful just by playing it, so name brands and all that great how well do you really play. Have a great day. Thanks for the video. Sorry my comment was so long but what you’re saying is true the next thing you know they will be doing this with Gibson ha ha. Good luck, Charlie.👍🏼❤️🎸😖😡🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Thanks for the support, hoss... I don't know what you mean by saying that you have a "Walnut 1970 style Fender Squier", though... The Squier brand didn't exist in 1970, so I'm assuming that you have a '70's Classic Vibe Squier Stratocaster in a Walnut finish, lol... And just so ya know, you can just call it what it is; A Squier... Usually the people who say their guitar is a "Fender Squier" or "Squier by Fender" are the ones trying to sell a Squier at Fender prices, lol...
You're right to be upset with people doing this to actively fool people, but you're absolutely wrong to assume it's always a bad intention or that it's inherently wrong, and calling people "scummy" is ignorant and curmudgeonly behavior. Get over yourself. You should go outside or something sometime, you might feel better after a walk.
You and me both, LoL... Are you on the SquierTalk forum? If not, you should come by and check it out and say hello, show off some pics and talk shop with us, LoL... www.Squier-Talk.com is the link, I think... I go by "SquierTap" over there, but I haven't been in a while... Don't leave me hangin, LoL, what kind of Squier do ya got?
I've found that MOST of the time, people are slappin those FAKE "Fender" decals on their Squier and usin the EXCUSE "Oh, it's a FENDER neck..." Sure it is, Sparky, LoL...
I'm OK, I have an early 90s Japanese Strat which was manufactured with a big black Fender Logo and a tiny Squier series decal. None of the previous owners were devious enough to bother sanding off the Squier part of the logo.. Oh, and I also have an early 80s Japanese JV Squier Strat. Plus an early 90s Squier Silver series Strat. All good to excellent quality Squier instruments. Best part is they were all acquired at very low prices because they were 'ONLY' Squiers - not the 'real thing' . But we know better.
Bud, we're not talkin about someone stickin a paper or vinyl STICKER on the neck, LoL... We're talkin about someone SANDING the Squier decal off (or sanding down the whole neck) then applying a professional "waterslide" decal that they bought online. Then they cover the decal with polyurethane, or nitrocellulose, or TruOil, or whatever finish they're using. Then you have to come back and sand that down smooth, and you keep applying layers, until the decal "floats"... So, the decal would be UNDER the shiny finish, just like it looks when they put it on at the Squier factory... But sometimes you CAN tell pretty quickly, especially if someone did a crap job, LoL...
@@seabeeeff Are you actually SERIOUS? Because I'm DEAD serious, lol... Whether we want to think about it or not, eventually the day will come for ALL of us that we WILL die, and ya can't take it with ya. So, yeah, eventually one day all of your possessions WILL become someone else's, and when that that day DOES COME, because it 100% WILL, that means that if you were to commit this scumbaggery and put FAKE, counterfeit "Fender" decals on your non-Fender instruments, SOMEONE will be forced to deal with that... And chances are fairly good that it WILL be someone that isn't as knowledgeable about your possessions are you were, and at that point, that FAKE counterfeit "Fender" guitar will HAVE to go SOMEWHERE... You can't say that a WORD of this is untrue, man, and if you're honest with yourself, you'll know that... Just as well as I know it, and literally ANYONE else who IS being honest with themselves...
At first I disliked but I came back to like and comment..I think many start out with the intention of modding and eventually put the fender “badge” on the headstock..however when(if) proper research is done they’re just not the same and if you’re going through all that work then you should build the instrument that fender should have built..after all the time effort and cash you should get a graphic designer and a printer to make your own “badge” the aftermarket & “boutique” space is abundant you’ll find less “imposter syndrome” and more enjoyment because now you have a story to tell🍻
I agree... A custom waterslide is a GREAT option... Especially if you buy a budget brand guitar and mod it to higher quality... I'm just sayin don't put a company's decal on the headstock if they DIDN'T make that guitar...
Bro seems to be makin a valid, legitimate argument, but if you're one of the SCUMMY people who either do this crap, or just let it slide, I guess you might consider it "yapping"...
Lol, it works BOTH ways... People who pay RIDICULOUS amounts of money just for havin "the right" brand on the headstock are pretty funny to me, lol... To each his own, right? You seem like a tolerant dude, lol...
The lady doth protest too much, methinks! Good rant though, I enjoyed it. I agree that Squier are an excellent choice of guitar, I've had a few, and they totally stand up to other brands, and can surpass 'higher end' makes and models. It's all about the player. Look at Prince's MadCat Hohner Telecaster. I guess people who can't necessarily afford Fender USA are craving an ethereal and rather imagined authenticity. No doubt there are some bad eggs out there, who are a bit shifty. But I think calling everyone "scum" is going a bit far. I'd be interested to hear where you stand on the relic debate? Do you reckon this is the same level of fakery? I own a few guitars by the way, but more of an acoustic guy. My Japanese Kimbara that I picked up for 40 quid sounds just as good as my 1924 Gibson L-2. Just different!
Eh, as far as the Relic issue goes, as far as I'm concerned, as long as they're not trying to MISREPRESENT the instrument as a BRAND that it isn't, knock yourself out... I have ZERO problem with modding, customizing, or "relicing" guitars, I DO have a problem with people turning Squiers into COUNTERFEIT "Fenders", LoL...
@@ck2music712 I'm firmly by your side on that one. You're absolutely right about people making philosophical excuses to justify a "decal change". It's the same as anything, and comes down to motive.
I hear your points... Don't understand why you are so triggered over it but.. I get it. Personally, if I ever were to do this, I would probably change all the logos to say Fender by Squire because I think its funny. I wouldn't try to pass it off and on the back of the headstock it would have a squire label... perhaps even have some sort of note in the case that explains just in case. But, again... I get it. I would never want to buy a guitar, pay fender price.. and receive squire product. Like Gibson and Epiphone... but.... what exactly is the difference? Wood quality? Hardware differences? Electronics? or... cheaper labor. perhaps lower quality control. Once you get it and set it up... isn't it damn near close to a fender anyway? All I am trying to say is... Fender and squire are really not all that far apart. Same shapes. Whereas Gibson and Epi... well there are clear hardware differences. To me, a squire will always be a Fender. I don't care whats on the headstock. A Fender or a Squire do not cease being a Fender or Squire when the name is removed. Just...lighten up a little.
Man, the whole reason I made this video is because people ARE 100% BEING TOO PASSIVE and allowing this crap to happen... Seems like you DO get the point of the video, but one of my main points is that people ARE "lightening up" and lettin this SCUMMY dishonest stuff happen...
It’s just like money counterfeiting money is illegal. Counterfeiting guitars should be the same. It should be illegal. Maybe Fender should make abalone logos. I love my Squier Stratocaster. I’m putting new machine hands on it in gold they were made by fender. But I’m not gonna put a fender logo on my guitar because it’s not a fender it’s a Squier. I drove there be an honest person, then a diss, honest person fender Gibson, all that is nothing but glorified prestige. and I totally agree with you 100%. I put one video comment on here already. I’m going to give you this one. Also it is fraud and it should be stopped. I think it’s illegal to be doing this. I may be wrong, but I’ve already kind of looked into it and I think it’s illegal. I hope it is the guy that’s making these is selling them on eBay. He has a video on RU-vid right now as we speak. Look it up attack him my friend get rid of this bullshit now before people get ripped off I’ve been playing guitar for 50 years, almost I picked up a guitar in 1974. I have a lot to say about things like this especially to the consumer like me and you go get them there fraud👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 I love your video👍🏼👍🏼❤️🎸🎸😀
Ughhh... No they don't... But I'm not gonna waste that much time to have to explain what "Counterfeit" means... If Fender produces a Stratocaster, then that Stratocaster ISN'T a counterfeit... It's 100% a GENUINE Fender Stratocaster... I think you might be confusing licensed body shapes with counterfeits.... Screw it, I'll waste the time; A COUNTERFEIT is when Sam down the street makes a guitar that's the same body shape as a Fender Stratocaster, then he slaps a "Fender" decal on the headstock... Whether he successfully sells that guitar or not, it was NOT made by Fender, and by putting that "Fender" decal on the headstock, he now has a COUNTERFEIT (or NON genuine) guitar...
You're proving my point EXACTLY... People who "don't see the problem here" ARE the PROBLEM... If someone you don't know was murdered, sure, YOU may not care one bit, but is that murder "okay" because you don't care? This crap is OBVIOUSLY wrong to anyone that has morals and a sense of right and wrong, but like I said, some people have no problem being shady and dishonest, and in MY experience the people who "don't give a crap" are usually doing shady dishonest stuff themselves... But thanks for proving my point... I'd bet if YOUR MOM got ripped off buyin you a FAKE "Fender" maybe THEN you'd give a crap... Or maybe not, maybe you're THAT selfish...
I think they need to stop that too. Who cares anyway? It’s all about prestige. I have a squire. I’m not putting no fender decal on hand. It’s a cool guitar. It’s mahogany. It’s beautiful and it’s mine. I I do upgrade. It’s on it, but I don’t change the head stock. It looks like a fender place like a fender, but it’s a squire. I accept it for what it is after all I bought it and pay for it and it is fine, I love my squire. Have a great day. Thanks for your honest video.👍🏼😎👍🏼❤️❤️🎸🎸☮️
I totally agree with some of your speach and hate people selling counterfeit guitars, but when a guitarist owning several strats among them fenders and squiers likes to play a squier but can't stand the logo on the neck why would you want to prevent him from replacing it for a fender ?! Also I have one original strat made in Japan that bears an original fender stratocaster spaghetti logo and a tiny "squier series" logo instead of the "contour body" logo... ! I think that it was a stupid idea to replace the fender logo by squier, many people who want to buyer squiers don't do it only because of the logo and prefer to buy other cheap guitars not as good. There is no reason why the fender logo should be reserved to Mexico and USA guitars. I have several strats, one of my favourite was made in Fullerton and the other one in China. I also own a very special one, with seven strings made in Indonesia, with incredibly powerful pickups, SSH. The important for me is to keep the country in which it's made, most of the time written on the back of neck of squiers. I like to know that this strat is made in china and this one in corona etc.
I don't know if you know it or not, hoss, yeah, Fender OWNS Squier, but they're two COMPLETELY different corporate entities. Two totally different companies or brands... It wouldn't be such a big deal if they WEREN'T, but this is NOT the SAME THING that's just in an "expensive" version or an "affordable" version. People SERIOUSLY seem to think that "Squier is just a cheaper version of Fender" and don't understand that it's a totally DIFFERENT company, LoL... You wouldn't buy a Toyota and put a Honda decal on it, right? And as far as I'm concerned, the people who ARE too snooty to try a Squier, OR the ones that won't ADMIT they like a Squier, they can spend the extra $500 and get the "right" decal from Fender, LoL...
There IS, The "SQUIER SERIES" guitars that FENDER released. They weren't made for long, but those are literally the ONLY "Fender Squiers" that were ever made. The Squier brand however, is a completely different company...
@@ck2music712 That's not my point. I know a lot about Fender I have many books on the brand, especially about the Stratocaster ! I'm just saying that if someone has bought a Squier, that he likes very much his guitar and if the only thing that bothers him is the Squier brand logo why would you want to prevent him from replacing it by a Fender if it makes him happy ??! Would you prefer him to throw his very good guitar to the bin or sell it ? I'm a Stratocaster fan and have several of them, some made in USA some in Asia. It happens that two of my favourite are made In China and Indonesia, they are very well made, especially the one made in China. I am a perfectionnist so I know what I'm talking about. Even when they are made in huge plants there are not two guitars the same, if you have one that you like keep it, and if the Squier logo prevents you from sleeping well at night replace it by a Fender and sleep well !
@@KStarDid it seems you didnt watch the whole video, He answered your point completely. The answer to your concern is in my opinion, just sand the logo off. No logo. Or, your own name decal. Fraud makes me unhappy.
I agree 100%... It happens SO frequently that I HAD to make this video, so instead of having to type a WALL of text (that they're not gonna read anyway) I can just post this. But I made it so we ALL can post it ANYTIME we see this crap... I see this crap almost EVERY DAY in my Squier groups on Facebook, and ANY TIME that I comment and tell them that it's wrong, the moderators REMOVE my comment...
I have Fenders and Squiers. I have a Squier by Fender tattoo. I am building a parts caster that has a neck which is mahogany shaft wood and maple fret board. I spent over $300 on the Fender pickups. Got a Fender super swutch and Fender S1 switch. I am putting a Fender decal on it. Will never part with it. Its not wrong for me to do it. Most people will never see the guitar so if it makes U cry bcuz I built my dream guitar around the Fender Pickups and want a Fender decal on it. Well go a head I will have fun playong my guitar into boss fdr 1 or boss fbm 1 pedal into my fender bassbreaker 15 amp or Fender pro junior 4 right before I jam on 2 of my favorite guitars which are Squiers.
It doesn't "make me cry", but if you build a guitar from parts and then slap a COUNTERFEIT "Fender" decal on the headstock, and you NEED someone to explain to you WHY that isn't right, or honest, YOU are EXACTLY who this video is aimed at...
@@ck2music712 you obviously dont know what counterfeit is. A counterfeit is something made to imitate something valuable with purpose of decieving someone, typically intended for selling or counterfeit money intended for purchasing things. If I do not sell it then it is not counterfeit by defenition especially if no one else ever sees the guitar. It is a fake but not counterfiet. Learn what words mean. LoL
@@donnywagers8736 Yeah, I went over that part, man... But yeah, you CAN be a sleazy, dishonest, shady person, and it doesn't matter if decent people like it or not... You're exactly right...
I have a '93 American Fender and have been weighing getting a replacement neck vs. a refret. If I go with a replacement neck, then this very issue comes into play in the case of a non-Fender neck.
I don't understand... If you have an American FENDER, and you replace the neck on it with another FENDER neck, then obviously it's gonna have a Fender decal... Same thing with Warmoth and a couple of the other higher end replacement necks; They have licensing rights from Fender to use that decal, so STILL "no harm, no foul"... BUT, if you use a cheaper, NON-LICENSED neck, I WOULDN'T just stick a "Fender" decal on it, just because the REST of the guitar was made by Fender, LoL... Obviously this video wasn't made with folks like you in mind, hoss- It's aimed DIRECTLY at those guys who sand off their Squier decal and slap a FAKE "Fender" decal on the headstock... So, if you wanna keep the "Fender" decal, just buy a FENDER neck, and nobody could say a word to ya...
A Squire is still a Fender toyota just a more affordable cheaper fender so people can buy like chevy and ford make other makes of cars that people can afford but they are still a chevy ford mercury Cadillac the same is with guitars and alot of name brand products. Because it says Squire by Fender matter where it's made not just Mexico and United States. So mine I'm supposed to get rid of it because it was made in Indonesia it's still Squire by Fender they get inspected by the same inspectors to Fender specifications no matter where they are made. People are just hooked on the name brand products and made in America and Mexico same thing with guns and a loaf of bread made by ButterCrust with a different name 😂
So while i agree, before you buy off the streets fender always run the serial numbers folks, and make sure they are the same numbers as the body. Pop off the neck because you cn buy a fender neck online. Still a squire body, i put a fender neck on a squire because i am a musician and its embarrassing to have a squire but i enjoy the sound of my telecaster. However i would NEVER sell that to somebody as a fender, fender is US or MEX made squire is mass produced
Just the fact that you call yourself a musician and in the same sentence you admit that you think playing a Squier is "embarrassing" tells everyone ALL they need to know, man... People who are COMFORTABLE and CONFIDENT in their MUSICAL ability usually aren't "embarrassed" by WHAT BRAND their instrument is, LoL... I guess if what OTHER PEOPLE THINK is THAT important to you, maybe you SHOULD buy the "right" brand of guitar that wouldn't be so embarrassing for you... But EITHER way, putting FAKE "Fender" decals on a NON Fender guitar isn't right... But people being EMBARRASSED by their guitar's BRAND is what started all this mess...
What is really dumb. A company, Warmoth for example can't put there own logo on the headstock of a Fender licensed neck. They do include a decal with purchase that the customer can apply if they wish.
Doesn't seem that dumb to me... If Fender DIDN'T produce that neck, it probably shouldn't have a Fender decal on it... But if they do include a "Fender" decal, it's for these guys with small peepees who do this SCUMMY stuff... Personally, I think if Warmoth created the neck, then it should probably have a "Warmoth" decal, even if Fender licensed the neck shape to 'em... Oh, and, *their
@@ck2music712 I put the supplied Warmoth and turtle decals on the headstock. I personally no longer care what name is on the headstock. A good guitar is a good guitar.
Seriously? Watch the video again, and at least try to pay a LITTLE attention this time, hoss... I said EXACTLY what the harm is in that EXACT situation...
