Stop Selling Beats Online And Do THIS Instead (less saturated) 

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Strangely I've have gone in the opposite direction recently. I've been producing songs with artists for 20 years, but now I've started the beat game. Writing a song with an artist can take months. I can write 2-3 beats a day. 1/3 of all music bought and streamed globally is HipHop. It may seem saturated but in reality it is the largest market. Doing both things seems more beneficial than choosing one over the other. Great vid tho, hopefully you inspire beat makers to become producers as well.

Refreshing to hear this. Been feeling there must be a better way for those of us who can do more than make a beat! Thanks for taking the time to share this out~

Thank you for this video. I was sort of thinking like this but you actually made sense of it and gave me clarity. I have to do some groundwork but this video helped a lot already.

I have a non-commercial studio. I don't advertise, I take on the projects I want, and I get plenty of work producing full tracks from scratch tracks and this has been an amazing side hustle. This is truly the way to go.

Hey, I'm starting out (almost) from scratch in music production and it's a good idea to market to artists. I didn't realize I could build artist-client relationships like that. Also, what you said here struck me as relevant "The cheaper the product or services, the harder it is to make money with it.", "The cheap market is the most competitive.", "The sequence of how you do business, matters.", "You can make more of an impact on the artist that you're working with." I'm going to add, that, when working with any artist a constructive critical review of their work is absolutely necessary (and they must be able to handle it), because If you can't address your own work constructively, then you fail to grow out of your comfort zone and you don't have the desire to break rules and experiment with your sound, you end up sounding like everyone else and enjoying the result of your lukewarm efforts. You become comfortably numb. Do you know that saying "Art should disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed."? There's a lot of truth to that.

Exactly what I needed to clarify my own view of the industry atm. Subbed.

man thats where im at and ready to move in that direction.thanks looking forward to more infi

Stumbled acrossed your videos and one of the first that’s very clear and can actually teach something valuable to producers who make music and enjoy that as their work/ way of life and making money

Thanks for this 🙏

The good thing about leasing beats is setting and forgetting. I still make money off beats I dropped 4 years ago, so each beat is like a small investment. 10 years from now I'll still have hundreds of beats being sold passively online. Not dissing your thought process, both methods are effective.

I'm in that beat leasing burnout mode myself. This video spoke to me. Thank you.

This actually makes a lot of sense, because I’ve posted beats online before, and had artist ask me if I had a beat that sounded “similar“ to something that I posted. They explained that they liked the chords, but wanted the bassline a little different, and use a different drum pattern. So I tried to go through my library, because I wasn’t in the mindset of actually working with artists to develop a song. 😂 I potentially lost a lot of clients when I first started out.

Thank You...this really helps me💯

Mind Blown! You changed my whole trajectory of life....

this is exactly what i've been thinking about doing since the beginning of the year. something about the beat selling system has always felt off to me. i've always been hands on. from showing people how to record, to pitching them alternative lines or melodies to sing. Currently, i'm at my peak. i can offer an incredible amount of value. i know how to produce, record, mix, master and i own a highly praised cinema camera, so i can shoot music videos. i understand cinematography well, i know how to edit, color grade and i have basic understanding of marketing. you've only solidified the belief that i should be rich with everything i'm currently able to do. i thought i was crazy think i wanted to charge $1500 for something like this. i know now, i'm probably worth more. imagine, one person. a one stop shop for everything. i don't even mind going of out my genres (classical hip hop and modern melodic pop trap). i like the challenge. thank you RU-vid algorithm, THANK YOU SIR.

I struggle making beats and getting back into music all together but this is great info bc I haven’t hear anything from this kinda perspective

Makes a lot of sense!

New to beat selling...nice ..its gon be crazy when im up 🔥🔥

Wow for some reason I needed to see this!

Im just now finding this video cause it popped into my feed and im going to start listening to your podcast

Thank you, usefull tips ;D

You’re right!! I know mid tier artists who work song-by-song and it seems like lots of bigger artists want to pay producers a salary these days to save time from searching for heat

Amazing information right here. Wish I understood this a long time ago!

Great stuff man. Thank you so much for helping

💎💎🚀🚀Thank you!

Whoa you just CHANGED THE EFFING GAME FOR ME. I already do this on the side, for free to people. Wow just ... wow. Thank you 🙏

Great info thanks! Im interested in the 'how to find the independent artists' you speak of. Ill try the tips youve mentioned in the comments. Naturally I slammed that Subscribe button.🔥

Yep! Exactly what I needed!!! Thanks!!! 😀

I think I needed to hear this. The sort of beats I've been making are not really the common beats suitable for trap rap, some of them are more songs than beats, really. I'm not trying to put that genre down, but my production in is more jazz-like or orchestral and the writing isn't that repetitive, which is not really what conventional rappers these days seem to want. For this reason I haven't really released anything yet, because I don't think I'd fit in that market, and this video has given me great food for thought, thank you!

I really like this idea here. Definitely appreciate your input!

this video just changed my life... thank you

Game changing mindset shift, thanks!

agree, full production is much more worthy, creates more value for the producer and for the artist. at this point i'm making beats to build a portfolio which i can send to artist just for example what they can expect if they'll work with me.

This video was right on time man! This helped a lot.

Thank you!

Not sure the best way to go about this. But when your art doesn't seem to gain any traction, even when you think it may be good, the next option makes sense to go to the broader audience. How do you go about trying to get people interested in looking for original productions or seeking professional audio or production services you may be able to offer, including mixing and mastering?

thanks man spot on just subscribed

Late to the video but I couldn’t agree more specially for us Musicians that create and compose 🙌🏼🙌🏼

What's up Daniel! I had a quick question. When you're producing a custom song for an artist within the model that you were describing is there usually a written agreement that the artist signs fryer to the production of the song or after the production of the song? Meaning for example discussing royalty percentages publishing that kind of thing

nice man! opened my third eye ideas with this vid :D

really good video!!

Still relevant! Beat selling burnout is real

I’m just now seeing this video but this is something that my piano instructor told me a few months ago. I definitely want to go the producer route. I have to learn everything about what a producer does to make sure I have a quality production. Anything with my name attached to it has to be no less than a masterpiece. That’s my attitude 💯

i actually did this once for free. ended up making a rock track for the first time ever and the guy loved it. how can i join the facebook group?

I think this is good advice even if you are just sticking to beats when it comes to real, dedicated artists who are also producers. Also, if you're mixing and composition skills are decent you can ask for an hourly rate for changes to the track structurally or sonically. Daniel is correct on all fronts when he talks about artists and the available money they have...You are not going to reach your dream as a successful artist or rapper without a killer producer behind you, in fact it's important to realize that the producer is the most important element out of anything especially if you're a rapper (That means they will pay the money if they are serious). Producing excessive beats only for sales also doesn't encourage growth and stifles creativity, limits progress and completely diminishes any artistic reason a person might of once had before they began producing music altogether. A top notch track needs to be nauseatingly reworked, listened to, trialed and perfected and this can take time or not, depending on the situation. Like what real artist wants to pump out cookie cutter lame beats that sound like every other beat on the market while killing your ego at the same time selling them for 30 bucks? The reputational pigeon hole you will get stuck into will be hard to break out of as well if potential high level clients ever hear your work (and like it) and see that you're not really serious about perfecting a few special tracks and only mass producing tracks. It might make them think that they could even find the same skill level as you or better and easily and hire a producer to replicate that beat while adding the top notch quality/icing on the cake that these cheap beats do not have that a high level producer could provide them. Like I have gone through probably about 30 channels in regards to this issue and Daniel is presenting the most realistic, straight forward and mature advice for a producer who not only wants increase overall earnings, but is also passionate about what they do. I really appreciate the content man, well done.

Very good info

better idea; find one star artist to produce for, they pay around 30k-60k for one song production. obviously easier said than done part is always written in small letters.

Great work man

Woah! This means my music costs way more than the god damn beats! Thanks 4 the lovely info. Buddy! Now i know what to do next! 💰

Where can I find artist who wanna do this and how can I make them this offer?

Thank you so much for this ❤️. Can you please help me? How can I find an artist who wil buy my service?

Hey man, thanks a lot. As I am fairly new to music industry, I really wanna know about how and where I can find clients to work with. How do I let people know that I can produce music for them? Producing tracks for others via online is the only way for me, So please help me out. (& Sorry for my bad English :)

11/10 thanks for sharing!

hi Daniel, I follow your work, but I live in Brazil, I don't speak English, it would be interesting if you put the subtitles of your videos for the option of Portuguese too, the Brazilians would be grateful and would accompany you too

That makes sense

that’s what i’ve dreamed of being. being the conductor of the whole project. i just have no idea how to get invited to sessions and get experience in the studio besides school

As somone who has just started out, the beat leasing model is the easiest to get into, plus I also use it to test if my beats are good enough. But definitely want to produce for other artists including myself.

Thanks so much for this advice, i never really considered this much, but i'd rather try and do this than selling beats

what this guy is saying is actually LEGIT. I haven't made crazy $$ of this yet, BUT I built MULTIPLE clients pretty much using this method. You basically have to CONNECT with the artist. You have to be provide them with your service first. Let them know you're willing to help them out with their music. Over the past year 1/2, I've made connects with artists from all over the world such as Canada, South Korea, Chicago, here in Houston, Columbia, even Tokyo. Become not only their producer, but assistant AND friend by building a relationship. I made it to where ppl would hit me up simply bc I was their "to-go producer". They knew my sound was different from others and I made a genuine connection with them.

Thanks so much

I didn't get how do I get to the point that artist contact me/agree to work with me (after i hit them up) and trust me with thier full song??

Português amei, vou poder estudar

brow the link to book a call with you doesnt work. Whats a better way to contact you? Thank you!

Bro click funnels crushes this flat down .

Question , did you have a centralized platform that people could find you on? Like a website or fiver, etc? Or did you just go out and find artists?

hello how do i schedule a call with you im interested in your knowledge

Ok, you convinced me. But how do I find and reach out to independent artists?

Thank you for revitalizing what music is really worth.

So this makes sense to me, I honestly am open to both, selling beats and also working with other independent artists such as myself however I do go about finding other artists who are ready and willing to pay me for my work? What websites or platforms should I look into to start sourcing these artists?

Loving this vid my man - I think we might need to connect 👍

Great topic Bro

i come from china ,the music industry have a big difference between american , your video really give me a inspiration ,thank you

You're a saint

Why would someone dislike this awesome video

The beat market is most definitely over saturated, especially with indie artists who steal a lot of beats as well.

Hey, very interesting indeed. But how will the upcoming talent find me as a producer/artist to make a song and/or theme for them? I made a lot of stuff (stuff I believe in) and put it out in the hope to get noticed but... to no avail after so many years. Any ideas on how to get noticed without spending amounts to go into pockets of internet moguls? This feels like such an honest thing to do, make art and have others buy and use it for their careers but with all those intricate platforms trying to squeeze money out of me (us) it feels like every move I make I end up feeling cheated. Anything out there where it's possible for the aspiring artist and aspiring producer to meet that you know of? Thx for the vids, inspiring!

Where do you find the artists that want to make songs if you’re a producer? Is there a website?

im extremely new to music making/producing, so how would i start to become a producer? Do i have to learn that in a course or go to some famous location and try to learn from them? I dont exactly know what a producer consists of. Do i make a beat and send it to artist? or do i ask artist to give me a chance to work with them? Should I Make my own beat and make my own song to promote my skills? Theres just so much i dont know.

If someone who has studied the basics of economics understand the demand-supply graph. it's simple when the number of suppliers is bigger than the demand then the cost of product goes down. now a days , music production , making music is not a secret at all. It will become even more harder in the future to make a living through music as AI and mobile apps are becoming more powerful each day.

🤔 A.I cranking out beats are Heavily🗑 But in the year 2023 Producing a Artist is Absolutely Legit.

How do you communicate your rates?

I get what you are sayin, but the way you say it, just comes off as attack mode, its an option, Its better for you that's awesome, but the more options of nailing down your project especially budget projects is great, as they graduate level up, they can step up to something more comfortable or fits their busy schedules, we all have obligations and needs. No need to knock on another style just cause your way works for you. Im just glad their is options.

Why is there no result no matter how hard I try?

Had no idea this video was 2 years ago.. Thank you for these gems.. Liked and Subscribed f’sure..

Where do I find artists who are willing to pay? It seems easy to target a niche but closing a sale with artists is unnatural for me.

Hey, u got a very good point there. Im just right now starting to turn my passion into profession, but Im also a do both guy. Thanks for your input! But please, dont do this awwboard thing - this is horrible and kinda downgrades your decent content. No offense 😉 Peace

This really only works if you have a network of artists local to you who have the funds for pay for this. Which is insanely rare.

Okay but where do i find those artists and how to convince them im good enough to work with me

So, what's the best way to go about finding the indie artists?

key stuff

Dude ... I'm emailing you now.

Great stuff, been producing for artists over soundbetter and airgigs for a few years and trying to hone my messaging on my website. My biggest question is if I produce and help write it for a flat rate does that automatically mean everything has to be work for hire? Is there any way I'm entitled to royalties for what I write too? I want to build passive income too and that's why beat licensing is appealing

do you have a course on this i been to your site and i dont see any courses

How do you reach artists that require this kind of service online?

It actually sounds more aproppiate for all parts, since the artist can make a shitty song with a great beat. But if you are producing the whole song, hopefully there's no longer a shitty-song possibility :)

how much do you make selling beats a month? and how do you connect with those people?

I've made over 100k selling music doing this. I dont sell type beats or cheap beats. I just make music for me and people dig it.

The problem, and the question, you didn't answer is: HOW and WHERE do you find these artists?

good game