Stopping escape | Krishnamurti 

Very true. It's like going to higher mental state. Not dividing but unifying things.

Absolutely true!! To be one with it.. the pain, the sorrow, the happiness... To be very present in that moment..

But the thing is sorrow doesn’t stay for long when the attention towards the feeling, it lasts only a second or so

@@thelearner1982 "In the moment"

And why our world created or invented pornography and gambling and and .... There is something strange behind these things

This are almost are sin but we invented it.Produce nuisance in society

It's invented from thoughts. Maybe those thoughts were given in a form to repeat it and get more pleasure. Repetition gives pleasure and thought makes us repeat to attain pleasure.

but how do we live with sorrow without emotions or self nkt attached to it? by going with it wholly, and how? im a big follower too and wish i had plenty of one on ones with this legend

@@ganeshr5967 We humans tend to over complicate things, and understand or perceive things beyond what it really is. It's not about how to, but to just simply observe sorrow as it is, without thinking of the circumstance that made you feel that sorrow.

Can you please explain it? I didn’t get it.

Labelling a sensation with a word sets a chain reaction of thoughts in motion and thus amplifies the sensation and hence causes suffering

Right here right now right right right here right now right right du du du duh du.. its a song

@@hhk342 what you say I don' understand 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@noelloh561 sing it again

Great comment

Another school of thought is to label. But, if so you don't say I'm sad but perhaps there's an experience of sadness knowing that it's temporary and not you and gaining space/detachment. . Thich Nhat Hanh informs on this. Other than that, can anyone explain the best approach and why?

Thank you ❤️🙏

You will be in tears, it will hurt you deeply for a while.... but be with it with all your energy. Once you are with it, you will liberated from it. That is psychological death, and being free from past is rebirth.

Once you understand what really is what makes you suffer it disappeared. See it as much as you can. What makes you feel this way really ? As long as you don’t find the real reason, then it will come back.

Lol what did you expecf

It depends of what your definition of poverty is

Then compassion emerges

Check video description

He did, sorrow is psychologically poverty and he saying how one can be free of sorrow.

@@anantapoudel959 I think he meant we need to change deeply, completely, so real action takes place, and not just superficial changes

I don't think he had a son, but he lost a close brother who was younger than him. It affected him very deeply. Read his autobiography, it's very interesting.

Just giving example

Where's his autobiography

he was never married and no son, but yes he lost his close brother ( close to his memories by the time he lost his brother )

"The sorrow gets disolved" Your not troubled by them anymore. as he say but we keep naturing by thinking about it. we dont face it. we are always busy nurturing our past or future by thinking about it. although this might take some time to notice the change in us depending on how sensitive we are. Just give it a try its "Magic".

It will disappear. 9 devided by 9 =1 We will swallow the pain (sorrow) The observer is the observed. Complementary halves. Not alone. They compliment eace other… sorrow meet sorrow from the other side and they recognize each other one and the same. Nothing and everything make up non separated divine Unity.

@@praveenkumar-tz6ys Can you explain more buddy?

The separation of the mind from the emotions. We realize the chaos that our mind create (through not thought) and the illusion that we are living.

I got tripped off when i understood that i must not allow any of the 'philosophy, method or text or image to cover the truth about what is inside in me. I must go in and actually see

"The sorrow and rest of it gets disolved" Your not troubled by them anymore. as he say "we keep naturing by thinking about it or follwoing the thoughts of it". we dont face it. we are always busy nurturing our past or future by thinking about it(escaping). although this might take some time to notice the change in us depending on how sensitive we are. Just give it a try its "Magic".

@@praveenkumar-tz6ys So, it is not through "thinking" about the sorrow that we may dissolve it... it is through "feeling"? Or a combination of both?

@@sidstar1001 Just feeling the sensation will dissolve it.

To remember anything is a movement of thought therefore escape

no he he dint mean that. He ment by remembering our sorrow we nurturing it by following the thoughts thats escaping from the actual sorrow. when your wholly with your problem without any movement of thought something new takes place. Try it.

Because we stick to the past. The memory as such is not the problem, but our habit to prolong things, in denial of the actual reality. We sometimes keep sorrow going to only not forget. The intensity of grief seems to secure that the past stays "alive". The same applies to constantly talk about past pleasures and relive them instead of living now. Happy to explain things more, if it helps.

That's a good question. I have given it some thought and here is my reply. I am just exploring this as I am writing. Psychological suffering always takes place in the present. So, when we remember something we are not looking at what is going on right now. So, we could say that we are escaping the present by remembering the past, which takes us away from the present suffering which really is new as it is taking place right now. It has never really left us because it has never been completely dealt with. Suffering is always new. Also, we need to look at all of this not as a way to overcome our psychological suffering but only to understand what is going on and not for the reason to go beyond our sorrow, which is to run or escape. So, why are we looking at all of this? Well, because we suffer and we want it to end. Wanting it to end is a healthy impulse but it also prevents us from looking at it. It prevents us from staying with it. So, there is a conundrum. But how can I understand something and see it for what it is if I have already judged it. My judgment, if I believe it, distorts what I am looking at, so I don't really see the thing for what it is but I am seeing my judgment. The thing K doesn't mention here but says in other talks is that you really can't escape suffering because you are that suffering. Your fear is you. His famous quote "the observer is the observed." This can also mean that the feeler of the emotion is the emotion. But that experiencer thinks it is different from what it is experiencing so believes he/she can escape it or suppress it. We do that because that is the only way we know how to deal with it or we take drugs or escape in other pleasures to medicate ourselves from hurts which have never been fully resolved. And we are constantly creating new hurts. The mind creates you, and the you hurts. K is suggesting there is another way to approach our suffering. We have to find out for ourselves what takes place when the running stops automatically because you see that you cannot run away from yourself.

@@sanekabc So grateful for your generosity and wisdom in expressing K"s talk in clear description. This is the root cause of one's suffering (sorrow), thus it's so very critical that we get it, live it in its fullest in the NOW, no escape... Will it hurt? Ohhhh yes sure!

Instead he has observed it for the fact it is.