Stormgate ► 2 RTS Legends Go Head-to-Head - Clem vs. Kiwian(Bo5) 

Yeah that camp is super easy to aggro, lol. Sovereigns Watch will do it too.

Celestials Don't need to saturate, their economy works very different, one collection array is like having half a full base

@abbyfromirs oh, so if they then do add more does that mean it's useless or do they get even more income?

@@joshh7819 it does add more income but it's too much of a hassle since they're easy to kill and take energy, it's better to get enough to support your current production

@@abbyfromirs okay. Thanks for the info.

@@joshh7819 you're welcome

They're really weak against map control, though. I don't think they're anywhere as bad as Protoss warp and blink and recall mess.

@@WarningStrangerDanger I cant comment on Cel vs Infernals, but I dont see Celestial losing map control against Van. Van right now is forced to open hedge on certain maps, or 1 rax evo. The way Celestials is designed means that you are locked into only 1 or 2 openings off the bat as Van. It was the same in SC2 with protoss when they got the mothership core. Totally removes the fun from the game from a player and viewership perspective.

@Oversear96 The few good Van players I've seen with good map control used their dogs like zerglings to contantly patrol large areas, but yes, the lack of mobility is showing

@@WarningStrangerDanger good idea with the dogs. I always use one to snipe their camps, but getting 2 more is worth it if it buys time.

Thank you for the kind words! I think they know the Celestials are in a bit of a tough spot atm, difficult to balance. They'll almost certainly be a patch before the 13th when it goes F2P so I guess we'll see what they do.

Theres 5 in the game and most are built from the T1 buildings.

@@KBLphan ok... Well I have to learn wich are so because it's not like SC2 :D It's an active ability I think because scouts doesn't sense invisible units if not in a turret....

​@@jonathanberton scout dogs, sentry thing for celestials and doom bringers