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@MrTerry
@MrTerry 10 месяцев назад
I thought you'd be a good one to cover this!
@MannyBXNG
@MannyBXNG 10 месяцев назад
Sup terry
@NewslandiaRela
@NewslandiaRela 10 месяцев назад
YOOOO MR TERRY
@mizcaesar1804
@mizcaesar1804 7 месяцев назад
MrTerry the goat
@hellsSG
@hellsSG 3 месяца назад
Mr. Teerryyy the one and only.
@CharlesRay-rt7jb
@CharlesRay-rt7jb Месяц назад
Hey Terry You’re Awesome too!!! A supporter of VTH gets a lot of respect from me!!!!
@alexfilma16
@alexfilma16 10 месяцев назад
You could make a religion out of this!
@henryconner780
@henryconner780 10 месяцев назад
More like you can base all of western civilization off this ;) Without the Bible we’d be nothing!
@supersonicx7216
@supersonicx7216 10 месяцев назад
No, don't.
@alexfilma16
@alexfilma16 10 месяцев назад
@@supersonicx7216 How bout I do, anyway?
@cobracommander8133
@cobracommander8133 10 месяцев назад
@@alexfilma16no, don’t
@alexfilma16
@alexfilma16 10 месяцев назад
@@cobracommander8133 AND SO THE RELIGION WAS PUT INTO PLACE
@alexschusch7906
@alexschusch7906 10 месяцев назад
Redeemed Zoomer also made a video were he talks about the content of every book of the Bible and what the massage of them are, it's really interesting and definitely worth a reaction.
@alexfilma16
@alexfilma16 10 месяцев назад
The Bible can give me a massage? I gotta start reading!
@jonsampiro
@jonsampiro 10 месяцев назад
@@alexfilma16 The Song of Solomon mentions some hand moves that would still be illegal in all 50 states.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 месяца назад
​@@jonsampiroNo reading Song of Solomon on the Church Retreat!! 🥵🥵😡🤬
@BleakBeach
@BleakBeach 10 месяцев назад
you weaving through religion and science is an art. this is a pretty intense video regarding all the knowledge. my favorite video you have made.
@kevinrhodes3140
@kevinrhodes3140 10 месяцев назад
While I'm Non religious, I actually found this fascinating as I have never fully read the Bible, all I've done is go to a few church gatherings with my great grandparents, but you explaining the events referenced in this video really helped sell some of the ideas the Bible has produced
@frontgamet.v1892
@frontgamet.v1892 10 месяцев назад
Here is a cool perspective: it would be morally more logical to believe in a religion than not to believe in one. Due to the fact that if an atheist dies (or a person who doesn't believe in God) and there is a God then he will suffer eternally in hell. But if a Christian, for example, dies and there is no God... then nothing happens. So the cards are better for a religious person than for an atheist.. In every sense.
@BarnabyCrumplebum
@BarnabyCrumplebum 10 месяцев назад
@@frontgamet.v1892if the only reason you are christian is basically just , “To be safe when I die,” then you aren’t that strong of a Christian
@frontgamet.v1892
@frontgamet.v1892 10 месяцев назад
@@BarnabyCrumplebum YEAH OK I GET IT.. the argument was stupid. Better? Hopefully. I am NOT a Christian.
@BarnabyCrumplebum
@BarnabyCrumplebum 10 месяцев назад
@@frontgamet.v1892 ok. I wasn’t necessarily trying to say you were, if it came off that way sorry, but I was talking about Christians in general.
@BarnabyCrumplebum
@BarnabyCrumplebum 10 месяцев назад
@@smoshfan99999999 exactly my point
@nathansimpson5721
@nathansimpson5721 10 месяцев назад
I'm an atheist but I love your reaction to theological subjects.
@TheRealForgetfulElephant
@TheRealForgetfulElephant 10 месяцев назад
I have this argument with my brother (who is an atheist) all the time Is atheism a religion?
@nathansimpson5721
@nathansimpson5721 10 месяцев назад
@@TheRealForgetfulElephant It is absolutely not a religion. It is a response to theism. Atheism (as myself an atheist defines it) is the LACK of belief in a god or gods. I consider myself to be an agnostic atheist, which means I do not KNOW whether or not a god or multiple gods exist, but I also don’t have enough evidence to be convinced that a god or multiple gods do/does exist. Can atheists also be a part of a religion that does not require belief in a god or gods? Absolutely, but not all atheists do that. Let me know if you need any more clarification :)
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 10 месяцев назад
@@nathansimpson5721 I have the same position.
@billy9497able
@billy9497able 10 месяцев назад
@@TheRealForgetfulElephantit is not a religion.
@JuanNunez2023
@JuanNunez2023 10 месяцев назад
@@TheRealForgetfulElephant Atheism can have religion-like qualities for some people. IE an interest that becomes a core part of their value system and day to day lives. But that doesn't make it a religion due to the lack of faith and worship. You can't have a religion without faith, and you can't be an atheist who is driven by faith. They are incompatible. It's also worth noting that most Atheists don't build their personalities around atheism like high profile online atheists do. Most atheists are simply people that don't participate in religion and don't have any strong feelings against it.
@caseclosed9342
@caseclosed9342 10 месяцев назад
When I was a teenager I actually read the entire Bible in a year. It’s influenced my think throughout my adult life, even though I spent 10 years agnostic before returning to church when I was almost 30.
@NeverSeenAMooseIRL
@NeverSeenAMooseIRL 9 месяцев назад
Based
@samuelljayy6705
@samuelljayy6705 9 месяцев назад
If you read the entire bible and believe it, ur just lost tbh.
@irlAlchemist
@irlAlchemist 9 месяцев назад
@@samuelljayy6705lol. Lmao even.
@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306
@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306 9 месяцев назад
​@@samuelljayy6705"someone doesn't agree with me they must be insane" atheist logic
@kurolap7882
@kurolap7882 7 месяцев назад
@@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306 i don't know how you listen to the first 5 minutes of this actually and don't understand how insane the story is.
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 10 месяцев назад
The phrase that Chris talks about in the beginning is ".אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה‎" (ehye asher ehye) in the original Biblical Hebrew. The repeating verb in that phrase is conjugated in a really interesting way that makes it very vague. The basic way that Biblical Hebrew does verbs is not based on past and present. Instead, it has a distinction between perfect and imperfect; basically, whether an action or an event is over and done or continuous. Like the difference between "He hit me" and "He was hitting me." "Ehye" is the first-person imperfect of the verb that means "to be", and 'asher' is a Hebrew equivalent of "that" or "who", so you could translate it as "I am that I am", as many do, but it could also be interpreted as "I am who I am" (it is self-evident who I am), "I am that I will be" (essentially, "I am eternal"), or "I will be that which I am" (a prophetic interpretation of the messiah, maybe?), and all of these interpretations can be true at the same time because the only thing the verb is not saying is that God has already existed and doesn't anymore. I'm just a boring atheist linguistics student, but I find immense beauty in how the exact language this phrase was written in conveys the message so elegantly.
@keepclimbing2015
@keepclimbing2015 10 месяцев назад
I heard an interpretation recently that "In the beginning" should be translated more like "When God began creating".
@connorlee9007
@connorlee9007 10 месяцев назад
​@@keepclimbing2015correct, Jewish translations render it such as do newer Christian translation e.g NRSVue "When God began to create"
@marie_h1104
@marie_h1104 10 месяцев назад
I should have recognized that he was a Presbyterian; a lot of the language he used to explain stuff is similar to the Westminster divines. I love the commentary, Chris, and I'm glad you chose to react to Redeemed Zoomer!
@superduck6456
@superduck6456 10 месяцев назад
Vlogging Through History and Redeemed Zoomer crossover is something I did not expect. Redeemed Zoomer is great.
@cba2make1up
@cba2make1up 10 месяцев назад
I grew up as a Muslim and the great majority of these events are told the exact same way in the Quran, it's really fascinating. Also I loved every bit of information you added about both historical and scientific stuff, as always I continue to learn a lot from your videos. Appreciate you so much Chris!
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 10 месяцев назад
Usually the Quran would put more emphasis on judgment too and monotheism, and by that I mean in a manner that also rejects the idea of the Christian trinity.
@WestValleyTransparency
@WestValleyTransparency 9 месяцев назад
Of course the Quran has a lot of Bible references. The Book of Revelation was written around 96 CE and the Quran was written in the 7th Century
@HenryFeldman
@HenryFeldman 9 месяцев назад
I’m Catholic, but I have a lot of respect for VTH and Redeemed Zoomer and all of our Protestant brothers and sisters. Viva Cristo Rey!
@walkingtheemmausroad4216
@walkingtheemmausroad4216 10 месяцев назад
The idea of the Apple for the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil stems from medieval Morality plays put on by the catholic church. They needed a fruit to be portrayed, so they used the apple and the idea stuck in pop culture forever. The same is true with Angels having wings (Seraphim and Cherubim have wings, Angels do not) the Devil with horns and a pitchfork, etc. There are several ideas we have about things in the Bible that came from these morality plays from 500-1500 years ago.
@jonsampiro
@jonsampiro 10 месяцев назад
In medieval art, since most people did not read, they would usually portray Biblical characters with some item that defined them or was traditionally associated with them: David with a sling, Moses with the tablets, the Virgin Mary with a blue veil [which the scripture doesn't mention her wearing, but it was used early on and just became part of her brand] etc.. Adam was disginguished by the fig leaf and Eve was depicted with a piece of fruit and in time the fruit was standardized into an apple. (A few early drawrings also depicted them without navels, but that's not as easily noticed as the apple and fig leaf.)
@wes4736
@wes4736 10 месяцев назад
That's simply not true. It's true that it originates from Catholics, but not because to make a morality play, it's because of the Latin language. Malus in Latin means bad or evil, and the apple fruit is also called malus. It's a pun, the fruit brought for evil, malus begat malus. And then in English, because the word Apple meant any general fruit, when seeing the apple fruit depicted as the fruit Adam and Eve ate, that fruit specifically was given the name of apple.
@micahmenrath9032
@micahmenrath9032 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad @wes4736 you mentioned the word apple meant fruit in general. That's where I thought the idea of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil came from. I didn't know it also meant bad or evil in Latin.
@PhthaloGreenskin
@PhthaloGreenskin 10 месяцев назад
So when the bible was translated into the Latin from greek they had to come up with a name for the forbidden fruit. The word apple in latin, Malum can also mean the word Evil if pronounced as (Maloom) with a long u. So that's where the forbidden fruit being an apple comes from. It's a play on words.
@Volaer1
@Volaer1 10 месяцев назад
This.
@jcdiaz4062
@jcdiaz4062 10 месяцев назад
Been Christian my whole life but the Bible is really a historical book just as much as it is a religious text. You can learn a lot of history and context just by knowing the Bible.
@Jane-qh2yd
@Jane-qh2yd 10 месяцев назад
Anything that was EVER recorded by humans could be used to learn history. The only difference is that one must always keep in mind the purpose, context and biases of these recorded pieces of history
@wes4736
@wes4736 10 месяцев назад
A historical book, yes. A history book, no. The Bible is very liberal with it's allegory, so to read it literally will leave one ignorant of both history and scripture.
@Washingtonium
@Washingtonium 10 месяцев назад
​@@wes4736If you read though books like Acts, you realize that it's actually one of the most historically accurate books in existence. It is a very good history book of the early Christians actually. Now, some people think that the early chapters of Genesis are allegorical. I don't, but even if you do think that part is the big is, you have to admit that pretty much everything in the Bible is historically accurate. Every time there's been a disagreement between historians and the Bible the Bible was eventually proven correct. Where do you believe the Bible is allegorical?
@wes4736
@wes4736 10 месяцев назад
@@Washingtonium - I speak of the scriptures overall, not of individual books. Apocalyptic books such as Daniel, Revelation, Micah and Zachariah, are examples of very convoluted books. The Book of Acts is historical because that book specifically is supposed to tell of the history of the Apostles early ministry. The Bible is not one book, it is a compilation of many and so each individual book must be read in a different light from the others, with consideration of past and future revelation in conjunction with the period the book is set and written.
@Washingtonium
@Washingtonium 10 месяцев назад
@@wes4736 I think it's only common sense that when the Bible is talking about history or when it's not. But i think even if some parts aren't dedicated to talking about history, can't it still be a history book?
@Jane-qh2yd
@Jane-qh2yd 10 месяцев назад
Even as someone who is an atheist, theology might be one of the most interesting topics out there
@henryconner780
@henryconner780 10 месяцев назад
Most certainly, the Bible has ideas about human nature from 1800BC that still has prescriptions to help people that modern clinical psychologists use to this day! Which in my opinion is almost scary. How the heck did people from so long ago know this? I’m not religious, but I love theology, history, philosophy and psychology. I’m somewhat religious in that sense. I certainly believe in a god. Perhaps I’m deist like our founding fathers. But I urge you to learn about theology, you’ll learn all about history and human nature!
@Llyd_ApDicta
@Llyd_ApDicta 10 месяцев назад
​@@henryconner780 "... the Bible has ideas about human nature from 1800BC that still has prescriptions [...] to this day" - Can you provide an example?
@henryconner780
@henryconner780 10 месяцев назад
@@Llyd_ApDicta yes! For clinical psychologists and ppl with extreme depression. It’s been studied that the more these people take on responsibilities in terms of why there life is the way it is they can then actually begin to better themselves. Are they depressed bc they are lacking perseverance through suffering? 90% of the time the answer is yes. Judeo-Christian ethics tell us that all humans suffer one way or another it is up to us not to blame others for our state of life but to bear it and work through it. When we face the evils of life head on (like Jesus did) then we will be reborn into someone knew. (That’s the Christian terminology, being reborn, significance of Jesus resurrection) but the same is true if you are religious or not. It’s actually proven that this way of thinking is the most healthy and sustainable. It is not healthy to blame others for you downfall, and it is not healthy to combat evil with more evil. Judeo-Christian ethics tell us (story of Cain and Abel, Old Testament) if we begin to Blame the state of our lives on others we dive into a deep depression (you could say hell) and throughout biblical stories we learn that when it gets to an extreme point, hell is always worse than merely dying. (Hints why people want to commit suicide) It is important to note, whether you believe the stories of the Bible or not, the reason why we still talk about it today is because it holds much morale truth to it. These truths are foundational. The reason Harry Potter stirs a lot of people, is because Harry was born with burdens many of us can’t imagine. What did Harry do? He not only faced evil, he faced evil with perseverance and optimism. Then Harry is actually reborn himself (Harry Potter is exactly the story of Jesus) It is obvious to us now that Harry is the good guy in the story. But it isn’t necessarily obvious that Voldemort is evil without our foundation of biblical ethics. Voldemort thinks he is doing good by keeping magical ppl as one. He is an underdog who thinks he suffered by the hands of tyrants of the good wizards and witches. (This is also exactly what the devil did) This is one example, there are thousands and thousands of books like this because the Bible and it’s ethics aren’t just true, they are the truth. In western society. Every book ever written you’d be able to trace it Back to judeo-Christian ethics. These ethics seem obvious to us now, but that’s because they are quite literally the ethics of western society. So they are almost second nature for many of us. I am not religious per say, but I believe it to be important to know the Bible to a solid degree for these reasons above. Sorry for the long answer ! This is one example of many, and even this example isn’t to full detail. I would urge you to watch Jordan Peterson talk about the Bible and It’s ethics. Or any other person! Keep an open mind and trust me, you’ll learn so much about how to better yourself. I was suicidal for 3 years and sense I learned about the Bible you could say I have been reborn myself! Much love my friend
@Alec0124
@Alec0124 10 месяцев назад
@@Llyd_ApDicta Religion seems to go along with culture. I think the Abrahamic religions were a transition from pagans to unity. Instead of making human sacrifices and the such, we agreed that we could pray to a single god. so absolve our guilt of being human, we may use confession, restitution, and asking for forgiveness. Islam calls is tawba? I can see confession, restitution, and forgiving one's self as a part of psychology probably.
@Alec0124
@Alec0124 10 месяцев назад
The different religions should probably be seen as different methods discovered to help one live, rather than as any being superior to another. But hey. 🤷
@wes4736
@wes4736 10 месяцев назад
It's so cool as a Redeemed Zoomer fan to see a history channel I love watching cover his stuff. It's also gonna be really interesting seeing the commentary between both his Presbyterianism and you being a pastor as a Catholic 😂 4:30 I actually know this one, the reason why it's an apple is because it's basically a pun. The word for bad or evil in Latin is Malus. And the word for apple in Latin is Also Malus, but the vowel annunciation is different making it a different word. The evil is brought forth by the fruit (apple in English also used to mean any fruit) so the Malus brought forth malus, and it's drawn as an apple. Then English gave the word apple specifically to the apple fruit because eating the apple (the fruit) was depicted as an apple, and so the fruit and the name combined in English. It's so cool to see how that little thing has such an amazing story behind it in Christianity, In history, and even linguistics.
@marthamaxey5791
@marthamaxey5791 10 месяцев назад
same here
@MossW268
@MossW268 9 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure Chris is from the Church of Christ, not the Catholic Church.
@wes4736
@wes4736 9 месяцев назад
@@MossW268 - I know. I might not have been clear, but I was trying to say that cuz both are different kinds of Protestant, it would be very interesting for me as a Catholic to hear a bunch of different Protestant positions bouncing back and forth
@Solemgoodbye
@Solemgoodbye 4 месяца назад
The reason why you find tropical stuff in Canada isn’t because of a water canopy that kept the world warm but because of continental drift so Canada was once near the equator.
@pablo2448
@pablo2448 10 месяцев назад
I'm agnostic, and I freaking love the Bible and it's stories
@nathansimpson5721
@nathansimpson5721 10 месяцев назад
Beats Lord of the Rings every single time.
@Thaboggelwoggeler
@Thaboggelwoggeler 10 месяцев назад
Jesus died and loves you man, I hope you find the path brother god bless
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 10 месяцев назад
Yes, but how did Jesus help medieval Spanish Jews, or African slaves? Given Jehovah did used to be... so, hands on, in past...? Also, what does Romans 8:30, say, of... paths.@@Thaboggelwoggeler
@benjaminroe311ify
@benjaminroe311ify 8 месяцев назад
@@nathansimpson5721 well sure. But LOTR is still really really good.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 месяцев назад
The Bible is full of the wackiest stories this side of anime
@Stynegve
@Stynegve 10 месяцев назад
The theory around flood myths that I find most realistic is that all neolithic agricultural societies were in river valleys. Therefore floods occasionally happened in those areas leading to different societies creating their own flood myths independently
@mastadonman
@mastadonman 10 месяцев назад
When the glaciers melted, it almost caused the extinction of humans
@Theophoruz
@Theophoruz 4 месяца назад
​@mastadonman I agree as my theory is that it likely happened after the ice age.
@cervanntes
@cervanntes 10 месяцев назад
When it comes to the Great Flood and the prevalence of flood stories around the world, I’ve always felt people overthink the issue a bit. First, there were a LOT of very significant floods around the world near the end of the last ice age as glacial dams began to melt and retreat, removing runoff blockages while doing significantly to the runoff. A prime example here in the states would be the Missoula floods of the northwest that occurred ~13k years ago around the same time Native Americans were arriving across the land bridge. If you fly over parts of Utah and Idaho you can still see signs of this catastrophe in places like the Channeled Scablands - done this myself and its are-inspiring once you realize what you are seeing. In addition, keep in mind many early civilizations formed specifically around rivers well known for their flooding! Mesopotamian mythology is full of capricious, chaotic gods and regular violent flooding. Egypt mythology is also heavily influenced by flooding albeit for the opposite reason as the Mesopotamians- predictable and helpful rather than chaotic and destructive and the mythologies reflect this difference. China’s founding myth centered around the destructive flooding of the Yellow River and the first effort to control the floods to bring true civilization. Flooding was front and center in everyday life for early civilizations and you didn’t need to flood the literal whole world for a cataclysmic flood myth to be born - you just needed to flood the KNOWN world to each of these civilizations for it to be remembered as a “worldwide” flood. All that said, my personal favorite explanation of the origin of flood stories in early western civilizations is the one suggested in Julian May’s Many-Colored Land alternate history saga. The Great Flood there actually represented the flooding of the Mediterranean basin (which in his story had been dry and inhabited) when the narrow Strait of Gibraltar was cataclysmically opened to allow the Atlantic in. While there is actual evidence for a cataclysmic flood (or even multiple floods) of this nature filling the Mediterranean, they happened much further back - more than 5 million years ago at least so unless we are talking a serious example of ancestral memory, that’s not going to explain the prevalence of flood stories around the world. My money is still on the shared experience of our early ancestors as they grappled with the realities of trying to survive in a world where necessity often placed them in areas where devastating floods were a very real reality and ever-present threat. I’d be more surprised if we didn’t have so many flood legends from early civilizations.
@lliamreusser4534
@lliamreusser4534 10 месяцев назад
I personally prefer the Persian Gulf Theory, which states that the Persian Gulf was once dry and then flooded relatively quickly. Stories from this could spread from there. Plus likely other great floods of the time as well
@georgied8110
@georgied8110 10 месяцев назад
It’s almost like a species dependent on a resource ( water) would have stories about that resource
@leemarshall348
@leemarshall348 10 месяцев назад
That doesn’t explain the myth being in the Americas, East Asia, and Africa though. I think looking for actual examples of floods is getting too in the weeds. The main thing about the worldwide flood myths isnt just the flood themselves, its that nearly all of them explain that the world before the flood was great and after the flood humanity went through a fall, not just an economic fall but a spiritual collapse. I think something is being said theologically rather than spiritually.
@cervanntes
@cervanntes 10 месяцев назад
@@leemarshall348Possible, although again, there were some major floods in the Americas right around the time the Natives were beginning to arrive here as I mentioned in the very beginning of my post, so it's also very possible they witnessed some of the catastrophic floods that occurred as the glaciers of the last Ice Age retreated and carried those stories down through oral tradition. A lot of flood stories around the world could derive from the glacial retreats during the last couple of Ice Age cycles, in fact. As far as East Asia and Africa are concerned, I already mentioned China, where the regular devastating floods of rivers like the Yangtze and Yellow regularly figure in legend and mythology. Like Mesopotamia, catastrophic flooding in China had a significant influence on the development of religion, culture, and social structures for millennia. Don't know so much about Africa other than the Nile civilizations which very much wove floods into their core belief system for obvious reasons. The earliest known flood story is from the Epic of Gilgamesh (interesting read, by the way) and closely resembles the story of Noah, so much so that its hard not to think they both were based on the same older story that had spread around. In any case, I still believe that the catastrophic flooding that occurred as the glaciers retreated during the last ice age and the fact that so many early civilizations by necessity developed in, as the original "History of the Entire World...I Guess" so colorfully put it, dank river valleys; places where flooding was just a fact of life...and death. I think its easy these days to underestimate just how devastating floods could be in the past -- using China as an example, the 1887 Yellow River flood is estimated to have killed over 900,000 people. For people living in the affected regions, it must have seemed like the end of the world. As another example, the Missoula Floods in the northwestern portion of the U.S. were on an almost unimaginable scale and given that they occurred during the early period of migration across the Americas, stories of floods like these could easily have spread far across the continents to the ancestors of many of the later cultures. While the exact details of those floods are still debated, last I heard there was probably around 30-40 floods at around 40-50 year intervals between them as the glaciers retreated, each one releasing massive amounts of water across multiple northwestern states that left colossal visible scars that can still be seen today. It's believed that water up to 300 ft deep rushed across some regions at speeds in excess of 60 mph to give these events some sense of scale.
@tetricuscm
@tetricuscm 10 месяцев назад
@@cervanntes Also, imo when you know the consept of flooding, it doesn't take much to make up a story of this huge world wide flood. And when that gets passed around long enough it becomes a myth.
@AmirSatt
@AmirSatt 10 месяцев назад
Sir, your channel is the one of the most informative and entertaining on the whole platform. Keep up the good work🙏
@ryantannar5301
@ryantannar5301 10 месяцев назад
Mentioning the sin, judgement, restoration cycle in Judges was the giveaway that this guy really knows his stuff.
@jenniferpajor5365
@jenniferpajor5365 10 месяцев назад
I think the guy who originally made this video is super religious. Hence, why he is “redeemed.”
@ryantannar5301
@ryantannar5301 10 месяцев назад
@@jenniferpajor5365 he is, but that idea is something you don't usually see talked about outside theology nerds and academic circles. There's exceptions but you won't really hear about it in the average church
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 10 месяцев назад
Or why Satan kept powers... what 'spiritual death' means for angels, vs the inheritable human kind... and also, what Eve did know, of stakes, to more than two lives... Sorry - just, stuff that curiously enough... does not seem to come up, all that often. Or if, the premise of Romans 1:20, held as strongly, with angels, pre Revolt (but I assume, it held no better...) Just a minor tangent, there.@@ryantannar5301
@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc
@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc 9 месяцев назад
Well, he is a self described theology nerd.
@roseedge5626
@roseedge5626 10 месяцев назад
Seriously, thank you for this! Your commentary on this was really wonderful! I've been struggling with my own faith for a while, but your commentary made a lot of this easier to understand!
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 месяца назад
Don't give up. Pray for more faith, and it will come.
@jawar5673
@jawar5673 10 месяцев назад
Wow, I was not expecting a Redeemed Zoomer reaction. I am very pleasantly surprised!
@PJDMC5306
@PJDMC5306 10 месяцев назад
One of the really cool things about the Bible too is that so much of it echoes previous stories. For example, Noah builds an ark, coats it in pitch, and they survive the waters. Moses's mom builds a mini arc (same word in Hebrew for Noah's Ark in the Moses account for the basket of reeds.) Coats it in pitch, and Moses survives the waters because of it. This sort of wordplay happens all over the place.
@CzarLazar1389
@CzarLazar1389 2 месяца назад
Jonah rests in the belly of the big fish for 3 days and is then spat out. Christ rests in the tomb for 3 days and then resurrects. This is called 'typology' and occurs everywhere in the Bible.
@Aeliasson
@Aeliasson 10 месяцев назад
Would be cool to see an "Alternative History" style episode on what could've happened if Adam and Eve hadn't tasted the forbidden fruit... Also 10:53 a shame you didn't pause to read the nation names, there was an Empire of Ohio covering half of USA's footprint.
@thebrahmnicboy
@thebrahmnicboy 10 месяцев назад
Well what would happen? Today would be the same as yesterday and tomorrow would the same as today. There would be no need for the planet Earth and they would live in Heaven. Because there's no need to have children if there is no death.
@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc
@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc 9 месяцев назад
There wouldn't be a history. Everyone lived happily ever after. The eternity.
@kevinyoung5033
@kevinyoung5033 9 месяцев назад
I just found your channel a few months back. I've enjoyed every video but for some reason have not subscribed to your channel. (I'm selective on channels I subscribe to) but when you said you were a Pastor, I hit the subscribe button! I'm a Pastor in Northern New York and I love history! It's just nice to find a channel of someone coming from a similar world view!
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 месяца назад
The *perfect* guy to react to this!! I know it's not what you do, but I'd love to see an interview with you two. It'd be an interesting conversation! 😁👍🏻
@TheJuanqui1
@TheJuanqui1 10 месяцев назад
A theory of why we call it an apple in our English language because the old English word for fruit was apple. And we speak English and one of the most influential versions of the Bible is KJV
@johnwhittaker311
@johnwhittaker311 10 месяцев назад
I’m not a Christian myself but have spent most of my life surrounded by it (I’m in rural part of England, where ideas of “traditional English” remain strongest). There are many stories in the bible that to me personally don’t feel like they’re true, but my view has always been that it actually doesn’t matter. As far as I’m aware, most of the stories in the bible have a moral message, particularly in the New Testament. What’s important, in my opinion, is not whether these stories are true, but that we learn the moral lessons they provide. That way we become better people to both ourselves and others. I think every religion shares this goal, actually: to help people be the best person they can be. It is why I’ve never understood why people are so ready to dismiss all religions because they find it unbelievable. Regardless of whether it is believable, it is helping people be better citizens, and therefore it should be welcomed. Of course, religion isn’t perfect (nothing is), but I think it does more good than bad.
@CUZZZZZZZskalzzz
@CUZZZZZZZskalzzz 10 месяцев назад
As a Christian myself, thank you! It is not often you see people actually be respectful, openminded, and reasonable, your comment was refreshing. Also, I don't know if you actually care, and I don't want to bash you with apologetics, but IF you are interested, I just thought I'd let you know that a lot of the stories in the Old Testament have been proven, corroborated, or semi-proven, and I just think that is really cool and adds a little bit more credibility. But alas, I don't want to go on an apologetics rampage, and besides you seem to have ascertained the point of the stories whether they are real or not, so it doesn't really matter. But just thought I'd share that if you/anyone is interested in learning more about the historicity of the Bible.
@pastformal8354
@pastformal8354 10 месяцев назад
@@CUZZZZZZZskalzzz the reason non religious folks are often not openminded and reasonable is because of apologetics. I think religious people fail to see how damaging apologetics is to the image of your religion from the outside. Religious apologetics don't come off as scientists and historians attempting to contextualize and prove the bible to atheists. From the atheist perspective apologetics is like a snake oil sales man trying to prove the effectiveness of their products by citing a crack doctor. Because people like you talk about how "Stories from the bible have been proven, semi proven, or corroborated." Semi proven/Corroborated means actually literally nothing in the context of a 2000+ year old book that has been mistranslated between ancient languages that we don't even properly speak or read as a species anymore dozens of times over. You can corroborate something from the bible with historical evidence but whos to say the event the bible is describing in the modern translation your sect uses is even remotely properly translated? You could very well be trying to corroborate an event that never happened, or at the very least didn't happen the way the bible describes it as happening. A good example of this in this video is Chris talking about historical and geological evidence of a flood story amongst lots of cultures. While its true that many cultures from the areas in and surrounding where the stories of the bible take place do have a flood story, the lack of written history and geological evidence from large portions of the world at the time immediately discredits the bibles specific flood myth. If there was truly a globe spanning flood we would have similar records of it and/or geological evidence of it from other areas of the globe, like north and south America. For example I live in northern Canada and none of the aboriginal peoples religious/spiritual stories I have had the pleasure of being told by elders in the community mention anything of the sort. Like the original commenter said, the important things non religious folk can draw from the bible ARE the moral messages. I have yet to see an argument from an apologetics perspective that was even remotely convincing to me. In fact most of them fall apart under even the tiniest bit of objective scrutiny, to the point where when these things are being debated religious apologetics, not just Christians, often turn to ad hominin attacks or other logical fallacies. If you would like to see some of the debates I am talking about the channel cosmic skeptic has many such debates posted in full and analyzed in post on his channel.
@LC-sc3en
@LC-sc3en 10 месяцев назад
Religion in itself can be a force for good and I think a lot of people who aren't religious don't mind so much those who only use religion for community, good, or benign purpose. We have a lot of atheists who are extremely vocal against religion because a lot of them have directly been hurt by people who justified their actions with their religious views. People sometimes lash out in vengance, because they belive that by doing so they will convince someone and therfore save someone from pain (a lot like some proselytizing religious people), or because they want to feel heard and agreed with as their lack of faith has isolated them in one way or another from the communities in which they were raised. Even small things like sharing grief can be difficult as an atheist in a religious community. In certain areas it is worse than others. But historically and presently people are killed, oppressed, and thrown from their homes on the basis of religion and it's rules. Science has also been used to justify evil as well, but science is wholly concerned with understanding how things work and behave and outside of the scientific method and peer review doesn't command people to behave or think of others in specific ways. Therfore, with science it is easy to say the evil done in its name was the choice of the specific person or culture and science did not lead them to it. Meanwhile with religions you get a lot of religiously motivated hate crimes, things like witch burnings, and other religiously driven moral panics and herirarchical systems coded as inherently moral. Currently, there are a lot of tensions in some countries as far right religious movements are becoming very influential and actively making things worse for people who don't share their religious views (atheist or simply the wrong type of theist). Unfortunately, a lot of begnin and good religious people get caught in that backlash. It is my hope that one day people will feel no need to attack or defend regardless of religion or philosophy.
@sarascarpati887
@sarascarpati887 10 месяцев назад
Hello to both of you , thanks for the respecfil tone
@flintlockwoodhd7932
@flintlockwoodhd7932 9 месяцев назад
Be for the word “fruit” was used pretty much anything that grew off a plant was called an apple which eventually changed as language began to change and new languages came to be so that’s why it’s still called an apple Tldr: “apple” used to be the word for “fruit”
@yongjieshi5768
@yongjieshi5768 10 месяцев назад
I've been watching both of your channels for a while and they came together which i was not expecting
@queenjayneapproximately
@queenjayneapproximately 10 месяцев назад
The reason people think of an apple when discussing the forbidden fruit is because in the middle ages when monks were making illuminated manuscripts they would illustrate the forbidden fruit as an apple. Why? Because the word for knowledge and the word for apple in Latin were very similar and the monks did it as a joke.
@thorthethunderdawg5289
@thorthethunderdawg5289 10 месяцев назад
My guess as to why everyone thinks its an apple straight from wiki...Apples appear in many religious traditions, often as a mystical or forbidden fruit. One of the problems identifying apples in religion, mythology and folktales is that the word "apple" was used as a generic term for all (foreign) fruit, other than berries, including nuts, as late as the 17th century.
@wigglycinema7801
@wigglycinema7801 10 месяцев назад
Loved this video and your commentary on it! Great job expanding on the video!
@Ironguy-gm6vf
@Ironguy-gm6vf 10 месяцев назад
As a Conservative Christian myself I was looking forward to this one😂
@IamnotfromUSA
@IamnotfromUSA 10 месяцев назад
Just a question for people who believe in god. If god is all powerfull and knows everything then how can you have a free will or choise or are you okay with not having free will and choise because god knows what will happen right?
@MannyBXNG
@MannyBXNG 10 месяцев назад
@@IamnotfromUSAGod does give us free will We can do anything we want but with the consequences of going to hell If we listen to the Word of God we go with him in everlasting life
@IamnotfromUSA
@IamnotfromUSA 10 месяцев назад
@@MannyBXNG How can we have free will if god knows what will happen to us? This is the question
@IamnotfromUSA
@IamnotfromUSA 10 месяцев назад
@@MannyBXNG If there is a being which knows our destiny then it is set already and we have no choise that is how I think about it.
@valurimist9861
@valurimist9861 10 месяцев назад
@@IamnotfromUSAI would argue that free will doesn’t exist- I am what some Christians might call a Calvinist, which means that I take a theistic determinist view on God
@JurasJankauskas
@JurasJankauskas 10 месяцев назад
I think it's interesting to look at the different references in the bible, not so much as a religious text, but as an historical document with local folklore thrown in. You get this rich story of a people of a certain nation living through years of hardships and different struggles, while trying to maintain their own country and compete with rival tribes/nations. And then if you look at the more magical elements of the story, it's quite fascinating how a lot of them almost directly come or reference details from other fantastical stories or religions at the time. For example, we have these really wild sounding descriptions on the different kinds of angels and what they looked like, and while they look extremely weird in our culture, they have almost direct counterparts in the old Babylonian religions.
@williamwallaceoftheus8033
@williamwallaceoftheus8033 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for giving a shoutout to The Chosen. It really is a great show & this is coming from someone who thinks most Christian entertainment is garbage
@thewalkingcontrarian257
@thewalkingcontrarian257 10 месяцев назад
I am personally Deist but I do love learning about Theology and the history thereof. Redeemed Zoomer has some great videos on the history of Christianity that perhaps you should also look into. Love your work, as always, Chris.
@Frazier16
@Frazier16 10 месяцев назад
Why r u a deist
@thewalkingcontrarian257
@thewalkingcontrarian257 10 месяцев назад
@@Frazier16 It just makes the most logical sense to me.
@jacobb17
@jacobb17 10 месяцев назад
@@thewalkingcontrarian257 I used to be a deist. At the same time though, I believed in Jesus and the more I read I personally began to see that miracles, divine intervention, and such things were very important to God and my belief in him. I don't really know what term to describe what I believe, I guess Non-denominational Christian. I'm curious as to what specifically you believe in?
@captainkrajick
@captainkrajick 10 месяцев назад
​@@jacobb17i think you should look into Bible believing Christianity!
@clonecommando6575
@clonecommando6575 10 месяцев назад
Loved it, Redeemed Zoomer did an excellent job covering a very condensed version of the Bible! As a brother in Christ and lover of history I appreciate hearing you review the history of the Bible. I also understand why you are careful with this subject and try not to force beliefs on others given this diverse community. Still would be cool to have you in a Bible study though!
@Leviticus_Prime
@Leviticus_Prime 7 месяцев назад
If you think about it there are actually two versions of the creation of mankind. In the first part , it says god created male and female at the same some time. And then later talks about him creating eve. There were a few christian sects that noticed this and wrote scripture to explain it. The Gnostics believed that Adam had a wife before eve, named lillith, and that Adam didn't like lillith, because she was his equal. Adam requested a new wife who would be subservient to him and God gave him eve from one of his ribs. The agnostics believed that lillith felt that God had turned his back on her to please Adam, and that she opened the gates of eden for satan.
@seaotter4439
@seaotter4439 9 месяцев назад
It's said that the apple became the forbidden fruit because of a mixup with or perhaps a pun on two Latin words in the Vulgate translation. There's "mālum," related to the Greek word for apple, μηλον, and "malum," meaning evil. So, illustrators who knew Latin wanted to make a joke about the word for apple and the word for evil, or maybe they got confused, and that's how we get the apple as the forbidden fruit.
@thehalobrony9050
@thehalobrony9050 10 месяцев назад
Even though I am leaning atheistic, I am super fascinated by all of this, and especially to hear more insight by people who believe. I am someone who (if I were a believer) would argue that "fixation on if this text is historical or if it is a literally descriptions, is missing the forest for the trees" if you catch my meaning.
@hafhgh6177
@hafhgh6177 10 месяцев назад
Again another well done reaction video and great job keeping biases out of the subject!
@loganlabbe9767
@loganlabbe9767 9 месяцев назад
I heard an interpretation once where the temptation was not a trick, the choice was not a mistake, and the results were not a punishment. There is no suffering in the garden, but people, let alone gods do not Grow in gardens. The serpent was also God, represented as two beings because of the divide in his motivations. He did not want is to suffer, but had a responsibility to allow us to leave and grow into something greater if we chose. It's the only interpretation I've heard that makes any sense to me.
@commieRob
@commieRob 2 месяца назад
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe it actually says in the Bible that the snake in the garden was the devil. I believe that's an interpretation that became popular in the early Middle ages.
@dustinfrey3067
@dustinfrey3067 9 месяцев назад
I am a pastor as well, I attended/attend Midwestern Baptist Theological seminary here in Kansas City. In my studies I took comparative religions course. Our final was to meet a different religious leader, attend thier religious service, and then write an essay about that experience. I chose Islam and met with a local Imam. I spent quite a bit of time digging into the faith of Islam beforehand. I have read and studied much of the Quran, Hadith, etc. I would be interested in sharing what I know, if you wanted to reach out. It may help to prepare to react to a video on Islam.
@e1123581321345589144
@e1123581321345589144 10 месяцев назад
Magi is the name of the Mazdeist priest of Iran. It's also where we get the word "magic" from
@SleepyPotterFan
@SleepyPotterFan 5 месяцев назад
This is kind of a neat concept and I really do applaud you for sitting down and try and rationally look at this. Since I’m a historian, too, though, it’s always helpful to remember the intent and context of a text before picking up a trowel to go digging. The Old Testament was not written to be a documentation of historical truth. It CANNOT be. History does not work the way the ot is written and the concept of recording history for history’s sake and…factual chronicling of events is a much more recent concept. Like all other myths, they’re moral stories or etiologies for what the people of that time thought. The evolution of linguistics in no way can jive with the Tower of Babel story. Many societies have a flood myth to help explain fossils of fish and the like that happen, and there wasn’t a single period when parts of the earth were warmer, there were many variations in climate throughout its history. You also have to consider that many societies also considered themselves to be at the very least the omophaloi of their worlds, but usually, mythological conceived of themselves as being isolated, surrounded by the world sea (just like Genesis😮) so, when that area experienced a catastrophic flood, the way it’s recorded is that the WORLD flooded. They aren’t verifying each other. There is no possible way to reconcile flood myths and history. Also, it’s pretty archeological clear at this point, that religions DID NOT devolve from a proto-monotheism. Most religions (including the religions of the region in question) were a blend of polytheism and animism and had been for thousands of years. The world did not start off monotheist and then fall away to other religions, humans have a tendency towards reverence and one of those traditions (actually, a handful), developed monotheism later. I don’t want to write an entire reaction to the reaction, but the TLDR: There’s nothing wrong with reading a mythological text for its symbolic value especially when that’s how the document was written.
@evelinaairapetova5827
@evelinaairapetova5827 10 месяцев назад
Would love to see a video like this on the Quran and other religious texts. That was fun
@Panthror
@Panthror 10 месяцев назад
Here's what I consider to be an interesting bit: Noah's grandfather Methuselah (a.k.a. the oldest person to ever live) died at age 969 in the same year the flood that Noah was saved from covered the Earth, so quite possibly he drowned in that flood. So if humanity would've had behaved just a little better he might have been the first true millennial when he hit 1000 years of age.
@CanuckGod
@CanuckGod 10 месяцев назад
There's also a rabbinical tradition that Methuselah died 1 week before the flood came, and that a transliteration of his name could be read as "his death will bring", which some took to mean that when he died, the flood would soon come to pass.
@ryanmendels6548
@ryanmendels6548 10 месяцев назад
Yeah but even VTH said in a previous video that that reason the ages are so high is likely because of badly recorded or confused translation between months and years. 969 months would be an 80 year old man which would be an amazing feat back in the early stages of civilization.
@squiggles5640
@squiggles5640 7 месяцев назад
never understood how god could be benevolent and still pull his whole collective punishment schtick throughout the entire old testament
@Sun_worshipping
@Sun_worshipping 10 месяцев назад
Hey Chris I just want to say love the video even if I’m more agnostic I really love how you gave a non biased perspective on the video I even learned stuff I didn’t know. If your interested in learning about the quaran and other religions, theirs a RU-vidr called Cognito who has those types of videos you were talking about at the end. Again great video Chris and keep up the good work.👍🏼
@kubricklynch
@kubricklynch 10 месяцев назад
He definitely gave a biased pro christian perspective. Which is fine, but don't trick yourself into thinking there isn't bias here.
@090giver090
@090giver090 10 месяцев назад
Redeemed Zoomer also has a video "Story of every Christian denomination, i guess". That also be interesting to see your reaction to it, as it deals as much with history as with religion itself.
@JustAnotherAccount8
@JustAnotherAccount8 9 месяцев назад
Atheist who's read the bible here. I personally never interpreted the presence of the tree of knowledge as a test, but instead, in Gods love, was put there for choice. I always interpreted it as a way in which God didn't want humans to be trapped with God if they didn't want to be, so He gave them a choice.
@dimitris_zaha
@dimitris_zaha 7 месяцев назад
As a Christian i think you're right
@Leviticus_Prime
@Leviticus_Prime 7 месяцев назад
Lucifer isn't actually his name either. Lucifer actually is a greek word that means bringer of dawn. Some scholars believe that the greeks gave him this title as a translation of his original title of the morning star in Hebrew.
@mattpouard5698
@mattpouard5698 10 месяцев назад
I've heard you mention the misconception about the apple before. From what I understand "apple" was just another word for fruit. See the French for potato for example, "apple of the earth", or pineapples (basically pine fruit).
@RockSmithStudio
@RockSmithStudio 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for pointing out that the Bible never said that there were 3 Magi. Always noticed that when reading Matthew, even as a kid
@msitts98
@msitts98 10 месяцев назад
I’ve been hoping for a video from you like this. I was raised Roman Catholic and still am. But I’ve never actually read the Bible itself, just when passages were read during Sunday mass. I grew up going to religion classes so that I could make my first communion and then later to be confirmed, but not once did someone teach me about the Bible itself and how it’s layed out and all that jazz. It’s nice to finally see a start to finish summary video from you since you add valuable extra information.
@HothVeteran
@HothVeteran 10 месяцев назад
10:54 I am disappointed you didn’t see the Empire of Ohio.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 10 месяцев назад
I'm really disappointed I didn't see that!
@HothVeteran
@HothVeteran 10 месяцев назад
@@VloggingThroughHistoryfor April fools next year can we get a video on the History of the Empire of Ohio? With your work in Genealogy you can tell us about your ancestors who lived in the Empire and whatnot.
@keepclimbing2015
@keepclimbing2015 10 месяцев назад
Have you ever watched inspiring philosophy's Exodus series? Super interesting. Makes the case for Ramses II being the Exodus pharaoh. Also Ryan Reeves history of Halloween that just came out is a fun video.
@motionpictures6629
@motionpictures6629 10 месяцев назад
32:00 The Herod Baby killing story is interesting. Herod never tried to hunt down Jesus, but we know that he was given the task to hunt down Caesarion, Cesar's son with from Cleopatra, the other "son of god" at the time. And the Bethlehem story only makes sense, if you know that the only reason to visit your father's hometown at the time, was not a census, but to registrar as a Roman citizen. Jesus was a roman citizen, and citizens could not be crucified. Jesus could have ended his crucifixion by just stating "I am a Roman citizen".
@nucklechutz9933
@nucklechutz9933 10 месяцев назад
I highly recommend Crecganford's channel, not necessarily for reaction content, but because I think it is an absolute crime that more biblical scholars are not studying indo-european myth and phylogeny, and more phylogenists aren't consulting with theologians to get a sense of how actual living religion and faith systems operate in real time.
@glory2christcmj702
@glory2christcmj702 3 месяца назад
I'm a Christian, and I remember when I read for the first time the story of the golden calf disaster of Exodus 32, and it was one of those instances where I could feel what I was reading. When God tells Moses what the Israelites were doing, and how Joshua then tells Moses, "I can hear the sound of war in the camp," and Moses responded it was the sound of singing. I could feel Moses's anger from off the page as he destroyed the calf and spoke to his brother Aaron about why it was happening.
@Yopmemama
@Yopmemama 10 месяцев назад
The apple comes from a Latin pun because both apple and evil are similar in spelling/ pronunciation
@ryansoule8934
@ryansoule8934 10 месяцев назад
I’ve seen a theory that the great flood is related to part of a comet hitting the earth followed by a torrential downpour from the comet ice being vaporized on entry, along with flooding from the ice sheets melting. This along with the fact that most civilizations were along rivers or coast lines means the rain made the rivers flood, and with ice melting, the sea rose by potentially hundreds of feet in a relatively short period of time. Might help explain stuff like doggerland, Egyptian cities that are underwater, cities off the coasts of Asia, and more that are still being discovered. Don’t know if it’s true or not, just thought it was an interesting possibility.
@StillRooneyStarcraft
@StillRooneyStarcraft 10 месяцев назад
I strongly disagree with mentioning the water canopy hypothesis in the same sentence as the theory of the Big Bang, even with all those disclaimers. The water canopy is creationist "science".
@broad_cat
@broad_cat 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, I came here right after hearing that because its.... really hard to listen to that. 'All the Earth was the same humidity and temperature and rain had never happened before?' Really trying to put a round peg in a square hole there. also: tropical plants in the poles means the whole earth was the same temperature? also: Men used to live longer because the water canopy shielded us from UV light? I really don't mean to be rude, but those are some *huge* distortions of 'science' trying to make it mesh with the literal word of religion. Its just heliocentrism in different clothes. I find it harmful to say there are 'scientific hypotheses' around these subjects, when science takes a backseat to religion here. This isn't to say the Bible is lies or that there aren't some people who believe these things, but giving these ideas any shred of credibility beyond that is something we should be careful about propagating.
@twistedmovies8782
@twistedmovies8782 10 месяцев назад
It's all hypothesis...what he's getting at is that it can't be proven, so it's just as plausible as any other thoughts.
@broad_cat
@broad_cat 10 месяцев назад
@@twistedmovies8782 hypotheses have to be rooted in evidence, both derived from and in the pursuit of. They're a means to an end which follows a process. What the creationist 'science' above is is more rampant speculation and backwards logic. It only uses science as a framing method to co-opt its credibility, because it, itself has none. I'm really not trying to be harsh here, but have to firmly push back against that 'unknowable-ness' being used to justify any thought under the sun. Which revolves around the Earth. But that's just a hypothesis :P
@jarrettlowery2802
@jarrettlowery2802 10 месяцев назад
@twistedmovies8782 except it isn't just as plausible. There are plenty of theories and hypothesis that are 1000x more plausible than that
@twistedmovies8782
@twistedmovies8782 10 месяцев назад
@@jarrettlowery2802 can you prove it didn't happen?? No. Then it's plausible.
@castledapper8234
@castledapper8234 10 месяцев назад
This was very well done. Thanks so much for doing this video. I look forward to more.
@AdamNisbett
@AdamNisbett 10 месяцев назад
I think the canopy idea has kinda faded from popularity among creationist scientists these days though yeah, it was a theory that made the rounds for a while. It seems to not mesh well with what’s described - if there was a significant vapor canopy then the sun moon and stars wouldn’t have been visible for instance. But regardless there could have still been significant differences in environment pre/post flood. The genetic impact of a population bottleneck combined with the advanced age of Noah when his sons were born (we now know that mutations passed on from the father accumulate proportional to age of the father) seems to be a better explanation for the rapid life span reduction.
@davetremaine9688
@davetremaine9688 4 месяца назад
I've watched like 5 of your videos so far reacting to Rome stuff and as soon as you said you were a pastor I said, to myself "oh how did I not notice before?"
@rebelfriend6759
@rebelfriend6759 10 месяцев назад
I honestly don’t really have any belief system, but I love hearing the history and getting inferences based on sources like this
@svenrio8521
@svenrio8521 10 месяцев назад
I would watch a super extended version of Chris explaining the Bible. A Bible Study if you will.
@highlander4224
@highlander4224 10 месяцев назад
Love this video! I'm an atheist with little knowledge of the actual history of religion. More videos going into detail with all the history would be brilliant my man!
@Trippyisop
@Trippyisop 10 месяцев назад
As someone who was a Christian for 18 years I have never been more certain with my decision to stop practicing faith after watching this video 😂 the video turns an already ridiculous story, translated multiple times over thousands of years only originally written down more than 30 years after Jesus died, that’s played out like a bad joke and then to hear this dude recite what the video is referring to in the Bible with such enthusiasm while talking out of his ass with so much confidence is truly mind blowing, people will believe anything, religion was created by the few to control the many and make themself wealthy in the process, that’s literally all it is and continues to cover up some of the most disgusting and continuously vile human activities of all time. It’s sad seeing this brainwashed garbage..
@clubin_to5789
@clubin_to5789 10 месяцев назад
Ok
@anxietywhombat4882
@anxietywhombat4882 10 месяцев назад
So cool to see two of my favorite channels in one video! I never expected this!
@drivinganddragons1818
@drivinganddragons1818 29 дней назад
I'd Love to hear your commentary on the 90s A&E show Mysteries of the Bible
@joelnl2313
@joelnl2313 6 месяцев назад
4:35 I've heard many different arguments for why the tree of knowledge was in the Garden of Eden. And while as an atheist I am definitely biased, if not being a bit nit-picky here. But I really dont think the "It is a test" argument makes sense, at least to me, as someone with a very limited religious upbringing. First off the whole concept surrounding the original sin is very... dubious, to me personally at least that is. Adam and Eve were meant to live in perfect innocence before they ate from the tree of knowledge: They had no concept of good or evil, since before they disobeyed God, evil as a concept did not yet exist. And without evil, there is no good either, there is just the status quo. So if this is the original sin, and before that the concept of sin or good or evil were never established in the first place, how can you test someone based on a definition not yet established? But also, take babies or children now, they are very curious, they experiment, they get hurt, sometimes they get disciplined. But all of this is vital for us to learn what is right and wrong. They never had that phase if they were never children. Does that mean God alreay provided them with this knowledge of morality when they came into existence? But how could he if right or wrong never existed at this point? Perhaps a bit redudant at this point, but also almost every decision all of us make comes from a complex combination of nature, nurture and experience. Now, the bible I believe doesn't experience any timeframes for this. But I'll assume they have little time to create many experiences before this event took place. And even if they did, they were supposed to be perfectly innocent beings, greed was not yet a thing at this time. So even if they spend years in paradise were they were granted everything, they could not have turned into 'spoiled brats' as you sometimes see with kids these days being given everything they want. That leaves nature and nurture. Nurture would again also depend on this timeframe, if it were hours or days that they had existed before they disobeyed God, it can not really be taken into account, if it was years, than perhaps part of the blame could fall onto their Father, or in this case, quite literally, God. But since he is perfect, that would not be plausible. Which leaves us with nature: The story of the Tree of Knowledge can be taken into two different perspectives, the inherently more negative one, resolving greed, which again, I don't think would be accurate since greed should not yet exist here. Or, human curiosity. Human curiosity is a deeply complex multifaceted trait that has roots in again both nature and nurture, but if the time frame wont allow for this we would have to emphasize the nature part of it, or, genetics. Not every creature has this inherent curiosity, a lot of animals have a deep need for specific structures that they strongly adhere to or start to distress. So while it is not unique to humans, in the context of a creator, there should be a conscious reason to give humans this specific trait. So even here you could argue there is a part of the "blame" you could put on God. But, this whole part is mainly me trying to explain the behavior it self. Of course, there is way more context surrounding this situation that does not just attempt to justify the actions taken, but would, if I actually remember correctly, even explain it. I'll try to keep this part shorter as I'm not extremely well versed in the bible, so in short: God is omniscient, him putting the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden being a test would thus make little sense given that he would already know the outcome of this action. Especially given the fact that it wasnt Adam or Eve who just randomly decided to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, but rather Satan who seduced them into it. Of course, God being omniscient, would already know this would happen. So, while you may argue that He wanted us to know beyond a reasonable doubt that we were the cause of our own missery, by providing us with this test. How could we possibly say it was us who He was testing? Why can't it be his own angels? I mean, I know the answer to this one, because it says so in the Bible. But to me it's just a fun little thought exercise. But in short, if you have two perfectly innocent new people in paradise; where they have everything they could ever need or desire. Who have no learned experiences through generations of experimentation, or knowledge on morality from either a societal or a religious context. Who then get seduced by the first ever angel to fall, to disobey God as well. That just hardly seems like a test. Now, please do know, even though I said that I am an atheist, that does not mean that I made this entire lump of text to try and dissuade people from religion, nor do I intend to start a debate here about the existence of God or not. I have genuinely tried to be as open and respectful as possible in this, but my knowledge of theology is rather limited and since English is not my first language so some things might potentially come across as something they are not intended to be. But I am also very interested in learning about different religions and like to watch debates for instance both in favor and against this. Not so much because I myself am still doubting, but just because no matter whether the Bible or the Quran or the Torah are real or not. They are still deeply interesting pieces of literature with undescribingly profound impact on history, culture and just people themselves. And given your background in Theology, I was just curious if you could explain to me why you do view it as a test taking everything into considering.
@codygates7418
@codygates7418 10 месяцев назад
It’s interesting because you could even say Women were some of the first Christians. Mary followed God’s Word and raised Jesus, and Mary Magdalene followed Jesus and was often known as the “first disciple”.
@MbSaidSo
@MbSaidSo 10 месяцев назад
A propos of nothing... had NO idea you are a pastor, but that made your take on this content more interesting. I was raised Catholic, and grew up with all the stories. Even though I now follow a more Pagan path, I cannot completely discount the Bible stories. Thanks for one again mixing politics, history and adding religion in a thought provoking and balanced way.
@MrGforce52
@MrGforce52 10 месяцев назад
I love biblical history and investigating if it really happened. Please do more of it.
@WeesloYT
@WeesloYT 10 месяцев назад
I wish this video approached the Bible historically rather than theologically. As someone who studies the Bible from a historical perspective, so much of this stuff is modern theology.
@wofuljac
@wofuljac 10 месяцев назад
Mr Terry History did.
@WeesloYT
@WeesloYT 10 месяцев назад
@@wofuljac I’ll have to check him out!
@Chooopy
@Chooopy 10 месяцев назад
I'm an atheist, but that doesn't changing anything with respecting what you do. I don't hark on anyone practicing their religion how they please AS LONG AS they aren't pushing it on other people or actively affecting other people's lives with their beliefs. That being said, I'm really do like learning about religion in history. I'm drawn to the dark age and medieval imagery of religion (which has been influenced a lot by games) and I find it fascinating. I'm also subbed to ReligionForBreakfast, and they do some really great secular videos into the history of religions or specific religious subjects.
@robertsomersette4789
@robertsomersette4789 9 месяцев назад
There is a great RU-vidr by the name of Metatron. Who dives deep into biblical scriptures and Jesus himself.
@Roman_Eagle
@Roman_Eagle 10 месяцев назад
It's rather interesting that the ancient Greek creation myth of humans is VERY similar to the Old Testament, with shared stories and traditions and all that. In the Greek creation myth, Zuse is a board with an empty world and wants some non-immortal beings to interact with so he goes to the titan Prometheus who makes men out of clay, then (I think Hera) spits on them to give them life and Athena gives them thought. Prometheus wants to teach humans everything but Zuse is afraid that they will become like the gods and overthrow them so forbids Promthius to give them fire (a metefore for the divine spark of creation) Prometheus disobeys and gives humans fire, but Zuse finds out and plots revenge, punishing Prometheus and giving his brother (forget his name) the first human female Pandora. Zuse then gives Pandora a jar and tells her not to open it, the Pandora's jar myth then plays out. Eventually, Zuse decides to start over and begins a great flood that kills all the humans except (I think either Pandora or her kids and Promethisue's brother who's immortal anyway) but humans get re-seeded into the world (the first true humans we all descend from) and Zuse decides that he would just use them for worshipers but evil and divine fire is still amongst the humans meaning eventually humanity will outgrow and overthrow the gods. I'm writing this off the top of my head so there may be some inaccuracies or differences due to translations or plain mistakes.
@liarwithagun
@liarwithagun 10 месяцев назад
Almost all Proto-Indo-European descended religions (Basically everything that wasn't southern Africa, some of Eastern Asia, and the Americas) have that same general creation myth idea because it was the creation myth idea of the original proto-indo-european religion which spread with their conquests back in prehistory. Other elements are the original god/being dividing up their body to form parts of the universe (think Ymir, Geb, Pangu, etc.). There are more common elements as well. Like two primordial or originating sons, sometimes twins. Think Cain/Abel, Romulus/Remus, Osiris(or Horus)/Set, etc. Just google proto-indo-european religion if you're interested in learning more.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 10 месяцев назад
So Zeus: has someone else make man, all the gods partake of this, zeus denies man fire, when he is tricked he unleashes the issues of man up in the world I swear guys will look at the most hairs breath similarities and act as if thier analogous what part of this is actually similar to genesis God: makes man at the beginning of time, is the only being to make man, gives man a garden and free willx gives then the option of life and death, they listened to the deception and are cast out Where is the similarities
@fusel5883
@fusel5883 10 месяцев назад
As someone that grew up in a non religious household and had not much interaction with any religion, besides my ancient greece phase, I've got a question about the tree and test thing. If the tree is suppousedly giving knowlege of good and evil, as the name suggests, so if its just a misnoma please correct me, would't Adam and Eve not be awear that disobeing God would be a bad thing one should not do? Like, to them caring for an injured animal and killing one just for fun would be eaqually moral, as in not at all. Like drinking water or opening an window to us. edit: also dont christians usally belive God knows everything? wouldnt that mean that he set up a test he knew they would fail?
@marie_h1104
@marie_h1104 10 месяцев назад
It's possible that they haven't eaten from the Tree of Life before they disobeyed. As far as God being omnipotent, there are traditions that say that He knew what would happen and had planned to redeem humanity.
@fusel5883
@fusel5883 10 месяцев назад
@@marie_h1104 Isnt the tree of life the other tree? I am confused... So a test, set up they would fail so Sin gets into this world, which maked everything shit and causes a lot of suffering just to redeem humans? why is that step in the middle necessary
@rumigraciea8216
@rumigraciea8216 10 месяцев назад
the flood myth similarity can be attributed to the fact that civilization need to be near bodies of drinking water for irrigation and other needs and more likely than not they would all experience flooding especially in earliest days where people have not developed tech to counter that.
@kevinjohnson4498
@kevinjohnson4498 10 месяцев назад
"community of a variety of different belief systems who are almost welcome".... funny how much that sentence changes if you say almost vs all most
@guitarguy7487
@guitarguy7487 6 месяцев назад
4:43 this actually is because apple used to just mean fruit. Over time, apple grew to mean the specific kind of fruit we know as apple.
@violetleporid
@violetleporid 7 месяцев назад
The beginning of John with "In the beginning was the Word" is actually playing on the Greek concept of logos ("word"), since John is the gospel that was directed towards the gentiles so he was trying to relate it to their ideas.
@terrancejohnson8455
@terrancejohnson8455 10 месяцев назад
“We’re not here to break down the history of every story” No. Yes we are. Chris I been watching your videos for at least a year now, and as someone who believes in god but doesn’t subscribe to Christianity or any other religion at this exact moment, midway through this video, this is the most interesting anyone has ever made biblical history (props to the original video maker as well) but your breakdown or real history to tie into something I thought had very little historical accuracy is so interesting and I hope you do more videos including this period of history seeing as you’ve studied extensively on it. Also thanks for another great video.
@hoosierdaddy9373
@hoosierdaddy9373 10 месяцев назад
Best explanation I've heard to understand the 3in1....think about it like water. Liquid, ice & steam....one thing, but in 3 forms.
@marie_h1104
@marie_h1104 10 месяцев назад
Technically, that is modalism; it was considered heresy by the early Church as early as Tertullian (About early 200s.).
@backseatgamer7367
@backseatgamer7367 10 месяцев назад
As a Jedi....these are not the dorids your looking for...
@amberlee6878
@amberlee6878 10 месяцев назад
I love your content! Thanks for all these videos that you do! -fellow Northeast Ohioan
@lucianobertoncasanovas4342
@lucianobertoncasanovas4342 10 месяцев назад
8:25 I read that during this time the strait of Gibraltar was closed so water of the Atlantic couldn't get into the Mediterranean and many people settled in the coast of it, the something of a earthquake opened the strait and the amount of water was so much the water level of the Mediterranean grew so quick that it buried the settlers
@lucianobertoncasanovas4342
@lucianobertoncasanovas4342 10 месяцев назад
I forgot to mention that not only the Bible but some other civilizations have documentation of a big catastrophe happening at that time which were not believers of God, so it is very possible that it actually happened
@danielbishop1863
@danielbishop1863 10 месяцев назад
XKCD's "Time" is about a distant future repeat of this event.
@overlord3051
@overlord3051 10 месяцев назад
Would be genuinely interested in hearing your take on the verified historical texts and archaeology pertaining to the Bible's stories.
@CharlesRay-rt7jb
@CharlesRay-rt7jb Месяц назад
VTH, you do a great job at depolarizing conversations!!! You’re one of my favorite history RU-vidrs for that reason!!! I hate Woodrow Wilson too!!!
@ahmadburhanhabibi
@ahmadburhanhabibi 10 месяцев назад
Didn't expect you would react this! Lets see your commentary on that.
@ahmadburhanhabibi
@ahmadburhanhabibi 10 месяцев назад
One thing I noticed is your bias is too strong on this video. understandable though.
@PresidentFunnyValentine
@PresidentFunnyValentine 10 месяцев назад
"And let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel."
@jacobduncan2142
@jacobduncan2142 10 месяцев назад
If Adam and Eve have no knowledge that disobedience is evil, how can they be held accountable for doing so?
@MannyBXNG
@MannyBXNG 10 месяцев назад
Because they didn’t listen
@jarrettlowery2802
@jarrettlowery2802 10 месяцев назад
​@MannyBXNG but if they had no knowledge of good and evil how can they be judged for not listening?
@MannyBXNG
@MannyBXNG 10 месяцев назад
@@jarrettlowery2802 God told them don’t be fooled, and don’t do anything without him telling them to do something
@jarrettlowery2802
@jarrettlowery2802 10 месяцев назад
@@MannyBXNG right, but they had no concept of good and evil. You can't be expected to do "good" and not do "evil" if you have no understanding of those concepts. It's like giving moral instructions to a toddler and punishing them for not following them
@MannyBXNG
@MannyBXNG 10 месяцев назад
@@jarrettlowery2802 no because we are born with knowing what’s evil and God told them not to follow other beings but him God made made them with them knowing Good and evil they just betrayed God
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