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"Fowler's Ghost" is the nickname given to an experimental fireless 2-4-0 steam locomotive designed by John Fowler and built in 1861 for use on the Metropolitan Railway, London's first underground railway. The broad gauge locomotive used exhaust recondensing techniques and a large quantity of fire bricks to retain heat and prevent the emission of smoke and steam in tunnels.
After trials on the Great Western Railway in 1861 and in London in 1862, the locomotive was considered a failure; on its first trial it was near to exploding, and problems with steaming and pressure retention were never overcome. The locomotive was sold in 1865 with the intention to convert it into a conventional steam engine, but it was quietly scrapped in 1895.
The locomotive was considered an embarrassment to its designer, the respected engineer John Fowler (who later designed the Forth Rail Bridge), and its existence was denied for many years; the sobriquet "Fowler's Ghost" was given to it by The Railway Magazine in a retrospective article in January 1901, and this has subsequently become the standard reference name for the engine.
The Metropolitan Railway was designed to run through covered tunnels in railway cuttings. At a railway select committee in 1855, Fowler had stated his intention "to start with our boiler filled with steam and water to such capacity and of such pressure that it will take its journey from end-to-end." To avoid problems with smoke and steam overwhelming staff and passengers on the covered sections, Fowler proposed a unique fireless locomotive. However, early experiments with these steam accumulator locomotives had failed.
The locomotive was built by Robert Stephenson and Company at their works in Newcastle upon Tyne. It was built to broad gauge specification with a 2-4-0 wheel arrangement with tender. The boiler had a normal firebox connected to a large combustion chamber containing a large quantity of fire bricks which were to act as a heat reservoir.
The combustion chamber was linked to the smokebox through a set of very short firetubes. Exhaust steam was re-condensed instead of escaping and fed back to the boiler. The locomotive was intended to operate conventionally in the open, but in tunnels dampers would be closed and steam would be generated using the stored heat from the fire bricks.
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@6777Productions
@6777Productions 4 года назад
Came close to exploding and had problems keeping pressure... So right in the middle is the perfect operating pressure!
@HSMiyamoto
@HSMiyamoto 4 года назад
"Fireless locomotives" used to be popular in railroad tie creosoting plants, and even lumberyards, and many survived conventional steam locomotives by many years in the U.S. However, they were only used to switch cars at slow speed, and so their low power was acceptable due to the absence of fire danger. It also helped that they could be readily refilled with steam, since they never strayed far from the plant in which they worked.
@the_retag
@the_retag 4 года назад
They are by far not low power they can shunt heavy trains but they dont have a conventional operation mode and have to be refilled with steam
@thomasm1964
@thomasm1964 4 года назад
Hannah Miyamoto In the UK, we used fireless locomotives in places like paper factories, ordnance factories, gas plants and other places where there was a high risk of fire and/or explosion. See www.brc-stockbook.co.uk/fireless.htm
@harrymu148
@harrymu148 2 года назад
tbh I've thought that a nuclear age steam locomotive would just need to refill on water and when parked, it could produce steam for a stationary engine that produced electricity or the like.
@mariocar0727
@mariocar0727 4 года назад
I remember this from the British railway stories
@SynchroScore
@SynchroScore 6 лет назад
Imagine all the commuters surprised to see a steamer puffing through the station. Now, what is that car right behind the engine? Looks like a freight truck, but with louvers in the sides.
@Espiel78
@Espiel78 6 лет назад
This is excellent, and I thank the OP for sharing. Here, in the U.S., I well recall " fireless cookers" used in power plants and the like, where they would simply draw steam from the main boilers and use that energy to move coal hoppers around. There was no firebox, nor a fireman for that matter. I might also add that, in my opinion, British steam locomotives were some of the most interesting, well engineered, efficient and just beautiful machines produced anywhere in the world. Seeing one in steam is thrilling!
@sockshandle
@sockshandle 6 лет назад
Salvatore Lowry in terms of load capacity american locomotive designs were best (they were heavy so lots of Tractive effort could make a fair amount of steam and could haul (i believe at least) Far more cars than a British steam engine which in terms of railway income (Freight makes far more revenue than passengers) so while they may have been less Efficient in terms of coal&water usage than British designs and to some look ugly the amount of revenue that is made from freight contracts is better than passenger oriented Revenue (i respect your opinion i should say)
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 4 года назад
@@sockshandle They're each optimized for their specific needs. The US is much larger geographically, hence longer trains and larger locomotives make sense. There's simply no need for larger locomotives in the UK, they wouldn't be useful or practical there. But the UK prided itself on speed and engineering prowess for their express passenger trains.
@DAKOTA56777
@DAKOTA56777 2 года назад
@@quillmaurer6563 Indeed, every nation built its machines to their needs. American engines were simple and powerful, good for long hauls in the vast distances between developed areas, British engines were sleek and fast, following with Britain's image for prestige, however I'd say French were probably the most efficient, due to the lack of large coal reserves encouraging France to develope complicated compound engines that most would consider too expensive to be worth.
@HSMiyamoto
@HSMiyamoto 4 года назад
Thanks for reminding us that the Metropolitan Railway began as a broad gauge railway, matching that of the Great Western Railway.
@ralfoide
@ralfoide 4 года назад
Thanks for this story. Many of the early pioneer locomotives had interesting designs. There is no shame in trying and failing.
@thepenguinflipper7973
@thepenguinflipper7973 4 года назад
Wow I didn't know this. Sir John Fowler is my great great great great grandad, we went to go see a bridge that he has made a few weeks ago cus it's something that is known in my family
@Busterkeatonrules
@Busterkeatonrules 4 года назад
OK, I was expecting a ghost story, but I'll still leave a like for this.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 6 лет назад
Says the steam accummulator type locomotives were a failure whilst showing an example of a more modern successful design. Early fire-less steam locomotives might have been failures, but they were developed and have been used successfully for many years in places were sparks were a major hazard.
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 5 лет назад
Yes, the use of fireless steam locomotives was common in industrial areas where spark ignition was a hazard; even d.c. traction motors were not a good idea, with sparks inside the motor or anywhere in the power supply.
@albymaulana9531
@albymaulana9531 5 лет назад
Hello
@retrogamelover2012
@retrogamelover2012 4 года назад
Basically, the issue with Fowler's Ghost was a case of it being too ahead of its time, in an age where technology for fireless engines were a long way from perfection.
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 6 лет назад
I've always thought this was an admirable, although eventually quite poor, attempt to run underground steam. Sure, on paper, putting the steam back into the boiler, rather than the chimney, makes logical sense, but considering the use of fire bricks as a "heat battery" so to speak doesn't really seem like it would be too effective for long periods of time, especially with the fast accelerating you'd want on the 'Met'. The loco itself doesn't look bad either.
@NorbertRoll
@NorbertRoll 6 лет назад
Excellent again.
@peckelhaze6934
@peckelhaze6934 6 лет назад
These are very interesting indeed and look forward to more.
@usmale4915
@usmale4915 5 лет назад
Very interesting and educational video. Thank you so much for the upload!
@FellowManofAggieland
@FellowManofAggieland 4 года назад
Who’s here from the British Railway Railway Series?
@ZstackZip
@ZstackZip 4 года назад
Ayy
@mariocar0727
@mariocar0727 4 года назад
Oh yeah
@AndrewHager02
@AndrewHager02 4 года назад
I am.
@evertonblake7320
@evertonblake7320 4 года назад
Me
@blackstone1a
@blackstone1a 4 года назад
yoooooo!
@GreatGlynndon
@GreatGlynndon 4 года назад
Wow that was a awesome vid!😮😮😮😮👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😯😯😯😯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😮😮😮😮😮😯😯
@damnedman0455
@damnedman0455 3 года назад
I’m guessing some of these people have seen the British Railway Series and know of Fowler’s Ghost that way, I do have to say, that video is quite a classic for me.
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 6 лет назад
That underground railway track looks like lionel fastrack.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
holy moly
@mrbeenlardin
@mrbeenlardin 6 лет назад
There used to be a fireless locomotive in the storage shed at Abbey Pumping museum at Leicester.I was told it was used in the power station and filled up with steam at points around the power stations yard area.Generating electricity causes a lot of excess steam.I have no idea if it is still there or if it is the same thing as in the video.I will investigate.
@lukechristmas3951
@lukechristmas3951 5 лет назад
I first heard about this mysterious locomotive in an episode of, "Railways of Great Britain." I had no idea just how deep the true story was behind this fascinating locomotive!!!!!!! I'm sure, because of its name, that many railway fans like to discuss this engine on Halloween!!!!!
@abpccpba
@abpccpba 6 лет назад
Very interesting topic. Have just subscribed.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 5 лет назад
We had some fireless locomotives in the U.S. They worked.
@callumw9809
@callumw9809 4 года назад
We don't have guns in the U.K that works for us.
@Marco-xz9sc
@Marco-xz9sc 4 года назад
Callum Walker yah, but people still get stabbed a lot
@Panzerfanlol
@Panzerfanlol 4 года назад
@@Marco-xz9sc and burnt, don't forget burnt. (with acids)
@blackstone1a
@blackstone1a 4 года назад
Callum Walker no need to be a dick
@PlaneBoy2520
@PlaneBoy2520 4 года назад
these are different ya goober, our fireless locomotives were just meant to use steam, not coal and water
@mildly_miffed_man1414
@mildly_miffed_man1414 6 лет назад
Holy heck its good
@deathmisser85
@deathmisser85 6 лет назад
Please do some more uk steam prototypes loco.
@gerrard1144
@gerrard1144 2 года назад
In java, there's a fireless railway, and it worked
@fx6r
@fx6r 4 года назад
Wow
@goneutt
@goneutt 6 лет назад
Actually, if the steam trains had developed steam condenser systems, the USA would look different. Many smaller rural towns only grew around watering stations.
@duckandchicken7580
@duckandchicken7580 6 лет назад
Can you do an episode on gwr no 111 the great bear?
@TrainsTrainsTrains
@TrainsTrainsTrains 6 лет назад
Yes it is on our list x
@jdemata8115
@jdemata8115 6 лет назад
What I mean to say is look at the looks of the locomotive
@rhino2960
@rhino2960 6 лет назад
hmm...creepy name instilling a superstitious feeling, a grainy old photo of it, and an unconventional means of locomotion...this sounds like a good basis for an SCP to me.
@FlyingScott
@FlyingScott 6 лет назад
There is a ghost story about it, look it up.
@RamanShrikant
@RamanShrikant 4 года назад
@@FlyingScott Wheres it at?
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
@@RamanShrikant The British Railway Series Episode 27
@harrymurray2515
@harrymurray2515 6 лет назад
If only someone made a replica of fowlers ghost that really does work.
@gregthomas7950
@gregthomas7950 4 года назад
Sounds like he was too hard on himself. New technologies require development and rarely work right the first time. Probably was hard to get funding to work out the bugs.
@giglepiezon0323
@giglepiezon0323 6 лет назад
I like broud guage tracks.
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 2 года назад
The exhaust was very hot and would burned burned footbridges and possibly singed enthusiasts hoping to watch it pass underneath.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 6 лет назад
Looks like a Lionel 3-rail AC train layout. Was the center rail actually powered, or was this some sort of weird dual-gauge track?
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 6 лет назад
William Squires Brunel's Great Western was built to a seven foot gauge (7' and 1/4" actually) and in places where it shared facilities with other lines, a third rail was added, rather like the D&RGW had dual gauge for both standard and three-foot trains in some places. The broad gauge was converted to standard and the last seven foot train ran in 1897, I think. (Don't feel like Googling it or looking in the book I have.)
@julyleonard
@julyleonard 4 года назад
This locomotive appeared in brws.
@joshbreck3489
@joshbreck3489 4 года назад
Oh yeah those experiments and mr fowler failed
@NathanielPiscian
@NathanielPiscian 3 года назад
Sir John fowler wish to create the first ever subway back in the day if only had the technology
@adamlounes5213
@adamlounes5213 3 года назад
One of these days we will find a tank engine with a loaded machine gun in its boiler.
@thebluejintythomasthetanke587
@thebluejintythomasthetanke587 3 года назад
Sounds like something that the Nazi's would do because they used steam more than Diesel because of its strength
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
that would be badass
@gtafan2006
@gtafan2006 4 года назад
What if there was an electric steam engine that used a tender full of water and the boiler was heated with electric heating elements like in waterheaters? With overhead or third rail power options
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 4 года назад
A wheel connected dynamo would recharge batteries in the tender
@hexxoid9263
@hexxoid9263 4 года назад
Too many energy steps: electricity-heating element-water-pistons-motion, rather than just electricity-traction motors-motion. When there are more steps to convert energy forms, more energy is lost, and thus is it less efficient.
@Rob-fc9wg
@Rob-fc9wg 2 года назад
Some European countries converted coal boilers to electric electric boilers during WW2.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 6 лет назад
At 0:50 it looks just like the N line in Brooklyn. Unfortunately, it never saw steam.
@cityjamesman1306
@cityjamesman1306 6 лет назад
0:50
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 6 лет назад
Thanks...I just changed it.
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 6 лет назад
Jeffrey Ornstein Actually the Sea Beach line, like the other former BMT lines to Coney Island, was a steam railroad when it opened in 1878. In 1897 the BRT converted it to trolley wire and it was later rebuilt into its current form as mostly open cut. Steam has never operated on it as now configured, however.
@jdemata8115
@jdemata8115 6 лет назад
Fowler's ghost is so creepy
@kupferbergbahn7952
@kupferbergbahn7952 6 лет назад
It is known as Fowlers Ghost because no one knew what it looked like until a photograph was found. Nothing creepy about it if you ask me.
@jdemata8115
@jdemata8115 6 лет назад
The locomotive looks scary
@jdemata8115
@jdemata8115 6 лет назад
The appearance of this locomotive is scary. That's what I meant to say
@melanieandao5115
@melanieandao5115 4 года назад
That is real?
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 4 года назад
Didn't produce smoke. Didn't produce much steam either!
@theextremeanimator4721
@theextremeanimator4721 5 лет назад
There's money for a replica of that loco
@thomashambly3718
@thomashambly3718 4 года назад
But why would we want a replica of a loco that never worked properly?
@theextremeanimator4721
@theextremeanimator4721 4 года назад
@@thomashambly3718 To right its wrongs and make it work!
@theextremeanimator4721
@theextremeanimator4721 4 года назад
@@thomashambly3718 ^ ^'
@thomashambly3718
@thomashambly3718 4 года назад
@@theextremeanimator4721 but why bother, we could make other locomotives that were successful, like a replica of an Atlantic, or a sterling single.
@theextremeanimator4721
@theextremeanimator4721 4 года назад
@@thomashambly3718 The Sterling Single still exists, but it must be overhauled... And...I think there's already some atlantics that were preserved... But still....touché.
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 4 года назад
Thermodynamics was still in infancy. Massed firebrick couldn't store much heat- water would've done much better. It was NOT fireless. Pipe dream.
@RCassinello
@RCassinello 6 лет назад
Genuine question, but the was the steam loco in this video actually in steam? Can't help but feel that the steam looked quite 'CGI' at times (particularly with how quickly it dissipated in the widened lines cutting), but it might just be RU-vid compression artefacts? I notice the electric loco in rear, too.
@klipsfilmsmelbourne
@klipsfilmsmelbourne 6 лет назад
Fowlers ghost episode
@markfrench8892
@markfrench8892 4 года назад
If it couldnt produce steam, how then could it create enough pressure to blow up. That makes no sense to a steam locomotive engineer like myself.
@tim3172
@tim3172 3 года назад
Damn, I wish there was a video that could explain what happened... such as 3:44 in this video which literally explains what happened.
@Oscar-xj1nd
@Oscar-xj1nd 4 года назад
A tank engine with a number 1 hhhhmmm
@Parishchamp
@Parishchamp 6 лет назад
This might be the kid side of talking but that train kind of looks like Emily from Thomas the tank engine.
@lukechristmas3951
@lukechristmas3951 5 лет назад
Not exactly. Emily is a GNR Stirling Single 4-2-2. These engines weren't built until the late 1800s. Fowler' s Ghost was built before that.
@kenet71
@kenet71 4 года назад
Emily?
@keldeostudies2279
@keldeostudies2279 5 лет назад
This just by the name of it. It could be a ghost train on Thomas and friends well somewhat of a ghost
@noname-ug7ki
@noname-ug7ki 3 года назад
Fowler's gost 👻💀☠ train
@ruthrelland2489
@ruthrelland2489 3 года назад
Tireless
@tinyengineshed34
@tinyengineshed34 4 года назад
666 likes.
@qfluff8891
@qfluff8891 6 лет назад
Creepy
@johnhagen5891
@johnhagen5891 4 года назад
Nomorecomme tsoeiwillcomplain
@spamvoid78758
@spamvoid78758 6 лет назад
Narration by David Mitchell? Has his annoyed-for-no-reason tone.
@Ostan-jw2bg
@Ostan-jw2bg 6 лет назад
Is it me or are you a retired TAF narrator now making your own videos about British steam engines on the internet making some money and gaining some popularity and subscribers without you telling them that you ARE a retired TAF narrator.
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