No, you're not! I was there and it was awesome. And after 10 years, Timo is still one great live singer, he just learned his limits and now doesn't push his voice to the limits
my friend, i listen to stratovarius for 13 years now and saw them live about 20 times. not to mention that i am a musician myself for about 20 years. tolkki is just playing scales that sometimes fit to be the ones he recorded.
TK singing in Episode Album: "thaaaaaaaat's whaaaaat Iiiiii aaaaaaam aaaaasking now" 15 years ago some live concert: "that's whaat I aam aasking now" In this Video and nowadays: "that's what I am asking now"
Guys stop giving Timo shit hes one of the most talented singers of all time, and hes amazing live, and on this song to, maby not this particular performance, but come on? when you sing like that god your voice is bound to go a little flat some nights
Tolkki exprimió a kotipelto por completo, le saco lo mejor se nota claramente. Al salir tolkki de la agrupación kotipelto ya no canta en ese tono en vivo, y que bueno porque se escucha que se esfuerza mucho. Fuera de eso hicieron discos geniales entre tolkki y kotipelto entre los mejores (para mi gusto) "episode" y "visions".
this is the second time i see kotipelto fucking up one of my favorite power metal melodies/phrases of all time, being the one at 1:02 and being the first one i saw him fucking up the chorus of distant skies..
I was just trying to sing some of Stratovarius' high vocal parts and I think the problem is that they are always pitched at the break between high chest voice and low head voice. It is really difficult to switch between them smoothly and still always have power. The voice often cracks if you're not totally on the ball. Unfortunately, IMHO, in this video, Kotipelto is suffering from not making his mind up which notes to sing in head voice and which to sing in chest voice.
I'm a musician as well and I can tell when Tolkki plays something the same way or not. Every time they played speed of light his solo was the same pretty much, same with Kiss Of Judas for just a few examples. I'm not claiming he's perfect, but underrated.
How's that wrong? Improvising is a technique used by most guitarists during solos. Everybody from Joe Satriani, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimi Hendrix, Yngwie Malmsteen to Randy Rhoads, Al Di Meola, Steve Vai, and Glenn Tipton all improvise their solos.
he leído algunos comentarios en los que comparan el hoy en día de kiske y kotipelto, no hay por donde compararlos, kotipelto siempre ha tenido problemas de afinación y de no llegar a los tonos en vivo, a diferencia de kiske, es cierto q los años te pasan la cuenta pero creó q no hay comparación en la calidad vocal entre ambos
+Marco Silva En un momento quizas si se pudo llegar a comparar, si miras los performances del 2003 - 2004 para ser precisos son geniales... Ese habra sido su mejor momento, igualmente de que kiske domina mucho mas la voz no hay duda, pero simplemente yo preferia la de kotipelto por su timbre (antes de que cambie)
+GudBisnes! concuerdo contigo además a kotipelto se le fastidio la voz porque cantar esas notas tan altas durante mucho tiempo le afecto aque a mi no me importa para mi strato será para siempre la única banda para mi en cuanto a kiske es cierto canta exelente pero ese tío dejo de cantar una buena temporada además las notas de sus canciones no son tan altas a ecepcion de march of time claro
14 лет назад
@emiblindside Listen carefully... the drummer is not free from mistakes... and Tolkki's solo is just random notes....
Este fue el inicio del fin del la "banda" (porque siempre fue tolkki).. en una entrevista dijeron que casi no habian ensayado para este recital.. ya estaba todo mal
@empeltdenavelina I've seen some live shows where Kotipelto sings even better thank Kiske...unfortunately not everytime. Kiske is a god by the way, i love is Place Vendome albums
it is wrong, because tolkki is improvising ANY solo he ever "wrote". he does not play a single note as it should be. i can not take this as "good playing" :)
@NeonVomit I've seen Matias last year and god the kid is good, can certainly play......Timo Tolkki at his best is out of his league and out od many other guitarist worlwide, this has to be said.
Puedes buscar el tour elements del 2003 - 2004. Incluso registros de conciertos del año recién. La gira destiny 99 o la promoción del infinite. Busque.
En el album Visions of Europe su performance es muy respetable. Pero si se queda muchas veces un poco mas corto en vivo que otros. Lo mismo pienso de Manowar.
Kotipelto is realy strugeling, but then again, he started to strugle before Halford, Geof Tate and maby Kiske. I'm not sure about Kiske cause I've heard him lately and he still can do it. Maby sloppy at warming up. ...
Siempre he preferido los agudos de Tolkki, es más, siempre que Kotipelto canta cualquier canción de los 3 primeros discos en los que cantaba Tolkki, los agudos los hace ridículamente mal. Con esto no quiero decir que no me guste Kotipelto eh, pero las cosas como son.
"anybody here wanna hear some fast tracks? This song is a from, i think, Visions album" ...WTF Visions? lol....someone tell to Kolti, this song from Episode album...haha!!!
Is too bad that Kotiptelto's voice sounds tired. It's the same thing with Kiske, they are getting older and their voices is going with their live. I hope we can enjoy Stratovarius by much more time.
FUE UN GRAN WACKEN ESTE, PERO STRATOVARIUS AKI NO SE VE EN SU MEJOR PERFORMANCE COMO EN EL WACKEN 2003 , SE NOTA LA HOSTILIDAD KE HAY ENTRE TOLKKI Y KOTIPELTO.
Chorus fail :S I love Stratovarius, but my ears and heart hurts when I see how bad they sometimes played these oldies. Kotipelto's voice is about to shatter. And how about TT's and TK's double vocal harmonies - what the fuck seriously? Well this is pretty damn hard song to play though. And they are doing better now again. Respect!
15 лет назад
Oh lord..... wtf with Kotipelto and the Drummer... And Tolkki...
@NeonVomit too bad that guitar skill not goes with the same songwriting skill..........don't get me wrong ...i thought polaris was very good work but not even close to the songs that TT wrote for the band...... i would rather listen to rev renaicense and symfonia instead of the new strato cd
:'( pobres, me encanta stratovarius pero debo admitir que esta cancion en vivo fue una mierda T_T Iugalmente Stratovarius es la segunda mejor banda de power metal :D
I love the song on the record, a great and catchy power metal-song. One of my favourite songs from Stratovarius. But I can't stand this performance - really, really horrible. Jörg is doing as good as he can, but Kotipelto sings both higher than his voice can and also totally out of step (especially in the end).
Bull. Listen to the solo in "future shock" and "hands of time" and then go flush your head down the toilet for sheer idiocy. Not too mention Tolkki plays his solos pretty much the same way live as on the album at least most of the time.
Oh man... Kotipelto's voice sounds horrible... It's a shame, I have never seen them live, and now that Tolkki has leave, I have less interest in going to a gig of them, I hope it just happened in that concert...
la peor versión de stratovarius que he esuchado en mi puta vida del ascoooooo (el solo de la verga , la voz no le llego al tono, el baterista se desfasa) lastima
Have to face the fact. They sound just overally sloppy and disinterested, low point of Strato tbh. Only Lauri at Bass and Jens are performing musically well.