Street Fighter Alpha 2! Patched & Fixed! Plus Music Mod on a Real SNES! - YoVideogames 

Didn't the patch fix the music? Cause I hear different tunes. I know the voices weren't changed.

@@MetalGateDragon I meant it as the music mod being different from the loading issue patch, and wasn't something originally in the game to be fixed. In short, the music wasn't what was broken.

The music is from the arcade version which is better than the remixed music on ps and Saturn, and the snes music. PS2 has an arcade perfect port though.

@@MalikM-VGM-Rand The music and sound programming of the original version is the main reason why the loading was so bad, so the MSU1 patch having streamed music means that the loading doesn't happen.

@Gaming0taku Yeah you're partly right, but I'm just talking about how the mod changes the music to the arcade ost. The MSU1 patch alone allows the arcade music to play, however there were other "hacks" used to bypass the sound samples loading. The only issue with the original music was that the size of the sound samples being sent to the SCP chip were abnormally large in size and thus, caused the loading issues. If the sound samples were lowered in size like how they were supposed to be, the loading would be better if not, non-existent. So I feel it's not entirely the music's fault, but rather the processing of the SCP chip.

It is a MSU1 game, it is pretty much the other name for the Nintendo playstation , new everdrive emulate the CD player and memory mapper needed for that so outside en everdrive it would need the Nintendo playstation come out.

Except i want snes music to be intact instead of copy pasting arcade music on it

Street Fighter Turbo and Super SFII had that music stopping bug as well on SNES. Turbo Hyper Fighting the music is supposed to fade at the end of a round not abruptly stop at the you win/lose voice. Super music is supposed to play through between rounds 1 and 2.

@@robkrasinski6217 The music stopping is not a bug. The SNES audio subsystem does not have enough RAM to keep all the announcer voices in RAM with the gameplay audio, so when the game needs to play back "You Win", the SNES needs to halt the audio subsystem (which stops all the audio), unload the samples already in RAM, and load in the "You Win" sample and then play it back.

It was released the way it was because SFA2 for the Saturn and PlayStation already existed by the SNES version came out. This fixed port requires additional hardware (the MSU-1 chip) that did not exist when this port was made and an absurd amount of ROM (over 300 megaBYTES) to store the pre-recorded arcade PCM music on top of the 32 megaBITS it already uses. Capcom could not have released this hypothetical cartridge in 1996 without it costing at least $200, and at that price, people should just buy a Saturn or PlayStation for Street Fighter Alpha 2.

@@Tempora158 in Street Fighter 2 The World Warrior SNES the song kept going during when character got KO then it stop after saying “You Win” (audio off) if you know what I am talking about.

@@peepsg SNES Street Fighter II: World Warrior does not have "You Win/Lose" at the end of the round, which is why the music doesn't cut out. The lack of audio RAM is a problem that no SNES fighting game resolved that doesn't involve downgrading the audio samples into the toilet. Compare SNES Fatal Fury 2 against SNES Fatal Fury Special and the latter sounds like garbage for preserving the continuous music through all the rounds.

I’m just gunna find the patch and use a patcher program just like I did with undercover cops a few weeks ago

@@krishrama Sega Genesis.. Mega Drive has left the conversation. (Though Sega did redeem themselves with Dreamcast’s Japanese version of Super Turbo. Grandmaster challenge X for matching service.. or whatever else words they felt like throwing into the mix.

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN how you figured Sega Genesis won hands down on fighting games other than MK 1🤔 Best fighting games ports was on the GREAT SNES 💯💯

@@krishrama Unlike other chips, the Msu-1 doesn't add processing power to the Snes. Who is processing everything is the Super Nes himself.

@@krishrama Understand. As for the Sdd1 chip, it also doesn't add Snes processing power, it was only used to compress and decompress data. All this because Capcom did not want to spend on memory, since, at the time, it was something expensive. That's why there's a crash before the Rounds, because the game has uncompressed the data.

@@Vinicius-hs2rf No, the load time is caused by having to load audio data to the sound chip. These loading pauses are also present in the Street Fighter Zero 2 SNES prototype, and that uses no enhancement chip. Besides, the S-DD1 decompresses data in real time, so it can't be the source of any load time.

It differs my ears like a comparison between past and future, hearing the sound effects has me like in both time-frames at once.

You cab choose a snes ost

It is a MSU1 game, it is pretty much the other name for the Nintendo playstation , new everdrive emulate the CD player and memory mapper needed for that so outside en everdrive it would need the Nintendo playstation come out.

@@Tailslol Worth noting that you can runs roms with MSU1 mods on Higan (and I think bsnes?) as well.

@@ganymede4030 bsnes yea but it run better on newer version of snes 9x,even a raspberry pi 4 can run them now.

Now if only they could manage to patch the Venezuela waterfall stage, Evil Ryu, and Dramatic Battle Mode in the game then the Super NES version would be as great as the Saturn version.

SH1 is the co-processor-emulated, speedhack. MSU-1 is the CD audio hack.

@@TexasHollowEarth Oh, thank you Rusty!

msu1 doesnt fix the loading, the MSU1 is the chip in the cartridge that allowed us to replace the soundtrack files with arcade songs, to my knowledge the game rom can be fixed and run on any backup cartridge for snes.

@@YoVideogames I believe it does, because the loading is for the music samples, and since the MSU-1 is taking over the music, there is no loading. It's not so simple as "one line fix" or "Capcom devs screwed", they didn't, this just circumvents the problem. Still, there have been other optimizations made which weren't in the original release.

The MSU-1 does not fix the loading directly. The ROM was hacked to eliminate the loading of music into the audio RAM, which saves enough time that this eliminates the load times. If that's all that was done to the ROM, you will have no load time and NO MUSIC in the game. That's where the MSU-1 comes in. The ROM is also hacked to call up the MSU-1 to play back PCM music files from its own separate storage of up to 4 GIGABYTES, which is how this hacked ROM can have music with the load times hacked out of it.

because i have no idea where he got them, and it required extra steps beyond download this rom and put it on memory card.

@@krishrama exactly hahaha

That is one way to go about it. The loading problem is a coding error and what takes the game so long to load is actually the way it is accessing the music files. This patch fixes that and it turns out the SNES was more then capable of running it smoothly all along. The replaced music in this video would require a cartridge with vastly more memory to store these music files as well as a MSU1 chip in the cartridge to ignore the SNES sound chip and output high quality music via the MSU1 instead.

You can't, part of what caused the slowdown is the music sequences and instruments. The 64K of memory on this version doesn't have to worry about music or instruments and actually puts some missing sfx back in because of it ("you win"), also the sound can technically stream samples depending on the sound system so it's possible they were streaming needed and unneeded samples in and out of Audio RAM in real time. The original SFA2 on SNES couldn't do that hence the slowdown. One enhancement they could possibly do in the future is the SA-1 chip enhancement to speed the game up slightly. I noticed this version is less laggy than the original so it could be there already though. The "Z" rotation before fights is also fixed as it looks like it has way more frames of animation. Maybe the hackers replaced it with a Mode 7 version?

At the time the game originally came out, those limitations in the technology at the time were the only reason for the game being released the way it was. But with a better understanding of the hardware from back then, using the technology that we have access to now allows us to go back and fix or completely remove the issues that plagued this and many other games in the first place.

you can patch the game and run it through any everdrive style catridge on a SNES. However if you want to replace the music with the arcade soundtrack you would need a very special and expensive style of SNES catridge.

Frogger was the last game on both SNES and Genesis in the US- you can argue Star Fox 2 technically since it 'released' via the SNES classic a few years ago.

this was the last fighting game on the snes

Nope. Metal Slader Glory Director's Cut ended up as the last game for the SFC/SNES.

Kirby's Dream Land 3 was the last major SNES game to come out of Nintendo. Harvest Moon was also '97. I'm pretty sure Street Fighter Alpha 2 came out around the same time as Super Mario RPG the way I remember. Those were the good days of going to the rental store every Friday

Yes!! My #1 Street Fighter game

? This is an old game that was always flawed. You think SFA2 on SNES just came out?!

@@TexasHollowEarth R/whoosh