In terms of fighting theres weight classes that r genetically balanced but overall anyone can learn how to fight but strongman competitions and bodybuilding u need genetics in general
Not at all. Genetics aren't fix. You know that your genes are constantly evolving. You aren't in a fix state once you are born. You actually grow, modify yourself based on your upbringing and many social factors. If you end up a skinny 14-15-16 years old and actually commit to go to the gym on a solid basis, you will grow no matter your ''genes''. It's one thing to have an excuse, it's another to work to change who you are so you become a better version of yourself.
@@remyboivin5837 I would disagree. Genes dictate your maximum potential. A kid born from parents with higher bone density and mass would most likely exhibit the same attributes as his parents. The same if you were born from parents with light bone density and mass. Won't say it a fix but a limitation. An example of this are people who are naturally born stronger than even people who have trained a bit, even though you are in the same weight class. Muscle density, bone structure, and mass play a huge role and your genetics contribute a huge chunk in that. To use a simpler analogy, your genetic background is the size of your glass and how much you can fill it depends on your training.
Better translation for Lu's comment at :56 - "Well, we didn't call it strength back then... we would just say this kid has a lot of energy, how does he have so much energy."
@@artvandelay8867 Don't think of the word for word translation, but of the context and idioms. The translation that was chosen obviously doesn't make sense in English. Vigor seems like an appropriate choice, but energy conveys the same meaning in that context and is the word that one would most commonly use in English, thus it appears to be the better translation.
Anthropometry, muscle fibre composition, Growth receptors, muscle insertion points, mobility and neuromuscular connection. They are all genetically variable within an individual but training, consistency, devotion, avoiding injury and progressively overloading starting from a young age where your body can grow and adapt to a physiologically significant extent balance out initial genetic factors. In all you need both as you are achieving a body that is structurally designed to perform a singular task thus the undeniable fact is you need to start from a young age and training for 15+ years is the only way you will be able to achieve the same lifts as these guys.
In Chinese kungfu there's a saying "打通任督二脉" 🤣🤣 --- which roughly means surpass the body's governing meridians through hard training or even injuty. I believe that's Tian Tao's secret method.
Sounds nice and is great for some, however top athletes are most of the time, always pushing their body as far as it can go. Further pushing it leads to injury or muscle not building as fast. Now if someone with elite genetics pushes themselves to the limit, the same way as someone with non elite genetics, I think it's easy to predict which one will be more succesfull
@@filipraos8072 I mean taking steroids definitely won't make you a world champion, but world champions definitely couldn't get to where they are without it
Genetics is the size of your water tank as this is pre-determined, but how much water you choose to fill it with is your hard work and training. Be water my friend.
Genetic is the size of the water tank, plus the quality of the water plus the material of the tank plus so much more , training is only the outside filter
@@user-cn4ci5wx1s 280kg isnt untouchable my friend. Kids are hitting that easy at the same age as him. I was hitting 230kg when I weight 110kg. I have average genetics. Genetics only matters for the top 1%
I mean, look at john haack. Dude has average leverages and his squat is so inefficient. yet he is totaling almost 1000kg at 95kg. It really is combination of both, but pure genetic strength is the key.
anthropometry accounts for the relative difference between your own compound lifts, but it doesn't explain your overall strength though. Find another man with the same femur to torso ratio as tian tao, and I doubt they would ever squat 280 kg in their life
let's not forget that when they were 17 years old, they already had 7-9 years of training in their pockets. Chinese trainees start as young as 8 years old. If you're some dude who's been training squats for 2-3 years and you compare yourself to these 16-18 year olds and say that all their strength come from drugs you're stupid
@@giorgig4828 tbh people from the caucus are more west and central Asian than anything but then again I never understood why people used the word Caucasian to describe Europeans
@@Bamiyanbigasf Lol I don’t even know why Europe country exists. Is there like a river or mountain range between Asia and Europe? Is Georgian Asian or European lol.
I'm only talking about my personal experience, so I've seen very few young guys training for WL from their early age, but I can guarantee you none of them have hit 280kg before turning 18 and even the strongest young guy in my gym, who is 15 at the moment, is still not capable to get to the 200kg treshold. I'm telling this just to help you guys understand how elite these two guys are and how it's not about having 10 years of training history by the time you turn 18, cause you already have to be very gifted to get over 200, so try and imagine what it takes to get to those numbers being that young (I don't even wanna talk about steroids. Let's just pretend they cannot have used PED before turning 18)
To answer the question not just anyone can be a world class olympic weightlifter due to genetics and personality just like not anyone can just play basketball there whole life and expect to go pro
@Tin tin man it sucks but the world is unfair at its core because one person with amazing genetics can train for 2 years gain 60lbs of muscle and become a world class lifter while another person with poor genetics can train for 10 years and never put on more than 30lbs of muscle and never gain the strength to become a world class lifter
Yes you can become strong, but to be elite level you need the genetics. Take a look at other athletics and see what sort of body types / people typically compete, long distance vs sprints etc. especially taking into accounts environmental factors.
@password 12 why are there certain body types for sprints vs long distance, why are most of the long distance champions from one area.... Why are the best deadlifters have specific traits, long arms, short legs.
@password 12 I've got pretty good brain genetics but reading your comments just obliterated my braincells so I guess you're right, genetics don't matter after all.
@password 12 and? You could take all the steroids and PEDs in the world and you would never look like Arnold or Ronnie Coleman for example. You would never be able to beat Amy Olympic weightlifting records. You would never be able to beat the 100m record. Everybody at the top is on PEDs because they need to be, because everyone else is.
@@nolol700 Going by your logic everyone and anyone could potentially become a champion weightlifter/strongman/powerlifter. Anyone could become the next Usain Bolt through the right type of environmental adaption. What you are talking about is basically just evolution. Though you as an individual aren’t going to be sticking around long enough to out evolution your genetics.
@@jermaineayivoh8263 Im not talking about evolution, Im talking about genitc conditioning. Lots of "Champions" had ti train for their entire life and eventually got to their actual level. Genetics defines your best only by hight and aestethic which is indeed limiting, but it it limits the point where you start, not where you finish.
With average (or even poor) genetics and hard training, you can be in top 1% of the population strength-wise.. but if you want to be in Top 0.005% (competitive, Olympic), you probably won't be able to do that with poor/average genetics, because there are too many people with good genetics who are also committed to hard training. [I obviously took those percentages from the ceiling, those are only rough guesses just to give the idea of what I think]
yes. You can reach good results even if you aren't genetically gifted for strength with dedication, but those who are will surpass your peak in no time. Also if you watch all these crazy squatters who do 280 @17y their body proportions are made for squat, super short legs and fully upright position. i've been in our powerlifting gym for 25 years and i've seen how bigger late secondary school guys struggle with 120kg deadlift and next guy pulls 200 at age of 15 weighting 70kg and never done lifting before. That is good genetics for strength
Also there is the perfect technique aspect, the olympic coaches start working with these kids from very very early ( like 10-11 old ). In the rural areas where the most elite are found they don't even have proper equipment, the kids start learning the movements with a wooden staff when they start proper training in the big cities the foundation are already rock solid.
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My dads always been freakish atrong for a guy thats 5’6 seen him pick things up that didn’t make sense like a whole end of a piano. A lathe bed one whole end. Stuff i couldn’t budge.
When people say to squat twice a week, do front squat and back squat count the same? Or would they mean back squat twice a week, and front squat twice a week?
Don't overcomplicate what he said. Squat twice a week can refer to either squat type,just obviously don't train both on both days. Just stick to one type for a period and then swap back
i wonder what the Chinese did for knee/ankle mobility??? that has been, for a long time, my weakest point in my squat or any barbell lift for that matter. never with hip mobility.
Most of us are born with it... Don't quote me on this, but in the rural parts of China, instead of sitting down, they usually squat when resting, also there is the "squat toilet" in China, which is still quite common these day outside first-tier city
Knees require no mobility training- they always bend all the way. It's ankle mobility and hip, etc you gotta worry about. Knees automatically go in the right place if your ankle flexion is good and groin can open up
Im here to learn form, progress etc, but notice individuals critizing on them doping, personally I'm not sure if they are or not, but when some people said 'its really really hard near impossible to do 280kg at 17', I was thinking, these two were selected out of a country of 1.4 billion in population and trained all their life, if there is a drug free freak of nature at 17, they are the ones....... (techincally world population since they won gold....also if they were doping so are all of competitors, still pretty fair) Conclusion 'Learn without hate'
@@gjune36 And there are ways to circumvent those tests. Practically every record-holding/top-tier athlete in any sport where explosiveness, strength or endurance is beneficial are on steroids.
Strength just like bodybuilding is mostly genetics. Not that someone with bad genetics can't be strong but if you take John Hack for example have an average person who's the same height and weight train just like him eat just like him etc. I guarantee that person still wouldn't put up the same numbers that Hack can do. It's even more genetics based in bodybuilding. It's all about how good your muscle insertions are, your bone structure, how separated you're muscles are when you diet down and deplete water etc. Those are genetic factors that can't be altered.
YES! Hard truth but a good looking body and strength is all about genetics! Consistency and training is necessary of course but no matter how hard you train, you will never achieve what a gifted person with the same mentality can get from his/her body 🤷🏻♂️ . Just a reminder, you don't need to be a gold medalist or an Instagram model, overcome YOUR limits and be the better version of YOURSELF.
Arnold has a similar theory about plateauing, he says sometimes your muscles are just ready for whatever you throw at them and that’s where you have to change up your exercise or superset or completely shock them, pretty funny because sometimes the way he talks about his muscles it’s like they are their own seperate entity and deserves their own attention and respect 😂
I think in terms of squat numbers... American kids would just have lower numbers cuz we can't squat for shit with garbage mobility. I'm Chinese American. I couldn't full squat as a teen lol... cuz i never had to squat in school and i just sat in chairs all day. My brother (1 year younger than me) always sat in full squats growing up cuz he helped my parents at the store (lots of carrying stuff and squatting down to sort stuff) So when we started lifting in high school... it took me like.... an entire year just to get my mobility and flexibility to a point i can ATG squat. took me forever to work up to a 4 plate squat (like 2 years). My brother got to a 4 plate squat in 6 months. Really depends on your starting mobility flexibility and strength. I think it's totally possible for most people to hit a 200 kg+ squat pretty easily with the right training to address weaknesses...
Ηello from Greece you dont need to be phenomenon...try to fix your self diet rest exercise dont be sad if elite athletes are better than us also dont forget in the game is not only genetics of course genetics training eat and sleep is must but when try be a pro must take and steroids
not sure if its as much genetics, but lifestyle if you have fit active parents chances are youll be a more fit more active kid who might be able to squat or deadlift more then most other kids. if you have fat sedintary parents who feed you ho hos and oreos all day and when you turn 16 you wanna lose weight and get in shape well chances are those muscles won be developed and you wont be able to lift as much in the beginning, but theres always the anomaly
