Strengths and Weaknesses for EVERY Codex Tyranids Unit - Tyranid Tactics! 

CORRECTIONS: - Melee warriors have damage 1 attacks , not damage 2 as I said. My error there. Still pretty good threat against infantry units! - Norn assimilator DOES have synapse (just not the invulnerable and MW defence)

BATTLE LINE 0:50 Termagants 2:38 Hormagaunts 3:47 Gargoyles 5:21 Neurogaunts INFANTERY AND SWARMS 6:28 Rippers 7:29 Tyranid warriors melee weapons 8:56 Tyranid warriors ranged weapons 9:49 Genestelers 11:27 Raveners 12:40 Biovores 14:00 Pyrovores 15:26 Barbagaunts 16:42 Hive guard 17:44 Tyranit guard 19:18 Spore mines + Mucolid Spore 20:38 Venomthropes 21:52 Zoanthropes 23:30 Von Ryan Leapers LONE-OPERATIVE INFANTERY 24:52 Lictor 26:26 Neurolictor 27:58 Deathleaper 29:03 Parasite of Mortrex MONSTERS 30:14 Carnifexes 31:26 Old One Eye 32:38 Screamer Killer 33:36 Haruspex 34:47 Maleceptor 36:03 Toxicrene 37:10 Psychophage 38:37 Mawloc 39:35 Trygon 40:46 Exocrine 41:45 Tyrannofex 43:12 Norn Emisary 44:51 Norn Assimilator 45:48 Sporocyst 47:13 Tyrannocyte 48:35 Harpy 49:39 Hive Crone CHARACTERS 50:21 Hive Tyrant 52:27 Hive Tyrant with Wings 54:01 Tervigon 55:33 Neurotyrant 57:08 Swarmlord 58:53 Winged Prime 1:00:18 Broodlord 1:01:32 Forge World Units

Firstly, Merry Christmas all! I hope things change in the January balance pass. I'd like the Hive Guard to be balanced again. I feel like they've paid for their sins now. The Tyrannofex really needs to go down in points. At least then I'll know my Rupture Cannon is whiffing everything as efficiently as possible.

10th might be tough for nids as a lot of these units had a “low damage” as a downside and they already have a codex released…

It's both funny and kinda sad to see that the impaler cannon has fallen from being the terror weapon of Warzone Octarius a couple years ago to just a kinda weak breeze in early 10th.

Genestealers with the broodlord can cut tanks in half. And by that i mean physically, not in terms of wounds.

Got myself some wins lately, even took 2nd place in a local tournament with a lictor list (1000 points) All I needed was to abandon the concept of killing stuff, and embrace scoring primaries and secondaries

Here’s me hoping GW reverts the nerfs on the Tyrannofex

I think the WR and general consensus on Nids' is skewed downward by horror stories from their large new player base. Positioning, target priority, etc are all much more important for the army than it might seem on the surface. A tactical hivemind rather than an unstoppable object, in both a positive and a negative sense; sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and smash things instead of agonizing over synaptic imperatives and properly screening with gaunts. That said, Biovore mine-scoring needs to be axed so the army isn't resting on literally one unit (I refuse to use it in games until they do), and many of the larger monsters need sweeping buffs. The Timmys need to be thrown a bone.

I’ve always liked being a nids player. This is the first time I’ve actually gotten so bored playing them, they don’t feel like horrific monsters from beyond.

the points increases to the T-fex, Norns, Tyrants and Swarmlord baffles me since the dataslate. Why the hell did they do that?

Strengths: Some units have strong objective scoring systems with little counter-play Weaknesses: bad attacks, bad strength, bad AP, bad damage, bad range, bad defense, bad synergy, bad leaders, bad points, bad sub-factions, bad codex, first codex, and - last but not least - the eternal and extremely personal enmity of Robin Cruddace, one of the heads of GW.

I feel like Tyrant Guard are better to run with the Neurotyrant than the Hive Tyrant. Especially since the Neuro gives them +1 to hit and +1 to wound if the target is Battle-shocked, which can really boost their damage output.

The assimilator still has synapse, its main loss over taking an emissary is the 4++ and 4+++ to mortals. The increase in melee threat is quite huge though. Hoping he comes down like 50 points or so.

My Tyranids generally seem pretty weak vs the people I play against. Maybe it's because I play against dudes who play power lists and I just like to field a bunch of random stuff I think is cool. I actually won the last game I played by a fair bit by burning control points, and yet I didn't kill anything all game and only avoided being tabled by running away and using cover. Felt bad, tbh.

Early codex syndrome really hurt nids for 10th. Hoping they nerf spore mine scoring to show how badly they need help other than points drops.

The melee warriors are damage 1, not 2. Which quite really sucks

So from my understanding based on your video one of the major weaknesses of the Tyranid faction is that they need better anti-tank cause it sounds like from your discriptions that the few units (tyrannophex and Norn Assimilator) that are somewhat good at taking out vehicles are really pricey in points and have other problems in addition.

I read too often something like 'low damage output'. And that's it, nids are just not killy enough to be played more offensive and other than lurking around hoping for secondaries.

Remeber when the psychophage actually threatened psycher units?

Since seeing this one today, merry christmas auspex and y'all 🎄🎇

Love these breakdowns.

I feel like Tyranids have to play too tactically to win, as opposed to attempting to table the enemy like they should. For many other factions the objectives are likely more important fluff-wise, but for the bugs it's all food and various ways of directly attacking that food.

Great work as always! :)

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great video, these videos are great for me as a new 40k player to get a general idea of what does what and how it ranks.

its main weakness is gw

The Tyranid even with a codex is disappointing 😑

I love running 2 emissaries with old one eye with 2 carnifexs or a tervagon with 30 termagants. It locks down 3 objectives for a few turns.

AT takes no breaks, not even for holidays. Thank you, sir!

"durability isn't as bad as it used to be" what do you mean? they save on 5s, they literally die to a slow breeze. "oh but 2 wounds" doesn't mean shit when you fail every save bc you always save on 5s(4s with cover against ap0 only). Gene stealers are super cool but theyre bottom tier until they get a points cut.

In this case the ratings have been given very generously, e.g. Carnifex are absolutely useless without OoE.

Unless something was changed recently melee warriors are damage 1 ap2 twin linked. They're also great in Vanguard Onslaught with a Winged Prime leading them as they get advance/fall back and charge.

1. Warriors have dmg 1 not 2 2. Raveners are 150 for 6 not for 10

Termsgants are my favorite unit for my chainswords

I wish my warriors deals 2 dmage, but they only do one auspex!!

Great list. Thanks. I respectfully take issue with the genestealers being a 7/10. Since they lost their full re-rolls, i think they are 5/10 at best. Unless they kill the unit they charge, they will get pasted on the counterattack or, in the next turn, with luck rolls. 2W i thought would be more of a help than it was because of the damage other armies have. Plus, they are WAY over-costed. But thanks! Happy Christmas!

My Bugs have very little chance against vehicle spam lists... Which continues to get worse as armies get more options. Also, no offense sir, but Zoanthropes never perform like an 8/10 for me usually landing a single shot before mowed down by heavy bolters.

The assimilatior is synapse. Just not psychic

In the whole list I notice we miss anything to deal with big tough targets. We have the Assimilator, but it isn´t tough enough and melee. We have carnifexes with crab claws, but again melee and not durable enough. We have the Tyranofex for ranged fire, but it is too expensive for what it does. We lack damage and durability for a reasonable price. 😅 Let´s hope the balance patch will correct the unfavourable codex we had in 10th.

algo tribute: Great video

Barbgaunts gain +1 attack per 5 units, not 12 *

Psychophage 6+ fnp aura was fun. Like tshirt plus hoodie armor.

I think tyranid warriors with melee are damage 1 not 2

I would put Termagants a tier above Hormagaunts. If you want a bunch of bodies to sit in the midfield and tapdance around the objectives, go Termagants. If you want something fast to go harass your opponent and do all kinds of shenanigans, go Gargoyles. They don't really have a role that isn't done better and cheaper elsewhere. If you wanted to spam them, you might as well just go Vanguard Invader and have an entire army that advances and charges.

Great video. Good listening while painting my gargoyles

Tyrannofex is only 190pts now. At this cost, I think it's good anti-vehicle.

Every time I use the Tyrannofex with the rupture cannon, I typically don't get less than 7 damage when getting a single hit through, but when both hit, I average 20-24

When will the next balance update release in January did GW give a date ?

I think that one of the additional benefits of the biovore and pyrovore is that the guns look exactly the same

I wish Warriors still had dmg 2 melee😔

Shouldn’t change the rankings much, especially since assimilation swarm is not ‘meta’, but it is of note that all the ‘big’ infantry like tyrant guard, zoanthropes, venomthropes, etc. can have a whole model resurrected each time the detachment ability goes off in assimilation swarm which is usually much better than the alternative options. A single ripper swarm hiding in a big group of tyrantguard or zoanthropes on an objective can add a lot more durability than most people are expecting

im sure someone said this and is know already but it wasn't mentioned, rippers and pyrovores have the harvester keyword too, allowing a 20pt ripper (or 35 for pyros) model to regen d3 wounds or regen a whole model in a unit or a few for endless multitude. having healers for this cheap is insane.

Read some of the comments and the biggest change for nids players from 9th is to be much more reliant on careful planning and usually you dont have the intent to nobrain autoslay lists. Ive recently starting playing them and its more of a utility army bcs they dont have any crazy table your opponent mechanics/units and rely heavily on the tactical aspect. In 9th they were more of a no brainer army and now you need a proper understanding of the units to outplay your opponent tactically. Our best damage outputs are against heavy infantry with exocrines and tank busters with zoanthropes. You play nids more as toolbox army, that rewards you greatly for understanding the key strategic aspects of 10th. If you want a no brain army i would highly recommend another army to play. Imo the best subfactions on paper is vanguard invader and invasion fleet. Synaptic nexus is also good but it has worse enhancements and only 1 strat you love to spam. Its a really fun army to bite your teeth in but you need some practice before you get the rewards for playing them honestly. Damage Output: 6-7/10 Defence: 6 overall 8 if u play vanguard and go all in on sneaky play Utility: 9 Complexity: 8,5 Shadow in the warp is really good when it goes your way and you plan it accordingly but its a real shit tier army rule if used incorrectly.

It's very sad that the best tyranids units be shooting units and not melee units. I'm going to test swarmlord in Invasion Fleet and test his durability with 5+ FNP. Broodlord and genestealers combination is a great glasscannon but very expensive.

For the deathleaper I'd say the cape is negative. Toxicrene further negativeness: it takes thrice the space than its base size, thanks to those tentacle moustaches.

Thanks!

To sum up, Tyranids are very weak overall. - They don't hit hard. - They aren't durable. - The don't have the best shooting - They don't have the best melee - They rely on a VERY unreliable Battleshock mechanic. The only thing they're strong at is secondaries. Which tends not matter when you're dead on T3

I just know most of the new big monsters are gonna be lowly rated, Overcosted, terrible toughness, mediocre damage.

Some of these ratings are weird. The parasite hasn't seen play since the beginning of 10th ed, and it's because it cannot do anything. Tyrant Guard the same, plus they make the Hive Tyrants easier to kill. Termagants are 7/10, but I don't understand why. Their profiles are those of average guardsmen, they do not get any kind of auto regeneration mechanic like other small chaff in other codexes, they do not get special weapons that can do all that much, and they are literally bodies for the opponent to go through without being able to do that much. Carnifexes at 7/10 is an absolute insult. They need a 140 point character to make them even remotely worth taking. I get a sense that AT seems to think that the Tyranids are doing fine while the 'nids have been hovering at the 45% win rate for the last month, dipping down to 42% last week. And those numbers are mostly held up by the biovore.

I really loathe how GW constantly takes a dump on Tyranids. Armies like Eldar are consistently strong throughout editions, with many units being really good and multiple viable army lists. Meanwhile, for a long time Tyranids have been “okay” with one or two really good lists. You either play those lists or get dunked on.

the carrying capacity of tyrannocyte should be at least 21, so you can have 6 warrior and a prime in it!

Termagaunts can only be fielded in groups of 20 which is a massive nerf to their durability from 9th

I think you have blast wrong for the barbagaunts

Probably wont use a tyrannofex untill the fleshborer hive is a useable option 😢

Miss my red terror 😢

So Tervigons can’t spawn gaunts without there being an already damaged unit of them???

Give tyrant should be higher I think his cost isn’t great but it’s not horrible an 2+ 4+ isn’t bad either 🤷‍♂️ I roll 4 ups pretty decently

Melee wariors are damage 1

On another note, am I the only one who is surprised that the killzone: Bheta-Decima sold out within an hour? I'm gonna start playing Kill team this season (never tried it before) and I never thought a set of terrain would sell out like that. Especially a set that people seemed to think was "meh" before it arrived. :p

I wish Gargoyles got a resculpt with the Gants and Gaunts. They look so ugly in comparison.

Melee warriors do 1 dmg

Am I the only one who hopes for the return of Shrikes? Particularly with the Winged Tyranid Prime in play.

Carnifexes should be a 5. Old One Eye an 8. Emissary a 6

Nid warriors in vanguard with the winged prime are nids best mele dps.... also 'not fast' they are faster than stealers as you can buny hop with the winged prime, getting them to 9" + advance+charge.

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It sucks that all the big bois are trash…it’s kinda like the empire in Star Wars

I'm going to push back against the doom and gloom in the comments here. SOMEBODY has to have "below average" damage because of how averages work. Half the codexes are going to be below the average, roughly, and most will be close to average, only a few books will have standout "high damage" as an advantage. Overall I think Tyranid damage is *mostly* acceptable, and I don't find it hard to win games with them where I kill plenty of enemy units. I'm rarely tabling anyone, but I have an 82% winrate across 28 games so far since the codex. It can be done. Bring a pair of Exocrines, one big squad of Zoanthropes, and some Genestealers in Invasion Fleet and you can punch up into big targets just fine.

Ahh yes the BLAST keyword..... it definitely gives +1A per 12 models in a unit 😂😂 its definitely not +1A per 5 models hahaha

I cant be the only person to say, the Psycophage has 10 wounds, not 15... looking at the codex? Also, great Vid yet again, love tour content and thanks for helping me be a better player

carnifexes are 3/10.. they are sadly just unplayable.. they do nothing.. maybe at 90 pts per model they would see some play.. haruspex vs 1 carnifex comparing them, a carnifex does nothing.. and haruspex is only bearly okay at the cost he is at, we just dont have anything that is better.. to make the screamer killer playble, he cant be more than 135 pts. Toxicrene same thing.. he should cost exactly the same as a haruspex, maybe less. psychophage gets an achievement unlocked for managing to be even worse than a carnifex.. I dont know if I would play him at even 90pts. the 6+ fnp rarely matter and otherwise he literally does nothing.. if the tyrannofex was 180 pts and I could only take him or a maleceptor, I 100% would always choose the maleceptor.. that says alot about the tyranno.. MAYBE at 170 I would consider one.. but probably not, he is "just" tanky, but not even tanky enough and his damage is a joke. norn are also just unplayable for the cost... they are tanky yes, and thats it, they pose no thread and can just be ignored. maybe at 220 pts they can be used.. and all the character monsters are also redicously costed for what they do. Overall tyrand monster are just all hilariously overcosted for the damage they do.. its just not worth it... and overall having a million little guys is more tanky than just a bunch of overcosted monsters that dont do anything or have a single useful damage dealer, the haruspex, which sadly just dies to a single round of an anti tank shooting before he even gets there. a bunch of these things need to drop 50+pts to be useful. something like the swarmlord, literally needs to drop 100pts to make sense.. otherwise we will keep playing swarm and vanguard.. and dont do any damage at all (which is not fun) but the only way we can win by doing missions and not letting the opponent play (which is also not fun for them).

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I dig the in-depth information and analysis, but I can't understand about 30% of what you say. Slow down and pronounce your words, my friend.