NO Michael is a God when you 99 his tier 3 then face camp until you can mori the survivor that gets off the hook or the people coming to the rescue. He is PERFECTION 😂
Yes he's really good at Zoning and he's a Tunnelling machine and can deny anti tunneling perks like DS, Dead Hard, Off The Record, etc, he's 100% an A Tier killer arguably among the Top 10 Best killers or at the edge of top 10
looking back on it you're right bro pyramid has a lot more going for him than i initially gave him credit for. this wasn't a scripted vid or anything it was live on stream cuz ppl asked for it so i didnt exactly have notes prepared or anything. didnt factor in a lot of bonus stuff p head has. also i think its pretty silly u main both p heads just sounds funny af. also cool u made a little friend down here in the comments.
@@stalkeddyea this tierlist wasnt the best blight at A was crazy, and twins over pyramid head? the cages are comepletly option and counter survivor perks like ds delieverence etc. but you can also just hook if you have pain res or pop
This tier list is fucking abysmal, that’s not even the most shocking part, his reasoning for each character is more often than not fucking awful. He said pyramid head has low skill ceiling but for ghost face “you have to get good at 1 shotting people.”
@@loganmorris2586yea i main pyramid head i think he’s easily A tier also one of his reasons was “you can just crouch over your trail to avoid torment” yet any good pyramid head knows you can force people into your trails in several ways
@Piper0185 All you have to do is look at the unknown as his power becomes High B tier at best, why do i have to hit you twice just to not get a down when someone like plague can projectile towards you and instantly get rewarded damage with no counterplay Once corrupt is active. The clones can easily be countered if there are well coordinated teams, for example 2 people doing gens while the other 2 run the killer, since there is 2 running the killer, one of the survivors can take down all the clones
@@demonlikemike5920his cooldown is also way to long . why would I play unknown who pretty much takes 4 powers uses to down someone over huntress with pretty much no cooldown and only needs 2 hatchets to down.
Blight is still S tier, hugtech isnt the reason he was S tier, it was bump logic. Blights hugtech made him more accesible because console players have a hard time to play him.
they got rid of hug tech and also reworked his collision so I'm unsure if that argument is able to be made anymore. granted I havent played him too much since the changes so I cannot speak on the reworked collision being a buff or a nerf. plus they also nerfed both of his iris so there's that as well.
Blight cannot down survivors if they use loop well. With his old hug tech he could down survivors in all loops especially if they were not insanely skilled players.
Plague is up there with spirit. A good plague can do a lot with one power, her 2 apples give her 2 more uses of power. Thana and Blood Echo as well as some camping can force cleanses and her snowball abilty is comparable to nurses. Definitely S-A tier.
yes i mentioned here they're for a loop, you'll drop em at a loop just to move onto the next one. the only one u can maybe count on for hits is the assassin.
@@stalkedd i wouldn't even say that, the guards are ineffective when u place them on loops most of the time cause W key. They're more to increase pressure, and work very well when survivors are chased by them to a loop, but not when they're placed down at a loop, its about "pre chasing" or "pre pressure" so that Knight can finish the job, essentially. He just got updated today where placing a guard on a loop is basically nul as knight staying near guard makes the guard dissapear quicker.
Pinhead C-tier is crazy. Its literally the same deal as Deathslinger, hit your chains and you’re good. And as far as SWFs go, just don’t rely so much on Chain Hunts and treat the Lament as extra slowdown. The time a survivor finding the box, picking it up and solving it is a substantial amount of time not doing gens. Even regardless of that, the argument of “What if you go up against a high-level SWF” to explain why a killer is bad is just completely redundant. Going up against a SWF as ANY killer most likely means you’re fucked. Thats just how DbD is in general. Anyway I digress, Pinhead is high B-tier/ low A-tier AT LEAST.
As a trickster main its def possible to use your knives on tall loops bc its easy to hit 2-3 knives while looping because trickster is 4.6m a second and its easy for him to catch up with survivors
Idek what to say, you were not cooking, you were burning, Oni, Wesker, Pyramid Head and Plague not in A Tier is absolutely incorrect, all 4 are easily agree among the community that they are in the Top 10 strongest killers in the game, especially Wesker, Oni and Plague. and Ghostface is among the bottom 10/bottom 5 killers cuz he has no mobility, his reveal mechanics are janky asf, and good teams will just call out your position and a good survivor will out run an m1 killer for the whole 60 seconds of being exposed.
Personally trapper is a unsung hero of the killers if you build him right he’s great but you have to play smart my recommendation is pick the 3 gens closest to one another and surround them with all of the traps let survivor have every other gen if they can’t get to the last three it’s a battle against time for them they can only get hooked or bleed out so many times
see you say trappers good then instantly say only if you rely on a 3 gen. i get where your coming from but a killer shouldn't have to rely on things like that to win. skull merchant mentality.
Ok i get that Micheal is maybe strong but not as strong as the others, my fav loadout was with the perk unlimited level 3 and when im level 3 i mori people instantly, which made it basically once u got the powers everyone is one hit, but in that time they could already have 3-4 gens done depending on if ur good and constantly Changing targets or not
exactly, his strong add ons are IRIS, which already means they're rare to get in the bloodweb, even when u use them u can still get genrushed in the time is takes to stalk for them
@@stalkedd Totally agree, I also really liked the distinction you made between lower tier and higher tier killers is usually because their abilities can be stopped by survivors. Never thought of it that way before
Good tierlist, but I think you put plague far too low. Even if they don't cleanse and she stays an M1 killer you gotta realize they're just injured all game. And even if they keep cleansing all you gotta do is constantly puke on gens and windows and they're just gonna be sick all game.
Pyramid Head, Plague and Cenobite being C tier while Ghostface and Wraith are B tier should be considered a crime. Plague is High A tier for sure, Pyramid is Low A/High B and Ceno is solid B tier.
I main Unknown so im a bit biased i think that Unknown feels S tier at times but ultimately i agree with the ranking. His uvx can be countered with good awareness and positioning, his teleport can be cancelled out completely just like hag traps if a skillful survivor just stays ontop of it, and he doesnt really have any absurdly broken addons. Howhever he is the only killer i know of that can cross map a group of survivors with very little counterplay, can force uncomfortable situations by cross mapping with his tp granted you have AR perks, and he is very oppressive against certain survivor comps. Id put him above artist but below billy. Although personally i feel like billy should be above chucky. Otherwise great list man
That’s typical hearing that about Clown. Most thinks he’s not good but shiiiiiieeeed. You gotta know him well enough ti end chases against the most skilled survivors along with about 2 gen regression perks and you’ll get great results. If you can’t end chases fast…you are essentially f’ed though. Against a skilled Clown, pre-dropping truly does very little and there’s really no looping him. The only counter is to pretend you’re gunna challenge them at a loop and go away to another area/loop seconds before he realizes. That’s how monstrously aggressive Clown is…he just have very little map pressure. If they actually gave him good map pressure, they’d definitely nerf his chase potential. After all the buffs, Clown is definitely a solid B tier.
the thing abt clown is there are too many factors you can't control such as the survivors skill and map rng. who wins on a survivor sided map: clown with 4 gen regression or survivors with windows? plus after the STBFL nerfs he's just not the same
@@swxsam With his antidotes along with the recent buffs, I’d disagree. He’s challenging to actually master but very rewarding. You’ll almost never go against a Clown that actually knows what he’s doing. You mostly only go against ones that never even use their antidotes at all. I can really see how so many see him being a weaker killer. Go watch Arinad and Aerico34 and they’ll show you how he’s used at his peak.
@@stalkedd STBFL really wasn’t that bad of a nerf as I really thought it’d be though. I use it all the time on Clown and it’s still very strong on him along with the afterpiece tonics. Clown is very capable of humbling the most highly skilled survivors. I’m currently a p91 Clown and I play at high mmr. I win mass majority of my matches with Rapid, STBFL, POP, and Pain Res.
@@DreadBoi504 i mean yeah just kinda feels like you have to tunnel every game, ever try stbfl with rapid tho? stuff is like crack. friends till the end is also great w stbfl for so many reasons.
M1 killers are basically killers that rely on their basic attacks to damage or down survivors. For example, Ghost Face is an M1 killer because he needs to use his basic attack because his power by itself doesn’t do damage.
@@stalkedd so you're not using her correctly then even if they dont cleanse they become 1 hit way from dying + her addons give 2 extra foutains to pick corrupt. Not to mention forcing pallet drop by using normal purge to make them broken
Pyramid head is one of the most devastating killers in the game Run a nurses calling and you are hitting the most satisfying shots sometimes knocking down 2 survivors healing eachother
I think the best trapper fox is give him his traps right off the rip and introduce another tool for him that he'd have to gather. Literally give him bolas for chasing
I was agreeing with everything you said until you put Plague in C tier. And the thing that baffles me is that you literally proceeded to say what makes her a higher tier killer😂 It sort of seems like you were basing your judgement on your dislike for her gameplay and ngl pinhead and pyramid in C tier is throwing me off. But other than that I agree with a lot of what you’ve said and this is all opinion based at the end of the day. I still watched the entire video and enjoyed it, so no hate! However, I think Blight is still a little better than spirit, and twins, singularity, and skull merchant (hate her) are too low.
Plague and pinhead in C is crazy... Pinhead power is strong, box is a big slowdown and info Plague power is op, it's either injured whole game / strongest power in the game + big slow down and easy to puke on gen again. They will even contaminate themselves saving people on hook Pinhead is B and Plague low A
Oni in B tier, Plague not in A tier is based. You put demo over Wesker. Plague, Pinhead, and Pyramid head in C? Having Demo over twins and all of the forementioned killers is criminal. Lich has a 70 percent 4k rate...There is literally no way you play this game very much, or you get 3 and 4 outed a lot and are in a low mmr. No shade but this list is factually inaccurate and it's a thinly veiled and frankly delusional attempt at a hot take.
I agree with a decent amount of the stuff here What i would debate: Plague and Pin way too low high B- low A A good merchant , bubba, or pyramid head goes in mid B Too high: Onryo top C Legion Pig Clown F Alien high B Wraith C
just because ur mains aren't ranked high doesnt mean i dont enjoy playing them or think they're fun this is just based on strength. i think playing myers is sick af he's just very weak early and could use some buffs
Freddys snares are quite good many loops you can win with just one and his teleport is the worst mobility the prob the best for chase simply because it's insintanious you can teleport and immediately move and swing
@@stalkedd you can't make a tier list using comparisons saying the snares don't do anything when they can shut down a whole loop in seconds just rubbed me the wrong way
Deja de mentir, el trampero es el peor killer del juego, no se puede hacer nada a menos que tus lobbys sean bots, de 10 partidas 9 me tocan premades, esto se debe a que soy Main enfermera
for xeno i would put him higher, because the flame turrets are harder for people who are not gods at the game to use. every game i play as xeno i still see people putting turrets right in front of tunnels and if you run emergency helmet or lamberts star map they feel less powerful.
Bubba should be a tad higher like high b maybe low A his new buff is goated. He doesn’t get caught as easily as before. His tantrum is so short now and his add ons are good bubba high B def for me spooky loopz made a video on it and its night and day
Everything just feels wrong with this list. Certain killer are powerfull with certain gameplay, trapper with his basement, the hag can put marks in survivor fallen item from franklin's demise. Definitely a rage bait.
Infinite tier 3 Micheal in D tier, pig and skull merchant in c tier.. lmao😂 what game are you playing.. pig has some of the best slowdown in the game and skull merchant is an easy high b or even a tier killer.
Estoy en desacuerdo con chuky, lo desconocido, demogorgon, nemesis, singularidad, doctor, ghostface, sadako, la draga, el espectro, todos esos deberian estar mas abajo(contra premades)
@@swxsam mira, yo no sé CUAL es tu mmr, pero si no estás de acuerdo con lo que dije, seguramente sea muy bajo, de 10 partidas, cuántas te tocan premades??.
@@swxsam bien, entonces sabrás que los killers que dije si los sabes usar muy bien las premades te bailan, yo hablo de premades prestigio 100 o 80 y pico