I think you should rank the "flex head" ratchets separately from the solid non-flex head ratchets. It skews a manufacturer when you put a solid head up against a flex head. I think they should be nearly as good, don't get me wrong, but obviously the non-flex heads are going to sheer the anvil, while the flex heads are probably going to break the flex joint. (although this isn't, or hasn't been, universally true).
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Hope you enjoyed the video and have the opportunity to continue using your Kobalt ratchet for many years! It should do well for you if you keep it under 250 ft-lbs 😂
I really wish Tekton offered the super long handle ratchets in flex head. I want that 18 inch 3/8 90 toother, but a flex or pivoting head would make it a lot more useful.
DISCLAIMER. THE NEW REDESIGN KOBALT 90T FLEX HEAD RATCHETS AREN'T AS GOOD AS THE OLDER MODEL. YES THE NEW ONE IS SLIMMER AND THINNER. BUT IT WILL NOT HOLD UP LIKE THE OLD ONE. FIRST TIME I USED IT THE SPRING CAP PIN THAT PUSHES UP AGAINST THE PAWL CRACKED. RECOMMEND EITHER THE HUSKY OR DIEHARD OR CAPRI FOR THE PRICE RANGE.
In my opinion I believe that flex heads shouldn't be compared with non flex heads and I believe that quick release ratchets shouldn't be compared to non quick release ratchets because the anvil isn't as strong, so when a flex head/quick release ratchet puts up less numbers than the milwaukee, I believe it comes down to a matter of design, not quality. Regardless, great video once again and I look forward to more.
I don’t disagree, but that Kobalt quick release flex sneaking in right behind the fixed head nonquick release was pretty interesting. It’s a big brand list that we’ll just keep growing.
Oh yeah! Time to break some tools. I don't know what Client Graphics has to do with this channel. Should be called ToolApocalypse, because only the truly faithful tools will survive what happens here.
I disagree. He already showed that the original tester was accurate to a calibrated torque tester, I assume this new one has been checked or comes with a NIST or Canadian equivalent certification for calibration (I did not watch his video on the socket itself). Any differences in strength on a test with the new tester vs. the old would very likely be due to individual ratchet manufacturing tolerances and not due to tester accuracy. IOW, if both the SO and Tekton ratchets were to be re-tested on the new tester and were +/- 5 ft-lbs of the original result, the new result would just re-enforce that both ratchets break at about 290 ft-lbs and that they are still "tied" as far as strength. In reality, to make it a "fair competition" as van1196 says, you really can't be comparing flex head ratchets vs. standard length/non flex-head ratchets, especially house brands which may have different manufacturers making non-flex and flex head ratchets. I'm not saying you can't mix the tests in a video, but the spreadsheet showing the results would have to be divided between non-flex head and flex head, standard length handle, extended length handle, etc. to really make the comparisons valid. Also, you would need to break a LOT of ratchets for each type and each manufacturer before you can draw a conclusion as to which is really the strongest ratchet. This is not a knock on Chris from Clientgraphics' videos or his testing, the videos *are* useful, I am only pointing out the limits of what conclusions can be drawn. If anything it would be nice for others to repeat his tests, the more who do, the more data can be gleaned.
Wright tool is my favorite tool company and all of my weight stuff has taken everything I've thrown at it, now I don't use cheaters, but I was surprised to see that failure. I would love to see a fixed head tested on the load cell as I believe the mechanism would give that Milwaukee a run for it's money
Never been a big fan of kobalt but they are certainly better than craftsman. Lowe's is pushing craftsman hard. Good job Milwaukee!!! Big disappointment in Mac. Pittsburgh even beat the pricey Mac.
I totally agree with you !!! I cringe when I hear each one pop. Especially since I can't afford most of them. I wonder what the total cost is for the group of ratchets tested is?? More than my annual tool budge I'm sure🤩😁😄🤩but cool data gained. I love this channel !! Chris and his wife do great videos to help people find rest tool deals.
I'd suggest perhaps improving your cheater bar setup. Make it so it's a fixed distance from center of anvil head on all ratchets so all the necks get the same workout.
Depends a bit, some of these tools can stand up to a stress test pretty well however the quality of materials used as well as how the average stress in distributed means over time forces such as metal fatigue can cause failure when using the tool dispite it being torqued at the same amount you have done before
Bit of an apples to oranges comparison on some things, seems like the swivel heads will fail in their swivel mechanism but you are also testing tools from other brands that dont have that mechanism, it shows the difference in strength between the particular ratchets but doesn't surmise the strength of the brand at least for swivel ones that failed in their swivel first
So I been thinking about this the ones with premature failure were mostly flex heads aka my beloved Mac axis, so I think the tekton and snapon flex heads should be tested to level the playing field. Just sayin.
I just bought the long handle Carlyle ratchet a few days ago and noticed that it is pretty slim compared to other 3/8 ratchets but I've heard good things about them and I like that they have rebuild kits.
I hope you love your Carlyle ratchet as much as I love mine. That thinner profile is one of their advantages IMO, it can allow them fit into places others can't. If the Carlyles have normal use, they will last you forever. I would prefer to never use any of my ratchets with a cheater, especially a 3/8". That is what breaker bars are for!
@@thomassenemounnarath3278 generally speaking Taiwan makes some of the best electronics. Not sure I would even want a USA made electronic…it would be made with Taiwan/Chinese parts anyway.
A lot of people mention the difference in design of the ratchets and I agree it is unfair to compare various designs in the same stress tests. Another issue was when he was testing the flex head ratchets he didn’t slide the cheater bar all the way up to the head of the ratchet and left the flex head joint uncovered which caused the flex head joint to fail a few times before the ratchet mechanism or the anvil themselves failed. However I will say I own a few of these ratchets and it’s nice to see the specialty ratchets tested as when I watch tool reviews most people are only comparing the basic ratchets.
Why would u compare ratchets like Mac and powerbuilt thats,a flex head and not a fixed head? Do a fixed head Mac and see the results please.. kinda not fair a silly not apples to apples
I've got the Milwaukee in 3/8 and 1/4 and they've been great. The end of the handle is bulky and heavy in my opinion. I wonder how the non flex head versions of Mac and wright would have done. Hope you show one with those.
Why ? Because a flex head ratchet broke by being misused with a long cheater bar on it ? I'm willing to bet that being used by a pro everyday for years the American made MAC keeps going long after the pawls on the disposable Harbor freight ratchet wear out.
Tyler Snyder It’s not the best just because it’s off of a truck. I have a couple of Pittsburg pro ratchets and when I need a ratchet they’re the first ones I pick up and they’ve been put through it and still work just fine. If you buy everything off of the truck you’ll spend your whole paycheck. Also if they do break I can get them warrantied that day on my way home instead of having to wait a week. They’re way cheaper also, it’s the way to go.
@@huntguy3831 I do not buy my tools off a truck, but when I can help it I do buy American made hand tools as much as possible. I will never buy an import for a similar price to an American option just because it has flashier more modern features ( lots of this kind of stuff out there these days ) I'm willing to get used vintage American tools too if I can't afford something brand new. There are loads of brands or manufacturers who fell by the wayside who made great tools you can get a good deal on because they're not a household name these days. I don't need the most modern design or highest tooth count. I'm fine with a good ol' MDF / Easco rhft or old Williams and Wright round heads. They're strong durable tools when used as intended and can often be had for less than a in imported HF jobbie, they'll last longer too. I don't know how many old American ratchets I've seen that were just wrecked on the outside but still perfectly smooth after a little clean and re-lube. Btw it does help to know who manufacturers what for which other brands, there are a number of tools from the various truck brands that can be had for much less from the OEM. Vaughan, Wilde, Channellock, Malco, and Trusty Cook to name a few all supply various tools to countless other brands including the trucks who charge a premium for their name.
Right On, Thanks Chris! Carlyle is still my go to ratchet. Hands down, I have taken all other ratchets to the house box. Nothing but Carlyle in the shop boxes and service truck. Thanks Again for the test to failure.
I have 2 of the all metal handle 3/8 ones and love them. I also have a 1/4 comforter grip that I really like for small jobs. There good tools I have a soft spot for them!
Bobby Garrett the 1/4” Carlyle has been garbage as far as QC . Three technicians in our shop purchased the 1/4 inch ratchets and all three of them had the heads lock up. Would not turn in either direction. NAPA quickly replaced them with three more that locked up as well. Manager at the NAPA said the 1/4 version was having major issues. I got a credit on my second one and used it to purchase some triple square sockets.
@@prevost8686 That's good to know. I had not heard that. My Carlyle 1/4 Is the comfort grip short one. I don't use it to often but it hasn't failed me yet luckily. What model did you have fail non comfort or comfort grip? I ask because the 2 are different slightly.
MY TRUE STORY-About Kobalt. ....13 Years ago I bought my first ever cordless impact wrench (Electricians didn't carry those back then -nowadays all of us have them, funny how times change) . . . I bought a set of Kobalt impact sockets to get me through until I could afford to buy a better industrial grade set from SK, Proto or Williams at a later time. . . . . Well, that was 13 years ago, and I never upgraded because I never needed to. I am still using those Kobalt impact sockets today 13 years later and they're still going.
I have it from good authority that some early Kobalt was made by the Williams Brand owned by SnapOn much the same way that CAT for Caterpillar Tractors branded tools are made under the Williams name. Maybe you got a Williams set.
Sockets lasting an electrician 13 years...not very surprising sorry. Unless it's visibility thinner and dirt cheap, average sockets are pretty comparable to each other just like these wrenches
And it was a locking flex and I have that ratchet and its a thin yoke compared to the Taiwan units the non locking axis 90 tooth ratchet is a reverse yoke desigh and is much stronger and also the Mac axis is a smaller head desigh that these other ratchets to gain access in engine compartments boltr did a video on this axis ratchet line
Sign Deals Disappointed because a tool failed to abuse? I’ve got Mac ratchets that I’ve used daily for 28 years as a professional technician that have never even had a head kit put in them. I also never abuse my tools by putting cheater bars on them. I’d rather have the one Mac ratchet than The whole pile of Taiwanese knockoffs.
Mac tools are a joke. I bought a dewalt mid ranch half inch impact and just so happened my boss bought a brand new mac half inch impact off a crack head for 50 bucks brand new. Both impacts are exactly the same. They are the same tool, dewalt battery fits on it, same numbers on the side same noise and everything. Dewalt is 200 dollars and mac is over 300 hundred. Fucking ridiculous, I don't get into big name brands like that cuz they a scam.
Great video which showed that most brands are suitable for normal use. I was interested to see that the torque measurement showed negative numbers when you spun the handle backwards. Another nice test would be to see how smooth the ratcheting action is i.e. how low that reverse number is on the various wrenches. Equally as interesting would be a test showing just how much angular deflection is required to engage a new tooth. Let's see how much difference that tooth count really makes.
Very nicely done Chris 👍👍 I was happy to see Kobalt perform so we'll. I bought a set from Jeff aka DaBear at Den of Tools last year. Again some expensive ratchets not testing out very well. For the money I would say Pittsburgh and Kobalt did themselves proud !!! Have you tested the regular Pittsburgh, the non pro?? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
No Husky? I'm not loyal to them it's just they are very common. It would be nice to see how they rank especially for the price. Im a huge Milwaukee fan so that was great to see. Either way great work!
@@TSGear yeah, I have seen a few of his videos, but never saw anything about previous ratchet breakpoints shown except this one. Was nice to see the whole list.
You went the extra mile to break the Tekton, break the Carlyle! Also, I'd be interested to see how the QR Tekton would do to compare it against the non-QR Tekton you tested.
I bought a 24" or 25" PowerBuilt Flex... on Amazon for a good price.... I use that thing if I need to put a little extra cheese on it....if I'm not able to get an impact wrench in there..... it works good
I already have a custom Tekton and didn’t need the Carlyle to end up the same way. I did try more than I showed unsuccessfully to get more out of it. If used properly the Carlyle I used is fantastic.
I just bought the MAC you tested today brand new for 90$ plus 10$ for shipping. I believe it's a 149$ ratchet on MAC tools site. I couldn't pass it up being brand new for that price. Great addition to my MAC collection!Haha
Great test! In episode 3 I would love to see the NAPA Carlyle slim teardrop 60 tooth ratchet. This is the full chrome polished, non comfort grip handle.
I am considering the 15" wright 1/2 currently. I love my tekton but I want a Longer handle fixed head ratchet that is Stout for suspension work. If I could find a old duralast low count Long handle 1/2" I'd be happy with that to but not many on ebay.
As I have said in other posts, give Wera a try. Would love to see how German Steel stacks up. I have several Wera ratchets and universal joints. Couldn't afford their sockets. Too rich for me. Besides I would only loose them. lol
I have that Pittsburgh pro 3/8” swivel. It’s a great tool for the money. It’s made in Taiwan where so many good tools can be made. With a coupon it’s less than $14!
It's actually a Tekton clone. Likely made in the same factory. www.tekton.com/swivel-head-ratchets Also there's a weird $5 off any Pittsburgh pro ratchet online that usually works on these as well.
Late to the party. The Milwaukee hand tools have impressed me, actually all Milwaukee tools is top shelf products. The testing of flex against a non flex is not exactly fair. The Wright tools and Mac ratchet failed at the pin, not the gears. I would like to see either all flex or all fixed head designs. My favorite feeling, working with ratchet is the Matco locking flex head.
I absolutely love my Carlyle ratchets to death. I've been abusing them today with a cheater bar and they are holding strong as ever. #LifetimeWarranty I think it would've been cool to see you break the Carlyle ratchet like the Tekton in pt 1. I remember you bending the handle back and forth on the Tekton and then finally destroying the anvil; I bet that could've been achieved with the Carlyle.
Bonbon Flippers Would that have been Wright 3425? I have that ratchet too, but the neck is so slim near the ratchet it most likely would have bent like the Carlyle did.
@@ClientGraphics no you should do all fixed head ratchets vs fixed head ratchets!LOL pretty simple. Then flex head ratchets vs flex head ratchets! It's common scence.. not being a smartass just being honest and real. Ugh
@@ClientGraphics there is that one that's thin at the neck but also a 7inch one that is thicker. I have both but I'd be happy to see either for testing.
I use the Milwaukee rachet almost every day. I have noticed it’s prone to hanging up, like the detent springs aren’t strong enough. The chrome is pretty tore up, and it switches directions by accident easily. Still a good ratchet, but I still turn to my snap on for ease of use and overall build quality. For those that read this, I still highly recommend the Milwaukee ratchet, mostly because of cost/efficiency, I’d easily buy 5 more in different sizes. But for my go-to every job rachet snap on is super hard to beat. Matco is junk because they don’t make tools, they just rebrand them. Master force hammers are the worst I’ve ever used. Their sockets are decent though for the price, never dared waste my time with their ratchets. Anything Napa will be good. No complaints. Not a snap on fan boy, but they do hold the crown for ratchets if you’re willing to pay nearly $200 for a single ratchet. I sold a lot of my snap on sockets for Milwaukee ones because I could get a whole toolbox full of stuff for the price of two sets of snap on sockets that usually get lost or stolen long before broke. Haven’t broke a Milwaukee chromie on an impact yet either. Lol
I did a Dewalt tool set from Costco review the 3/8” drive ratchet was tested in that video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jAjI9F0bvQY.html
Of course what really matters is what is the most comfortable one in the hand when your wrenching all day long. Some of those handles dont look that comfortable.
This is so true. I keep buying ratchets trying to find that perfect handle for myself...and sometimes it's the cheap brands I like holding such as kobalt
I'm surprised at the low performance of the MAC Axis locking flex head ratchet. I'm wondering if the locking flex head joint is its achilles heel since the ratcheting head seemed ok. Perhaps in your next test you could try a long handle fixed head Proto precision ninety series to confirm. Thanks for sharing & testing
I've got the vr1890lfpa and I love that ratchet. I put a four foot bar on it just to get the crank bolt from my 06 g35 and it didn't break a sweat. I notice the 1/2 is much more built in comparison to the Matco and Snap On in 1/2 drive.
@@BrentVdz907 Yeah 200 ft lb is a lot for a 3/8 especially flex head I think lug nuts are 120 ft lb I'd never use a 3/8 on a lug nut. Thing about it is if you're going to use the ratchet every day the Mac is probably the best option.
To reduce and possibly prevent ratchet damage. I purchased 3 very tough Icon breaker bars. I also purchased the Icon wobble extension set. My newer Kobalt 90 Tooth ratchets should last a long time.
Can you do the backdrag test e the Milwaukee ratchet please. Bcuz there very sweet and super smooth on backdrag. And next time try a MAC that's a non flex head. Strait up reg MAC. Thanks again
This film was fun to watch! I'm sure you'll get some gripers about your method, types of ratchets used, and etc. But that's because they weren't listening to what you were saying.
Thanks buddy! I appreciate you watching and commenting. I’m trying to keep it simple for testing and these are all my tools and not some manufacturer hand out. The brands and types are what they are. I should setup a PO Box for anyone that complains and wants to donate a ratchet!
Try SK's new LP90 ratchets. Would love to see how they compare. Wondering if your old SK was low from being older and used more. I've got a set of SK round head ratchets and a 1/4" drive lp90 and they've been the best ratchets I've owned!
Very happy with my GearWrench xp120s. I own a slue of them, never had an issue with any. And those 120 tooth pawls really give you room to actually remove a fastener in tight spaces.
When it comes to ratchets, I only buy snap on. I just got tired of wasting my money on everything else. Don't ever put a cheater bar on any of your ratchets. Just walk over to your toolbox and grab your breaker bar.
I don’t at this time. However the Napa Canada UltraPro is very similar to NAPA Carlyle and a few other tool companies rebrand similar products to UltraPro. Was there a specific model you were thinking I can see what’s similar?
You should really do the Proto 3/8 J5249 is a low tooth count ratchet. But its one of my favorites I have the 1/2 as well they are my old work ones now my garage users. I have beat the tar out of mine and they don't skip a beat. You should really do a test on these! Best part there $35 ish and American made!
I’m gonna continue using the Pittsburg pro line up for ratchets, there’ extremely cheap plus durable and if you break / lose one it’s almost always between 8$-22$ to replace it.
I know it's expensive, but running more then one of each would make the test results more accurate, plus re-do the tekton and snap-on with the same test device
The graph/price and conclusion - High Quality! This seems to be a high quality channel like Project Farm. Keep up the good work and please keep up with those graphs/charts/conclusions at the end of the vid: they do help! Thank you.
Would like to see Matco in this please!! Milwaukee has done a great job with these new hand tools. Even their wrenches are superior to others. I had just watched a test video on wrenches. Milwaukee wrench slipped at 260 ft lbs.There stuff is quality and a great meet in the middle between too cheap and over priced tools.
Answer me this why did boltr get different numbers on the the snapon in his test and the Mac axis should be tested with the non locking flex and the Mac yoke is thinner than the competition aswell
I can’t speak for anyone else’s numbers other than 99.999% of people break ratchets with forces being applied by something that causes the leverage to be easier to apply through extension of the handle. I can tell you that I went with a digital readout and electronic torque transducer because it’s easy to see the results and highly accurate. It’s easy to validate that it’s accurate and certifiable to ISO and NIST standards. It takes out all the guess work between analog dial marks, math and possible variance and consistency issues.
@@ClientGraphics actually its very inaccurate because you aren't applying torque straight and even throughout every test pipe is in different locations like I said when applying high torque loads the angle and the incremental advancement to achieve the torque numbers makes a difference in failure as to ansi din iso and so forth I'm not trying to defend any brand but those things matter in a real lab test in which numbers are achieved that's all I'm saying boltr did just that and achieved greater numbers and I know this I have a Mac 90 tooth 18 inch ratchet I certainly went over 300 ft lbs with it as a 1/2 drive gearwrench xl failed to loosen an engine mount bolt on a cat 930g loader and that Mac axis is all I had and I bent the damn handle on it and it broke the bolt loose as that's all I do is work on big stuff hence forth my handle on here and another big difference in experience I have noticed using cheap tools and expensive ones as we have in service vehicles and tow trucks using the cheap stuff may work for a little bit when being pushed but it fails the snapon Mac hazet 90 tooth matco nepros cornwell stahlwille 80 tooth wright especially wrenches and in my field I've trashed many wrenches come to the party and leave the party intact where this cheap stuff and the supposed same quality hence icon as an example don't make the cut when pushed and add a little heat on the fasteners dirt and grime push it and ya those quality brands hold up cheap stuff has not shown yet it can
Go look at the Factory Gear Magazine Numbers here www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306388 Make sure you look at the second post you might have to register to see 2014 FG vol 7 pg 78.jpg Convert NM to ft-lbs and you’ll find out what numbers are more spot on. Seriously, when you understand what the peak torque on just 3/8” square metal you’ll know what numbers to look at, enjoy 😉
Usually, under normal conditions without a pipe extension, these tools last. For a worker to break it by hand, he must have the strength of a king kong!
You haven't had any "Tool Test Video's" in quite a period... Sadly missed! Does the HFT Socket Torque Adapter actually work within a 3% Variable or Reliability?
Not a very good comparison . You tested flex and fixed heads for max torque! Obviously the flex head ratchet would break first! Try doing a like for like test!
