"Intent doesn't matter" In a murder trial, intent is the difference between first degree murder and manslaughter, the difference between years or life in prison.
isn't like the foundation of a lot of criminal law based on intent? like if you assault a straight man coming out of a gay bar becuse you think hes gay, you'll still be charged with an anti-gay hate crime, even though he wasn't gay. intent matters a lot
A private school near me did something similar to a boy who tripped into a teacher who tried to get him expelled for s*xual assault, and was actually suspended until the hallway footage came out. Do NOT trust private schools to be any "better" than public schools, all youre doing is paying more for almost the same quality education, but the teachers and staff have far less accountability
When schools say they have a zero-tolerance policy for bullying, they really mean they have zero tolerance for people trying to bring the actions of bullies to light. That’s why they don’t do anything to help students who are getting bullied, and instead wait to punish the victims when they finally snap and attack their bullies.
The slipperiest of slippery slopes... "I know you're not a terrorist, but you wore green and that's the color used by Hamas and Hezbollah" "I know you just ate a hotdog, but it looks a bit like a human finger" "I know you didn't cheat on your husband, but you were seen talking to a man on the subway"...
@@That_Random_British_Dude they were pressured. the school did it because they thought it would appease protestors, the protestors were not afflilated.
The amount of kids in my school who were actually horribly racist and got no consequences while these kids were just using a spa treatment and essentially got banned from all schools is disgusting to me.
@@Anonymous1234-hw1ik Honestly, if showed it without context, they could've actually thought it was racially motivated in whatever way. Still sucks but I blame the dumb damn college more, they're in charge of hundreds of students and act like idiots themselves
@@ezrabridger3803the issue is they didn’t even make an *effort* to figure out what their intent was. principal even admitted that it “didn’t matter what their intent was.” principal should be fired
@@ezrabridger3803even without context, if you're thinking that it is somehow racist, you might not be qualified for a job involving teaching other people
I took it to mean, "It doesn't matter whether you deserve to be punished; what matters is the school's public image." So not crazy, just incredibly self-centered and amoral. That principal would probably also agree with Machiavelli's advice that if you have an unsolved crime, you should frame and convict an innocent to maintain the appearance that criminals always get caught.
What do you want to bet there would be some leftist saying that green face is offensive to aliens? And, that there would be others to agree and try to get them canceled? In this day and age, it doesn't sound too farfetched. Sad.
They don't seem to know...the other photo with white mask has them on his lids too tho his lips are at least free from it. Maybe they figured it shouldn't go to the lips.
@@tonyy920This could simply be because they didn’t read or care about the instructions. It’s also possible that they were messing around but they look more like actors in Vietnam war movies or Rambo cosplayers than people doing blackface. Specially since it’s green and they have a serious expression.
@@Hero_AR15 "Blackface is the practice of non-black performers using burnt cork or theatrical makeup to portray a caricature of black people on stage or in entertainment." source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface
@Hero_AR15 the term is used to refer to the practice of wearing makeup to imitate the appearance of a Black person. The use of such makeup was associated with minstrel shows in the United States from the 1830s until the mid-20th century; it is now regarded as highly offensive.
Completely laughable how this would have flown under the radar had the school suppressed their urges to virtue signal for brownie points after the expulsion
@@gujwdhufjijjpo9740 it only said they recieved money not from who, likely it was the school not the principal , i meant sue the principal personally for their actions
@@IfImCommentingStopMenah that goes beyond gossip. Stalking a person you dislike to find out where they go to school and getting the contact info of said school to then share a 3 year old photo with found contact info is 40 times above the tier of gossip bro
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Intent doesn’t matter. the principal was in the wrong here because the boys didn’t actually do anything. However, in other cases, intent doesn’t matter because you still did it, despite knowing the harm it would cause.
they were 14 putting on acne masks that were DARK GREEN supporting their friend who as far as we know had bad acne and was trying to treat it. their was no knowledge of what their actions could cause because kids don’t think people will be so out to get them for doing something as innocent as skin care
Why would it matter? They are not being punished for a crime, they are being let go for pictures that could cost the school bad publicity. The PRIVATE school that relies on its image to do business
I’m not gonna go into detail but that just doesn’t happen in most cases. My uncle has been in prison for almost a month in absolutely cruel situations that are 10000% illegal and worst of all, he’s almost certainly not guilty and THEY DIDNT EVEN BOTHER INTERVIEWING ANY FAMILY MEMBER OR ANYTHING. Idek if he himself got an interview. If he did it was not medicated therefore shouldn’t be counted. I didn’t know how the fuck that one dude was innocent in prison for 40 years (he apparently already had a criminal record but still) and my uncle doesn’t. He’s going to “celebrate” his 60th bday and miss his daughter’s masters graduation. We will be suing the shit out of that police dept. at this rate it’ll probably make the news when he fucking dies from them not giving him meds and probably selling them.
JFC how do you screw up this bad. Also "intent doesn't matter, just how the boys were perceived"? That's an excellent way to get your ass handed to you in court. And a very interesting strategy, considering this policy could only go wrong
@@CharlieOsooiirc, a while back, a photo of Trudeau was resurfaced of him wearing a costume of Aladdin and he used makeup to make his skin tone match Aladdin’s which was a lot darker than what you’d expect, keep in mind the photo was taken sometime in the late 90’s in which some of these actions weren’t really criticized as much today
@@HumburburI don’t really see a problem with blackface in that situation. It’s not like he’s making fun of or disparaging black people, he just wanted a good costume.
Even if it was real black face, the fact that they did it many years ago, and still weren’t allowed to go to any schools in California years later is mind blowing, social media has completely made everything get overblown. Everyone is way too sensitive.
Imagine being expelled for having something that’s dark on your face. Our society is down in a ditch and boy oh boy it will not get better until people stop whining about shit like that.
Ironically, these are the most racist because it takes this sort of thinking to react that way in the first place. Hence why people are tired of S J Ws and terminally online activists.
It is incredibly moronic for sure how many people in the year 2024 do they seriously think would do blackface seriously these people are just looking for racism where there isn't any
@@davidmays8974 I posted a variant in exactly one other comment. On top of lying, the fact that you felt the need to go through dozens of comments to find it and respond just exemplifies you as a terminally online S J W in dire need of touching grass.
@@Bash70 You're getting so triggered when I pointed out the fact that you copied n pasted a comment. The only one who's terminally online is you. All I did was scroll a couple of comments and saw you copy n paste the same one again. You wanna scream and accuse everyone of being an SJW when they even do something remotely against you, you sound like a sensitive snowflake on Twitter who can't handle different opinions or criticism.
@@oliverpuppetproductions8753Why go to such a crap state it's sad what the hell California became with the stupid laws don't even know how it's apart of the United States with the insane restrictions on firearms.
I don’t know if you’ll see this but the image of the school you used is the wrong school, you chose the one of the college preparatory and not the high school lol Thanks for documenting this though!
"Intent doesn't matter its how the boys are being perceived" crappy ass reason to expell them🤦♂️. Image if this happened to her and she get fired and she get told the same thing.
Ironically, the people who go out of their way to look for racism to be offended by are often the most racist because it takes that sort of mentality to react that way in the first place. Hence why people are tired of S J Ws and terminally online activists.
Umm.. yes it does. Lol. If you're doing blackface as a white person that's racist. But this wasn't blackface, it was just some guys putting on acne masks.
@@davidmays8974 So I can't paint my face black if I wanted just because some American leftie said it's racist? I mean, if not believing the same things as trans people is transphobic in your eyes, then I'm not surprised you think that.
What he doesn't tell you is that he didn't show the actual photo. I urge anyone to look the case up themselves, as it is the first image that will come up. The teens had the acne product all over their face, even over their lips and on their eyelids. I can't see it as an innocent mistake given how acne masks are used. A quick google search will not show a single mask that doesn't go around the eyes and mouth. This is the image these products market themselves with. These boys were looking for a convenient excuse to avoid consequences :/
@@great-wyrmII 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm an American & I live overseas. I wouldn't send my kids to an American school if you gave me a billion dollars. The American education system is garbage compared to that of. Canada, Australia, New Zealand & the majority of Western Europe.
The fact that a Catholic school did this, being cowards by succumbing to peer pressure instead of standing firm in the Way of Truth, the Foundation of their education, is disgusting. As a Catholic myself, I'm disappointed that the heads of this school did such a thing before having concrete evidence. Before any of you provide a paragraph saying that this shouldn't have happened regardless, I agree 100%. However, as someone who has seen thr abuse of power in the Catholic Church, it's disappointing that the heads of the school did just that.
Unfortunately, Catholic schools aren't much different to any other schools in many areas. They're more concerned with looking like they're doing the right thing, instead of actually upholding the values they're supposed to teach.
As a Catholic they’re hypocrites for casting judgement in that manner and not even trying to understand the situation fully and not extending forgiveness even if it was blackface.
@@faimynth6030 the packaging literally says keep away from eyes and mouth.... why on earth would anyone with the correct number of chromosomes put an ACNE MASK on their LIPS and eyelids. if bro has acne on his lips, thats herpes
Best way to think of this is the show itself was so used to people sucking it off that by the time season four comes in there that confident people will bend down to suck that they burst through the doors with it hanging out and go “who’s ready to suck!”…and then act totally surprised when people just start vomiting and screaming that they’re kids here.
My sister and I were doing black acne masks together one night while we were drinking, we went outside for a smoke her black neighbor stepped outside took one look at us and turned around, and then it hit us we look like we had black face on I’ve never been so embarrassed
That's crazy, compare that to the school Gettysburg who didn't do anything even though a black student had a racial slur carved into his chest...by teammates
If it was a few females, everyone would've understood them and kept it at that. Racism _and_ sexism, if you ask me, though I might be looking too deep into it.
@@josephtrainonthetrackI know that this doesn’t relate to what you said or the video, but how do you make italics in the comments? I know that bold is * this * But my brain is telling me that italics would be /this/ but that doesn’t seem to work
@@josephtrainonthetrack there was a case of a girl and boy doing this same thing (except with the intention of blackface) and they got dropped from everything. This is not sexism. If anything it's probably because most teenagers who are racist openly online are all boys..
My school theater program had a sketch comedy show we did. There was a black girl who wanted to play a robber in one of the sketches. One of the girls in the audience stormed out and went to the counselors office, claiming we forced the black girl to perpetuate harmful stereotypes... literally everyone chose their own roles and wrote their own sketches. Nobody forced anyone to do anything, it was just for fun and to learn about theater. The counselors made us write an apology letter as a class, the other people in the class had me write it and I wrote it as sarcastically as possible.
“Intent doesn’t matter” that’s literally what makes blackface blackface. There are multiple reasons someone might paint their face black ( costume, makeup design, face mask, etc). It’s only blackface if they intended to make fun of black people by acting stereotypical and “dumb”
It was once used by White Actors to imitate African Americans in an offensive manner during a time when African Americans were underrepresented. Now, this practice is so heavily frowned upon that even content from other countries is censored to remove the practice, even if it isn't blatant. The best example is the Pokémon "Jynx," who had its face recolored from Black to Purple in the English version of the Anime and the Translated Trading Cards, where it stuck with the Original.
@@SeaDog1667-1stLiterally why would you still care about that. If you do that in a racist way, you're racist, just like how if you do anything in a racist way you're racist, but I don't understand why people are blocking quite an important step in racial equality by being such snowflakes, if black people can paint their face white, white people should be able to paint their face black. And yet everyone assumes someone is racist for doing so 🙄, just shows you how judgemental and hypocritical the BLM movement is.
It is. Like I fully get why actual minstrel show style blackface is offensive, but at this point, Americans will see anything as blackface and act like it's the same as the minstrel show stuff.
