Studying a RAM Compatibility Issue - LFC 

As a retired Computer repair guy, I believe you are the best teacher I've seen on YT, good job !

my friend you should implement a dusting fee of like 1 pound and make it mandatory , they dont pay u enough to be breathing their skin like that

Thank you so much for all you have done for us! I have a RX5700 XT that I thought I had murdered in a freak accident and thanks to you, it's back up and running! I watched several of your videos and learned so much! I was easily able to determine that it was a blown fuse. I purchased a solder/hot air station and had at it with tremendous success! My technique needs improvement but I'm pretty proud of what I accomplished on my first endeavor! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

You are the inspiration for my channel. Everytime I learn something new.

Excellent explanation of diagnostic process. Thanks very much.👍

Always enjoy your videos, I have learned a lot personally, so thank you

Nicely done Sir !

very very needed type of video. thank you for the really helpful video

i really appreciate this kind of troubleshooting videos thank you for the video and good job

Nice work,keep up the good videos👍

When you first started recording and I saw the Corsair LPX ram installed, I thought you were crazy. LPX ram is, for my money, the best, most compatible, stable (at stock XMP) ram on the market. Then you pulled out the Oloy, and I was like, "Nope. That makes sense." I now just use LPX ram in everything, matching the speed to the application, and I've never had a problem over the roughly dozen computers I've built in the last 3 years or so. NO, RGB doesn't need to be there on RAM. It doesn't make it faster.

Tks .. on your comment about Adamant IT.

Very good Vid Graham.

That really was groovy .Your the BEST!

thats why its good to keep the bios updated.

"this video is (...) about investigating the problem to learn more about it" - I hope it's not just me who does this all the time. I even kept a dying hard drive in my system for months to learn more about the process. it got very painful in the last weeks. (complete system freezes of up to 45 minutes, and it was a data-only drive. once it died, the system even refused to boot until I disconnected it.)

Great video, I have learned a lot from this and keep up the good work 👍ps don’t forget to reseat the cooler

Thanks for sharing. I had to do a 'raindance' once in the past. Because there was no better bios available. Regards, Nico.

Crazy! That BIOS version was 1.0. Great video!

Rain dance, 1st time I have heard that. Great video as always

21:00 the board still went back to that wacky base clock haha

Thanks alot.... You are doing fantastic job ... Im from ruler area of pakistan have'nt so much resources like u but watching your vids now i could play good with first gen window systems(mostly came in scraps). Thanks again

I like the way you put camera. lol :D

Top quality fix!

awesome video thank you

That Sahara sand gets everywhere..

My God this is a life saver! I got a B450 Steel Legend a few days back cuz my B450 Tomahawk broke and i got the new board checked at the shop i got it from with my CPU EXCEPT for the RAM. So i get home assemble it and it would do this exact same thing i.e restart cycle forever. Im gonna take this board to the shop i got it from today and get the BIOS updated. Came across your channel recently definitely getting a sub and fuck Asrock for this stupid rain dance mess. Cheers

Interesting to note.. newbies etc 'Chunwell introduced its OLOy brand in 2018. A company spokesperson told us that all of OLOy’s products are made in Taiwan, where Chunwell also manufactures modules for other brands.' Another great vid and stay safe ! 👀👍

Great Stuff

last video 10k for 100k, and now just 5k! lets go Graham!!!!

love the start music

I had a bad time for a while with my rig, It would have random strange hangs when the system would fail to respond with no information or diagnostics. Finally lost the random hangs with some of the sata drives in the system unplugged UREKA!! I monkeyed around with cables/ports/etc for waaaayyyy too long only to find out that the problem was the fancy sata cables I bought specifically for the build (can't remember the brand) with one end with a factory 90 to keep from stressing the connector at the hard drive. Bad connectivity for the sata controller was doing wonderful things in Windows.

love it!

I have done some RAM testing using mix and match memory with surprisingly good results

keep up the good work love this channel

Bios 4.20 is more than 2 years newer than the 1.00 initial release bios the customer had on it up until now, no brainer. Also, there is no 30x ram multi in this board's bios, so upon setting XMP it selects the closest lower multi and compensates the missing amount with BCLK increase. I can see at the end that it shows "2864MHz" as CPU freq so it achieved XMP with 2933 multi and 102.3 BCLK. This is why it was set at that on 1.00 bios too from 100.0 BCLK.

I’m new to your channel. I’m very disappointed you didn’t break the ribbon cable on the ram, the customer will be disappointed too 😅😂🤣 NorthridgeFix send me here

Adam, I just wanna share small story of me fixing my RAM not working issue. I had a 2x4GB ddr3 setup, but windows was saying "Total Physical Memory: 8GB" "Available Physical Memory: 4GB". I had messed about with the BIOS, reseated the RAM several times, tried other RAMS, check the bios (BIOS was saying 4GB), did mem checks with mdshed.exe, unplugged things that weren't needed, power cycled and drained - reset the cmos and all that, and i just couldn't figure out why windows could see that 8GB was installed, but the BIOS and windows were only seeing 4GB. Anyway I was thinking "it's gotta be a BIOS setting or something"...still, just to be sure i got a soft bristle paintbrush out, some 99% IPA with an eye dropper, and took Everything apart and cleaned all of the connection to the cpu, the cpu pins, it's socket, the ram sticks, ram slots, and even the bloody power connections. To my surprise, that fixed it. Available Physical Memory is now at 6GB. Coulda been because i reseated everything and fixed a loose connection i was unaware of...but while cleaning i did see dust build-up on one of the ram slots and i think it was probably the cleaning. just because everything else looked clean, and i didn't notice anything to be loose.

I work on vintage computers (I've been at this a VERY long time). I can't believe I've been doing "The rain dance" and not recognizing that all I did was put a band-aid on it. Thanks for showing me I should be fixing the problem, not just finding the work around.

I'm currently running down an issue with a certain NVMe drive brand and certain motherboard combo. Finding others with the same issue posting online. Not bios related. Possible drive firmware related or motherboard itself related. Able to duplicate same failure with multiple same brand NVMe drives but otherwise works fine with every other brand NVMe drive I've tested.

Very nice!! :)

I had a similar issue with a B550 MSI motherboard recently. Same brand of memory. Had to do a bios update for it all to work as well.

Just watching this video triggered my hayfever lol

Hope you fixed that date on that board it was in 2019 nice thanks for that to good to know

good video

This is why I stick to the top branded components very few issues.

i have used OLOY memory in a few builds lately and it seems fine never had any come backs

Awesome.

The problem is that the Bios version he was using does not have a 3000Mhz option. When the Bios tried to initiate it didn't recognized the Memory XMP as valid and refuses to boot. Usually when that happens the Bios just loads the default DDR speed (DDR4 are usually 2133~2400) or the lowest speed available but it seems that this Bios version was also missing that feature. Updating the Bios added the missing 3000Mhz Memory speed allowing it to work normally. Well his board was on the first released Bios and they are the ones that usually have the most amount of problems. I had a similar problem when I was trying to OC a DDR3 Memory. It had 2 XMP profiles. The first one was a normal 1600Mhz but the second was a not so common 1666Mhz that my motherboard didn't support. When I tried to set it to the 1666Mhz profile the motherboard just ignored it and load the 1600Mhz one.

I find having the memory linked to the processor always doesn't help, even using XMP or not.

At least there is update fixing the issue, alto you can't even boot to bios to apply the fix. I have friend who had to buy older CPU to apply the update because it turns out the CPU he bought for the build isn't supported out of the box. Sometimes you have to verify the compatibility for build you making.

good work and very helpful to us keep up the good work m8 ... and any commant yet from the smart TheCod3r 😂😂😂😂 or not ???

I had exactly the same issue on a 2nd gen gigabyte motherboard.completely fixed with bios update.

Is the CMOS battery good? The bios date before the update was 02/02/2021. After the bios update it is now 10/31/2019. Unless the date reset with the cmos battery out and that part was edited out between the bios flashing.

Random speculation: The modules don't have a valid JEDEC profile in their SPD and need the XMP in order to work. And the pitfall with any "auto" setting in the BIOS is that you'd think it means something like "enable if present" or "enable if needed" or even "use some clever algorithm to figure it out". However, for a lot of motherboard manufacturers, it often means "use whatever settings causes the least amount of trouble for our support department". Which usually equates to "disabled". Could be what happened here. Someone thought: "XMP is (usually) for overclocking, and that can cause problems, so let's disable it by default (with the auto setting)." Once you manually set the speed, or actually enabled a specific XMP profile, the modules worked. It could be that that's all the update fixed and the BIOS now just actually looks at the XMP if it can't find a working JEDEC profile in the SPD. Just guessing though.

Same problem a few months back with asus 470- f wouldn't post with fury hyperx 3000 ram. One bios update later..job done. No guidance..just worked through that exact routine to gain the answer.

I think having just the BIOS file on your USB stick is precautionary more than anything, because flashing can easily brick your board. It's just trying to minimize what could go wrong for something as sensitive as flashing a BIOS.

Oh my, this gives me flashbacks to my old Gigabyte board, t'was a Z97 one. It worked most of the time but randomly every few months it would just start throwing RAM for some unknown reason. I had 4x8GB sticks in it, and I'd have to remove all but one, do a handful of BIOS resets, then it'd finally come back (claiming DualBIOS had to be invoked) and I'd be able to slot my RAM back in like nothing ever happened despite XMP settings and such not having changed. Weirdly enough I gave the board to a friend of mine and moved to an Asus board (which was rock solid until I moved to Ryzen), he slotted a 4690k into it and the board never complained. Not even once. But it was just so odd I had to do the rain dance ritual every few months with that old board. (CPU and RAM weren't bad either, the CPU I used on that board is still being used to this day in a friend's PC and that thing's still working great, and the RAM went into the Asus board and again continued to work great for years.)

nice vid

the memory is way newer than that mb and the mb didn't support it is my guess until you updated the bios ofc. before i buy a mb I make sure and look at all the memory that it will support

I've had this same exact issue on my last build, and wouldn't you know it was an asrock motherboard lol. They really need to add a disable xmp completely option.

heh, not sure if you caught it (i had to go back and look) but it was on BIOS v1.0 before you flashed it 😂 (with at least 2 BIOS updates between that and 4.20 that improved RAM compatibility)

Is memory slot 2 the new 3? ;)

ASUS B450M-A unable to find BIOS file. formatted my USB to FAT32, double checked its being picked up in BIOS, done all the normal diagnostics such as resets and redownload, different format ETC, there is no instant flash option. when in flash mode, nothing related is picked up?

Old Asrock and even newer Asus boards are real sticky about the QVL list. Like, my old Crosshair IV did not at all like HyperX Fury Ram. That's a reputable Kit, but it was too new to be on the QVL list and it just would not post with it in there until I bumped the baseclock. It was intensely frustrating.

I went back to intel because of a rain dance situation. I had a 3950X and 3070 and every time bios would reset I'd have to take my build apart to set pcie back to 3.0 which was a beast because I have a ITX sandwich style case. SM580 to be exact.

I had an MSI motherboard refuse to update bios until I deleted everything else off the flash drive. I tried. I'm comfortable updating a bios with any old flash drive, but this was a first for me! It was a b450 gaming pro carbon wifi. Similarly, I updated it for xmp issues!

I've been watching your subscriber count grow since the 42K, should have started earlier really. Nevertheless, it has been an interesting, if not enjoyable, addition to your content and is fast approaching a well deserved 100K. The question is WILL THERE BE CAKE?

Hi pal, can I send in my laptop to you to fix? When the charger is connected it makes a ticking sound, but doesn’t turn on. The ticking sound only comes when the charger is connected. Will obviously pay thanks.

I have owned asrock b350, b450 and now x570 pro4 boards and have never been able to run my memory sticks at their max rated speeds. I had tridentz, rip Jaws v, corsair lpx. 3200 ran at 2933, 3600 runs stable at 3200. I tried xmp settings and ryzen dram Calc settings.

Brilliant video, So i have a question.. My system i updated the ram to 32Gb, the system worked fine and booted into windows, I then got occasional blue screens. Can an outdated bios cause blue screens? or is the blue screen just a windows error thing? After this I updated Bios first (quite out of date) and that actually made me sweat as I had no post after the update restarted but after removing the cmos battery for a few mins I did get a post. So that was strange, but then at the same time I decided to re install windows again. So far it seems to be good again, but I actually have no idea what may have fixed it.

My 1st AMD board was an ASRock Taichi X470 Ultimate. Beautiful board but I found it to be unstable as hell and wouldn't run my 3200MHz G.Skill Ram at 3200 - best I could get was about 2933. This was on the latest firmware at the time. I ended up buying an Asus X570 board as the ASRock board has a bizarre issue when enabling Hyper-V and using a NVME boot drive - I got guaranteed hard lock ups after the 2nd reboot after enabling Hyper-V. Didn't happen with SATA SSD, only NVME. I need Hyper-V, so I had no choice but to get another board. Suffice to say, ASRock will not be high on my list of vendors to use again in the future.

Ah jumpers for goalposts them were the days😊

I want to point out that slots 2-4 are not generally the dual channel config with 2 stick. It depends on manufacturers. My asus z170 states clearly in the manual that dual channel with 2 sticks is slots 1 and 3. Same era boards from gigabyte and msi do use slots 2 and 4 but like i said it's not a general rule. The ram compatibility issue is not something new. It can happen with every board out there but most of the times is solvable with bios update. I remember purchasing patrior viper memory instead of corsair just because corsair had some incompatibility issues with my board and 3000 mhz corsair modules other buyers pointed out.

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How truly weird, that the XMP Profile changes the BCLK to 102.4 MHz. You can see at the very end, after the XMP Profile was loaded, the CPU is now running at 2.864 GHz instead of 2.8.

Nice job. Any reason for not having both sets of modules installed for 24 GB?

did you go back into bios and reset the date and time

I've got about 100 different BIOS on the same memory stick - they never get mixed up. Too many cautious Carols out there :)

why you see 102.3 BCLK when XMP enabled is because the bios didn't have DDR4-3000 profile. 2933*1.023 is close enough to 3000.

Do you recommend not using internet flash for bios flashing? I saw that it was an option on the motherboard o:

After I purchased a crucial nvme ssd for my pc I got a no post after installing it sure enough a bios update resolved the compatibility issue and it works now. no raindance required btw. It’s an ASrock board 🤷‍♂️

I also have same issue.... I bought 2nd hand RAM which has single rank 4gb. Tried it on hp z200, no dice. Returned to seller, seller said it's working, the replacement ram is still single rank. No dice. Put that RAM on h61 motherboard, it ran.

aaaah the pro 4's, i also have had many weird issues with these boards , had to do a build for a friend last month with a B450 Pro4 , and i always buy the same memory kit thats I know works and boosts perfectly on XMP with 2nd & 3th gen ryzen, now i had no post ... , tried another kit that wasn't on the list , posted and worked perfectly. i have started to step away from asrock for budget builds , i rather use the cheap gigabyte motherboards from now on

I've encountered this issue many times, one solution I could share is by re-seating the processor, since this addresses the connection between the CPU and the RAM slot, before updating BIOS SW.

Updating BIOS from 1.0 to 4.20 is bound to fix a lot of other problems, not just the memory issue :)

@15:20 Not buying obscure RAM would have prevented the "rain dance" in the first place. :) @17:17 Yeah, as long as it is in the root directory and the files system is FAT32.

maR yolO :) was/id super cheap in the USA. Way expensive here in Canada. From most reviews on them they are "serviceable" ram sticks at best.

Hey, is there any reason you always reset the BIOS by removing the CMOS, rather than resetting the BIOS from inside the BIOS?

I like to update every bios on a system I build just to make sure there are as few problems as possible.

Hey Graham, what´s the PC´s graphics card? Sorry if you said it and I didn´t catch it! Thx

I would do a bios update anyway

Did you mean slots 2 & 4?

@17:20 lol, no, it will not pick anything else from the drive, the drive can be full of junk, file you select is what will be flashed with

Someone doesn't blow out their computer regularly. Nasty.

i got same kinda issue on latest bios on ASRock X370 Taichi, i had to do a "raindance" to make actual QVL'd ram kit to work, involves booting with just one stick in 4. slot, loading xmp, shutting compuiter down saving settings, installing the another stick in slot 2 just to make it work. i sold this mb today just because it, before this latest bios i used this mb just fine, without issues with the same corsair ram... ASRock makes good hardware (like Taichis) but their bioses are utter shit, bugged as fuck and they keep braking them until they just say they wont even fix it...

I had this problem when i bought my 6th gen intel with h110 motherboard. Bought a local brand zion 8gb module but wasnt working on it; but tried the ram in a friends house and it worked. So i took his 8 gb adata and it worked in my pc.

Can a BIOS downgrade help with these kind of memory issues? And what would else could be done once discarded faulty memory and the BIOS?

He means slots 2 and 4. For anyone wondering why their system isn't seeing both sticks.

The one memory issue I've ever had was with an Asrock mobo and Team memory...Headache from hell.