@@jusboog7414Again, we speaking on, Pac all these years later.. Hell, this a, Pac channel.. Since you a, Biggie fan, I would recommend start a YT channel for him, because as you see... There are dozens of , Pac channels.... you just commented of one of many... RIP PAC 🥀😢🥀
If you re listen everything on RU-vid you don't. If you listen to everything while it comes out and unfolds, you have a better feel for it. When a song comes on, on the radio, and the next song clearly picks up on it in a deragotory way. Or something is the new big topic, someone new comes out, and you hear sublimimals in the latest record, it works better than piecing things with timelines in 2023. You lose the feel for it
@@ijumpjudyDmx did do subs actually. Party up in here was disses to Em(Slim) and maybe other rappers. Ny rappers don't usually say names bc of police, bad boys move in silence
Hit Em Up was no way disrespectful because Pac made sure he dissed you while he was still breathing. Why most New York Rappers never talk about how Biggie's Long kiss Goodnight was disrespectful, since it was released after Pac passed. Biggie even had the nerve to do a Freestyle on a Radio Station when he came to LA after Pac passed. Some New York Rappers need to stop protecting Biggie because he only waited for Pac to die then only responded, which was a real coward move that even costed him his Life.
@Siphamandla Freedom Sithole Big and Pac shit became street. People felt Pac should've kept street shit in the street, so Biggie taking his victory lap after a guy dragged him into some shit was understandable.
@godofthisshit your right about that. Pac mixed the streets with music. He even put some gangsta on Against all odds which showed he was scared of them
I wish people will stop saying Hit Em Up was disrespectful. But nobody says anything, when Biggie/Puffy released Who Shot Ya, weeks after 2pac was sent off to prison. Knowing he was just shot at the studio building they were at. Even Lil Cease said on Vladtv, that the timing of the song was release at the wrong time. Puffy knew exactly what he was doing with that. He wanted to eell records and it worked like a charm.
No Vaseline and ether , Mama Said knock You out , wild wild West ,the bridge is over. That hateful shit ain't even top ten lead to the murders of the goats fuck that song .
X was unknown at the time and was on an underground remix track when he said that "nigga 2pac can suck my dick". What the fuck does that mean? It means X was chasing clout and trying to get put on at the time. I love X but he is no Pac, if truth be told if Pac never died there would be no dmx - Earl benefited greatly from 2pac dying.
be real here Hit em up was devastating. it wasn't just a bunch of creative rhyme schemes with word play, lyrics or subliminals it was direct attack.. Pac picked on lil Kim's insecurities, prodigys sickle cell, screwing biggies wife those dudes took an L they weren't coming back from.
@@abc876 drop a gem. Nice track but a weak diss. The whole point of a diss song is to damage the other side. Hitemup did this on a crazy level embarrassing those mentioned. Drop a gem and long kiss goodnight would barely leave a scratch on Pacs armour
Nobody knew of Outlawz either but it made them pop more. What made Hit Em Up even larger is the fact that Outlawz was from the East Coast so it made the beef closer and more real.
@King Carter I went to school with Mutah and Mooney in Irvington so I knew them before they even met 2pac. Pacs mother is how they got connected and Pac had Jersey connects with Naughty By Nature being from around that same hood. Mooney is Mutah older brother that he referenced when he said Lil Moon pass the Mac and let me hit em in his back. They didn't blow and become known to the rest of the world until Hit Em Up dropped. Before that they was just a feature on a album. I fucks with Pac and the Outlawz but The Lox was spittin fire and still 🔥 til this day.
@tommy Harris That album came out in 95. The lox was already on DJ Clue mix tapes in 94. Which is my point. Lox didn't blow til All About the Benjamin's. Even tho I may have heard of them before that especially in NY because East coast buys bootlegs off the street back then. Same situation with The Outlawz(Dramacydals). They didn't even have a main group name to go with yet.
Facts all these random, dusty no name, subway riders had to just insert themselves in the beef for clout. Pac only wanted to diss biggie and bad boy, everybody else was clout chasing
For real! Ask new questions for God Sakes.. The Interviews are not worthy of being watched if the same damn questions are being asked.. It way more people who are just as important than 2Pac.. Interview more people from the 1980, 1990s and the 2000s far as Rap Is concerned.. Talk to other R&B/Soul Artists.. 2Pac isn't the only person who had an impact in this world..
That's on the interviewer to clarify his question. Inmean the answer is simple. Instead of being outright, they are being creative with their lyrics because they are lyricist.
@@abc876 hail mary was tight, tradin war stories was tight, "without your homeboys was tight" that "Baby don't cry" was alright...but they fell off big time, i never heard anything remotly tight, that from the outlaws after pac died ever again. And i always gave them a chance
@@abc876 Know your History !!! Go Listen to all those 2Pac OG Songs where they was Bombing On Your Favorites before getting Black Balled by the industry after PAC died
2pac Was And Still Is The Best To Ever Do It Point Blank Period And Yea When 2pac Came At You He Said Your Name So You Would Know We Miss You 2pac Continue To Rest In Peace
Love it when these New York and biggie fan boys admit to sneak dissing but are ‘shocked’ when pac tells exactly who he’s talking about! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I will never listen to any New York rapper when someone is debating about pac and biggie.
Pac didn’t have to sneak diss anyone! He was man enough to say exactly who he was taking shots at! A real man looks his enemy straight in the eye and tells him exactly what’s he’s thinking! A pussy sneak disses and hides when challenged on it! Give me a straight talker any day over a coward!
No one was trying to sell records through controversy and drama like Tupac. He was so eager to be famous and recognized that he would do anything. This dude even made a snitching record telling on dudes.
@@danielhenderson1744exactly hit em up dropped after aeom went number 1 on billboard 200 and California love was number 1 hit single. Pac already had the game on lock, these NY dudes tryna rewrite history
Mobb deep held NYC down They be in the crowd with puff daddy shiney shiny suit on hush if you fathem coming or song came out about California in death row days love NYC nigga just no ask your man's God for givee me nigga no ☠️🙏
@@fruitpac that's a lie..if It wasn't for 2pac first two albums...biggie wouldn't even had the opportunity to open up for pac..so stop..biggie doesn't have a keep your head up...or a Brenda's got a baby
Hit ‘em up was supposed to be disrespectful that’s why it’s called a DIS record. If it wasn’t aimed at Biggie Styles would have loved it as disrespectful he used to be.
@@abc876 New fans? I been down with Styles when everyone was just rocking with Kiss. Styles is one of the most disrespectful rappers ever! He changed his life but you better go back and listen.
@@_Tahmar keep telling yourself that shit Big put that get money remix out was a WARRING Pac answer with hit them up then them death row chains started getting snatched which lead to Pac getting shot . I called that shit to bet money Tupac was going to get shot that night the shit was so obvious . Bad Boy handle it the way they did because they was killing death row people FrFr BIg Jake in Atlanta , Snoop trailer getting shot up , Somebody in Bab boy Entourage pulling a gun on death row Entourage at the source awards and Pac getting smoke like a pack . If your beefing why you talking about it just handle your business.
@@bizzyjae2739 2Pac was a fake gangsta and trying to jump real a real gangsta which cause his demise cause he wanted to play Gangbanger for a day.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like Styles have Emacity towards 2pac because 2pac murder the whole badboy on one track, who ever told them not to was smart enough to know if they did they career wouldn't have gone to far
@@BigGfromgrouphome sound like you really in your feelings I like the lox two but they weren't touching the outlaws lyrical abilities they never got the opportunity to even record or put a real album out because of the beef kill all that trash shit bruh ya play list not fukn with mines they're one of the best New York hip-hop groups because Niggaz down south was not listening to the lox I was
NO DISRESPECT 2 STYLES P, BUT IF THEY WOULD'VE SAID ANYTHING AT ALL, KADAFI & HUSSEIN WOULD'VE BODIED THE LOX ALONE.....SOOOOO YEEEEAAH IT'S GOOD THEY DIDN'T GET ENVOLVED IN THE BEEF BACK THEN
Drop a gem on em played with Pac’s manhood with the rumors of him getting raped in Rikers. They dug into his robbery, also the who shot ya? That song drove Pac crazy. The song came out just as Pac was shot dead.
Making up facts lol 😂 pac destroyed P “don’t thAt nigga have sickel cell “ plus they were biting pacs thug persona . As a fan of both and I seen mobb deep live they can’t hold a candle 🕯 to Pac. I was alive 2 see it I was there . the album didn’t even realease until Oct 8 1996 the single came out late August 26th. Two weeks before PAC WAS SET UP IN VEga$
I'm from Oakland love to pac King James version I was bumping that 6 times today meet a Mexican who is from far Rockaway Queens why out here Oakland like today shit Krazy but yeah 2pac born NYC got his game welcome to Baltimore the Los Angeles what did that sign say in California love video WELCOME TO WHERE? EVER WANTS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHERE DO WE SAY WELCOME TO? 😂😂😂😂😂🌉🌉🌉☠️☠️🫵💲
@@ijumpjudyHe couldn't even get on like that until after Pac and Big passed. No disrespect to DMX, but not at that time. DMX dissed Pac in 96 but as you can see either no one knew about or didn't care at that time.
Hit ‘em up was one of the top Hiphop diss records of all time Along with (Not in order) -Dre Day -Back Down -Real Compton City Gz -Either -The B in Yoo -No Vaseline -Dollaz & Sense
One of the most disrespectful disses is Cam'ron hate me now dissing nas . " take ya daughter around my way, R. Kelly with her face, and ya mom a whip wop head 😂
@DuMySmokePlus fr they were all more quiet then a library while pac was dissing new york nonstop 😂 new york soft af. Mobb deep the only ones who barely responded 😂
@@pennywisetheherpesclownshout out to them because they actually did respond before he died and took the song down after he died. Prodigy and Havoc were real dudes for that. Biggie was on some lame shit finally responding after Pac died and talking shit about his death
That Chino XL hitemup freestyle response was the most hilarious response to tupacs record. It took the air out of pac and Chino XL just did that as a joke. 😅
That freestyle didn't take the air out of Pac. Only Hip-Hop headz knew about it. Chino is one of my favorite eMCees, but he wasn't mainstream enough to put a dent in Pac's career.
@CocheseSha it hurt pac so much that he made fun of Chino's braids as a comeback....Chino destroyed him on that simple but hilarious breakdown of who pac was. 😅
But why not you holding biggie accountable for dropping who shot ya & long kiss goodnight & the ugliest let's keep💯 he was rude & selfish & he was not to be in LA after PAC died
@@stevenqbosell Bro Pac was calling out Nas Jay and Big. Respectfully the Lox was still growing. At this time they was on par with The Outlaws. The Outlaws couldnt fuck with Biggie without Pac and the Lox couldnt fuck with Pac without Big. Simple. 3 years is a big difference considering Pac entire career was like 5 years so he was at his peak. Ghost was a puppy
If they wanted to respond, they would have. Their boss wanted to play when they dropped who shot ya...after Pac came for them, they got quiet. They were scared of Tupac and Suge Knight.
at this point mane stop asking these clowns about pac cause they all tuff tht he not around nd can respond like they want to... just like how they did about suge but soon as the news got out he might be coming home they quiet as a church mouse... but if he was still out snoop would still be like... u aint gone let him in is you😂😂😂😂... cowards mane...
I love the Lox but PAC would have been out of their league. Plus I don't think BIG would have let them jump out the window like that. They did the right thing by just making good music.
He would've gotten finished lyrically.Pac picked on an easier target in Big who didn't have the time and energy to Match his disses.If he lives past 1996 DMX and the lox would gotten heavy at him.
And that diss wasn't even all that.. The Outlaws messed up that song.. To be honest *"When We Ride On Our Enemies"* is a better diss track.. But the Lox will still win though... Easily.
THE LOX CAN'T EVEN HOLD A CANDLE 2 THA OUTLAWZ LYRICALLY, STRAIGHT UP!!!! WHO GONE BATTLE HUSSEIN, KADAFI, KASTRO AND EDI?? FOH😂😂😂😂 HUSSEIN AND KADAFI ALONE WOULD'VE BROKE THE LOX BACK!!!!🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
Little Ceasar, go ask yo homie how ill leave ya, cut yo young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased. Lil Kim don't fk around wit real Gz, quick to snatch yo ugly ass off the streets, so fk peace.
@@bigprob8744 he shot st two undercover cops and beat up a crip and a lot of others…show me evidence of biggie doing the same since you claim wasn’t about that action. I’ll wait.
Lmaoooo!!! they wouldve dissed Pac and Pac wouldve dissed back 10x harder😭 people forget the reason for that song was "Who Shot Ya" not sayin Big wrote that towards Pac but he begged to differ😂
I’m more interested in what he was doing after this. His whole death row east movement was in the works with Eric B. The One nation album. So much to look forward to. R.I.P.
Lol everyone apparently just had a magical diss waiting for Pac. Only an unknown/not famous Dmx actually had a diss and Mobb Deep had a response. Everyone else is just capping to save face. Mfs were shook musically to respond
0:46 Styles must've forgotten about his verse on Blackout - "I'm Pinero, so I hate a snake, rat, or a pig I pop shit 'cause I'm the second best, the first was BIG"
@@ronaldjohnson6304 You mad bruh?? You mad cause we have more advanced Rappers than those simple minded non lyrical clowns you call Rappers.. 2Pac made it all too simplified and is overrated as hell.. 2Pac is not a lyrical rapper at all and Jadakiss would have lyrically destroyed 2Pac with ease..
Styles’ reasoning for not dissing Pac is odd. 1. If you weren’t big enough, going after the biggest dog would have definitely made noise. 2. So what if nobody was doing it? Do your own thing. Be a leader.
If the LOX went at Pac in '96. Imagine that. I don't think Pac would have gave them much effort or energy . Maybe a quick line but just sent the Outlawz at em.Hussein Fatal and Kadafi at that time in 96 would have been able to go bar for bar with the Lox. It would have been a even battle at the time. But the rest of the Outlawz would get washed by The Lox in 96. Only Fatal and Kadafi at that time could have held their own in that one.
PAC destroyed the whole New York and nobody said anything from a peep to a whisper when that man was alive 27 years later every rapper from New York had a response for hit em up lmao
We thought the song was dope. Just surprised Big didn’t come back. We all felt he was a better rapper. Out of Towners are mad funny when they talk about this shit. NY been doing HIPHOp heavy for two decades which included a bunch of dissrecords. I would say it was low class the way PAC approached it but whatever. Usually there is a response. BIg Choose not to. I dunno. Last time I checked BiG kept going, Hits kept coming and then soon after DMX came out so yeah, nothing changes the momentum in NY
People still don't know what a subliminal is. When Biggie said "It's Ill when MC's used to be on cruddy sh!t took home Ready To Die listened studied sh!t...." that's a SUB. Making blatant references to people without saying a name ain't a sub my g. I absolutely believe The LOX would have got back at Pac if that''s what it came down to. They spoke about this years ago and they are battle tested. LOX was battling in their 30's. You think some young hot heads in their 20's with something to prove wouldn't go in? As bad as it was I think 2Pac's passing was somewhat of a blessing. A blessing in the sense of Suge was gonna stay in his ear about these rappers and pushing Pac and pushing. Pac wasn't gonna stop until several people got hurt with all that nonsense. Biggie said himself if you feed it into it's gonna escalate. Mobb Deep was ready to pop off. Just imagine Pac getting wind of what Puffy was saying on those mixtapes. Hip Hop would have turned into a really clown show with these videos, cartoons and bumper stickers promoting this fake "beef". I was a little kid back then but looking at it now it was all a show. Death Row and Bad Boy have a showdown at the Soul Train Awards and NOBODY threw a punch or fired a shot. There was a whole lotta woofin goin on and NO ACTION.
What fuels you kind of dudes? Like do you truly believe the bull you type? Like seriously. Are you that desperate for attention or is your ego so big you're truly incapable of realizing the stuff you just posted is moronic bull?
It was a blessing to him rapwise because he died before people could respond properly to him.Now we have this invincible image of him that wouldn't be there if jay z and ruff Ryder's had stood up to him.
No my guy by late august of 1996 pac was getting ready for a change ! If you notice by that time pac was done dissing biggie … and others ! Pac was working on a group album with the east coast and west coast artist to come together ! The album was called “one nation” … pac wasn’t even worrying about mobb deep ! He was going to let the outlawz handle them ! He wasn’t worrying about mobb deep lol pac had other problems to worry about ! The only rapper maybe pac would of went at was “jay-z” maybe .. pac wasn’t feeling jay at that time
It’s crazy how they say it’s so disrespectful as if he didn’t get shot 5 times. People trying to act like they would of took the highroad its comical or shows they p’s