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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
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@fmj1729
@fmj1729 Год назад
P38 differential thrust please
@TheNamePi
@TheNamePi Год назад
can you give a link to the su57 please
@CaptainBiggles.
@CaptainBiggles. Год назад
Thank you so much for doing this video, just what I wanted to see!
@CaptainBiggles.
@CaptainBiggles. Год назад
@@fmj1729 That would be super cool xD
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Год назад
F-22 VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR Grinnelli F-22 VS F-15STOL/MTD & SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight
@Serbian_War_Criminal
@Serbian_War_Criminal Год назад
"Can't touch this" -Growling Sidewinder's last word
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
Ahahaha accurate
@Serbian_War_Criminal
@Serbian_War_Criminal Год назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder do a dogfight vs the su 57 in a f35, it'll fun i promise
@kirsankaifat3702
@kirsankaifat3702 Год назад
@@Serbian_War_Criminal f-35 loses even to f-16 viper There is no way f-35 can win against su-57 in a dogfight. Just like kicking kids. On the other hand, bvr would be far more interesting
@Serbian_War_Criminal
@Serbian_War_Criminal Год назад
@@kirsankaifat3702 I know, i was joking, a BVR fight would be intresting though like you said.
@josevillalba6702
@josevillalba6702 Год назад
@@Serbian_War_Criminal Are F35 moddeling gun damage the structure? or skin fatigue?
@aaronutley
@aaronutley Год назад
Narrator: "The rounds were not, in fact, over his head."
@JC130676
@JC130676 Год назад
To paraphrase: "Nothing goes over his head. His reflexes are too fast."
@jordanvozenilek1092
@jordanvozenilek1092 Год назад
I want to see a Raptor v Raptor or Felon v Felon so we can see just how hard these planes can turn when they're trying to outfight a peer and not an older enemy.
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 Год назад
Bro two videos in a day? Bless you dude.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
working hard brother, gotta get the content out for the best subs here on youtube.
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Год назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder thank you for amazing content 👏👏👏
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 Год назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder Keep being you man. God Bless
@SV-Flying-Tigress
@SV-Flying-Tigress Год назад
I approve of this dogfight.
@andrewruss5824
@andrewruss5824 Год назад
You heard that guys StephenP39 approves 👌
@LumberGirthBrooksSnacks
@LumberGirthBrooksSnacks Год назад
@@andrewruss5824 woke up with a hard on today, thinking about StephenP39s approval for a GS dogfight. I was not disappointed.
@SV-Flying-Tigress
@SV-Flying-Tigress Год назад
@@LumberGirthBrooksSnacks .... as you should. Well done.
@malcolmarnold5659
@malcolmarnold5659 Год назад
That was one of the coolest things I’ve seen. That SU-57 is gigachad incarnate.
@benwatso
@benwatso Год назад
Im mike bloomberg, and i approve this dogfight
@mjtheko
@mjtheko Год назад
Something I noticed, you can't dump the nose defensively in these fights. The speed you gain can't be lost, or converted into an advantage nearly as fast as he can pull you into the Hud. Whenever you go under him, he turns into a leaf that can point the nose anywhere, while you're still a "normal" aircraft.
@user-ru5kn4mj5t
@user-ru5kn4mj5t Год назад
The Su-57 has a 3D thrust vector, so it can quickly aim in any direction and quickly turn around the axis, even fly backwards for a while. Even the F-22 cannot do this, especially since the F-22 has only a 2D thrust vector, so the Su-57 with an experienced pilot in a dog dump will win.
@jorkraven8819
@jorkraven8819 Год назад
@@user-ru5kn4mj5t in dcs
@wtf-hc3tp
@wtf-hc3tp Год назад
@@user-ru5kn4mj5t the F22 can do some maneuvers the SU57 can, it doesn't need 3D TV when it has those big ass rudders
@Someonehasstolenmyhandle
@Someonehasstolenmyhandle Год назад
Them bigass rudders need constant airflow over them, to remain functional, whereas 3d nozzles just force the aircraft into spin, depending on the desired manoeuvre...
@wtf-hc3tp
@wtf-hc3tp Год назад
@@Someonehasstolenmyhandle yes, which is why F22 can only do some, not all
@-sturmfalke-
@-sturmfalke- Год назад
The kill in Round 4 was beautiful. The manouver looked so effortless.
@sortastuid
@sortastuid Год назад
i appreciate you not spoiling who killed who
@wtf-hc3tp
@wtf-hc3tp Год назад
@@sortastuid I figured it be the SU57 the moment i read the comment lol
@Greasy__Bear
@Greasy__Bear Год назад
Im a bit of a lover of the su flankers. when I saw round 4 I was literally bouncing in my chair laughing. 10/10
@Invictus22656
@Invictus22656 Год назад
That SU-57 doesn't fly like a plane
@Greasy__Bear
@Greasy__Bear Год назад
@@Invictus22656 the su35 and su30 dont either.
@rokon5003
@rokon5003 Год назад
Just finished watching your Eurofighter vs Felon BVR video, I guess you are blessing me with a sequel now 🥳
@Zog26
@Zog26 Год назад
Like you said in another vid, it's like fighting a piece of paper. Those round 1 and round 4 kills were ridiculous.....but great viewing! Thanks for taking the pain :-)
@derwutgamer3570
@derwutgamer3570 Год назад
Well, right now its fighting a piece of paper. One plane is in service and proven, the other one is just a bit more than a fantasy right now...
@TomSarh
@TomSarh Год назад
I'm impressed at how fast this thing rotates in the sky
@GuMpAkC
@GuMpAkC Год назад
2 uploads 1 day. I approve of this! Thank you for your hard work.
@dystopianlucidity4448
@dystopianlucidity4448 Год назад
Two videos in one day? Awesome!
@BigZ-il5hg
@BigZ-il5hg Год назад
A video with you two playing is what we need more of
@idyllic.diaries2426
@idyllic.diaries2426 Год назад
A Su57 vs Su57. GS can you please take this as a video recommendation ❤️. It'd mean a lot to me^^. Thank you so much for your amazing content✌🏻
@zabdas83
@zabdas83 Год назад
Holly F! YES...
@DeletedAccountForSure
@DeletedAccountForSure Год назад
Yes Su 57 will win that fight. 🤣
@misterroongaboonga6738
@misterroongaboonga6738 Год назад
Spoiler : Su 57 will win
@fkreller1
@fkreller1 Год назад
"Can't touch this!" Proceeds to get touched.
@Capt_Tarmac
@Capt_Tarmac Год назад
Your videos are always FUN and many times funny too. So immensely enjoyable. This channel is the very best of DCS. Thanks for making them.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
Thank you very much and thanks for watching much love
@jonathonschott
@jonathonschott Год назад
6:44 the way you said 'look at that nooose!?!' spoke volumes
@PavanKumar-fy6fq
@PavanKumar-fy6fq Год назад
Love watching your Su-57 videos. Please make more. They're awesome! 😍
@JessidGallardo
@JessidGallardo Год назад
You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.
@hubril7921
@hubril7921 Год назад
GS:"I'm not having fun" That one Spitfire pilot who had to fight him with a TVC F22:"oh do you?"
@DarthMahlgus
@DarthMahlgus Год назад
To answer your question, it was ALOT OF FUN to watch.... I think you should do some more su-57 with you flying it. See just how awesome of shit you can do with it.
@savasyn
@savasyn Год назад
Ouch, that was a rough set of rounds. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
@aarontheaviationaddict3643
@aarontheaviationaddict3643 Год назад
The Su-57 is no longer a plane, it’s a UFO!😂 Suggestion for next video: Try using differential thrust in the MiG-29 to go against the F-22.
@Pand0rasAct0r_
@Pand0rasAct0r_ Год назад
could you make more long range fights as modern combats will more likely be longer range engagements. Would be nice to see more combat situations in that direction :)
@ImReflexess
@ImReflexess Год назад
or some squad missions. Moving like that in the SU-57 would get you killed by any wingman and not many engagements are going to be 1on1 in the real world.
@Amantla
@Amantla Год назад
Long range fights are not as entertaining imo.
@teemukiog
@teemukiog Год назад
I get the point but for me this channel is all about maneuvering these beasts, pure skill taking those to limits. BVR is interesting too though but it's just tactics not flying. i think this channel is more of an entertainment and pure class in that genre.
@reboundrides8132
@reboundrides8132 Год назад
You mean real combat situations? And not these absolutely far fetched dogfight scenarios?
@shraka
@shraka Год назад
@@MrRobertX70 With the amount of stealth this and an F-22 has, BVR might not be that common in 5th gen combat.
@Amantla
@Amantla Год назад
He preturned so much before, he was halfway through his turn at the merge. I thought the point of the merge was that was when you could start turning.
@VyarkX
@VyarkX Год назад
Its called a “lead turn”, where you begin your pull into a turn slightly before the merge. This, like you said, allows you to gain an advantage by being further along in the turn already when the merge happens. A 1v1 fight after the merge usually means weapons can be employed after the merge. Its usually good etiquette to enter the merge at as level a playing field as possible (same speed, etc), so you can maneuver as much as you want, but no guns until merge. A lead turn is usually close enough to the merge that it is seem as the move which initiates the fight. Most fox 2 fights can be determined by who lead turns better.
@Amantla
@Amantla Год назад
@@teeanahera8949 Yes I worded that very poorly.. thought the point of a merge is so you are level playing field at the merge then can start turning.. Felon was almost facing perpindicular at the merge already halfway through his turn which I do not understand how that is fair... "syrian lead turns" and whatnot
@theamericancommie727
@theamericancommie727 Год назад
@@Amantla it’s an illusion, they both lead turned but the felon just turned so hard it already did completed more than half its turn.
@Drew-xn3ym
@Drew-xn3ym Год назад
Absolutely love when you and LONGSHOT do a video lol
@knowa2911
@knowa2911 Год назад
Can we see a F-16 vs SU-57 video? My personal favorite jet is the F-16 and I would like to see what it can do against the SU-57. I highly doubt the F-16 will win even one round but I would like to see how it goes, because I think a while ago you beat the F-22 in the F-16. Thank you GS!!
@MattWaller04
@MattWaller04 Год назад
Awesome job to both of you! Great flying
@Stlaind
@Stlaind Год назад
I would love to see a fight between a tomcat and an approximation of the F-15N or F-15N-PHX since those were suggested as naval fighters to replace the F-14 at one point. They came out at 3k and 10k pounds heavier respectively and that should make the fight a lot more interesting
@bandohabandoha2482
@bandohabandoha2482 Год назад
I think round 3 was what broke GS, the resignation in his voice was apparent when he went “good kill””good kill”
@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta
@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta Год назад
Always excited to see the typhoon come out to play... being a brit and all... despite it being a little bit crazy for a gen 4 it has no business trying to turn with a TV gen5. Don't know how it would do against a TV flanker tho. I think it would do reasonably well against a viper tho. At least fighting it to a draw.
@MatoVuc
@MatoVuc Год назад
Kudos to Longshot. that first round was something else.
@fadhilramadhan6765
@fadhilramadhan6765 Год назад
That first round literally last for 10 second. The Su-57 throttle vectoring is really scary
@imranaiman7184
@imranaiman7184 Год назад
I can basically hear all of Longshots laughs with all the kills😂
@stalintheliberator2454
@stalintheliberator2454 Год назад
That eurofighter just lost control in the last round lol 😂
@christopherstawisky8537
@christopherstawisky8537 Год назад
"Hydraulic failure." "What??" "HYDRAULIC FAILURE."
@davidabarak
@davidabarak Год назад
I think one reason minimal Gs are experienced by Felon pilots during tight pivots is that much of the center of gravity is right behind the pilot, rather than some relatively distant point in the air at the center of even a tight standard turn. I was curious to know if there was any sort of flight control inside the cockpit to augment the stick for this tight pivoting turns and from what I could tell there isn't anything special.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 Год назад
No, it's because he's fighting so slow.
@rocsolid4278
@rocsolid4278 Год назад
Looks like you need a helicopter to go one circle with the Felon. Would be fun to see it as a guns only fight. Awesome video tho, enjoy the content!
@1MADZ
@1MADZ Год назад
I don't even think the F-22 turns that tight as that first engagement showed that's crazy
@Jasontvnd9
@Jasontvnd9 Год назад
I mean a Typhoon i a very agile fighter so.
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo Год назад
Hey GS, you've gotta make like.. Some sort of controls and graphics guide for most of your games. IL-2 Shturmovik looks absolutely beautiful, and even with my own 3080ti runs it terrible. Plus, you have a semi in-depth setup like me, and I'd love to see what you use to fly!
@caleblarsen5490
@caleblarsen5490 Год назад
That first fight, he Syrian lead turned you, and he still freaking won the fight. I couldn't believe my eyes.
@murph3194
@murph3194 Год назад
"I've cut your bloody Wing off" "No you haven't" "LOOK!" "I've had worse."
@Pulkit076
@Pulkit076 Год назад
You say whatever but Su-57 just looks drop-down gorgeous 😍😍
@JohnDoe-fo7yi
@JohnDoe-fo7yi Год назад
Its funny, a lot of people hate how it looks. Never understood it!
@MoistGrundle
@MoistGrundle Год назад
Seeing the Eurofighter without its wings is like seeing a chicken without its feathers lol
@akaashbhadra7329
@akaashbhadra7329 Год назад
It was too funny in the end. Sorry Sidewinder 😂😂
@MichaelMedley4270
@MichaelMedley4270 Год назад
the trust vector again at 2:30-2:39 classic SU-57 move
@pilot_xoan
@pilot_xoan Год назад
It looks that Eurofighter Typhoon was the only one able to take the Su-57 out of the sky!!!
@Alexandros85
@Alexandros85 Год назад
"you can't touch this" great video Mr sidewinder
@johnhanlon9408
@johnhanlon9408 Год назад
Smart move- turn your whole plane into a flare- that will fool him
@Nobodys631
@Nobodys631 Год назад
No way I asked him to this video bro he reads his comments
@maxout214226
@maxout214226 Год назад
That first flat turn that the SU made looks impossible to the eye. Im not a modern jet buff so I dunno, but that looked like something that could only happen with modded content
@user-ru5kn4mj5t
@user-ru5kn4mj5t Год назад
The Su-57 has a 3D thrust vector, so it can point its nose as it wants and spin around its axis like a leaf. So can several more models of Russian fighters, for example, the upgraded MiG-29, Su-35 and some others that have an engine with a 3D thrust vector.
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr Год назад
I know the frustration of getting my head kicked in over and over that bad. I really appreciate you showing it though.
@CefiroGuy3
@CefiroGuy3 Год назад
The movements of the Felon in round 1 was like watching a gracefull ballet
@dioad1739
@dioad1739 Год назад
Great job Longshot and GS that things a absolute UFO.
@Ob1sdarkside
@Ob1sdarkside Год назад
His second kill clipped your wings, it made the eurofighter look like a missile.
@zooot820
@zooot820 Год назад
damn two in one day? we are spoiled haha. didnt know you were from Canada! happy thanksgiving my dude
@uno_1762
@uno_1762 Год назад
2 vids in a day!! gs been spoiling us and I'm here for it😂
@johnmackintosh4377
@johnmackintosh4377 Год назад
10:11 you could include Tomcat vs Felon fight as well.
@woistwalter7037
@woistwalter7037 Год назад
Yes, we had fun ;) Thanks for the video.
@jesperlett
@jesperlett Год назад
I wonder if the Su-57 capabilities are as inflated as the Russian military’s.
@user-ru5kn4mj5t
@user-ru5kn4mj5t Год назад
Do not even hesitate, if necessary, Russia always had enough to inflate the possibilities so that they hoisted their flag in the capital of the enemy. For example, in 1945
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Год назад
​@Юра Мальцев it's actually common knowledge that the SU-57s radar, DAS, RWR, thrust to weight, and maneuverability ratings aren't as good as Russia says. F35s in Poland have been tracking them as they fly in Belarus to give Ukrainians a heads up and they never detect the F-35s or detect their radars painting them (if they did they'd do defensive maneuvers since they'd think it's a Ukrainian SAM or similar
@kdub9146
@kdub9146 Год назад
I saw the differential thrust you used lol 5:19
@ihatemondays2876
@ihatemondays2876 Год назад
Felon at the merge be like: 🎶🎵STOP! 🖐 Wait a minute! ⌚Lets turn it around! 💃🎶🎵
@Rayidrs
@Rayidrs Год назад
Longshot is so aggressive with the Flankers!
@13deadghosts
@13deadghosts Год назад
Man, it would be so cool to see the EF with the TVC Variant of the EJ200 and AMK, but sadly they cheaped out and didn't go for the Upgrades., and here in Germany the even cheaped out of IRST :(
@boejiden7093
@boejiden7093 Год назад
The su57 handles like a UFO. It seems to defy the laws of physics when it dogfights. Crazy machine.
@sarhan3409
@sarhan3409 Год назад
Just imagine if India didn't left this SU57 program, there would be more than like 70+ of these and counting
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Год назад
They didn't because their real life capability wasn't even close to what they promised
@愛を込めてロシアから
@@saltyfloridaman7163 source?
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Год назад
The second fight, it looked like the 57s control surfaces were damaged, and maybe the engines stalled out.
@RVecc
@RVecc Год назад
i think a F-22 vs Su-57 fight with full intelligence packages and BVR to merge load outs (so Fox 3s, fox 2s, and AWACS/datalinks), would aircraft like these end up in the merge due to their low observability characteristics? Would it end in Fox 2s? Or does one have superior tech that would end it in BVR?
@aaronbryant1008
@aaronbryant1008 Год назад
That Felon pilot must like his borsch warm and served on time...He doesn't like screwing around.
@janethbarahona629
@janethbarahona629 Год назад
Now this is what I want to see. First it was the f22 now it’s the SU 57. Perfect. Next time let’s see you in the SU 57 just like the f22 fight
@hooviedoovie5220
@hooviedoovie5220 Год назад
the gun on that felon sounds mean. there's so much Gatling stuff going on that a lower fire rate is refreshing.
@danielberger1378
@danielberger1378 Год назад
I think that video couldn't come out soon enough for Longshot 😆
@rageorge3922
@rageorge3922 Год назад
Would loved to have seen the tac- view on those fights
@grndiesel
@grndiesel Год назад
We've all known what it feels like to be the Black Knight from Monty Python. "We'll call it a draw."
@trevorsmith5907
@trevorsmith5907 Год назад
Love the content keep it up man!!
@lewiodas
@lewiodas Год назад
the sound of the gun of the Su 57 sounds amazing
@Singularityv616
@Singularityv616 Год назад
I lost it at “I grow weary of these flights” 😅
@omaral-maitah181
@omaral-maitah181 Год назад
Su35 Vs Bandit Unknown Next Please 😈
@paulnav
@paulnav Год назад
Alas! The pain.........Great video and it is enjoyable....makes one think of really how.....till the next one
@riddlex
@riddlex Год назад
This video was fun even after knowing that it will be a tough fight for Eurofighter.
@parkebridgeman7223
@parkebridgeman7223 Год назад
Double Upload Day! Keep the great content up GS!
@michaelbeyer3530
@michaelbeyer3530 Год назад
I would like to see you and Longshot, do a dogfight guns only with the F22 and Su57 Felon
@pepijnbosvelt2526
@pepijnbosvelt2526 Год назад
I would say go into the vertical immediately if you want to risk it, keep speed high. Other option would be enter at high speed and split s. Below him however he’ll be able to get angles quickly. You need to create a fast two circle fight, in that you WILL beat the felon.
@DasIllu
@DasIllu Год назад
SU-57: I'm so stealthy! GS in a Eurofighter: I keep the disco lights on in combat! 🤪
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Год назад
Dang 2 vids in a day?!?!?!? Let's gooo
@jagc3763
@jagc3763 Год назад
I'm having fun! Great vids mate!
@kennyj4366
@kennyj4366 Год назад
Yes I stayed until the end I love these type of what if's.
@soradman68
@soradman68 Год назад
That very first turn, I thought it was good for about 0.00005 seconds. My brain went, "Ok, not ba- oh shit."
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 Год назад
As I've said before, I've seen the Felon fly at MAKS, and it's capable of some crazy manouvers!
@4rmand0r
@4rmand0r Год назад
The "OH whoa" was perfect💀
@TictacAddict1
@TictacAddict1 Год назад
I'm wondering if you come into the merge with a little more speed and climb to be directly above him.
@januslast2003
@januslast2003 Год назад
What would happen in a 2v1 or 2v2 engagement?
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 Год назад
That last fight, I was hoping that, even though you were going down, as soon as he passed in front of your nose, you'd open fire on him and get a pyrrhic victory.
@peekaboo1575
@peekaboo1575 Год назад
Yeah I was surprised he didn't try it.
@EricAero
@EricAero Год назад
7:10 - The Silence and the voice... This is what despair sounds like... I almost felt bad for you... then I remembered all the times ou were laugthing after a good kill in F22 or F18. 😉
@avikokhro1895
@avikokhro1895 Год назад
Your contents are awesome,would love to see more MIG-31 BVR intercepts please 👍🙂
@avikokhro1895
@avikokhro1895 Год назад
@@timothybayliss6680 even in this day and age the MIG still proves to be a formidable for with its powerful radar and hypersonic missiles.
@gneeley5393
@gneeley5393 Год назад
Hey Growling... What are your top 3 aircraft if you had to pick for dogfights?
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
F22 f22 and finally the f22
@gneeley5393
@gneeley5393 Год назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder lol well besides the Raptor. If you had to pick one plane that's best against random adversaries?
@easetheweeb
@easetheweeb Год назад
@@gneeley5393 im willing to bet his answer is going to start with "su-57" and end with "felon"
@danield.7359
@danield.7359 Год назад
I have fun watching the Felon win bigly! 😁
@omkarm.k2156
@omkarm.k2156 Год назад
Btw , why can’t you see the tail fin in the eurofighter mirror?.?
@DoNpHoBiATV
@DoNpHoBiATV Год назад
where did you get the SU57 download??? (which works) "Su-57 Public Build" does not even allow DCS to fire up...
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
thats the same one I use, works fine for me. maybe try repairing your DCS or ensure you've installed it correctly.
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