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Subaru VB WRX: Perrin Turbo Inlet & Secret Prototype Part vs Stock Inlet Dyno Power Showdown 

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Join us for an information-fueled showdown as we put the Subaru VB WRX to the test! In this dyno power battle, we're installing the Perrin Turbo Inlet and a top-secret prototype part, pitting them against the stock inlet to see the raw performance gains. Watch as we unleash the horsepower, torque, and performance figures in real-time, revealing the true impact of these upgrades. Don't miss out on this exclusive sneak peek into cutting-edge modifications for the Subaru VB WRX that could revolutionize your ride!
Cobb Accessport calibration for these parts is available from www.PREracing.com
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@jeferainman2990
@jeferainman2990 8 месяцев назад
You are the channel I was hoping to find. I like evidence and that is what you bring. Thank you very much.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Much appreciated!
@mrgusss3224
@mrgusss3224 9 дней назад
You are awesome. I had so many questions and you answered a ton of them.
@Antykain
@Antykain 2 месяца назад
Pretty awesome to see the results on the Perrin Turbo Inlet. Have you been able to disclose the info on the prototype part yet? 🤔
@JordieG8
@JordieG8 8 месяцев назад
It’s a diverter valve. Also, the removal of the PCV system venturi is stupid. It’s there for a reason, and that’s to keep the crankcase under vacuum during transient conditions. This is even more vital when running larger factory intakes / Inlet pipes due to the reduced depressions in them. It’s not a “boost leak” like Perrin calls it, it’s simply a recirculation from the outlet side to the inlet side of the turbo. A large portion of the energy lost is recovered because it increases the pressure on the inlet side which helps to decrease the pressure ratio of the turbo. Even if it causes a 5-10HP loss, it’s worth it to keep the crank case under vacuum. VAG has been using this system on different versions of the EA888 and for those without it, you’re starting to see people retrofit the venturi.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Negative
@JordieG8
@JordieG8 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T come one man, I like your channel, give me more than that! Lol Edit: oh, you meant Negative to the diverter valve. It was worth the guess.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Perrin has a fix for this, which is the lines I put up top on the car 🤗 Yes, the "negative" was for the diverter valve comment.
@JordieG8
@JordieG8 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T I’m not sure if they can fix the deletion of the venturi, there needs to be a decent vacuum source to keep the crank case under vacuum. When the manifold is transitioning to positive and the inlet pipe isn’t flowing enough to generate a decent depression. A mechanical vacuum source or venturi would be the only way. Personally, I just wouldn’t want to give up the benefits of having solid crank case vacuum for the limited benefits of not having it. It’s actually a clever solution. Moving to a venture style PCV system on gen 3 E888’s has basically eliminated oil consumption on track and helps to mitigate PCV issues when running larger intakes. In my testing of my own venturi system, it takes about 10g/s of airflow at 29PSi. The wastegate PID hardly has to do anything.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
@JordieG8 interesting. Now I'm curious, I'd like to measure how much vacuum it actually draws vs the solution Jeff came up with.
@yalitorres3723
@yalitorres3723 5 месяцев назад
When can we see what is this part
@chrischarles9218
@chrischarles9218 7 месяцев назад
That turbo inlet is a must on any tuned VB. Great video! I'm dying to know what that part is now.
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I was shocked the difference
@chrischarles9218
@chrischarles9218 7 месяцев назад
@@WT4T Mr. Perrin let you reveal yet?
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
@chrischarles9218 nope
@VBmike2100
@VBmike2100 6 месяцев назад
@@WT4Twhen!? lol
@racedynamix
@racedynamix 7 месяцев назад
Great video content, great explanations on the testing.. and congrats on 2k subs 👌
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
Just plugging away!
@ITZAWRAP_AU
@ITZAWRAP_AU 7 месяцев назад
Be super keen to see you test the turbosmart plumb back diverter valve
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
I'm super interested in why anyone would need or want a plumb back diverter valve when the factory one isn't known to leak or fail and is ecu controlled.
@ITZAWRAP_AU
@ITZAWRAP_AU 7 месяцев назад
@WT4T I personally changed it because the standard one drags when coming off boost and has a terrible noise when doing so with a air intake
@SubySlider17
@SubySlider17 7 месяцев назад
Removed TMIC for mystery prototype part and others have guessed Diverter Valve... I am guessing an updated EGR valve then hmmm... Awesome to see gains from both the inlet and mystery part
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
I'm not sure how that would pick up power but interested to see.
@SubySlider17
@SubySlider17 7 месяцев назад
@@WT4T yea just a guess, you seemed surprised in picking up power. Looking forward to seeing what it is when Perrin gives the go ahead. Cool video!
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
@TheSubyslider17 🧐
@Swaggie-Dee
@Swaggie-Dee Месяц назад
Im late to the party but the proto type part is a 4bar map sensor
@WT4T
@WT4T Месяц назад
You're just in time, but alas, it was not a map sensor.
@computerguru70
@computerguru70 17 дней назад
are you running a stage 2 on that tune prior to install?
@JSTwizzy
@JSTwizzy 8 месяцев назад
I really enjoy the content . Do you think its worth it to remove the coolant lines from the oem inlet to lower intake temps? Would it be negligible and might as well do whole inlet replacement
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Probably pretty negligible
@Kopernicus67
@Kopernicus67 6 месяцев назад
You cannot complain about the power increase. However, I just don't like how flimsy it looks compared to the factory part, especially the dangling coolant line. The original part was a solid (I'm assuming aluminum) block with a lip to accept the intake tube, the Perrin inlet just looks like a wide flimsy tube held onto the intake tube and turbo with not much for the hose clamps to reliably grab onto. I dunno, correct me if I'm seeing this wrong.
@WT4T
@WT4T 6 месяцев назад
The turbo connection is billet aluminum but the tube itself is wire reinforced Silicon. Pretty standard in the industry. You don't need much to "clamp onto" because the part carries no load.
@Kopernicus67
@Kopernicus67 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the clarification. Still don't like the coolant line, rather than zip tie, I'd shorten the coolant line altogether farther up in the engine bay, @@WT4T
@WT4T
@WT4T 6 месяцев назад
@Kopernicus67 I agree there but I left it alone so I can go back easier later.
@Chris05STi1982
@Chris05STi1982 8 месяцев назад
Ahhh Perrint prototype EGR!!?
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Not sure what that is or how it would make power.
@aaronbryan5095
@aaronbryan5095 3 месяца назад
I wonder why the stock turbo and turbo inlet pipe has that weird path that allows for boost leak to happen. Is Subaru using it as an unusual way to hold back power at high rpm?
@WT4T
@WT4T 3 месяца назад
They're using it to pull a little vacuum on the evap system and I do mean A LITTLE.
@aaronbryan5095
@aaronbryan5095 3 месяца назад
@@WT4T that's the strangest way of implementing this that I've ever seen from the factory 😂
@WT4T
@WT4T 3 месяца назад
@aaronbryan5095 yes sir. #engineering
@bryanheredia3374
@bryanheredia3374 8 месяцев назад
Does this turbo inlet require a tune after install ?
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Not on our maps, but I can't speak for others or stock.
@arielperalta1641
@arielperalta1641 3 месяца назад
Are you able to dosclose the prototype part yet?
@WT4T
@WT4T 3 месяца назад
I don't believe so 🫢
@boostedproblems5139
@boostedproblems5139 8 месяцев назад
Left & right is always from sitting in the drivers seat same for usdm and jdm
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say "always" scan tools can't make up their mind and neither can service manuals
@0Camus0
@0Camus0 8 месяцев назад
Just as devil's advocate, how much of these could be only noise from run to run? Humidity, ambient temperature, initial IAT, etc? Seems to me ~3 whp is just variance, isn't? More than 5 maybe is significant? Thanks, great content!
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
I do a series of 3-5 runs for every "test". As for environmental conditions all runs are same day as close together as possible and weather corrected using a weather station in the room.
@0Camus0
@0Camus0 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T My apologies! Perfect, then the change is significative and not noise. I wasn't expecting such an increase without re calibration.
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
@0Camus0 me either!
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 5 месяцев назад
@WT4T Any info on what the prototype part is yet? Second question.. does the turbo inlet need a tune, or can it be used safely on a stock car? (From a research paper : Effect of EGR jet position on gasoline performance and NOx emission :) )
@WT4T
@WT4T 5 месяцев назад
I wouldn't use any mods at all really on a stock untuned car because there's no closed loop fuel control at WOT on the stock map. Basically any tune even like the ots Cobb maps or my maps adds closed loop control and the inlet is fine on those.
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 5 месяцев назад
@@WT4T perfect. Thank you!
@carbon9652
@carbon9652 7 месяцев назад
is the Perrin Diverter Valve been waiting a minute to get my hands on it.
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
Nope. Zero interest in aftermarket diverter valves.
@carbon9652
@carbon9652 7 месяцев назад
scratch that seeing where is being installed is a Perrin EGR
@djdigdugg
@djdigdugg 7 месяцев назад
Was this an eye spy? You missed a spot :D
@WT4T
@WT4T 7 месяцев назад
Sure 🤷‍♂️
@chads7796
@chads7796 8 месяцев назад
Hmm improves driveabilty, smaller part, no bolts just the part, part # is psp-eng-250. I know it is engine….made a little more power. Throttle Body Spacer?
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
😏 maybe. I do have quite large hands. It could have had hardware.
@chads7796
@chads7796 8 месяцев назад
lol you are good. Well the bag was fairly small so only so many things can fit. You installed on the dyno so it must have been quick/easy. All I know is I want one and have a Perrin turbo inlet, Perrin mBPV and a few other non essential bits to add and a retune (currently dynoed at 354whp/356wtq on 93 Drunkmann tuned at Felix Performance). Wonder when Perrin will release this?? I will probably wait for it for a retune.
@Nom_Nomzzz
@Nom_Nomzzz 8 месяцев назад
I wonder how much power it will make when its tuned for these mods.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Probably 5-10hp more on 92oct
@ironmandingo1
@ironmandingo1 8 месяцев назад
im running an e40 ots map. how often do you think i should change my oil? i know it loses viscosity early. i have the 22 wrx
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Definitely not more than 3k.
@ironmandingo1
@ironmandingo1 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T thanks man. I might get that turbo inlet to run with my e40 tune since it doesn’t need any type of tune
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
I can't promise that for everyones OTS maps, but ours run it great.
@ironmandingo1
@ironmandingo1 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T ok. I’ll get with the tuner and ask if it’s ok to run it. Great talking to you
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
@ironmandingo1 it's ALWAYS a good idea to consult your tuner before changing parts. They know better than anyone in the industry what works and what doesn't.
@blkstang4830
@blkstang4830 8 месяцев назад
A shiny new oil cap 😂
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
You'd probably be able to see that in the video after the install.... but... 🤷‍♂️
@M0NST3RIAMP3D
@M0NST3RIAMP3D 8 месяцев назад
Imma guess it’s a throttle spacer 😅
@chrischarles9218
@chrischarles9218 7 месяцев назад
@@M0NST3RIAMP3D That is what I was thinking when I saw him take off the inter cooler. Some type of spacer that separates the heat from the throttle body to the intercooler... just spit balling here..
@renob98362
@renob98362 8 месяцев назад
Perrin? Like the T-shirt company?
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
They do sell t-shirts, but they've been making car parts for at least 20 years.
@chewy6367
@chewy6367 8 месяцев назад
Mystery part a DV ?
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
DV?
@chewy6367
@chewy6367 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4Tdiverter valve sorry.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Oh, no, no reason for one. Factory is fine
@chewy6367
@chewy6367 8 месяцев назад
@@WT4T great videos, very informative.
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, many more to come on this platform!
@woodzy575
@woodzy575 8 месяцев назад
I wonder how much power you can get from a lightweight crank pulley? nevermind, you can't fit a pulley in you hand. probably an egr jet or a spring
@WT4T
@WT4T 8 месяцев назад
Zero that's ever worth anything. I tested them a while back on brz and zero real gain with tons of issues.
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