Subclass Tier List | PvP | Destiny 2 S24 (E1) 

Only doing dishes cuz you said to, it’s like you knew I have a sink full of

fun fact: Monster energy has a pH of ~2.7, which is quite acidic but not dangerous, except to your tooth enamel if consumed in large quantities.

solar titan makes me so sad. Chain sunspots used to be a lot of fun

I am a proud owner of the ursa/armamentarium combo class item and I can confirm you get your super incredibly fast, I had a game this week where I got my behemoth super like 3.5 minutes into a game and the enemy team was not ready for it

Been using prism titan since release, makes cqc primaries, mainly smgs so good that I'm surprised i don't see it more often. You get glacial grenade to close gaps / doors and platform up, also for fast upwards movement, you get truster for one of the best mobility tools in the game, wich also pairs amazingly with pks if u are running dynamo since ur always close to targets. You get throwing shield wich after testing i feel is the best melee to use in the setup no joke, leads to a lot of 1v1s you can win by leading / finishing with a shield, you can also truster into skate while using shield to damage the pursuing enemy and get a comeback on the fight. It's not the most used combination, but i do encourage ppl to try it out just because it's really fun. Aspects ofc knockout and lances for snowballing purposes, one kill leads to another in trials if u get a lance wich you can force so easily. Tested the truster + drengers combo, but the ball breaks so easily that it isn't worth it imo

A fun fact in favour of stasis warlock and stasis/ prism titan is that the freeze rift and diamond lance can freeze a storms edge hunter after the teleport but before the spin attack. The timing on this is super tight and you only have one chance but it's a great shutdown tech.

Boots of the assembler have been working significantly better for me than speakers sight. The only reason to run speakers over boots was for the orb creation. Running a dedicated support build, no matter which exotic, is just extremely potent.

Hey cammy, quick Q, can you do a video on your PVE loadouts going forward? I believe you said you used one main setup that can just be transferred across all subclasses. Is that still the same? Can you show that for each character plus the 10 weapons in each slot you take in any PVE activity.

Its kinda insane that no matter what the meta is whether its stasis 5 second freeze and mini-nuke crystals, super threadling spam with threadrunner, or even just the current insanity that is prismatic Dawnblade is consistently up with them if not surpassing them solar warlock is INSANE.

I NEED the "My (insert class here) builds for s24 E1" Those are the best, and I bet you probably have a million builds at this point. But I really am excited for it :)

Thank you for explaining how good each of those S+ classes actually are regardless of representation in the live game

What was the flashbang buff. I must have missed that in the patch notes. Also I think putting gunslinger on the same level as berserker in pvp tells me all I need to know about this list lmao

Is it me, or does song of flame have no super armor? Every time I pop it, I get beamed instantly

ive been preaching the unbreakable tech, the aspect is seriously slept on since you get to turn ever ability prism hunters frow at you into super energy...its also just a pseudo-bastion aspect if you cancel animation with swapping weapons to save up on energy

Prismatic Warlock is overrated imo. Bleak Watcher gives enemies Kill Clip perks and Memento Mori if they destroy it, Hellion is too slow and shoots walls half of the time, Lightning Surge is good but inconsistent and it wants you to sacrifice your regular melee, Devour is okay but requires a kill, Weaver's Call is just all around garbage. And Lightning Surge is not even that good in this meta. Clones and Smokes hard counter it.

Great insight as usual. I respect the unbiased take on Cyroclasm. Thank you!😊

The counter to storm's edge is a well-placed glacier grenade. If you block the exact spot that a storm's edge will appear, they will fall out of the sky like a clay pigeon. If you don't, they just smack into it anyways and gives you one less part of their super you have to deal with. I play behemoth titan to mix movement and creative cover options, and when I know supers are gonna be in play I try to keep my grenade up to outright cancel a storm's edge that will inevitably be on the enemy side. Hope this helps! (Also prism titan has a glacier grenade, I know it's a better version of behemoth but I can't let go of cryo slide)

Any tips for prismatic warlock, I feel like I just can’t make it work. Just not sure what combinations of aspects and fragments work for it in pvp

Final warnign mentioned!

Wonder what Prism Warlock would look like if optimized or at it's best shape.

Shadebinder is the epitome of one of those things in a video game when somebody is actively scary and playing to a way you're not expecting/inventive, it can be such a tricky thing to deal with, especially if they got a fireteam member who's doing a completely different scam on Shadebinder. Very obnoxious to play against when there's a 3rd friendly who's on something that chips in more damage like plug and play wombo Spectre stuff

Nerf the dishes. They spawn too fast.

Do dishes to? Damn cammy already knows my daily routine

The tracking on the axes is pretty bonkers, I yeeted an axe from B to tree stump on Bannerfall and it bent around the middle thing to kill someone

Seeing Arc Warlock finally fall below Stasis Titan feels like a tragedy I had to watch in slow motion, it's so incredibly bad in both PvE and PvP that it's mind-boggling. Prismatic Warlock just made me realize just how much better Arc Warlock could be if they just spent some time buffing it.

Idk if I missed the video. But I started watching you back with your blade dancer breakdown years ago in D1. I would love a similar video for ascension and its applications. Keep up the good work. Always enjoy the content.

Given time I think stasis hunter has the potential to be at least on A tier with the new frost armor buff paired with duskfield spam/cd cycle while using renewal grasp. The radius of the grenade can be used defensively and aggressively (+block res/heavy for a very long time). On top of that it creates a crystal that you can use to proc whisper of shards or use to take off angles. Sounds good on paper atm but considering how prism hunter can accomplish pretty much the same thing with just a little more cd I don't see enough ppl using it to see it's fullest potential.

4:04 we got a flashbang buff? Does anyone know what changed or when this happened? Was it a tfs change?

I still really like Behemoth. I just dislike how much agency Bungie tore from the class with some of the nerfs.

Love this video, i was waiting for this ❤

“This is a good video to do the dishes to” I feel exposed.

“Dis is a PVP list, dont care about the pve side” knew i fuxked wit Cammy🗣️, lit vid btw bro🌋

stasis titan makes me sad

Yeah if they stand in the smoke, it’s pretty good. Who would’ve ever thought?

Funny AF since I just opened my tap to do my dishes whilst this is on play 😅. Just had to comment.

Idk if this is dumb to ask, but is there any merch that you have cammy? Twas wondering if you had any?

if we consider the class items for prism , warlocks cant hold up with the other classes

Wait wait hold the phone 📞 whats this interation with ursa furiosa and unbreakable? I LOVE that new aspect 😂

Ive got spirit of Abeyant/armamentarium, which is really fun with jolting pulse nades, but i really want abeyant with contact. Shatter strike a group of suspended enemies, jolt them all, profit

Void Titan still S tier now that it got the new super.

The only thing stormcaller has going for it is chaos reach, which has the same cooldown as bubble and well

Oem true void titan scatter nade + throw with a riposte w desperate measures and to the pain = nuke titan in 6s with a .58ttk void weapon

Was doing dishes when i clicked on this vid. Haha

I come bearing gifts for those with a Thunderclap addiction. Prism Titan Drengers Lash That is all.

Do you happen to have a build with the Titan class item you mentionef? 'Cuz i got it to drop the other day and would love to see a video on it. I might be trash at pvp but i might as well have fun while being trash

They should give arc warlock a celestial nighthawk exotic to give it a boss damage role. Let me charge up chaos reach and fire out the 999,999 damage beam from excision for 1 tick.

Just got off work, perfect wind down video.

realistically bubble and well are like A tier now only thing holding them up is how fast you get them.

can anything stop top tree dawns winning streak

Yes my time has come for divine deliverance, feel my well of radiance and bath in my benevolence, heed my blessings and be restored with divine faith

Digging a hole while listening

Bubble as a super is literally the worst super in the game now, it's actually hilariously bad. Titans get nerfed the hardest but well is essentially the same

Actually doing dishes at my job 😅

golden gun a tier at least can knock down 3 supers or a full squad in competitive

Can you explain the flash bang buff? I didn’t see anything about that

I am concerned about not a single word about 25% damage resistance bug. Just dodge against anyone and you will be a raid boss for several seconds (pretty sure timer it is also bugged). You can survive heavy GL, Dawnblade super shots, tank Slug critic, almost everything. Cant count amount of times a Hunter appeared in front of me and he STILL had the bug against me from a gunfight from before

Fixing matchmaking should be a bigger priority. Losing every game without fail as a Gold Tier 3 is just maddening.

Needlestorm is the worst super in the game in my opinion. Been using it a lot recently and there are many times where it literally just doesn't track to an enemy or doesn't one shot them. They should seriously look into that

dont all supers have same cooldown in PvP now?

Strong disagree with well I've been team shooting wellocks and they tip like a cow. Idk what lobbies Cammy is un but I doubt strongly he's gone up against a well post nerf.

How do you know I listen to your stuff sometimes doing the dishes bro?... weird .. lol

Thx :3

Kind of upset for the reason they buffed stasis. Just to have them mesh with prismatic i think. Almost thought they remembered my favorite class for a second. Still using stasis titan where it shouldnt be used though

Ironically Me do often be washing duh dishes while watching you... Or is that unironically?

1 second short of being leet

Well is B tier now, its nowhere near so it drops solar warlock to S tier

You weren't here first

I’m amazed strand Hunter wasn’t just behind prism Hunter and that they weren’t both above solar warlock

but here comes, the nerfs to Hunter. So It might be bumped down a tier or two depending on how heavy the nerf will be

I'd like a more in depth explanation of why you rate Sentinel so highly. Like, you say you couldn't 1v1 the Bubble before but you've posted many clips of you doing just that. No super, no Conditional needed. It seems biased to put it so high. Especially when you turn around and place Tether so low, with their buffed smoke bomb combined with all the other Hunter benefits. On top of the massively nerfed Bubble, it seems like you've got a Hunter's bias

behemoth change sucked and made me stop playing. I discovered what was going on and they clearly didnt want us slide cancelling. if you stop running the cooldown works as normal, but now I have to fight my subclass instead of my enemies. absolutely garbage change that I wish they stopped pretending they care about stasis with these awful changes. its the sort of change that makes you question if they even worry what these changes do to a already low usage class.

Who th is using bubble titan in 2024?

So, how many months until prismatic hunters get touched? When something pops a bit on warlock it's nerfed in like a week. I feel like there's 80% of people running prismatic hunters and all of their OP BS

By the way strand hunter is bugged atm and is removing your second grenade charge on death

Prismatic titan in S+ tier above strand hunter is certainly an opinion

I love how this mf Cammy knows I do my dishes to his videos 💀

pay2win game

4th

I'm just waiting for the day that stasis shurikens aren't worthless in pvp again one day I miss them being useful for something other than using two 1:40 cooldown abilities in tandem with another ability (duskfield or slow dodge) to proc one freeze that warlock does for free with a single melee, or surplus. but no, I got MY favorite fun stasis ability nerfed to the ground almost immediately into the stasis meta, while shatterdive ran rampant until the 30th anniversary, and it still hasn't fully recovered from the far harsher nerfs that it did receive than shatterdive. There's literally zero reason to run them on Prism over literally any other option, especially threaded spike which just serves a very similar purpose so much better.