I really loved this interview. Because our productivity should be serving us to help us serve others well. Your guest demonstrated that today. He has gained wisdom throughout his years. I pray I can put the important things first like he is doing.
It’s great to have apps to see and recognize the areas of life you wanna grow, but… how in the past people was able to do same things and more without technology? Oh! Just be great and conscious of what you do and keep growing as human!