That moment where Logan hits Roman with a backhand and Kendall literally screams at his father as if all of his previous shown fear of him just vanishes, at least for a moment. One of my favourite Kendall moments.
@@patrickripleyiii134 yea he was the most capable but he tried to over the top everything when he got chances becasue i dont think he believed in himself truly
Big note for shivs drinking in the last season: she only does it once in fromt of Tom to taunt him and we dont see her drunk or drinking at any other part, including when she's with Matteson, shes just holding the glass for a bit and letting him just talk
I’m glad Jeremy Strong got the attention he did but I really think Kieran Culkin was this shows secret weapon. His wit and accompanied by the nuanced representation of trauma and how it stunted Roman as a person was a marvel to watch evolve through the series.
Man Jeremy strong was best actor on the show ,his scenes with brian cox were some of the best scenes in whole show ,keiren may be great but Jeremy gave of the greatest television performance of all time
Please allow me to throw Matthew Macfadyen’s hat into the ring. His malleability, how he seems to shape his personality to whomever he’s talking to was a delight.
Brian Cox was absolutely riveting, his voice, his movement, all created such a rich character for us to hate. What a great show, what a great cast - everyone was fantastic.
@@wrestlinginfodude2644 oh Jesus you again eh?🤦♂️so before he gave a “top five performance ever” now you’re saying he gave the “greatest performance ever”wth is going on? Kendall roy?😂😂look Jeremy was a great actor in the show but the character isn’t even a top 100 character I’ve seen. I’m being completely honest he doesn’t have the charisma, presence, depth, or memorable lines or moments to be an all time great tv characters. He just doesn’t have it. Hate to break it to ya
Ohh no damn 🤦 you again let be in peace man why are you following me and I said many times it's my own freaking opinion how hard is to that understand and dude your top freaking top 5 is Joe freakin Goldberg and homelander you are no one to talk about atleast I can make it argument for Jeremy as top 5 Idk about Your choices atleast he is an Emmy winner for that performance and regarded by various major publications as best character of his generation
Saddest ending for me was Logan. The whole scene where he goes back to ATN and he is just in the way. The scene with the pizza lets the audience know whatever he had is gone because he wants to reheat old pizza and expect to get the same results and Greg tells him you lose quality when you do it that way. The point meaning a fresh approach needs to be taken with ATN because his ideas are outdated. He doesn’t get it. It’s nailed home when he gets on the cardboard boxes and tells everyone, “that it isn’t the end.” His voice sounded like he trying to convince himself and they all stare at him blankly. Even if he had lived, he would never again be Logan Roy after he sold the company. I feel that’s why they had him die off screen because you had just witness his real death. It was over for him.
My favorite part of Succession is how meticulous the dialogue is written. It is as of each word is chosen to give the characters a small cut. Making the dialogue like a ego death by a thousand words. The dialogue feels like a John Wick fight scene. A John Wick fight scene feel perfectly executed just like arguments in Succession. Succession’s arguments are exhilarating as a well choreographed fight scene.
A lot of dialogue is improvised or stylized by the actors in the spot They would film scenes by having the actors do a couple lines of improv to get them to the “scene” and if good enough the improved portions would stay in
The best line is Logan’s speech about good guys to Kendall. “Life’s not knights on horseback. It’s numbers on a piece of paper. It’s a fight for a knife in the mud.”
Pause @1:01:53 to see that Mencken is at NaN%. For me, as a programmer, this is such an excellent detail. “NaN” is what you get when you try to do math with things that are not all numbers, like if you try to do “5 plus dog”, the result is “NaN” or “Not a Number” in javascript. I’ve seen “NaN” in the stock price section of the Financial Times. It means somebody has overlooked a programming error and it made its way into publication, which just goes to emphasize that ATN was not prepared for this election
the screen was failing and tom had requested a fix to the graphics in-show IIRC. that sort of stuff did happen on the 2016 election, not the touchscreen failing but countdown websites presenting mistaken data at times getting fixed in real time. i just joined a smallish news companies as a developer and they still have a small note in some confluence agreeement begging devs to stay available off the clock during election season lmao
Right? I think there was only one in season one between Kendall and Rava, and it was quite tame for usual HBO standards. It's almost like the writers knew that good writing and characterisation is enough to get people hooked, who would have thought! ;-)
Same. I find excessive sex or brutal murder scenes as some kind of turn off. Yes it's shocking at first, and probably necessary for several times with context but when it's too much i feel like it's just lazy.
Knowing Kieran Culkin mostly for his role in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World I gotta say I'm surprised by how good of an actor he is in Succession I was hooked up by how nuanced his performance went during the seasons.
@@yggdrasil2 Yeah true I forgot he was in Fargo, honestly I kinda forgot about him since he appeared very briefly in two episodes, even if he was his character that started all the shenenigans of the season ahaha
Apart from having one glass of wine in front of Tom to goad him (and the odd glass during pregnancy is fine), Shiv is clearly not actually drinking in any s4 scenes - and people predicted the plot line because she’s drinking water during the toast at the s3 wedding. So I think her baby is going to be fine in terms of foetal alcohol syndrome - but probably not emotionally in that fucked up family!
My favorite moment of season 4 was Kendall's eulogy for his father Logan. It was so good that it received a standing ovation from the crowd and was brilliantly written
I’ve watched this retrospective maybe 10 times and I just caught that the Greg & Tom “I got you” scene with the sticker was a callback to human furniture!! Holy shit!!! I would’ve never connected the dots (pun not intended) on my own. Amazing commentary as always
@@xavier-michaelmuli165 con arranged the sticker system to distribute the furniture in Logan’s manhattan apartment amongst his inner circle. When Tom puts the sticker on gregory’s forehead when he says he has just enough capital to save Greg, it’s his way of saying Greg is the piece of furniture Tom wanted the most.
With Jesse Armstrong I think it's too often overlooked that he's responsible for the best episode of black mirror, and possibly the best story about social media ever put to screen "The Entire History of You" which has a great deal of Succession's DNA in it.
In regards to Bojack Horseman's "talk about the way you're supposed to feel" this has actually been tackled by the show itself - The writers felt it necessary because there was (and still is) a *very vocal* contingent of the show's fans that relate to and see themselves as Bojack himself which is both a testament to their ability to make a creepy washed up addict relatable... But also they realized that they had to be more blatant in painting Bojack as a flawed and antagonistic force on the story of the show. The characters in Bojack are toxic, broken people, and try to deal with that however they can, which makes them relatable to a wide array of people no matter how bad they are. It's why Season 5 is so impeccable to me - They wrote it as a response to finding out that Harvey Weinstein apparently "saw himself" as Bojack as a good thing. So they wrote the entire season as a way to critique themselves and what they had been doing this entire time. So yeah, just thought I'd put thay out there.
I think that was the problem though: i think the writers became so obsessed with the fans who "didn't get the show" they basically were making extremely didactic complaints to the audience. It would be like if you watched Shakespeare and the play had to stop so we can be told "macbeth is actually a bad person, guys, please don't copy him".
@@cmbeadle2228 Yet at the same time, the show had to tackle it some way because that train was rolling incredibly fast and incredibly hard by the time Season 4 ended. It had tackled problematic characters & celebrity stand-ins before - Issue is that their show had now created a character that literal predators pointed to as a "they're like me" stand-in. I think it's both commendable and impressive that the writers sought to at least touch on this issue, and with it they also managed to smash out a bunch of banger episodes to boot. I can't really name another series that tried to do it, nor do it as successfully.
Yeah, I think that was somewhat necessary, because it was clearly the original intention of the creators to make BoJack's despicable nature oddly relatable. There's even dialogue in the first season about this very thing. The main arc is about him trying to portray himself as a lovable person but ironically everyone reacts positively to the raw depictions in his biography. I must honestly say that I prefer Todd's dressing-down of BoJack in season 3 to the show within a show in season 5. Mainly because the former was still rooted in the characters and their dynamics while we're mostly told about the problematic aspects of Philbert and not shown them.
After discovering about what this show was more and less based about and the real events that happens, who inherits the throne is irrelevant, the only things that matters is that Logan always wins in the end, even after death, and his sons and his daughter only left with the crumbs.
Now that Slip Maker has released a series retrospective for Succession I can finally start watching the show with my opinion already made up. Thank you Mr.Slip
I would love to see a retrospective on The Sopranos and The Wire. I know they have been talked about to death, but i noticed they're arent many full series reviews out there.
Yeah 100% - slip maker has a really distinct entertaining style so would love him to cover them even though I have seen plenty of yt content for both shows already.
I hadn;t passed any remarks on it as I watched the show, but in your video, at 41:14 Shiv framed standing next to the Trojan horse is excellent foreshadowing.
'Gormless' is a word one doesn't often hear, but it's a good descriptor for Cousin Greg ('...an attack child!'. Ha!) His and Tom's relationship is hilarious. The 'real eldest son', Connor, could also be described as such; possibly, even to the point of being delusional. Roman is simply grotesque, while I have a tad more sympathy for Shiv; though she's still awful, she's at a disadvantage to her brothers, simply because of her gender. Your character analyses were well-thought, and your observations on everything from score to visual and dialogue cues were spot-on. Nice review - thank you. :)
one of the best things about succession is that it has zero exposition. they explain nothing and expect their audience to be smart enough to follow along - for ONCE IN ALL MEDIA
U literally come out with these retrospectives right after i being a show. It works out perfectly for me lol. Its like i get over an hours worth of extra content for every show. A lot of great content and its very much appreciated.
The unfairness of mortality is the silent player. But did anyone notice that it’s Shiv who never signs the new trust arrangements for Logan’s faithful wife? Marcia never finds out and starts to express resentment in S2.
One of the best shows in recent years. I don't think any other show has made me so consistently stressed as this one, especially the share holder meeting episode in season 3 and the series finale.
@@wrestlinginfodude2644easily! What’s your top ten? Mine in order is 1. The wire 2. Game of thrones 3. Six feet under 4. Mr robot 5. Dark 6. The boys 7. Breaking bad 8. Succession 9. Yellowstone 10. Stranger things Honorable mentions Sopranos Mad men Bcs Ozark Dexter
@@raymondsims7042 good list ,mine is ,1 soprenos ,2 succession,3mad men,4 six feet under,5 lost,6better call Saul,7 breaking bad,8 the wire,10 twin peaks 👍
@@wrestlinginfodude2644 your list is interesting you obviously think the wire is great because you have it top ten, but lad you’ve got eight shows above the wire?🤔I think it’s a borderline sin to have any show above the wire let alone eight, with one of the shows being lost?💀💀lol I just find it insulting to put shoes above the wire😂nothing has ever resonated with me as much. Other than that good list.
Other than his passion for "girlfriends", I feel for Connor. I am also the forgotten and sidelined oldest child from a failed first marriage. And I also have delusions of grandeur and wish to be a politician so that I can order people around 😂
For me, it clicked and got interesting in the 2nd episode in the hospital when Shiv and Roman protest going along with Kendal. I binged watched the entire thing for the first time after the finale aired and I’m so glad I finally watched it. What a great fucking show
This was great, those who haven’t watched this show please just watch the first 3 episodes. The wordplay, the emotion, and the acting. Every single actor killed it, secondary characters are freaking amazing too. It’s a 10 and next to none. And the theme song
"No offense, Karl." "None taken." "Yeah, well, a bit of offense, Karl - because a smarter CFO might've seen this fuckin' disaster comin'." "Got it. Yup. Offense now taken." It's writing like this that makes the show's writing so masterful. It has some of the most dry humor modern television has to offer, and that humor allows viewers to connect and sympathize with otherwise despicable human beings. Outstanding retrospective, man! I really enjoyed your takes!
Just finished this two days ago and you made this video???? What fucking timing. Only heard the theme song in a IG video and that’s what made me want to check it out. Glad it was all out when I did. Love your videos.
I'm guilty of telling people that Succession hits it's stride in episode 5 in my own retrospective. (before it got nuked by HBO). But I was sold and all in on the show in the second episode. Everyone I've else I've gotten to watch the show hasn't felt that way. When I ask them how they're feeling on it in the first few episodes they're always like "yeah it's alright I guess."
This is the second video I've watched all the way through and I'm supposed to be working right now. Bravo. You got my sub, cause of the "Boo-Hoo" Voice you gave Shiv.
Once I saw the headline "10 insane things method actors have done" or something like that and I just had this gut feeling that Jeremy Strong was on the list. Lo and behold he was, for a movie I didn't even know he was in - he apparently told the director of The Chicago 7 that he WANTED to get pepper sprayed for real on camera, and the director thankfully talked him out of it.
Love this show , it did not start it slowly , it starts right away , in a rewatch you catch so many little things you’ve missed. Oh and you’ll hate Kendall straight away .
I love your retrospectives so fucking much. Gave a third try and actually got to finish the Americans just to watch your thing. Unrelated to Succesion, but just wanted to show some love. Keep it up!
Greg was supposed to represent the viewer and that's why he was tied so closely to Tom. Greg was used as the outlet for the viewer to understand the eventual winners tactics
OMG I love this! But anyways, to completely disregard this video entirely, PLEASE do a video about *Thing that I enjoy here*!! This is totally what the comment section is used for, and not discussing the content in the actual video!!!
The beauty of the show is that all the actors and scenes are done so well that there never needs to be any explanation of what’s going on. We know exactly what they are thinking just from their emotional expressions and acting and that’s fucking amazing.
I began to hate Shiv for siding with Tarzan against the boys because i had bonded with the family but i could understand her need to be taken seriously even at the death when Luka denied her the CEO job her family had lost their chance
Absolute masterpiece of a show. Top 3 of all time for me now. So glad you made a video on it. Another show with a masterpiece of a finale, but The Shield’s is still my favorite. I LOLed at you calling Kendall the saddest man on TV after Phillip Jennings. Also thank you for explaining why safe room is such an amazing episode at 26:40, one of my favs and you didn’t even mention the other portions of the episode like with Connor’s eulogy. I think part of Succession’s brilliance is its exploration of language. Also holy crap I didn’t notice how the Old Guard parallels the kids, great catch. I was into Succession since the pilot and always thought it was great but you’re right In the start you don’t quite get the characters but on rewatch those first few eps are so much better. I’m surprised you found S2 to be weaker than S1 though, I mean S1 is already amazing but I thought S2 was a big step up into masterpiece tier already, almost every episode was firing on all cylinders. But for me every season got better, S4 has got to be one of the best seasons of TV ever, definitely the best season of TV in a LONG time. Fantastic video as always, excited to see your next one and catch up on some of the old ones I missed cause I haven’t watched the shows yet!
WOAH!!!!succession is top ten for sure, but the best show ever title belongs to the wire. As great as succession is it’s not even close to the wire. No show is in the same class as the wire. It’s just so great
@@raymondsims7042sopranos is just as good except it doesn’t shit the bed for the final season and has amazing finish so it edges wire, which is my number 2
