Yes, if I remember correctly, a trenchcoat was just a trenchcoat before Columbine. It was only afterwards that there was this idea (that wasn’t even really a “thing”) called the trenchcoat mafia. Why the hell would any mother be alarmed over their teen buying a trenchcoat?!
I don’t completely blame her or think she’s different from any other parent but like many parents she’s guilty of not noticing the changes in her son and brushing them off this is her mistake and she knows it
Sarah Dixon she saw he was struggling with something, yes she didn’t know what but she chose to ignore it, and just called it a teenage phase. That bad decision had something to do with what happened. Maybe I’m over analyzing but that’s just what it seems to me.
In my opinion Sue is incredibly brave. She could have ignored, denied or placed blame on others for what her son did. Her honesty is appreciated and respected!
Honey D didn’t they also move of Colorado idk about sue but i think she still lives in Colorado but idk about eric parents i think they moved because i heard it somewhere
this! especially because the other family we literally never heard from again. She comes out and does all of these interviews knowing the hate she will get.
@@ss-yn1ky you took the words out of my mouth. People are responsible for their own actions. When it comes to violence, there are victims on both sides. Imagine losing your child and knowing he took other people’s children away. I think what she’s made of the tragedy is commendable. If I could give her a hug, I would.
As a teenager I was bullied and never told my parents about it. I hid all the pain. All those parents blaming the parents should have known are seriously delusional. No one knows what is in other persons mind and how dark other persons thoughts are if they choose not to tell.
Fact's,💯 I was Bullied as a Youngster,(Mother too when she was younger due to having Dyslexia her Teachers Mocked her,(Art Teacher took cup of Water once thinking be funny & threw it at her face as a Joke at My Mother own Self-Respect expense class mockingly laughed at her) & When I was Bullied & Belittled I Chose to keep the Pain Inside/Stayed Silent,(Which should never do it's not good to let it build & Build/Recipe for Disaster), Should stand up for yourself/Have a Voice let it Roar & be Heard !, You can never know what goes on in the gear's of someone mind you can just observe how the Person Conduct's themself's & Be their for them & Help them Best ya Can.
Not true, my brother and sister was never like that when they were im their teens, I was the only one who was very moody and irritable because I was going through a lot of stuff. Generalisation is dangerous
I literally counted on my fingers how many of those traits that Sawyer listed that I personally experienced as a teen - easily embarrased, tearful, hard on myself if I made a mistake, shy into adolescence - and I counted every one of them, and then some. The only thing I definitely didn't check off on, or come anywhere near was school-shooter. Or violent. Creepy as they are, trench coats don't make you murderous, either. Whether these can really be signs, or are just things people need to believe are signs in order to give reason to such evil - at the end of the day, I feel that it's all within that one person's being. Something that's either malfunctioned or hyper-active in their brain, I don't know. Anyone can be any of these things that these kids were, and then none of these things and still do what they did. I feel for Sue Klebold and, no doubt, the constant need of others for her to reiterate and to explain away what they need to believe. (Not that I blame ANYone for that need or reasoning, by ANY means. I obviously feel for everyone involved, tremendously). I just think that nothing is ever, ever so black and white. It's not things, it's a person - and select things may visibly weigh and/or push this kind of person to do what *only they* are capable of... If it was as black and white as we need it to be, these situations would be more fool-proof... ☹
It's really very simple. Parents need to be WAY more involved and hands on. Be a pain in your kid's ass if you have to. Yeah, I was a moody pissy, young teen, too. But my mom knew all of my friends and she was friends with their moms, too. So she would hear the gossip like if any of my friends and I were fighting and just know what was going on whether I liked it or not. Make sure their friends are decent people. My friends' parents were just as involved and would call and tattle on me if they caught me doing something I wasn't supposed to. In fact, I found out yeaars later that her and my dad would do sneak drive-bys when I was in high school and out at a friends house or party just to make sure things were on the up and up. I had no clue at the time! During one of those parties, one of my girlfriends moms' caught wind and basically dragged 5 of them out and home with her- everyone who hadn't told their parents where they were and wasn't supposed to be there. I got to stay, because I had actually told my parents what I was doing and got permission to go. Sure you need to give them space and privacy...to a point. They are still kids without fully developed brains that need guidance -even though they think they know everything. So get involved. Know what they are doing, who they are talking to, what they are talking about, etc. My parents were even checking my web history in the early days of the internet before I even knew web history was a thing, lol! Good parents do these things.
Nope! Then you’d be asleep at the wheel, if you have no idea what your teen is doing! It’s your job to control the environment to not do so is negligent!
Trenchcoats had no stigma at this point it was there action and the medias accidental misrepresentation of the kids who wore trenchcoats thay created the stigma.
There were MAJOR signs this boy was deeply troubled and his artsy fartsy parents were too wrapped up in careers and social life to notice. They are by no means at fault for what Dylan did, but they had some big failings as parents for not recognizing very problematic behavior before it was too late. This kid was playing with guns(video footage from Rampart Range), committing burglaries, in juvenile detention program more than once, acting out violent fantasies and recording them on video tape, showing clear signs of social anxiety, rage, depression, low self esteem, loneliness, despondency and much more. If we can see it clear as day from a handful of video tapes, his diary, court records and other anecdotes, how could his own parents have missed it living day in and day out with him?? There is no denying they failed as parents in some aspects. I think it's inappropriate for her to go on a tour mainly to clear her family of wrong doing and make this tragedy about her sons condition and not the countless people he harmed. All at the expense of more painful publicity to victims families. She can support the causes of stopping self-harm in private. She should close her yap, stay out of the spotlight and handle any apologies to victim families in private. This is not about her or her son anymore. It can't be fixed no matter how wonderful she said his childhood was.
Exactly! As Isaiah Shoel’s father said “if there were bombs being made in this garage, I would’ve known about it” I know that was at Eric Harris house, but Dylan was right there with him. Sue was explicitly warned about Eric’s website and the fact that he had made bombs and threatened to kill people, and sue did absolutely nothing. Choosing denial instead.
@@TheFire1290 My post is literally a summary of hundreds of diagnoses and profiles written on the boy by some of the top medical doctors and FBI profilers in the country over the last 25 yrs, as well as what HE WROTE IN HIS OWN DIARY. It’s factual information that has been published in countless books, medical journals, investigative journalism pieces and even criminology textbooks. I also happen to be a licensed medical professional with 20 yrs experience. But we’re all just making “armchair presumptions” (including Dylan himself) according to you, Sir Internet Nobody😂
I feel so bad for her because she seems like a very loving mom and that’s her baby and he’s gone. Like a part of her has to hate him for what he did but at the same time she wishes he wasn’t gone. This just reminds me to keep being super close with my son so I can prevent him from ever being that depressed and suicidal and angry.
I don't think she hates him for it but I'm sure she hates what he did. I remember being a teenager and I had a rough childhood, abused more than not and I never ever thought about taking anyone else's life, but at 17 I had my own encounter with suicide. For anyone who's hurting, please know it won't last forever but the choice to kill yourself or another, will. God is real, and when you die you'll go to one place or the other (heaven or hell).
She also lost a kid ...like all the other parents. There's no difference. Actually, there is.... she is burdened with losing her child and the guilt of being the mother whose son killed other parents' kids.
And the way she deals with the guilt is doing these interviews defending herself while hurting her son's victims over and over. Let's not mention the money she has made from these. I never blamed her as a parent of a mass murderer, but I do blame her for not victimizing the survivors by doing these. The Harris parents have at least made sure they didn't hurt others by doing public.
@@roxannemoser I think they went as public as they did to try and help other parents who's child may end up being the next shooter, to help them notice the signs to prevent anymore pain
Mackenzie Richards because now after the shooting people associate school shooters with trench coats even tho they where used in ww1 to keep people dry in trenches
She sounded like a overwhelmed mother of two boys, one on drugs and the other who seems to have had problems from his home life and school life which combined with teenaged hormones and angst and bad company pushed him over the edge... Very sad!!! I hope speaking helps her.
As a mother my heart aches for Sue. She is brave and loving. I remember as a teen, I hid so much from my parents. Sue reminds me so much of my mother. Extremely loving and involved but even then, I think we can hide things from even the most involved. The people saying “she should’ve seen the red flags”.. this one one of the first mass school shooting of a lot of our generation. We didn’t have the social media connection that we do now. A lot of things could be hidden. I will always have empathy for this woman. She’s hurt to a point that we couldn’t imagine!
Sue is a wonderful sweet mother that needs her peace its not her fault that Dylan did what he did sometimes parents have no control of what they children do
Tell that to a parent of someone who lost a child that day. The ONLY people on Earth that could have stopped this tragedy did nothing. And now THEY are the victims? Burn in hell.
And you've fallen right for her BS. She's never shown any remorse whatsoever and basically said it could happen to anyone. When she ignored MULTIPLE warnings from friends and family about her son's behaviour. Blood is on her hands
That's not enough. Listen to Jordan Peterson explain why smothering mothers are disastrous. I'm not saying this mom was, but kids need more than smothering mothers.
She was a loving mom.....and there lies the problem. some people need guidance and even punishment in their raising. If you only love your child, that is not enough.
I too had that same revelation about being a good wife and mother after my husband left our marriage of 17 years….it was all in my head. It made me realize how little control we have as individuals over other people’s behavior. This is reality. This is a revelation…still trying to hold onto hope and joy, even though i no longer trust other people like i used to, as a matter of fact, im the only person who has not let me down.
The sad fact is millions upon millions of teenagers become distant, moody, cold etc. It's almost a cliche because it's true for so many. And they don't all go on to do such a thing, and that is why it is so easy for parents to not know or dismiss it. I feel for this woman, she isn't guilty of anything that many parents aren't too. She also has every right to grieve, feel pain, and still love her son. She should not feel the need to constantly defend or justify herself. It just goes to show how much more awareness and understanding we need for mental health, all of us.
I was one of the last people to be with my friend before he took his own life... and we were together pretty much all day. I knew he had depression, but he was in therapy and suicide watch. His parents checked on him throughout the night, and we thought he was doing better. We did everything we could to help him, but he still died. I feel so bad that I was one of the last people he was with and had no idea what he was going to do. If your friend who you know has depression suddenly seems happy and okay, that is the moment they need to be checked up on the most. They may be happy that it is finally all going to end, so seriously, don't make the same mistake I did
I don't understand how anyone can absolve her of any blame. She was warned multiple times about how violent and dangerous he was. She literally even found a BOMB that her son made and did nothing. She even tells a story where Dylan flat out told her that he could not control his anger. She failed as a parent. Dylan wasn't even the only dysfunctional kid she had. Her other son was kicked out at 19 because he got a DUI.
How would she need to be blamed at all? Seems like an average parent to me. Misses some signs, addresses others maybe not as aggressively as she should have, the "bombs" , maybe she simply did not know how to respond or just assumed it was some experiment of his, not out of the ordinary for teenagers into technoloogy and such to construct unorthodox stuff or whatever. I take it you arent a parent, or maybe you are, but overall as far as i can see through the computer screen she doesnt deserve a single bit of blame for the murders, shes just a mother that lossed her child to suicide and probably hurts more than anybody else involved in all of this in the end
@@austingibbs1448 I certainly am a parent. She ignored MANY signs, not just a few little things. She was TOLD what he was capable of and just didn't even try to do anything about it. One of her sons is a hardcore drug addict and she literally kicked him out without helping him at all. You know what happened with her other son. She's literally 0/0 and you fell for her BS.
@@emoarrrow What should she have done? force them into counseling or something? We can point out flaws in any criminals parent's parenting all day but it's not her fault her kid was a drug addict and the other a killer. Some could argue that not kicking her son out for doing drugs would be enabling him, maybe you could take into consideration the weight she had on her shoulders already from that situation, there's alot of angles to parenting and decisions, i just don't understand why people insist so much that she's at fault somehow. Even if she is, i think she's had more than enough karma on her at this point.
@@austingibbs1448 What could she have done?? Literally ANYTHING. She didn't try a single thing. She didn't try to get him any kind of psychological help whatsoever. You must be a troll. There is no way that you honestly believe anything you just said. 😂
@@emoarrrow Maybe she just didn't comprehend how serious it actually was. What would you do if you were her out of curiosity? Force your child to go to a counceler? What if that action was what just made her or him snap and make these terrible decisions? do you think you would deserve to be blamed for it? I don't know why i'm still responding, I'm just curious about your thought process on this but it seems like you just have a need to express your need to point out flaws and then call people "trolls" or whatever for questioning it. But whatever, its the internet and you're entitled to your wrong opinions
I think it's a normal part of growing up and feeling like you're your own person, that your parents are no longer in charge of everything you do because they don't even know everything you do.
You can snoop through all their things, you can sit them down and talk to them for hours on end, you can put them through treatment centers for counseling and anger management courses, you can punish them when they do wrong, praise them when they do right, encourage them when they are confused, be affectionate when needed, and give them their space when they want to be left alone. You can be the best mom in the world and still not know that your child may want not only to commit suicide, but actually is a deranged killer and wants to kill 500 people before committing suicide. These actions by these two boys were not the acts of their parents. Especially in Dylan‘s case. The Harris’s though on the other hand? That is one huge question mark we will NEVER EVER get answered
"Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?" This question is so cruel. The look in Sue's eyes broke my heart. You can clearly tell for a while she blamed herself and then to be essentially asked if she could have prevented the murder of those kids...so tragic how people will always blame her as long as the word 'Columbine" is remembered.
it is what people do when their children have died in the hands of such kids. It is a normal reaction. Eventually, they get to accept the reality as it cannot be changed. They stop blaming parents and adopt a more fatalistic attitude. It is what it and it's done.
Jordan Tanner yeah they forget Dylan and Eric were grown they purchased the guns on their own and everything these were not children they were about graduate it's not like they were 12 She had no responsibility to know this was gonna happen
What the hell does 'bravery' have to do with a serial killing??? In the land of freedom you are used to mass shootings daily. So i will totally listen to what you have to say.
@Sabrina Dugan The way you are speaking say's alot about you. I feel like you are a very judgemental person to conduct yourself this way. We have no way of knowing how she parented her son with her husband. I hope your children always live to the standard's you seem to have. It would destroy your world as you have very lite empathy and patience it seems.
Michael no she is not every mother she is also a victim her life has been ruined by her son and like it or not she lost the son she loved once when he died and again when she know has to mourn the son she thought he was as opposed to the monster who did this horrific act
“He builds his own computer” “He hacks into the school computer system” This was 1999!! Computers were such a new thing. This guy had so much potential. This event is endlessly sad, truly tragic, in so many ways.
Yeah computers started to pop up in the 70s when my dad was in HS. Since it was the new thing he got interested and is now in IT (information technology)
she claims there’s no way to know when someone might do something as terrible as what her son did, and then goes on to explain in her own book exactly what created her son’s issues by explaining her own bad parenting get this woman off any stage anywhere ever.💀
When she says, "He was so sweet," it breaks my heart. I cannot imagine trying to wrap your head around the fact that your child turned into a hateful murderer, especially one who (apparently) had such a loving, gentle temperament as Dylan. I commend her for actually stepping up and saying something.
And I can't wrap my head around the fact, that most people including media are actually defending the bullies and the people that just stood there and cheered and blame the actual victims and thier parents among other things. He had a reason for his hate and unlike most other people who get bullied so badly he snapped and acted on it, that's the danger of throwing people over the edge for your own amusement. The rest of his life was already destroyed by those so called victims. My partner works with people who had to go through this and they will never be able to live a normal life, have friends and family and be happy, many of them commit suicide at the age of 25-40 and there is NOTHING psychological help can do about it. Bullies are the true murderers and those just happened to kill more than just thier victims through their actions. Yet they never get punished, no instead they get confirmation that it's their victims that are wrong.
Thank you!!! Nobody else seems to notice that, the enablers were his peers in school. Not his parents. The system made him into a monster. Sad thing is that today bullies continue causing deaths by enabling suicide.
If bullying means dominating other people and enjoying feeding off their fear and powerlessness with no empathy for others at all, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were the ultimate bullies. There is no indication that they were given a harder time at school than any other kids. They came from nice homes with nice families and had people in their lives that cared about them. They did seem to be entitled and incredibly narcissistic though. Maybe they were spoiled brats more than anything else. Maybe that's what made them into 'monsters' rather than the 'system'.
The interviewer is disgusting. It’s clear by what she asks and the facial expressions she makes that she blames Sue for “not understanding what was going on”, but how could she know something was wrong if everything looked so normal? No one should judge. This woman has been through a lot and it’s sad to see that people still blame her for what happened.
Horrible fucking parent. Does she notice him having an arsenal ? Getting arrested? His dozens of home videos idolizing killing people ? Wearing a trench coat not to just look different but out of hatred ? Writing about taking his own life and committing more than one felony? And yet she hides, not speaking out about her mistakes for years, until writing a book and monetizing it. Constantly trying to justify it and make money from it. Fuck this lady.
This lady creeps me out. A press tour and book, really? She had SO MANY chances to intervene with Dylan and at least keep him the hell away from Eric (whom he he had committed multiple felonies with and gotten caught). What is her message here? Bad taste all around. The more I learn about the actual facts of the Columbine shooting the less I want to hear from this lady making it all about herself.
White American suberban culture at it's finest... or worst. Future generations will study the immense bloodshed that was shed in the name of whute suburban entitlement.
im sorry but did you not watch the video? she did not know anything was going on with dylan. and she clearly was worried about her own son than whoever he was hanging out with. she still gets blamed and hated on til this day. give the poor woman a break.
She's an activist for teens and parents now and is trying to do her bit to help, is it going to erase what her son did? Of course not but what she's doing is better than hiding away
People need to stop judging Sue. It's fucking stupid, imagine if you were in her shoes. I pray for this woman. In my eyes she's a great parent. But kids are good at hiding things. No matter how hard you try to talk to them about things, they keep it to themselves.
ShadyxFiascoX 32 fuckin really? ""He might be a school shooter, but he shoot ((innocent)) jew kids, the race I hate, so he's a hero"" is what you're saying? You're a goddamn disgrace, consider that comment deleted pls.
I think it’s because Erics parents knew about him and there were signs with him, his father even called and said he thinks his son was one of the shooters. I think people have more compassion for Dylan because he seemed like he fell in with the wrong person. I have sympathy for his mother but Dylan choose his side the day he left for school on April 20, 1999
Well said! They were both sadistic murderers who destroyed lives. How interesting that Sue Klebold is now enjoying her 15 minutes of fame via her son's depravity. How does this woman live with herself? Well, I guess she was ok with raising a sociopath, so shame on me for asking the question...
Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart, he just seemed like he had been going through a lot his high school years.. I just wish he didn't decide to take it out on innocent people, he had a bright future ahead of himself, if only someone had noticed his depression and was able to help him.. R.I.P all victims of the Columbine shooting, a truly tragic day in history.
“Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart” You do realize he had pipe bombs in his closet, does that break your heart, or the fact he had his own website with hundreds of threats and a hit list, is your heart still broken. Sue was a terrible mom and raised a monster of a son.
I dont think he is a victim bro, he had opportunities and still chose to kill innocent children, what breaks my heart is the innocent people that were murdered because of this psycho
@@JohnfromWaterFrontVilligeexactly when i read that comment i nearly puked, how can you feel sorry for someone that murdered and slaughtered innocent people, its comments and parents like this that are the reason kids do what they do
If I was visiting the Columbine Memorial and spotted a mysterious gray haired figure; I would assume that it is Sue Klebold and leave her alone because she's suffering enough as it is.
@@WickedlyMe328 Well, Sue Klebold explained that she has spent quite a bit of time at the memorial; but she doesn't go all that often because she feels unwelcome at the memorial. I do feel sorry for her because she was put through the wringer after the tragedy.
I usually like Diane but this interview is one of her worst. She’s judgmental and the questions are just rude af. Like kids are very good at hiding their depression and anxiety that you would never think anything was wrong.
Lost - i used to like her. Until my perception shifted. In addition to this interview....you should watch Diane with Britney Spears from circa 2001-2003. Cant remember exact year. But Diane is brutal there, too - perhaps she’s asking all the “tough” questions that other people are asking or wanting to know. But she goes right for the jugular.
Diane Sawyer also had a look on her face which would suggest that she either has an awful smell under her nose or she drank an entire bottle of lemon juice. Some might say that Diane was disgusted with Sue Klebold writing a book and even doing public speaking engagements. However; some of my friends and co-workers have said that Diane Sawyer has always been a total bitch towards the people she has interviewed. That being said; I feel truly sorry for Sue Klebold and I wish her the best. You just never know what a person is going through until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
I'm autistic and bipolar along with some anxiety disorders including ocd. when i was unmedicated and going through the worst parts of my illness, i understood exactly what it's like to have the mindset of dylan klebold. i understand it perfectly. with therapy and lots of meds i never get those thoughts anymore. haven't for several years. i'm curious if dylan was dealing with being on the spectrum and also being bipolar.
I'm schizoaffective myself and I understand it also. Also on meds now. -_-' Before medications, I was having problems with my relationships because I kept feeling betrayed by the people who I should be able to trust the most, and at times had desires to kill them or urges to hurt them. Those urges were so strong that felt like a tidal wave of anger just waiting to overwhelm my sense of control if I didn't do something different to change everything. Their reactions to me did not help either because they couldn't understand where I was coming from. I went to the mental hospital and asked to be put on meds since I had been off of them for a long time since getting diagnosed. It was hard to get past my feelings, but I can't believe how much better I handled everything after getting on the right meds. It could be literally life and death. I think other people being understanding and compassionate about it is important also, though.
Please do not cry, I'm sure you would have avoided what happened if you could have, but who's to imagine when you knew you raised him with Pride and Values and in Faith. God Bless You.
Maybe not a terrible person, but a terrible parent. If your kid does a mass shooting, you have failed as a parent. You have failed to teach him basic morals and decency. Sure i feel bad for her loss, but she is partly responsible for this. Parents take credit for their children's accomplishments and need to also take responsibility for their children's atrocities.
She was probably one of these soft "do whatever you want everyone gets a trophy" parents. Should have confronted him long ago, then if he wouldn't change, send him to an institution for the criminally insane. Then put him to sleep
The harsh reality is that parents do play a role in these situations. This doesn't mean I don't have compassion for Sue, it doesn't mean I can't understand where she's coming from, and it definitely doesn't mean Dylan is not at fault because he absolutely is. (It's never okay to end another person's life just because you've suffered or are suffering.) However, for people to put all or most of the blame on Dylan, would be detrimental to kids and families everywhere. If parents don't understand their impact and role in their children's mental health, then this will continue to happen. It's more than just mental illness; there are environmental, social, and behavioral factors as well.
Agreed. I find it strange that no one in the comments has picked up on the fact that she admitted to physically assaulting her child in the interview. On Mother's Day, no less. Wonder how many other instances of this "parenting style" were shrugged off as normal. As a child abuse survivor and mother of three teens myself, stuff like that has serious impact on growing adolescents. Especially males who were not given the tools/permission to deal with heavy emotions in a healthy manner.
My heart fucking broke when she said "he was so sweet" ...she didnt even know and that tears me up. It's so easy to hide it.. but one day it becomes too much and you just cant hide it anymore..
I wish her the best God gave her strength and thank you for continuing to speak and help others with mental health. WHAT she said in TED is true love is not enough 😢. Every time is a shooting somewhere I always thinking about the parents .
TBH, I feel a lot more sorry for the parents of the victims. Their innocent kids were raised up well by "responsible" parents were shot to death. I can't imagine how painful it was for them to do nothing wrong to lose their beautiful children with bright future ahead of them.
The poor woman. She lost more than anybody involved, and she’s made to feel like she’s not allowed to be upset because of the role her son had in everything
@@Hi-qe9gt I think it's silly to say her loss is more than the other parents who had to bury their innocent children. I doubt those parents would agree.
I think it’s inappropriate to say someone lost more or less in this massacre. Ofc some people didn’t lost loved ones and ofc these people didn’t lose as much but you can’t say Dylan’s mother lost the most. No hate though. I sympathise with the mother. She seems really loving and nice.
I agree. Seems like Dylan could have potentially been a good person, but Eric was a psychopath from the start. Eric even wrote that he wanted to be a cannibal in his diary and that he hated humanity. He was a very bad influence.
From playing with Transformers toys as a five-year-old (as per the photograph Sue Klebold provided to Oprah Winfrey's O magazine) to the Doom video game and Pulp Fiction as teenagers.....OMG.....JUST PLAIN SCARY 😰
Tanz Thomp yes it is irrelevant. If I asked my mom to buy me one she is not going to ask what it is for she would just think I'm making a fashion statement. Not that I'm going to shoot up a school.
Yes, that was ridiculous. Like Sue Klebold should have slapped herself and exclaimed " A trench coat like some of the kids at school are wearing?" "Do I look crazy, obviously you are going to shoot up the school in 4 months!"
I was so shocked to see Diane Sawyer, who usually is so warm and kind and gentle, ask such insensitive questions. I am so glad to read the responses to this video. They are kind and compassionate toward a woman who, obviously, has suffered and is still suffering. My heart breaks for this Mother.
@@feefee6713 Yeah she comes across so patronising & fake anytime she tries to PRETEND to be empathetic & kind. It's quite nauseating to watch actually.
Vicki Goodman Diane Sawyer worked for the Nixon administration and was one of the few who continued to work with him after he resigned. I don’t have a lot of respect for her and I’m not surprised that she asked pointed unsympathetic questions.
It's not "teen depression" we live in a culture of fatherlessness, isolation, materialistic emptiness, and kids feeling like there is no future for them. Yet these people keep talking about it like medications can solve these real underlying problems that are not ever acknowledged or ever addressed. Fathers are important in the lives of teens, especially teen boys. TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FATHERHOOD. These psychologists are short-sighted fools.
I think they're missing the point, High School can make people cynical. That's the age where you really start to notice how people treat each other and judge one another. Like how he mentions "Jocks" if you're attractive, good at sports people put you on a pedestal and more accepting of you. But if you're different others can make you feel ostracized and unwanted or have little value. Being a teen and not knowing who you are or what your strengths are, can cause deep seeded resentment. Which may manifest through violent fantasy or I'am gonna show them not to fuck with me mentality.
I was a little hooligan growing up. I destroyed mail boxes, stole shit from stores, egged cars, took my dads car out for a joy ride at age 14, and got in fights, but I was still a nice kid overall. lol Humans are by default naive, they don't say to themselves "I might get murdered today" or "is my kid a mass murder'? People just don't function that way it has nothing to do with providing a good life for their kids. You also have to remember that columbine was the first of it's kind people just couldn't imagine something like this happening.
+Ed Aispuro a felony for stealing. What you are going to call everybody who has stolen something a monster? Yes he did horrible things afterwards but this was before. Like she said at the moment she thought it was the worst thing she could go through. She was his mother he could have been sweet to her, unfortunately society made him a monster.
***** You sir need more compassion. No one is denying that he murdered people, but sometimes you have to look at both sides to understand and for the story to not be repeated. She is not denying that her son did any of that, but regardless of what he did he will never stop being her son. She has a right to remember him for what he was to her whether that being a sweet person or a murder. You are the one who has to take your head out of your ass. Take a step back and look at society, school can truly break you I was bullied throughout elementary and middle school, high school finally gave me a break, and while I didn't feel like I wanted to kill anyone everybody copes with things differently. One thing I agree with you is for parent to pay more attention to their kids as some might need professional help, so that unfortunate events like this don't continue to happen.
So many people seem to overlook the pain that both the Klebold and Harris families must have felt after the events of Columbine. They lost their children as well, and on top of that, have to deal with the fact that they committed these horrible murders. Very brave of Sue Klebold to come forward after all this time. Also, I don't think that Dylan was any more awkward looking than 90% of teenage boys look or feel at that age. Shame he took the path he did instead of getting help.
I think Sue is remarkably brave. Even an interview like this. Come on, she was supposed to know something was wrong because her son wanted a black duster coat like some of the kids at school were already wearing? The trench coat mafia was a media exaggeration, it was actually the class before Eric and Dylan that dressed like that and used the name in the yearbook just to be silly.
I agree, tigertbalm. I too did a double take when the reporter asked her if she didn't find it weird that he wanted a trench coat. It's a friggin' piece of clothing. I own a black trench coat. I know lots of people who have one. None of us would even ever *think* of doing something like what they did. When I was 18, I dressed all in black cos my favourite band was the Cure and I wanted to emulate Robert Smith. It's normal teenage behaviour. Insinuating that Sue is to blame for not reading something into her boy's desire for a piece of clothing is pretty damn short-sighted and just plain mean. BTW, I'm currently listening to Sue's audiobook (she narrates it herself) and it's totally heartwrenching. Worth the listen (or the read, whichever) but it's tough at times, and I really feel for her and her family.
His classmates who bullied him were if not more so. Do you know that some people would throw ketchup soaked tampons at him and the other killer? They had to go through the rest of the day covered like that. I was bullied just as badly. But I didn't have friends that were also sick.
Tisha Lee. I feel the same way. Seems as of Dylans parents especially his mom did everything they could to provide a happy home. So very hurtful for all involved.
No real parent would let their kids get to a point of making bombs in their bedroom. She is brave?? She created and enpowered a mass murderer. How on Earth can she claim she is a victim??????????????????????????????
Imagine how she has to live now. Going to the doctor and having the nurse call "sue klebold!" And EVERYONE in the room knows exactly what that name means..
Actually, I never heard of her until I came across this video. Most people in the U.S. are obsessed with stories like this, esp. if they happen to "us". As the saying goes, "If it bleeds; it leads." Sensationalist shootings & bombings get much more media attention that explaining complex situations about environmental threats or economic policy, and we care more about 15 Americans that died than we do about the millions who have died in the DRC (Congo). But I say, "we", b/c I really DON'T pay attention to stories about shootings or serial killers. In fact, I didn't even know the boy's names who did the SHOOTING at Columbine or any details on what happened until just yesterday when I watch a documentary here on YT about it. I actually think it's better to forget their names lest other potentially dangerous people idolize & imitate them.
Ikr, I was 12 when it happened but I remember everything so clearly. The names, the stories, everything, it was so crazy no one had ever heard of a school shooting before.
Yeah, and Klebold is a pretty unusual name too, so that definitely doesn't help. People would pretty much automatically associate that name with the shooting.
The mother is a narcissist. You can tell in her TED talk and in interviews outside of the TED talk. Before you hate to watch a vid on it and you’ll know what I mean. R.I.P. to the Columbine Victims ❤
I've heard a story where a 26-year-old SON OF A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST RAPED A WOMAN... and you blame HER for not noticing anything weird? it's not as easy as it seems. also stop blaming someone for crimes they didn't commit and things they couldn't predict. horrible, accusatory interview.
That is because people are not looking for the monster in their loved ones. It takes people by surprise because they aren't seeking the obvious signs. If you have a dysfunctional kid and you believe he is just being a butthurt teenage when in fact he is suicidal and is plotting to shoot a bunch of people with him. This is the same thing that happens when people fall in love with abusers. They are in denial and are not looking for the darker aspects.
She wasnt a terrible parent....and even if she has beaten him...lots of kids who get beaten and raped by their parents dont become killers the kid was disturbed...probably since birth....there is nothing she could have done
I think middle school is usually what messes kids up. Elementary school, maybe. But middle school is the worst, because that is usually when kids start going through puberty. Also, it's when kids start changing.. you may not have the same friends. You may go from have a big group of friends to a small group, or none.
I was one that didn’t have many friends and didn’t care to go out really. I hated high school. My dad passed away my freshman year and all of my grandparents passed my senior year. The friends I once had betrayed me. However, I never had any desire to hurt myself nor others. I was in 8th grade during the Columbine shooting and I was hurting for the victims. I cared about others. Not every teen that is a loner is a bad person. It helps to recognize what they are going through too.
“Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?” I'm sorry, but that was extremely inappropriate. Notice how specific the question is worded, implying that Sue is the reason this happened. Shame on that "interviewer".
It’s a great learning question for the audience and for parents. It sounds offensive because feelings are used instead of using their heads. It helps Sue to look at signs and actions that were missed that could help parents today to help their children .
@dani cali some people are just evil. if ppl wanna kill, theyre gonna kill. its nothing to do with a person’s family life, its just theyre a sick human being
She might have well asked “Could you have prevented or predicted his mental health illness (issues) or anyone else’s?” How ridiculous! I’m surprised Diane Sawyer didn’t blame her for not realizing her son was cutting himself; many teenagers cut/self-harm in non-conspicuous areas. Parents are the last ones to ever know.
Dear Mrs. Klebold, I am so sorry for your loss and your pain. It must take tremendous courage to tell your story. Thank you for sharing with us, and educating us about brain health and what it's like to be a survivor of such tragedy. May God bless and strengthen you as you continue on your journey.
@Gunos Bruh CHILL!! I mean, no one had expected that Dylan would have been part of this. Eric looked like a frickin' psychopath while Dylan actually looked innocent and was actually nice to people most of the times before the shooting. Ex. He helped Rachel with her play. When the music tape jammed, he quickly rushed and fixed it. At that point, anyone could've looked at Dylan as a friend.
I honestly don't think that mom could've ever imagined her son becoming a school shooter, even the warning signs he exhibited are worrisome but more for depression and a troubled young person, I really don't think there's much she could've done. I feel bad for her, don't feel bad for him, but do feel bad for his mom.
Sue Klebold comes across as a loving, compassionate mother. Any parent without a psychology background would have missed the signs. I pray she finds peace because it was not her fault.
@@DonOneDetroit the stuff he made. It was in the garage. How many of us go search our garage? The houses they lived in were near the school. I’ll bet they hid their stuff in the attack door area in the garage. She couldn’t have stopped it. Hardly any mom thinks her kid would shoot the kids at school. She didn’t know he access to guns that would do it. One if the kids parent worked in the same building as someone I knew. I don’t know which one. She told me they found out because they got the lady out of work and you couldn’t hear her scream NO NO NO, snd cry. She practically collapsed. Some one took her home. The police were at her house. She left the job. They never knew whst happened after that. Both kids had a mom snd dads in the house. It wasn’t horrible kids on the outside. But what on earth goes on the inside of the kids that do this? It’s so frightening and scary. You can’t let your mind go there.
Yes, Dylan possibly could have been helped. Eric again, sorry to say but there are some people who just can't be helped & unfortunately, Eric Harris was one of them. It's hard to say because he was someone's child but there it is.
A lot of kids who shoot up schools could have been helped. I think 99% of them would never have done what they did if someone actually took the time to help. Many of them were depressed, bullied, and dealing with things that they couldn't understand or didn't know how others would react to their feelings. I remember watching a video on RU-vid from Ted Talk about a guy who was in a very similar situation that those shooters were in. He never did kill anyone, but he talked about how he was planning on doing it but because someone actually cared about him, it changed his life.
It’s heartbreaking that people blame her. She seems very sweet and if she knew anything like this would happen she would have gotten her son help. She suffers as well she not only lost her child but her child is a murderer! Whoever threatens her should be totally ashamed of themselves. Poor thing
Dunno, many parents manage to not have their kids grow into hateful, people-slaughtering monsters. Ofc she will depict everything she was complicit in within the best possible light for herself, easy to say "oh yeah I was totally loving and cared about my son and was the best mum eva" after your kid shoots up a school.
I feel like Eric was a sociopath but I think Dylan was depressed and got consumed by it. Somehow it makes me sad. I genuinely think he would've had a normal life if he just got through highschool and moved onto better things.
there is actually an article on this from around 2004 that explores both eric and dylan and they did say eric was a full blown psychopath while dylan was depressive and suicidal. one quote was "dylan was hurting inside while eric wanted to hurt other people." and its based off of the fbi and various psychologists and psychiatrists analyzing the two of them and the event as a whole, so it isnt BS. they even said dylan would have never carried out the massacre without eric, whereas eric would have done something heinous regardless if dylan was there or not. so it basically comes down to if dylan had never met eric, he would have lived a fairly normal life and would prob still be alive. all the analysts say eric no matter what was going to do something like this, that no amount of help would have deterred him. they said if anything, eric dying that day saved the world from him doing much worse damage because he had originally wanted to go as big as the Oklahoma bombings. he wanted people to die by the hundreds.
Lisa Perkett yeah that’s true. But depression isn’t just sad feelings. It’s also hating yourself and others and tendencies to lash out against those around you.
You cannot blame parents for every action of their children. Their children are individuals. This poor mother probably beats herself up everyday over what her son did. This whole case is sad all around. I hate even being reminded about it
@@nonashay He didn't blame her but wanted to completely shut off from the world since everyone hated them. But she couldn't cope like that and wanted to face everything head on. They just couldn't cope the same way and ended up divorcing
It is so heartbreaking to listen to her because you know that you could be in her shoes because no matter how good you think you are as a parent you can't predict how it's going to turn out.
they don't actually want to die, they're just over exaggerating poor mental health and making jokes about it. this is why nobody today pays attention to people who are legitimately struggling, because every adolescent and teen claims they're "depressed" and "anxious" and tells everyone "I want death" constantly. I have a sister who's 16 and she has serious anxiety and depression and has never once said any of that. kids today need to remember that not everything is as bad as they think it is.
Aislinn G I somewhat agree. Im very depressed but I never talk about it or mention how badly I want to die. I hate getting attention. But also just because people say they want to die doesn't mean they're always bullshitting. That's just some people's way of asking for help. There has been so many cases where a person has committed suicide and has told numerous of people of how badly they wanted to die or made dark jokes about dying. Everyone handles depression differently.
Hate that the woman interviewing Sue has a sort of constant constipated look to her face. I think it's taken more strength than the interviewer could ever imagine to do what Sue Klebold has done. To write a book, to confront every issue on every angle. I take my hat off to her for all that she's been thru and how hard it must have been to revisit all those emotions and memories time and time again. I'm sure her book, her experiences and her charities are helping thousands.
InterCity82 Yes mrs k. is very courageous to look HONESTLY at what has been instead of the perception of life that we all carry in our own life experince. My son, lil' Johnny, died may 19, 2017 at the age of 22. So ive been learning a lot lately of seeing life through another's perceptions . And for a parent seeking the full understanding of whats happened; it demands courage and honesty. And it requires one to come to the place where we can understand that what has happened, has happened. However many different ways that one sees it still doesnt change what has happened. And healing will be in how one looks at things now. With forgiveness. Wherever that lies, there must be forgiveness. For ourselves and others.
LOL all that she's been through. She was so disconnected from her son that she didn't know he was building bombs and stockpiling ammunition in her garage. That's called guilt.
I have an AMAZING MOTHER. However when I became suicidal she didn't really know until it got bad. I learned how to hide it all. Trust me, when you are mentally unstable, you could find a way around your parents. She mostly just chalked it up as teenage mood swings rather than mental illness. Eventually, she saw through it, but it took her a while.
She had no clue on parenting. If your kid is getting arrested, hacking into the school computer system and hanging out with the wrong crowd, you do so much more including getting the kid in therapy.
When Sue broke down and said "he was so sweet" I couldn't help but cry with her. Dylan really did seem like such a sweet guy who ended up handling his problems in the worst way.
★ Froggie Animation ★ I’m sorry did we read different comments? Where did she say that she loved him? She wasn’t defending him, she was being compassionate towards his mother I think
It’s so crazy that the interview can point fingers. You learn so much from this case. They were parents who did what they can, but socialization does occur. Parents aren’t the only influence in one’s life. You got friends, teachers etc. It’s unfortunate the friendship turned to be volatile.
Yet it is exactly the kind of harmful manipulation some children have to endure. Its mothers day, you forgot about it, its your fault, I'm the victim and you're a bad kid.
freakyfornash she said he WAS so sweet. Obviously she’s heartbroken by what her son did and is probably devastated her child killed other people including himself
@@emilytsuge447 And she had it far more tough than the parents of the other kids did who died. It's not like she didn't lose a child either, and was all the more worse when her own son was one of the violent murders for that matter too.
"80 to 90% of depression can be treated." That is exactly the problem. This number should be at 100% indefinitely. I truly believe that events like this occur because of the rejection and loneliness that young kids go through alone. Every person needs to realize that their words are capable of leaving major imprints in someones mind. You would never know if the words you chose to speak to someone else would be the initiating starting point to the reason that somebody wanted to die. Trauma and Rejection is capable of taking over your life in the most subtle ways. What they need is hope, they need to be accepted and they need to feel like they're loved at all times, in fact we all do, we want to feel like we have a place in the world. The school system is broken and it needs to be fixed. They need to break the divisions amongst all groups and by divisions I mean the fact that certain kids hangout with certain kids... ( jocks with jocks, stoners and smoke pit kids, band kids, the preps... you name it. The only way things will change is if all kids are able to feel accepted by one another. I think its a great idea for kids to get to know one another and for there to be field trips and certain activities that create bonds within the schools so that it wouldn't be a dragging sigh to get to school in the morning... people would be more excited, they need their passions exploited and they need to find out that the negative thoughts they have are not them, but if left untreated it becomes the driving force to do terrible things like this.
